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Message from France to Turkey
Dear Sultan,
We have not talked for a while... As far as I am concerned, I still
value our alliance very high and I am most sorry for the recent lack
of communication. I have to apologize for this. The judge has given
me so much headache (and still does): messages going through with a
delay of 2-3 days, I still have not gotten the build results, etc.
And I have been quite nervous about my agreements with my immediate
neighbors given the lack of or sporadic communication opportunities.
I also understood from your previous press as well as your positioning
that you are not keen on moving on Italy so I took this opportunity to
sort out problems on the west.
But this should change now especially if you are interested.
As far as I can see, every opportunity is given for us working towards
a two-way FT draw. In fact the board is quite symmetric, our growth
is quite balanced and the Russian disbands give you what you need: a
safe back from where you can push out to the stalemate line. At the
same time, I finally can see the clash between EG and the Russian
fleets can give them plenty of headache which means that I am able to
come back to the Med so that we can establish our common borders.
Please, tell me your thoughts on this.
As for concrete matters, I am interested in what can I expect from you
this year. Italy's build made it obvious that he does not care about
Venice and is more interested in maintaining the naval position, but
that should be no concern for us if we plan carefully. I want to go
back to the western med in the spring and would like to see you on ION
at the same time. Will you do that?
I am in negotiation with Austria, if you want to give hints as to what
you want me to plant into his ears, I am ready to do so. All in all,
I would love to revitalize our once-busy diplomacy which was so
beneficial for both of us.
I also suggest that we do not leave matters until the last minute
because so that the mail server of the judge will not be a decisive
factor in what we can accomplish.
I am looking forward to your reply,
Tamas
Message from France to all
I am receiving messages from USTX with a random (but sometimes 2-3
day) delay and I still have not gotten the Build Results. If you want
to talk to me, please do not wait until the last minute.
Thanks,
Tamas
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
Ok, the map is quite interesting, plenty of colors everywhere. I
guess we should start talking and it would be wise not to wait until
just before the deadline.
Unfortunately Russia disbanded all his armies which means another free
dot for Turkey. Surely there will be an AT conflict soon, but when?
Do you know anything about that?
As far as I am concerned, I want to stay focused on the west, except
maybe keeping A Pie if you think you need it. To that end I hope that
you by now cleared the rust off your boats and I would like to see
TYS-ION and I would like to see it succeed. That should leave us with
a wide enough DMZ. Needless to say, we both realize that last season
I did everything I promised on my part and it is your turn if I am not
mistaken to correct your error (maybe at some point we can arrange
that both of us do what we are supposed to do ? :-))
As far A Kie is concerned, would you be interested in continuing our
work together? I know little about what Germany and England is up to
but clearly I will attack at least one of them this season. There are
several possibilities to go forward and I would like to know if I can
count on your support or accepting my support if that is needed?
What do you hear these days? Turkey/England/Germany?
Best,
Tamas
Message from France to England
Hi Dave,
Thanks for the Edi build, you will not regret it. As far as I can
tell, Germany is collapsing and it should not last too long to finish
his centers.
I suggest that we start with NTH, otherwise our hands are pretty tied.
At the same time I think I have a quite good plan to move quite fast:
Edi S Hol-NTH, NAO-NWG, Wal-Lon in the spring and Lon-NTH-Hol
supported by Bel in the fall. Germany is kicking the Italians out of
Kiel and thinks that he is safe from the west because we are all
fleets there.
What do you think? I would be quite happy to work this plan out and
execute it which we can clearly do.
At the same time I am going back to the Med especially given the new
Italian fleet. I hope that we do not need to play this game with the
fleets again.
All in all, it is quite rare that players progress it the game without
repeated disagreements, and indeed we have had a few, but I have to
notice that we have indeed achieved quite much and I could hardly
imagine better prospects for our alliance.
Let me know your thoughts, and let me suggest that we do not wait
until just before the deadline this time.
Best,
Tamas
Message from France to Germany
Hi Erik,
I suggest that we start talking as soon as possible so that we do not
depend too much on the niceties of the judge.
Things look pretty bad for you but not nearly as bad as they would if
France was not your friend. And although you will face Turkish armies
at some point in the near future, the Russian disband give you some
breathing room.
