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Message from Master to all
Welcome to 'titleist', the championship game of the 2000-01
Vermont Group Full Press Tournament. The first round reduced
49 players down to 21 and the second round reduced us down to
these seven. They've earned their way into the final and I
wish them the best.
The name 'titleist' refers to the fact that the winner will
consider himself the champion or title-holder for full-press
Diplomacy in the Vermont Group. This winner will be a soloist,
or the largest member of a draw. If the two largest members
of a draw are of equal size, they will be declared co-titleists.
'titleist' is also a very popular brand of golf balls and
golf equipment, which fits in well with the tendencies of your
game master. :-)
I'm capturing all partial press for display as a showcase game,
so keep in mind that your words will be recorded for posterity.
Keep the potty mouth to a minimum. ;-)
I've set the press to WGP-, and moved the first deadline to Friday,
July 13. There are two players who are in and out a bit early
on, so I don't want anyone short changed in the first season.
Let's come out swinging!
Doug
Message from France to all
Bonjour Europe and La Grande Assemblage of Observers.
Je m'appelle Prince Xavier Boar!
My father has grown ill and my brother, the Dauphin, has
taken over the day to day running of France. Since the
eldest tends to inherit the property and titles, most
often the second eldest turns to a religious education.
I am no different. But being the son of the King of
France, I could not follow a career in the Clergy,
therefore I have settled for being the spiritual leader
of France. I leave the teaching of religion to our
Bishops and the Church; I focus instead on philosophy and
the arts. Given that I am a "people person", by brother
has allowed me the privilege of being France's embassy to
Europe.
I pledge to take up this office with vigor and faithfully
fulfill my duty to both France and my neighbors in
Europe. I leave you with this motto which describes
myself, my brother, and our father.
France, her pen, her sword, and her legacy.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Germany
Friend in Germany,
My first letter goes to you as I see a potential strong
ally and a very important neighbor. Before we get into
the details of troop movements and treaties, I ask the
favor of discussing a philosophical issue with you. I
have often wondered at the parallelism between the
English-German relationship and the Turkish-Austrian one.
So many people feel that the Turkish-Austrian alliance
is untenable, strongly favoring Turkey. Austria gets
caught up between two wings of Turkish units and
eventually those wing collapse in an effective betrayal
and stab. I understand that there are times when the
alliance can be effective, but so very often the Austrian
refuses to consider it; and when he opts for it, he
regrets it.
When I look at the northern situation, the English-German
situation looks greatly parallel. Yet there is so often
an English-German alliance. I have often seen the Brit
collapse on the German with a might stab. But the German
is so seldom loath to engage in such a dangerous
alliance. To top off the situation, England has such an
strong defensive position and Germany has all those
coastal centers exposed to the British fleets.
I am sure that my humble strategic abilities are missing
the obvious. I have asked the Dauphin, but he gets
frustrated when I do not follow his lightening fast
explanations of fleets and armies and key supply centers.
Perhaps can you fill me in why Germany would consider
such a seemingly lopsided alliance? This would clear a
cloudy mystery with which I have struggled. In addition,
armed with that knowledge I may better argue with you why
France would be a superior ally.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to France
Prince Boar
A very interesting opening. Let's do as you suggest and look at a FG
alliance from the same perspective of AT.
I'll admit that there has been times when I've done exactly as you
say. I've been Austria and basically refused to ally with Turkey. For
exactly the same reasons that you state. Turkey has to go around both
sides of Austria. Creating a pincher which can snap shut at any time.
I'll also admit that that I made a mistake in rejecting Turkey from the
start. It turned out that Turkey was the superior player. He was also
much easier to work with than my allies. Perhaps a AT wouldn't work in
the long run, but I wish that I had a least tried it for a few years. I
would have enjoyed that game much better. I won't make that mistake a
2nd time.
Turning to the FG situation, there are similarities and differences.
The biggest difference is that France doesn't have to completely
envelope Germany as in the case of Turkey around Austria. There is the
southern option, which is available to France. France can move against
Italy without raising much concern in the German homeland at all.
This, in fact, will leave Germany to undertake 'adventures' to the
northwest. England would be a problem under this scenario. If either
Germany or France attacks England with too much force the other will
become very suspicious. Three French fleets north of the MAO and
Germany will be sweating bullets. Similarly, a couple of German fleets
in the North Sea and beyond, coupled with two armies near the French
border and the French will wonder about blitzkrieg.
Turning to another subject. I'm greatly looking forward to this game.
The other rounds of this tournament played our quite differently than
normal full press games. When the only goal is to get to the next round
it's easy to play for the draw. Now that there are no more next rounds
we all must go for the win. I suspect that we'll see this game ebb and
flow like nothing that has gone before. I wonder (out loud) if a
superior strategy might be to partner up with someone through the mid
game, and at that time both 'partners' go for the win.
