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Germany: Builds 1 unit
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Removes 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Russia to Austria
Ralassa,
>And thereafter? Would the Polish people prefer Russian rule to Austrian?
Well, Warsaw is a Russian Home Centre, but it
would be foolish of me to cripple you when you are
holding the line against the Hun. Hopefully, we
can arrange for you to take Ber or Mun, which would
compensate you for the eventual loss of Warsaw.
>Could I suggest the bold Mos-Stp-Nwy for 1903
That is a possibility under consideration.
>Austria is already stretched thin, with an ally who will soon stab from the
>west.
If you don't trust Italy, then FAIR is hardly
practical, don't you think?
>A retreat to Silesia, a Russian debuild of the Galicia
>army, and War-Pru and Mos-StP in the spring would
>change the strategic situation considerably
Disbanding RA Gal would be a mistake. It would
invite Boh-Gal, and A Gal is needed to support your
Army in Sil as you move War-Pru, in any event.
>Does this course hold any attraction for the Czar?
It matches up with my thoughts in most respects,
but I see that the Judge outage has rendered this
letter moot.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Germany to Austria
has somebody ran off with all the 'g' s on your keyboard? It's ok. You
can press to g.
I'm amazed that I have an army sitting on your border and you still
haven't written to me. Your last message is dated the 14th. Two weeks
ago.
Hello
Hello
Anyone there?
Fredd
Message from Austria to Germany
> I'm amazed that I have an army sitting on your border and you still
> haven't written to me. Your last message is dated the 14th. Two weeks
> ago.
> Hello
> Hello
> Anyone there?
You really didn't need to send an army to pick up messages. And your
last message before this one was also two weeks ago.
Nevertheless, your point is well-taken. Until your army came to
visit, the Archduke seems to have taken you for granted. Both in
bouncing Sweden, and then in taking it, you have acted as he expected
and as he hoped you would.
Your recent move had his ambassadors to Russia, England, and Italy working
overtime. France, of course, was urging that the army dislodged from
Galicia retreat to Silesia. In hopes that your intentions were less hostile
to Austria-Hungary than they appeared, and with communications disabled, the
army instead retreated to Vienna.
So, what are your intentions? What actions do you propose the Archduke
take, and how will they benefit Austria-Hungary?
Grace, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Master to all
usin@thekleimans.com said:
>This is supposed to be a press game; is it unreasonable to wait until
>the judge delivers the mail before sending the order?
Not at all -- the Judge outage occurred a bit after I sent the
reminder. Retreat moves don't usually take much negotiation and
(looking forward in my Inbox) I see that the retreat is already
in. Didn't mean to sound snippy! :-)
Thanks,
Doug
Message from England to Austria
My dear Edna,
I don't know how Turkey managed to do that, but he is clearly overextended.
You and Italy should be able to cut him back this year.
Personally, I won't complain about last fall's moves. I don't want to see
anyone run away with this while I am slugging it out with France very
slowly. It will impossible for me to grow in 1903, and it is not at all
obvious that anything will be certain in 1904 either. I just hope that
others will not have grown too big by then. That includes my German
friend! 8-)
Answer: I don't know.
Question: why did Germany move to Bohemia?
Answer: I don't know.
Question: what is he going to do with Bohemia?
I have asked him, but I don't think at this stage that he knows either. As
you can imagine, communications between Germany and me last turn were
almost non-existent. In addition to the problems obvious to everyone, my
own modem doesn't seem to work at all in the evenings. Furthermore my
internet provider was down for almost a day.
My first guess, only a guess, is that Bohemia will simply hold. The entire
Bohemia business may have been in response to the Italian army sitting
ominously in Tyrolia.
Cordially,
Ivy Wingo
Message [from Russia] to all
>Broadcast message from masseyd@btv.ibm.com as Master:
>
>Retreat moves don't usually take much negotiation
*Engage RANT Mode*
One of my pet peeves with Joel Furr is his use
of StrictWait. Negotiating with Powers to influence
where they retreat to, or convincing them to disband
and rebuild rather than retreat is, in my opinion, an
under-used, but very effective tactic. (I interpret
the rulebook's restriction on negotiation during
Retreats/Adjustments as being an artifical limit
imposed to keep a F2F game from lasting three days,
rather than game "feature", so I see no reason to
impose it in a PBeM game.)
*EndRANT*
As an example for the Observers who are hoping
to learn something from 'titleist', consider Austria's
Retreat of Army Galicia this phase.
>The Austrian Army in Galicia can retreat to Ukraine
>or Vienna or Silesia.
France might lobby in favor of Silesia to distract
Germany. Italy, as part of AI vs. RT, might suggest
that Austria retreat to Ukraine to maintain pressure
on RT. Russia, of course, would suggest Vienna, to
improve his chances of retaking Warsaw. Strategy
articles routinely reccomend writing to everyone
every turn, and, in my opinion, influencing a retreat,
build, or disband is every bit as important as
influencing the Movement phase.