Ok, so what can we do this year? I do not think that it is feasible
for you to maintain F NTH especially because there will be noone to
convoy to the island. And indeed, you might want to defend
Scandinavia, but what I want to say is that it is your decision,
whatever it is I acknowledge, let me know.
With F Edi I do not find it likely that you can sneak into Edi and
probably Lon is out of the question too. But Norway is possible and
would be quite satisfying. Russia already asked me who I want him to
give more headache and of course I will tell him that Norway is the
way to go. I was wondering if you was interested in coordinating with
him? Clearly it would be good to chase F BOT out of the Baltic region
and one distinct possibility would be to let it go to Norway through
Sweden. What do you think? That headache that gives to England is
probably enough for you to get rid of A Kie in piece.
Ok, what do we do on the land? I understand that you are offering Ruh
S Bel-Hol but maybe it would be better to play Mun S Ruh-Kie and
support Bel-Hol in the fall from Kie? Or maybe you have a plan for
getting rid of the Italian army all the way?
Ok, these are preliminary thoughts but I think that we should start
talking otherwise we are in the hands of USTX.
Best,
Tamas
Message from France to Russia
Nicky,
I am having a hard time finding out what would be best for me, of
course your pressure on the north is welcome. If you had to pick,
putting pressure on England is probably more important for me than on
Germany at this point.
Are you talking to people these days? Austria, Italy?
Tamas
Message from Turkey to France
France,
>
>
>But this should change now especially if you are interested.
Yes. The big thing though is to get Italy and Austria to really get
entrenched against each other. no? I would rather that they get to
the point where they can't work together before we attack.
>
>As far as I can see, every opportunity is given for us working towards
>a two-way FT draw.
that sounds good.
> In fact the board is quite symmetric, our growth
>is quite balanced and the Russian disbands give you what you need: a
>safe back from where you can push out to the stalemate line. At the
>same time, I finally can see the clash between EG and the Russian
>fleets can give them plenty of headache which means that I am able to
>come back to the Med so that we can establish our common borders.
>Please, tell me your thoughts on this.
>
>As for concrete matters, I am interested in what can I expect from you
>this year. Italy's build made it obvious that he does not care about
>Venice and is more interested in maintaining the naval position, but
>that should be no concern for us if we plan carefully.
that is true. do you want to do it now, or try some diplomacy to
work the situation to our better advantage.
> I want to go
>back to the western med in the spring and would like to see you on ION
>at the same time. Will you do that?
>
>I am in negotiation with Austria, if you want to give hints as to what
>you want me to plant into his ears, I am ready to do so. All in all,
>I would love to revitalize our once-busy diplomacy which was so
>beneficial for both of us.
me too.
>
>I also suggest that we do not leave matters until the last minute
>because so that the mail server of the judge will not be a decisive
>factor in what we can accomplish.
sounds like a good idea.
Message from France to Turkey
Sultan,
I really wish we could talk this turn...
Tamas
Message from France to England
Dave,
I hope that we will indeed talk and will not leave the discussion until
the last minute
Message from France to Germany
Kaiser,
Any comments?
Tamas
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
Any thoughts?
Tamas
Message from France to Russia
Nicky,
Nobody is talking on my end. How about you?
Tamas
Message from Italy to France
> Any thoughts?
Yes.
Most of them are I wish I had more time... :-)
Anyway your initial thoughts sound good to me. You are right, I
appreciate you moving your fleets west, and I will be unanchoring my
fleets, knocking out the rust, and heading east. Do you hear anything
from A/T?
Message from Russia to France
Tamas,
> Nobody is talking on my end. How about you?
No, it's been quiet here, too. What are you planning to do, and how
can I be of assistance?
Nicky.
Message from England to France
Tamas,
I just got a press from you that seems to indicate you never got this. Here it is again. I'll be available all day today and tomorrow.
>Thanks for the Edi build, you will not regret it. As far as I can
>tell, Germany is collapsing and it should not last too long to finish
>his centers.
That seems to be what the smart money says. Can't say I'm too sorry about it.
>I suggest that we start with NTH, otherwise our hands are pretty tied.
>At the same time I think I have a quite good plan to move quite fast:
>Edi S Hol-NTH, NAO-NWG, Wal-Lon in the spring and Lon-NTH-Hol
>supported by Bel in the fall. Germany is kicking the Italians out of
>Kiel and thinks that he is safe from the west because we are all
>fleets there.
