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Message from Turkey to Austria and Italy
let's get our orders in now, if possible, so nothing gets screwed up.
I think the wait is 1week? that is way beyond my attention span.
does anyone have a list of our actual orders? did you guys decide on
the Pie question?
Message from Austria to Italy and Turkey
>
> let's get our orders in now, if possible, so nothing gets screwed up.
> I think the wait is 1week? that is way beyond my attention span.
That sounds more than reasonable.
>
> does anyone have a list of our actual orders? did you guys decide on
> the Pie question?
I didnt actually respond yesterday because I was buried at work and the
played hockey last night.
But the primary reason that I cant move TYR - PIE is that if I am not
at least tapping Berlin, I need both TYR and BOH to support Munich.
Silesia is taking Warsaw with Galacia's support.
And would be no trouble at all for Germany to either tap Silesia or
support the French to Munich.
Andy
Message from Austria to Italy and Turkey
>
> Does anyone know how to get the French to shut up? and/or stopping
> sending you press? He is really annoying. I have attacked people
> before _just_ because they were talking too much..unfortunately that
> is rather difficult in my position here.
>
Im sorry....I dont have an answer to that question.
Message from Italy to Austria and Turkey
Andy - I understand why you can't move to PIedmont. I'd still like to
take Venice, seeing as how you will be picking up both Mun and War. We'll
just have to hope that F Lyo doesn't retreat to Pie. I think it is more
likely that he'll retreat it to Spain any ways (unless Mao-Spa). And if
he moves to Pie then we'll just kill him next spring.
I agree with Turkey that we see our 3 country's units as one, but it's
also important that we make sure that everyone still has a stake in the
continuing of our alliance. Also, we don't want to get our units TOO
mixed up (though a little mixing is okay). This way it minimizes the
worries that one of us will break up and leave the alliance.
I'm putting in orders
Message from Turkey to Austria and Italy
>I agree with Turkey that we see our 3 country's units as one, but it's
>also important that we make sure that everyone still has a stake in the
>continuing of our alliance. Also, we don't want to get our units TOO
>mixed up (though a little mixing is okay). This way it minimizes the
>worries that one of us will break up and leave the alliance.
>
>I'm putting in orders
OK, someone please tell me what I am ordering, exactly.....
Italy, what did you finally want for my southern units?
Austria? for my northern units?
turkey
Message from Italy to Austria and Turkey
Apu S Pie-Ven (or hold, or whatever)
Tys-Lyo
Ion-Tys
Gre-Ion
Aeg S Gre-Ion (or hold, or whatever)
Message from Turkey to Austria and Italy
ok,then.
here is what I am ordering unless I hear otherwise:
apu s pie-ven
tys-lyo
ion-tys
gre-ion
aeg s gre-ion
rum h
sev-mos
ukr s sev-mos
Message from Italy to Austria and Turkey
I'd order Sev S Ukr-Mos (since SEv's support can't be cut) and Rum-Ukr.
But it's probably half a dozen of one, 6 of the other.
Message from Austria to Italy and Turkey
> take Venice, seeing as how you will be picking up both Mun and War. We'll
> just have to hope that F Lyo doesn't retreat to Pie. I think it is more
> likely that he'll retreat it to Spain any ways (unless Mao-Spa). And if
> he moves to Pie then we'll just kill him next spring.
I agree.
I wasnt trying to say that you shouldnt take it, I was just pointing out
an issue involved
Message from Austria to Italy and Turkey
>
> ok,then.
>
> here is what I am ordering unless I hear otherwise:
>
> apu s pie-ven
> tys-lyo
> ion-tys
> gre-ion
> aeg s gre-ion
> rum h
> sev-mos
> ukr s sev-mos
You might want to reverse the sev and mos orders and move Rum up, but that
is your call.
Andy
Message from Turkey to Austria and Italy
> > apu s pie-ven
>> tys-lyo
>> ion-tys
>> gre-ion
>> aeg s gre-ion
>> rum h
>> sev-mos
>> ukr s sev-mos
>
>You might want to reverse the sev and mos orders and move Rum up, but that
>is your call.
that's a good idea that both of you pointed out.
I'll order sev s ukr-mos
ukr-mos
rum-ukr
And that should about do it...so no need to talk until after the
moves. I'll take silence to mean everything is on track (and take my
silence the same).
turkey
Message from Russia to all
I'm back online, and receiving Press again.
Eric/Nicky.
Message from France to Italy
Hi Mario,
Just checking in. Weather is nice and orders are due again
soon. If you have any wishes, let me know.
As you can see, I am not to interfere in whatever you and
Turkey do with the Italian dots. Still, I would be somewhat
happy to have you around for some more time, maybe there is
still some chat in the game.
Tamas
Message from Italy to France
How's it going? Not much to think about over here. I haven't thought
about this game in quite some time. I put my moves in before the long
break, and frankly don't really even remember what they are.
> Turkey do with the Italian dots. Still, I would be somewhat
> happy to have you around for some more time, maybe there is
> still some chat in the game.