Message from Germany to Austria
Duke:
> You really didn't need to send an army to pick up messages. And your
> last message before this one was also two weeks ago.
I've got a message in my archives that I sent out dated one week ago.
As if that matters.
I'm not sure what to do with the army in BOH. It seems that all of my
neighbors, etc. are so busy talking amongst themselves about it that
they're forgotten to make any suggestions to me about it.
I will tell you how it got there. It was supposed to bounce with the
Italian army. A bit of skillful maneuvering on Turkey's part. I now
believe. Ali dropped a hint that he had heard through the grapevine
that Italy was planning TYR-BOH. This was totally believable as Roberto
has stated in the past that he intends to use that army against Russia.
Now if I were totally tied up in the west this wouldn't be a problem,
but you're probably noticed that I have designs of my own on Russian
soil. I didn't want an Italian army up in the Northeast to 'get in the
way'. The bottom line is that I didn't want to have to fight him for
Russian centers while cooperating somewhere else.
The rest of my moves followed MUN-BOH. I had to protect Munich in case
TYR-MUN, so KIE - MUN.
Now that I'm there what should I do? There are a lot of options. One
of them obviously is to cooperate with Russia or Italy and attack you in
VIE. That's not really all that high on my list. Another would be to
cooperate with you to attack Italy. Not that high either. And I doubt if
you have any intentions along those lines. I could just sit there. Italy
seems to think that having his army sitting on my border is totally
nonthreatening. I guess that I could make the same point to you. IE
that I'm protecting the back door to my homeland. But I wouldn't insult
you with such a transparent argument. Having an Italian army in TYR
creates opportunities like MUN-BOH. Having an army in BOH will cause you
to make the same kind of moves. In other words I realize that all your
orders now have to compensate for my army. It'll be a major pain in the
ass, even if I don't ever attack. Perhaps you could pass along these
feelings to your partner? He seems blind to the problems his army in TYR
causes me.
Perhaps we should stay in contact more often. The builds should be in
soon.
Fredd
Message from Master to Austria
usin@thekleimans.com said:
>usin@thekleimans.com said:
>>This is supposed to be a press game; is it unreasonable to wait until
>>the judge delivers the mail before sending the order?
>Not at all -- the Judge outage occurred a bit after I sent the
>reminder. Retreat moves don't usually take much negotiation and
>(looking forward in my Inbox) I see that the retreat is already in.
>Didn't mean to sound snippy! :-)
Jeez, I didn't mean to *broadcast* that. Hopefully, it's not a big
deal to you.
Thank god I didn't address you by name.
(I hate gunboat games more and more every day. :-))
Doug
Message from Italy to Austria
I'm taking advice on what to build. Any input?
Roberto
Message from Austria to Italy
> I'm taking advice on what to build. Any input?
A fleet in Naples.
I don't think anything else is even close. If England goes for MAO
this year, you'll need another fleet for defense. Turkey is looking
tough, and fleets are much more effective against him than armies.
In other developments, Germany is claiming his move to Bohemia was
meant to bounce Tyr-Boh. I think he's lying, but you should know what
he's telling me anyway. He says your army in Tyr was so threatening,
he felt forced to counter it, and asked me to urge you to relocate it.
I disagree, of course; we'll discuss moves after the builds process.
Idalia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Austria to England
> I don't know how Turkey managed to do that, but he is clearly overextended.
> You and Italy should be able to cut him back this year.
He outguessed me, partly because I wanted to leave him room to cannibalize
Russia if he chose to. He didn't so choose :-(.
> Personally, I won't complain about last fall's moves. I don't want to see
> anyone run away with this while I am slugging it out with France very
> slowly. It will impossible for me to grow in 1903, and it is not at all
> obvious that anything will be certain in 1904 either.
England will be in MAO by fall of 03, and will have a choice between
guessing for French centers and bypassing them to get into the Mediterranean
early.
> I just hope that others will not have grown too big by then. That
> includes my German friend! 8-)
ET is a natural alliance. Russia has tied his hopes on Turkey, and you have
cooperated by leaving StP alone. And you need Germany to leave you alone
long enough to turn your positional advantage over France into actual
centers.
But Germany, without blatantly stabbing you, seems willing to let you slog
your way through France while picking up the easy centers in Russia (and
possibly Austria). He already has two fleets. After he uses them to pick
up StP, where will he go next? He's in excellent shape, both tactically and
strategically.
You probably won't discuss it with me, but if you were to shift alliances to
join with France against Germany, you would have great potential for gains.
Nobody is in position to come to Germany's aid, and his aggression has left
him with few countries who would choose to help him anyway. Success against
Germany would leave you with unchallenged hegemony in northern seas, a solid
position from which to build your championship.