Is ENG support a possibility? Showing you all of my cards, I'd like to use Hol to support Kie. I owe an old debt to the Italian, and have offered to pay it back this turn so it doesn't hang over my head any longer. That may change - I haven't heard back from him - but ENG S Edi-NTH is probably my favorite scenario.
>At the same time I am going back to the Med especially given the new
>Italian fleet. I hope that we do not need to play this game with the
>fleets again.
I can't imagine that we would, especially with Germany's apparent demise.
>Let me know your thoughts, and let me suggest that we do not wait
>until just before the deadline this time.
Sounds good - I'm available all day tomorrow and Monday, so we should be able to figure something out.
Yours,
Dave
Message from Russia to France
Tamas,
> putting pressure on England is probably more important for me
> than on Germany at this point.
Ok, I'll take that under advisement.
> Are you talking to people these days? Austria, Italy?
Disbanding three took a lot out of me, and combined with other
real-life factors, it has cut back my Press a great deal. I know
that now is the time when writing is actually most important, but
I'm not so sure that most of my opponents realize that I could be
of more use to them as two Fleets than as two Centers.
Nicky.
Message from Italy to all
Is anyone else suffering from severe mail lag?
Message from France to all
> Broadcast message from dan@insidecorner.com as Italy in 'comments':
> Is anyone else suffering from severe mail lag?
A message seems to take 2-3 days to get delivered, pretty impossible
to communicate if you want to exchange thoughts. I certainly have not
been able to finish what I have wanted this season (again).
Having said this, I am pretty busy but will reply all of your personal
messages (which I just received) in a few hours.
Maybe we should consider CC-ing to real email addresses to overcome
the problem but I think it makes the most sense if we _all_ commit to
doing it (so that one knows that no reply means no reply).
Tamas
Message from Turkey to all
I am sending ths message Monday March 24th at around 11:00am eastern time
until i am sure this is working, i'll probably just send everything
via regular email also.
Turkey
Message from Austria to all
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Broadcast message from albrigh@mail.med.upenn.edu as Turkey in 'comments':
>
>
> I am sending ths message Monday March 24th at around 11:00am eastern time
>
> until i am sure this is working, i'll probably just send everything
> via regular email also.
I am recieving this at 11:02 on Monday March 24th.
Message from Germany to France
Tamas:
I got a message from you Saturday, but it was before I received the build
results, so I didn't quite understand it. Could you resend? I don't have it
with me here at work, and I'd like to take a look at it now.
Kaiser Erik
Message from Italy to France
Did you get my message from yesterday (or was it SAturday?)
Message from France to Turkey
Sultan,
>Yes. The big thing though is to get Italy and Austria to really get
>entrenched against each other. no? I would rather that they get to
>the point where they can't work together before we attack.
>
>
As far as I understand, they are already quite against each other. A
Ven depends on my goodwill (see the last season), other than that
Austria is knocking on the door intensively. And the only reason I
supported A Ven was that I did not want Austria to pick up everything
before you are willing to divide the shares with me.
Clearly, Italy will move his fleets somewhere this season, meaning that
either of us will have to act, no matter what. I think that it would be
wise to get rid of this uncertainty as soon as we can, we certainly do
not want Austria to build for Ven and Rom while we are
defending/waiting. N'est ce pas?
>that sounds good.
>
>
And I mean it. I really think that we can discuss the line itself very
soon.
>>As for concrete matters, I am interested in what can I expect from you
>>this year. Italy's build made it obvious that he does not care about
>>Venice and is more interested in maintaining the naval position, but
>>that should be no concern for us if we plan carefully.
>>
>>
>
>that is true. do you want to do it now, or try some diplomacy to
>work the situation to our better advantage.
>
>
I think I would prefer going as soon as possible, that is now. The
problem is that I have to do something with my fleets and it's either
England or Italy. England can be kept at bay with one fleet in the
present situation but a full-fledged attack against him would draw my
naval resources and it will take some time before I can get back to
Italy with a build in my pocket.
What worries me a little is that the IONian is under Italian control.
There is simply no point in me starting an attack until this remains so
because I cannot have a succesful supported attack on any of the
centers. (Save for those which I cannot hold against Austria...)
>>I also suggest that we do not leave matters until the last minute
>>because so that the mail server of the judge will not be a decisive
>>factor in what we can accomplish.
