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Turkey: Army Budapest can retreat to Galicia
Message from Germany to England and France
Interesting moves.
Unfortunately I'll be out of town the rest of the weekend. So I can't
talk about them until later.
Fredd
Message from England to all
I did not send this message.
Ivy
>Broadcast message in 'titleist':
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>>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
>>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
>What is this a novice game?
>
>I hope that I remembered to make this a grey broadcast this time
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>England
Message from England to Germany
Fredd,
I am glad that it happened this way, mutual and simultaneous. We gave it
our best shot. In all honesty, I think that both of us could have handled
the alliance a little better, and against lesser opponents we would have
prevailed in spite of our inperfections.
Let's keep communicating. There are lots of twists and turns left in this game.
Ivy
Message from Germany to England
Ivy:
I guess you could say that at least we tried. But you've been
swinging my way for awhile now. I've seen those signs before.
Good luck with Russia. Working with him is like pulling teeth.
Fredd
Message from France to all
>Boadcast message from England in 'titleist':
>I did not send this message.
I think that someone was having some fun with us Ivy.
I did not send the French message either. I do
understand the deadlines now and was on time.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to Germany
Fredd:
I guess France was not your choice. What was your
choice?
--Prince Boar
Message from Germany to England
Oddly enough we finally managed to clear the North Sea. :-)
Care to keep it that way?
This is actually funny. We both stabbed, but the end result is the same
as if we had cooperated.
Fredd
Message from England to Germany
Fredd,
>Good luck with Russia. Working with him is like pulling teeth.
Oh, I know. He takes a rigid position and repeats his arguments
endlessly. I had some experience with him in the first year after he moved
his army to StP. Maybe we are all older and wiser by now.
Ivy
Message from England to Germany
>Oddly enough we finally managed to clear the North Sea. :-)
>This is actually funny. We both stabbed, but the end result is the same
>as if we had cooperated.
Delightful! I hadn't noticed that. The only difference is the fleet in Nwg.
The other thing I noticed is that Eng s Bel->Pic; Nth->Bel; Mun s Ruh->Bur
would have worked. We would have been in Picardy and Burgundy, and my Nth
fleet would have vacated to the south. I wouldn't have given this much of
a chance in advance, though. If only we could see what others were
ordering in advance!
>Care to keep it that way?
There is a way. I could self-bounce. At least I will think about it.
Ivy
Message from Germany to England
> Oh, I know. He takes a rigid position and repeats his arguments
> endlessly. I had some experience with him in the first year after
> he moved his army to StP. Maybe we are all older and wiser by now.
Nope sorry, he's not. I offered to leave him alone in WAR and MOS (but
he had to give up STP) Somehow after many press exchanges that was
turned into me destroying his fleet so that he could rebuild an army. I
can just see the arguments over him supporting you or you supporting
him. Trust me, if you guys are going to reach an agreement it'll be
you supporting him in.
This whole thing is funny. We couldn't agree on what to do so we both
stab. And wind up with better positioning than when we started.
Although I've been trying to figure out the different permutations to a
ER attack on SWE and STP, I've also noticed that there are other
options.
Look at this
Norway takes SWE - gives you a build
DEN and NWG bounce the North Sea.
you can attack France somehow as he won't expect it now.
I take STP - Russia can't dislodge me without your help.
I take MOS or WAR with Turkey's help. I build one.
I can stay in TYR and continue to harras Italy.
Win, Win, Win
I love it when a plan comes together. Ha!
Fredd
Message from Germany to England
Another option is that I can now move to PIE and on into MAR.
This just keeps getting better.
Fredd
Message from Germany to France
> I guess France was not your choice. What was your
> choice?
To attack in all directions simultaneously of course.
I decided to not go away this weekend. So I guess I'd better look over
the damage.
England and I both stabbed. The end result being almost the same as
what we were planning together. Except that I'm not in BUR and England
is in NWG. The benefit to me is that the North Sea is finally clear.
It's ironic actually, or tragic.
Too bad that you supported BEL. :-(
It appears that Russia has decided to defend STP with vigor. I laughed
at your comments about working with him a couple of days ago. It's like
pulling teeth. You suggest something, and he'll never agree. He's
always got a completely different plan.
I really don't want to fight him, but he leaves little choice.
As I stated earlier it's my belief that unless something is done soon
about Italy he will win. Hence my move of Munich to TYR. It didn't
look like Russia would help out, so I had to just go alone. I hope that
no matter what happens between EFG that you'll be able to put at least
one fleet into the Med.
Where do we go from here? Glad you asked. I think what we were talking
about before is still on the table. I want to keep the army in TYR. IE
I don't want to move it back to defend MUN. Therefore I need you to not
be attacking MUN. I guess that puts you in the drivers seat. I'm also
going to be fighting Ivy now. I wouldn't mind seeing him lose a piece.
Therefore I now have two good reasons to support you to BEL. From BUR,
and with only HOL, as RUH will be heading to MUN.
Fredd
Message from Germany to Turkey
Ali:
Interesting moves.
Ivy and I both stabbed simultaneously. The end result being
approximately what we were negotiating over anyway. With the added
benefit that the North Sea is now clear. Unfortunately, it's now war.
Luckily he's not in great position to put me in real danger
immediately. Although if he and Russia cooperate and guess right, I
could lose a center. I can't imagine that he and Russia will actually
get their act together though. One has to agree to support the other
in. Russia will never agree to that. He always wants the advantage.
Will England support Russia into either SWE or STP. I doubt it. That
doesn't get him much, and perhaps he still has hopes of working with me.
I tried like hell to get Russia to move south to help you. All to no
avail. All of his units moved north, or tried. My opinion is that if
he isn't going to help then he should be eliminated. We can do just
that. You can support my army in LVN into MOS or WAR. Then if England
doesn't help Russia up north, he'll be down to one unit.
Best of all I'll get a build that I can use to further harrass Italy.
I imagine that you've noticed my army in TYR. As you said supporting me
into VIE might be a good option, but perhaps using GAL to support LVN to
WAR would be a better option.
Fredd
Turkey: Army Budapest → Galicia
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