Edna, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Austria to Germany
> I will tell you how it got there. It was supposed to bounce with the
> Italian army. A bit of skillful maneuvering on Turkey's part. I now
> believe. Ali dropped a hint that he had heard through the grapevine that
> Italy was planning TYR-BOH. This was totally believable as Roberto has
> stated in the past that he intends to use that army against Russia. Now if
> I were totally tied up in the west this wouldn't be a problem, but you're
> probably noticed that I have designs of my own on Russian soil. I didn't
> want an Italian army up in the Northeast to 'get in the way'. The bottom
> line is that I didn't want to have to fight him for Russian centers while
> cooperating somewhere else.
I would expect the army would be no more threatening to you in Bohemia
than in Tyrolia. And bouncing him from Bohemia doesn't seem
well-calculated to earn the cooperation you seek, by the army which would
then necessarily remain in Tyrolia. On the other hand, if you felt Italy
was too closely allied with France for cooperation with him to be
rewarded, perhaps Mun-Tyr, either with or without warning, would have been
your strongest move against Tyr-Boh.
As to eastern goals, Silesia seems a better location if your target is to
be Russia, while Bohemia certainly gives the appearance of hostility to
Austria-Hungary.
> In other words I realize that all your orders now have to compensate for
> my army. It'll be a major pain in the ass, even if I don't ever attack.
> Perhaps you could pass along these feelings to your partner? He seems
> blind to the problems his army in TYR causes me.
Austria-Hungary has its own discomfort with the Italian army in Tyrolia,
but with your army in Bohemia, the Italian army becomes more useful than
not.
Russia will presumably remove his northern fleet this winter. That allows
you to take StP by force: Bal-Lvn, Swe-Bot in the spring. If you also
move Ber-Pru, Boh-Sil, you will surely reap the northern Russian centers,
including Warsaw which is currently enjoying its recent liberation by
Austro-Hungarian troops. Can you discuss whether these moves are in your
plans?
Grace, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Austria to Russia
> Disbanding RA Gal would be a mistake. It would
> invite Boh-Gal, and A Gal is needed to support your
> Army in Sil as you move War-Pru, in any event.
I fear disbanding the northern fleet would only postone the
problem, as it would encourage Bal-Lvn, Swe-Bot, taking StP.
Since disbanding Mos before you're comfortable working with
the Archduke seems out of the question, that leaves the
southern fleet.
As part of a cooperative effort, Warsaw can suppport
Gal-Sil, and/or Vienna can support Gal-Boh. In fact, with
both Tyr and Vie supporting Gal-Boh, and War attempting Sil,
we would almost certainly destroy the Boh army in the
spring. I'm not sure how beneficial Russia would consider
that course, however.
Ralassa, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from England to Austria
Edna,
>England will be in MAO by fall of 03, and will have a choice between
>guessing for French centers and bypassing them to get into the Mediterranean
>early.
Oh, I will go for the French centers. Lots of reasons. I need the
strength in case Germany gets funny ideas. Also, I see no need to alienate
Italy. Finally, the French centers will be long, hard work, so why
postpone the start?
>You probably won't discuss it with me, but if you were to shift alliances to
>join with France against Germany, you would have great potential for gains.
Sure I will discuss it. If I did that I would be between a 5-center France
and a 6-center Germany, both of whom would hate me. As long as Germany is
not too greedy, and as long as I make progress against France, it is best
to stay the course.
After a few countries are eliminated, then that might be the time to
shuffle the alliances. Rignt now, I think E,G,I,and A are in the best
shape to survive well into the game.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Italy to Austria
> A fleet in Naples.
That's what I had ordered. Just wanted to make sure.
> In other developments, Germany is claiming his move to Bohemia was
> meant to bounce Tyr-Boh. I think he's lying, but you should know what
> he's telling me anyway. He says your army in Tyr was so threatening,
> he felt forced to counter it, and asked me to urge you to relocate it.
> I disagree, of course; we'll discuss moves after the builds process.
He is lying because I recall telling him my army in Tyrolia would be holding
since I wanted the option of moving to Piedmont at the appropriate time to
help dismantle France.
Yes, he has asked me to relocate it as well but I told him I would if and
only if he relocated Bohemia first preferably back to Munich where it
belongs.
More after the builds come in tonight.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Austria and Italy
Ralassa, and Roberto,
> As part of a cooperative effort, Warsaw can suppport
> Gal-Sil, and/or Vienna can support Gal-Boh. In fact, with
> both Tyr and Vie supporting Gal-Boh, and War attempting Sil,
> we would almost certainly destroy the Boh army in the spring.
I would favor Gal S War-Sil, Tyl S Vie-Boh. If you want to
work with me you really need to move out of my Home Centre,
and toward our common enemy.
Czar Nicholas II.
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Russia: REMOVE Fleet Sevastopol
Turkey: BUILD Army Constantinople
Centers
Austria: 5
England: 5
France: 5
Germany: 6
Italy: 5
Russia: 3
Turkey: 5
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