Hey I'd love to be around for awhile soon. Still, I can't see how there
is much that you and I can coordinate. You seem bent on picking up as
many northern centers as you can, with your Russian puppet.
Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it makes it kind of
hard for us to work together, with you being so big and all. So I think
I'll have to be anti-French at least until such time that Turkey becomes a
bigger solo threat than you, which I don't think has happened as of yet
Message from France to Italy
Hi Mario,
> How's it going?
I just pocketed my first ever nopress solo!!!! :-).
> > Turkey do with the Italian dots. Still, I would be
> > somewhat happy to have you around for some more time,
> > maybe there is still some chat in the game.
>
> Hey I'd love to be around for awhile soon. Still, I can't
> see how there is much that you and I can coordinate. You
> seem bent on picking up as many northern centers as you
> can, with your Russian puppet.
Well, what would you want me to do? I thought that you
would prefer this to me supporting Turkey into your centers
as he originally had wanted. It seems that he does not need
it anyway as he is getting it from you. Fine, we cannot
coordinate much but if you recalled the map, you realize
that the French solo threat is pretty much nonexistent.
Just try to show me the 18 centers which I have realistic
chance to pick up. And Turkey knows that very well, but
obviously favors the smaller draw which excludes you.
> Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it
> makes it kind of hard for us to work together, with you
> being so big and all. So I think I'll have to be
> anti-French at least until such time that Turkey becomes a
> bigger solo threat than you, which I don't think has
> happened as of yet
I fail to see how Turkey can be made a solo threat.
Admittably, you guys will stop me from forming my favourite
line in the south but one step backwards, the line holding
Mar-Spa-MAO is still mine and I have to misorder for you to
pick up anything. For the Turkish solo he needs StP and Mun
and everything east of that. Does not look very likely to
create a credible threat there.
Anti-Frenchism is only good for holding your line including
Tunis on the east. This is why I am surprised at your
actions: if you guys are pushing me back far to the west
that basically eliminates you. Squeezing Turkey out of your
sphere to the east would seem to be a much better strategy
because you could become important, you could threaten with
the French solo and if Austria happens to stab, then with
some I-F coordination (admittably risky but what is not for
you) your chances for survival are much better.
Tamas
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
If you tell me that neither LYO nor WES is dislodged then I
might be able to offer something.
Tamas
Message from Italy to France
> If you tell me that neither LYO nor WES is dislodged then I
> might be able to offer something.
Like what? If your offer is a good one, then I can probably see to it
that neither Lyo nor Wes is dislodged
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
> Like what? If your offer is a good one, then I can
> probably see to it that neither Lyo nor Wes is dislodged
I have my own guesses about A's and G's moves. I can offer
that to the best of my knowledge I _will_ try to arrange Ber
staying Italian. Of course they are both enemies so I
cannot make guarantees, but I would be more than happy to
try. (Like Kie in the good old days...:-) ) Of course the
thing fails if you tip off Austria but it is really your
risk only. You can add the usual "France will not attack
Italian centers in the Med" to make it a package if you like
but you are probably tired of hearing it.
As I see, the only way for you to survive is to squeeze
Turkey out of the boot and hope for a Turkish stab on
Austria. That indeed creates a French solo threat which
makes you important, and likely to survive. Otherwise -
quite frankly - I fail to see any chances.
Thoughts?
Message from France to Italy
Will go home in half an hour
T
Austria: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Munich
Austria: Army Galicia SUPPORT Army Silesia → Warsaw
Austria: Army Munich SUPPORT German Army Berlin → Kiel (*void*)
Austria: Army Silesia → Warsaw
Austria: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Army Munich
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT German Army Berlin → Munich
France: Army Edinburgh → North Sea → Denmark
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon SUPPORT Fleet Western Mediterranean (*cut, dislodged*)
France: Fleet Helgoland Bight SUPPORT Army Edinburgh → Denmark
France: Army Holland → Kiel (*bounce*)
France: Army Marseilles → Piedmont
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → North Africa
France: Fleet North Sea CONVOY Army Edinburgh → Denmark
France: Army Ruhr SUPPORT German Army Berlin → Munich
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean SUPPORT Fleet Gulf of Lyon (*cut*)
Germany: Army Berlin → Munich (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Kiel → Berlin (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples SUPPORT Turkish Fleet Ionian Sea → Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy: Army Piedmont → Venice
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Western Mediterranean (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Tuscany SUPPORT Turkish Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Gulf of Lyon
Russia: Fleet Denmark → Sweden
Russia: Army St Petersburg SUPPORT Army Warsaw → Moscow
Russia: Army Warsaw → Moscow (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Greece → Ionian Sea
Turkey: Army Apulia SUPPORT Italian Army Piedmont → Venice
Turkey: Fleet Greece → Ionian Sea
Turkey: Fleet Ionian Sea → Tyrrhenian Sea
Turkey: Army Rumania → Ukraine (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Sevastopol SUPPORT Army Ukraine → Moscow
Turkey: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Gulf of Lyon
Turkey: Army Ukraine → Moscow (*bounce*)
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