>>
>>
>
>
>sounds like a good idea.
>
>
Yes, but unfortunately the judge has thought otherwise :-(. Of course
we should stay busy but I am afraid it will be hard to exchange 4-5 more
messages this season. Hopefully we can get away with some basics and
before I submit my orders I would love to know your final word, whether
I can expect you on the ION?
Tamas
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
Yes, I did receive your message (just recently :-().
>Anyway your initial thoughts sound good to me. You are right, I
>appreciate you moving your fleets west, and I will be unanchoring my
>fleets, knocking out the rust, and heading east. Do you hear anything
>from A/T?
>
>
Austria is somewhat silent after our recent correspondence before the
fall moves. Just for your entertainment, it was something like this:
> > Can I count on your not supporting A Ven?
> ROTFL, You must be kidding
Apparently I should have made myself clearer, he for some reason
understood this the other way round :-).
In any case, he still wants Venice he says so, or more precisely he says
that he wants Venice to fall and says that he is happy supporting me in
if I do not want him to take it. But the judge outage makes it quite
uncertain that I am up to date with what's going on.
Similarly with Turkey. He apologizes that he did not fulfill his duties
as far as hammering you (yes, I am afraid we did have some agreement
like that some time ago <humble apology> sorry </humble apology> and
says that no matter what I do this era is clearly over because thanks to
the Russian disbands he has no other choice but to secure his seas. Of
course I am invited to the show...
England is saying that he wants to support A Kie. I hardly understand
what that is good for and it somewhat contradicts with my plans (as far
as F Hol, not as far as your army). In any case, did you promise in
exchange that you would not support F Bel-Hol? You might not want to
share this particular thought with him but I would not mind your
reaction on the idea.
As for the southern fleets, I want to see a successful F Tys-ION.
Clearly this is the only fleet movement which is in accord with our
peaceful nature so I would like to hear your confirment on this. As far
as the rest of the board/units are concerned, I am open to suggestions.
I hope that we can talk a little tonight, I am not constantly online but
will check email 5-6 times before going to bed.
Tamas
Message from France to Germany
Kaiser,
I would love to chat but if we do not have the opportunity, I still
would like to know if you have ordered Ruh S Bel-Hol?
Tamas
Message from Germany to France
Tamas:
Yes, that's been ordered. In exchange, can you order support for Nth - Lon?
Kaiser Erik
Message from Russia to all
> Broadcast message from thauer@bluewin.ch as France in 'comments':
>
> Maybe we should consider CC-ing to real email addresses to overcome
> the problem but I think it makes the most sense if we _all_ commit to
> doing it (so that one knows that no reply means no reply).
>
> Tamas
I'll try to CC: my replies, as well.
Nicky.
Message from France to Germany
Kaiser,
>Yes, that's been ordered. In exchange, can you order support for Nth - Lon?
>
>
I am afraid, I cannot do that. And in fact I do not want to see
NTH-Lon, because I want Wal-Lon to succeed. You surely understand, why...
But there is a good chance that I can support you to Lon in the fall.
There are several options which you might want to consider:
1. NTH-Hel: This way F Hol is annihilated in the spring and you can
choose to go to Hol in the fall if you want (I definitely will let you
in), or retake Kiel.
2. NTH-Nor supported by Swe
3. NTH hold. In this case I am confident that NTH will not be dislodged
and all the options are there for the fall.
Please let me know what you want, especially the confirmation that you
do not move to Lon. If I do not get that, I will have to rethink my
whole plan
Tamas
Message from France to England
Dave,
Sorry for the delay.
>>I suggest that we start with NTH, otherwise our hands are pretty tied.
>>At the same time I think I have a quite good plan to move quite fast:
>>Edi S Hol-NTH, NAO-NWG, Wal-Lon in the spring and Lon-NTH-Hol
>>supported by Bel in the fall. Germany is kicking the Italians out of
>>Kiel and thinks that he is safe from the west because we are all
>>fleets there.
>>
>>
>
>Is ENG support a possibility? Showing you all of my cards, I'd like to use Hol to support Kie. I owe an old debt to the Italian, and have offered to pay it back this turn so it doesn't hang over my head any longer. That may change - I haven't heard back from him - but ENG S Edi-NTH is probably my favorite scenario.
>
>
What's most important for me is that NTH is taken care of in the spring.
I would like to pull back from ENG as early as the fall but I cannot do
it if there is a possible German retreat there. I also want to see
NAO-NWG, not just to feel safe when I am moving back to WES but more
importantly because I do not want to see a german fleet wondering around
your island.
I understand your intention to use F Hol to support Kiel. Given that
you have not heard from Italy, this sounds like a wild guess but I
certainly will not tie your hands. OTOH this means that your fleet
might block the convoy of your army in the fall, which somewhat slows
things down.
OK, I think that this is probably enough to craft an agreement. I want
to hear confirmation on these:
1. Taking NTH, including your cover for Lon so that he cannot get to ENG.
2. NAO-NWG so that MAO-WMS is safe
Other than that, let me know your update with Italy and how it affects
the way NTH is taken and what support I should order.
Looks good to me so far,
Best,
Tamas
Message from France to Russia
Nicky,
Sorry for the silence. Besides the judge it had to do with being
undecided as to how to proceed. I am really not very sure what to
suggest to you, the disconnectedness of your two fleets seems a little
bad. Some arrangement with Germany might help but I do not know if that
is on the cards or not.
Of course what would help me the most these days is information,
especially about Italy and Austria but I understand that you do not have
much yourself. Clearly there are three possible roots in front of me,
England, Germany or Italy. I am talking to all of them and will
probably postpone the decision until the last possible minute. When I
asked you to pressurize England, I had EF against G in mind and your
pressure would have contained E's growth. While this is still one
possible way to go, I am playing with the other two possibilities too
but I believe that in any case probably your pressure on England is
what's most welcome.
OK, this is where I am now, if you happen to have any thoughts on I
and/or A (or even together), that would be great,
Tamas
Message from France to Austria
Kaiser,
Sorry for the silence. Any thoughts on how to proceed? Your taking of
Venice is welcome in the spring, army or fleet you decide. If I were
you I probably would take it so that we avoid a repeated confusion we
had last fall.
What do you hear from Italy these days? Turkey is asking me what to do
with Austria. I told him to stay away from you, hopefully he listens to
me.
Best,
Tamas
Message from Austria to France
>
> Sorry for the silence. Any thoughts on how to proceed? Your taking of
> Venice is welcome in the spring, army or fleet you decide. If I were
> you I probably would take it so that we avoid a repeated confusion we
> had last fall.
Noted.
> What do you hear from Italy these days? Turkey is asking me what to do
> with Austria. I told him to stay away from you, hopefully he listens to
> me.
I hear that he wants to move on you, and Turkey.
thats about it.
Andy
Message from England to France
Hello, Tamas -
>What's most important for me is that NTH is taken care of in the spring.
>I would like to pull back from ENG as early as the fall but I cannot do
>it if there is a possible German retreat there. I also want to see
>NAO-NWG, not just to feel safe when I am moving back to WES but more
>importantly because I do not want to see a german fleet wondering around
>your island.
>I understand your intention to use F Hol to support Kiel. Given that
>you have not heard from Italy, this sounds like a wild guess but I
>certainly will not tie your hands. OTOH this means that your fleet
>might block the convoy of your army in the fall, which somewhat slows
>things down.
>OK, I think that this is probably enough to craft an agreement. I want
>to hear confirmation on these:
>1. Taking NTH, including your cover for Lon so that he cannot get to ENG.
>2. NAO-NWG so that MAO-WMS is safe
Italy and I have spoken, and while he would appreciate Hol S Kie, he said that he could live without it if I let him know ahead of time...so, that option is available. All that is set in stone right now is Edi-NTH, NAO-NWG, Wal-Lon. I could support Edi-NTH from Hol, from Nor, from both, or from neither. My preference is to use Hol S Kie, Kie S Hol and take support from ENG, which is uncuttable, as opposed to Nor, which is eminently cuttable. Your thoughts on that?
The orders, then, would be Wal-Lon, Edi-NTH, NAO-NWG, Hol S Kie (with Kie S Hol), (ENG S Edi-NTH), and Nor either S Edi-NTH or loaned to the Russian.
I'm available for another few hours, at least. Let's bring this to a resolution.
Yours,
Dave
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
I am available for two more hours and waiting for your suggestions.
Given the problem with the judge, I would at least appreciate a short
note that I should not expect more input from you before the orders are
due.
With best regards,
Tamas
Message from Italy to France
Sorry - sent you seomthing a couple of hours ago - but used the wrong
signon :-/ Of course the judge didn't (and still hasn't) told me about
it...
> In any case, he still wants Venice he says so, or more precisely he says
> that he wants Venice to fall and says that he is happy supporting me in
> if I do not want him to take it. But the judge outage makes it quite
> uncertain that I am up to date with what's going on.
Right. Well, can I count on your support from Pie again?
> says that no matter what I do this era is clearly over because thanks to
> the Russian disbands he has no other choice but to secure his seas. Of
> course I am invited to the show...
Hmm interesting.
>
> England is saying that he wants to support A Kie. I hardly understand
> what that is good for and it somewhat contradicts with my plans (as far
> as F Hol, not as far as your army). In any case, did you promise in
> exchange that you would not support F Bel-Hol? You might not want to
> share this particular thought with him but I would not mind your
> reaction on the idea.
He asked me for Hol S Kie, kie S Hol. I agreed, but then later told him
if he wanted to use F Hol for something else (like supporting himself into
Nth), I was fine with that (since I figured if he wanted Kiel, he'd cut
Hol with Nth-Hol
> As for the southern fleets, I want to see a successful F Tys-ION.
> Clearly this is the only fleet movement which is in accord with our
> peaceful nature so I would like to hear your confirment on this. As far
> as the rest of the board/units are concerned, I am open to suggestions.
Right. That is agreed. Maybe Pie-Tyl, Nap-Apu instead of Pie S Ven?
That would either cut support for an attack or let me retreat to Rome and
let us retake Ven in fall, with better position. Just thinking out loud
Message from Germany to France
Tamas:
Okay, I'll hold off on moving to London. We'll see where things stand after
this turn and decided whether I'd like support next turn then.
Kaiser Erik
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
[on Turkey...]
>Hmm interesting.
>
>
Why would you say that? Not that I am not assuming some nice talk
between you and the Sultan and I have seen a few lies of Turkey this
game but just looking at the board I would say that it is quite a
restraint, something I have yet to see from any Turkey, if he harbors
his fleets in this position.
>He asked me for Hol S Kie, kie S Hol. I agreed, but then later told him
>if he wanted to use F Hol for something else (like supporting himself into
>Nth), I was fine with that (since I figured if he wanted Kiel, he'd cut
>Hol with Nth-Hol
>
>
This is indeed my understanding. Can you tell me what I can expect from
Kiel after all?
>Right. That is agreed. Maybe Pie-Tyl, Nap-Apu instead of Pie S Ven?
>That would either cut support for an attack or let me retreat to Rome and
>let us retake Ven in fall, with better position. Just thinking out loud
>
>
Ok, let me think loud too. With due respect to our friendship and not
forgetting my commitment to it, I would be somewhat cautious to jump on
this lead after the fall and the winter term. Clearly there is some
understanding between you and Austria and clearly you will do something
with your fleets this season, and clearly either me or Turkey will be
disappointed. If it happens that your gut feelings make you think that
both Austria and Turkey complies that might mean some pretty devastating
news if I fall into a trap like that. For example if Kie S Tyr-Mun
(which I have no objection against) then I would rather not move
Pie-Tyr, especially with F Tun/F Tys unknown and Turkish holds.
That said, I am more than ready to follow up with our cooperation but I
really would like to see some friendly moves in the spring first. I
still have not heard that Tys is moving away and indeed, if Turkey is
staying out of your way, then I would rather offer A Pie's support for a
possible retake of Ven in the fall - if needed, making sure that all of
your fleets have a purpose other than French seas (Nap-Apu). That way
you still maintain Venice with my help and at the same time it gives
some further motivation for you to keep my friendship until September.
All in all, I am somewhat undecided still. I am clearly, violently
pro-Italian as I showed in my Fall and Winter orders but at this point I
am somewhat cautious of overdoing it before I can see at least some of
the Fall's favours returned. I hope that you understand it and agree
that good fences make good neighbors.
I would appreciate a definite reply on the concrete matters (Tys and
Kie), so that we both have a clear picture going into the fall on where
we stand. Thanks,
Tamas
Message from France to Germany
Erik,
>Okay, I'll hold off on moving to London. We'll see where things stand after
>this turn and decided whether I'd like support next turn then.
>
>
Thanks for your cooperation. Your patience will be duly returned before
the end of the year.
Have you considered doing something with the Tzar? From what I
understand out of his words, he might be willing to do damage to England
even with your help.
Tamas
Message from France to Austria
Kaiser,
Thanks for your note. I am now submitting my orders and I
just realized that there is a small chance that I am
screwing up things for you. Although I rated a supported AI
attack on Mun at a quite low probability, I did say OK when
Germany asked for supporting Mun. Most probably this does
not affect your spring orders (and I am not sure I am
issuing a support after all), so I guess you should not put
a high emphasis on it.
Italy has asked for continued support of Venice. I have
promised you that I will not block another attempt of yours
there but your latest message suggests that you might not be
forcing Ven after the fall. If this is the case indeed,
then I would not mind issuing the requested support to
increase the confusion. Let me know.
Best,
Tamas
Message from Italy to France
More later - but I wanted to reply that I amd efinitely moving
Tys-Ion with support from Tun. F nap will either move to Apu or also
support. I thought I said that in my last email but maybe I was not
clear.
Message from Russia to France
Tamas,
> the disconnectedness of your two fleets seems a little bad.
Yes. I hadn't considered that when I disbanded, but I saw it as soon
as I started looking at options.
> Some arrangement with Germany might help but I do not know if that
> is on the cards or not.
I am trying to negotiate with both England and Germany, and convince
AT that they should ignore Warsaw, and focus on each other.
> Of course what would help me the most these days is information,
> especially about Italy and Austria but I understand that you do not
> have much yourself.
Italy has never revealed anything to me, unfortunately. That's a big
part of the reason I didn't pursue an IR alliance when we were both
strong. My hope is that Turkey will attack Austria, and leave War
and StP alone. This will force Austria to defend/counter-attack.
It seems like the smart thing for Turkey to do, but I don't understand
what motivates our Turk, so I can't predict what he'll do.
> When I asked you to pressurize England, I had EF against G in mind
> and your pressure would have contained E's growth.
That makes sense, and with England at 5, and Germany at 4; it's
probably the way to go, if I have a choice.
Nicky.
Message from Austria to France
Tamas,
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly.
> Thanks for your note. I am now submitting my orders and I
> just realized that there is a small chance that I am
> screwing up things for you. Although I rated a supported AI
> attack on Mun at a quite low probability, I did say OK when
> Germany asked for supporting Mun. Most probably this does
> not affect your spring orders (and I am not sure I am
> issuing a support after all), so I guess you should not put
> a high emphasis on it.
It doesnt, please issue the support, and make him feel safe.
> Italy has asked for continued support of Venice. I have
> promised you that I will not block another attempt of yours
> there but your latest message suggests that you might not be
> forcing Ven after the fall. If this is the case indeed,
> then I would not mind issuing the requested support to
> increase the confusion. Let me know.
>
Go ahead and issue the order.
All the best,
Andy
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
>More later - but I wanted to reply that I amd efinitely moving
>Tys-Ion with support from Tun.
>
Thanks for the confirmation, indeed this has not appeared in your
previous messages. This is enough for me to assure you that you will
not lose Venice in the spring. In exchange can I ask that A Kie is
ordered any of Kie-Mun, Kie-Hol or Kie S Bel-Hol? I expect that I can
further repay this favor in the fall.
Tamas
Message from France to England
Dave,
I think that we have everything ironed out. Good job, the kind of thing
we have been waiting for since the beginning :-).
Do you hear from Italy by any chance these days? There was some funny
talk between us, I was also trying to influence the order of A Kie (to
avoid Kie S Tyr-Mun), making some suggestions out of the blue but he
never replies. Turkey says that he is doing everything he can
diplomatically to keep my fleets on the west - of course this is out of
question - but it is strange that he does not write me.
Tamas
Message from England to France
Tamas,
>Do you hear from Italy by any chance these days? There was some funny
>talk between us, I was also trying to influence the order of A Kie (to
>avoid Kie S Tyr-Mun), making some suggestions out of the blue but he
>never replies. Turkey says that he is doing everything he can
>diplomatically to keep my fleets on the west - of course this is out of
>question - but it is strange that he does not write me.
I haven't traded more than a message or two with Turkey the entire game. I have spoken with Italy recently, but only to iron out Hol S Kie, Kie S Hol. You want I should try to find something else out?
Also, do I understand that ENG will be supporting Edi-NTH? I think that's the meaning of your press; I just want to make sure that we're on the same page.
Much obliged,
Dave
Message from France to Turkey
Andy,
> I will move against Italy, but I need to bring all 4 fleets to bear on
> the Ionian, no? or will you be there to help out? If you say yes,
> then I can attack IONthis turn, otherwise I need to position myself
> better
After moving back and forth, I need to adjust my position too (for
example F ENG will not be free until after the spring), although I
should point out that A Pie has been there and waiting for orders for
some time. I am not saying that MAO returning to the Med is out of
question this season but real naval strength can be expected right after
that only. I guess I am being fair this way.
> see above. I guess unless we can talk quickly, I will position myself
> to take ION next moves (not this set)..plus that will give us more
> time to plot what is going..and hopefully I will have a better idea of
> what Austria is up to.
OK, this is fair enough.
Tamas
Message from France to England
Dave,
>I haven't traded more than a message or two with Turkey the entire game. I have spoken with Italy recently, but only to iron out Hol S Kie, Kie S Hol. You want I should try to find something else out?
>
>
That's fine, thanks. I just wanted to know if he is ignoring me
exclusively.
>Also, do I understand that ENG will be supporting Edi-NTH? I think that's the meaning of your press; I just want to make sure that we're on the same page.
>
>
Yes, ENG S Edi-NTH ordered and I am assuming the rest described in your
previous message too. Anything else is a stab, no room for
misunderstanding.
Tamas
Message from Turkey to France
France,
> Andy,
>
> > I will move against Italy, but I need to bring all 4 fleets to bear on
> > the Ionian, no? or will you be there to help out? If you say yes,
> > then I can attack IONthis turn, otherwise I need to position myself
> > better
>
> After moving back and forth, I need to adjust my position too (for
> example F ENG will not be free until after the spring), although I
> should point out that A Pie has been there and waiting for orders for
> some time. I am not saying that MAO returning to the Med is out of
> question this season but real naval strength can be expected right after
> that only. I guess I am being fair this way.
>
> > see above. I guess unless we can talk quickly, I will position myself
> > to take ION next moves (not this set)..plus that will give us more
> > time to plot what is going..and hopefully I will have a better idea of
> > what Austria is up to.
>
> OK, this is fair enough.
OK, we will talk after these moves and I am in position.
Turkey
Message from France to Italy
Mario,
> More later - but I wanted to reply that I amd efinitely moving
> Tys-Ion with support from Tun. F nap will either move to Apu or also
I did not get your followup press, hopefully you did not mean after the
moves. If this was due to an email failure again then please make sure
that I get what you wanted to say before the turn processes (I am online
all day). But in any case if you send me a note along with your submission
of orders, I would greatly appreciate. My understanding is that this does
not concern the fleets of us (which we have already worked out), just what
A Kie is doing.
thanks,
Tamas
Austria: Army Budapest → Galicia
Austria: Army Rumania → Serbia
Austria: Army Serbia → Trieste
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Adriatic Sea
Austria: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Army Serbia → Trieste
England: Fleet Edinburgh → North Sea (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Holland SUPPORT Italian Army Kiel (*void*)
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean → Norwegian Sea
England: Fleet Norway SUPPORT Fleet Edinburgh → North Sea (*cut, dislodged*)
England: Army Wales → London
France: Fleet Belgium → Holland (*bounce*)
France: Army Brest → English Channel → Wales
France: Army Burgundy HOLD
France: Fleet English Channel CONVOY Army Brest → Wales
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Spain (south coast)
France: Army Piedmont → Marseilles
Germany: Army Munich SUPPORT Army Ruhr
Germany: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT French Fleet Belgium → Holland (*cut*)
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT French Fleet Belgium → Holland (*cut*)
Germany: Fleet Sweden SUPPORT Russian Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) → Norway
Italy: Army Kiel → Ruhr (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Apulia
Italy: Fleet Tunis SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Ionian Sea
Italy: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Venice HOLD
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia CONVOY Turkish Army Moscow → Switzerland
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) → Norway
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea → Eastern Mediterranean
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea → Constantinople
Turkey: Army Bulgaria HOLD
Turkey: Fleet Constantinople → Aegean Sea
Turkey: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Moscow → Ukraine (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Sevastopol → Ukraine (*bounce*)
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