Fred
Message from Germany to all
Hear Ye. Hear Ye. The Great Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Frederick XXXIV extends his well wishes and salutations to all the
other noble rulers of Europe. Emissaries of the higher order are on
their way to your capitals. They bear gifts of great value and mystery.
Please receive them with kindness and wisdom.
Emperor Frederick.
Message from England to Germany
My dearest Freddy,
Greetings, old chap!
How would you like to have Norway? Please read on.
I am interested in a three-way attack on France and a GEI split of France,
Iberia, and Belgium. Even if Italy prefers to go east instead, I still
would like the two of us to take on the Frenchman.
There are several reasons why this might interest you. First of all, I am
tired of giving France his choice of England or Germany for an ally. That
reduces our own odds of finding a decent friend to 50-50, instead of the
2/3 opportunity that is fairer. Also, killing France has the additional
advantage of eliminating someone who is likely to be an extremely strong
and dangerous player to both of us if he gets moving with any strength
(someone who probably got his first choice of nations).
France usually gets his pick of England and Germany, because E & G tend to
view each other as natural enemies down the road. Well, I have seen highly
successful EG alliances, just as I have seen good TA alliances. It's a
matter of finding the right kind of ally and making intelligent agreements.
That's where Norway comes in. You are less likely to worry about our
future if I am clearly working in the south and heading for the
Mediterranean. If you had Norway, and all of Scandinavia for that matter,
then we have an excellent separation of forces. Yes, I expect to take
Norway in year one, but it can be handed over as soon as we are successful
and I have compensation elsewhere. Of course this means that, whether
Italy does or does not join in on the kill, he would likely be a next
target.
Please get back to me soon, for I will, of course, write France and be as
friendly as I can. I am not so naïve as to think that I should put all my
powder in one canoe. But you have my first offer and my first letter!
May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to all
To: diplomats of Europe
From: Ivy Wingo
My nom de guerre, "Ivy Wingo" may be odd in that it has nothing to do with
war or diplomacy or politics. However, I like its somewhat romantic ring,
suggestive, perhaps, of characteristics of my true persona: honesty, honor,
harmlessness, faithfulness, integrity, loyalty, and innocence.
Let's have a wee contest. An actual, tangible, prize awaits the first
person to identify the real Ivy Wingo. Who is/was he? You are on your
honor (yes, honor!) not to consult any references whatsoever. Either you
know of Ivy Wingo or you don't. Surely, someone out there must be familiar
with him.
Remember, a real prize awaits the first to tell me who I am. Offer expires
if I expire.
Message from Master to all
Okay, I just posted this to r.g.d:
Observers to this game can't comment on the game on USIN, but members
of 'vgfp_titleist' on yahoogroups.com can kibbitz all they like -- the
players are the only ones who won't be permitted to join the mailing
list. So if you'd like to discuss the game with others, join that
mailing list.
I should have included the list of participants (all JDPR's referenced
are as of March 7, which sucks, but is still relevant. They don't
include the semi-final results and are thus likely to be even higher
than listed):
Allen Schweinsberg: his 1716 JDPR rating is ninth among active players.
He's played 14 games on record, with victories in 'highland' and
'pinecone' on USEF, 'samband' on TWUT, and 'vgfp0005' on USIN in the
first round of the tournament, as well as five draws. Focuses largely
on full-press games and was ranked #6 on that list at the end of 2000.
Eric Hunter: 1535 JDPR, rank #23. Three full-game and one partial-game
press solos ('juteland' on USWA, 'eden' on USIN, 'unortho1' on
USBR, and 'rachel' on USIN), along with 11 draws, including a 2WD in
'vgfp0001' in the first round. Plays all types of press; was #19 on
the YE2000 full-press list.
Jeff Stephens: 1379 JDPR, ranked in the top 100. 54 official games
played, mostly full press, dating back to 1995. Three full solos and two
partials ('dilsey3' and 'mudcats' on USWI, 'samakama' on USEF, 'adv1'
on USIN, and 'exp2' on USEF), as well as 23 draws -- including a 2WD
in 'vgfp0012' on USVG and a 3WD in 'vgfp0006' on USIN in the first round.
#28 on the YE2000 full-press list.
Ken Lofgren: 1714 JDPR, #10 amongst active players and on YE2000
full-press list. 58 official games played, with 4 victories ('rubicon'
on USEF, 'test0' on USCA, 'tech4' and 'squash' on USEF) in games with
press, along with many draws, including a 3WD in 'vgfp0014' on USVG.
Mixes no-press tournaments and variants in with a steady diet of
full-press games.
Randy Hudson: 1733 JDPR, ranked #8. 77 games played, primarily no-press
and real-time, with lots of variants thrown in as well. Full-press
victories in 'flyer' and 'burnoff' on USEF, as well as the first round
game 'vgfp0009' on USVG and four no-press games. Only two career losses
in full-press game starts.
Rich Olver: 1271 JDPR. The underdog. :-) Normally, that rating is
one of the top one or two in a game, but not here. Played 34 games,
mostly no-press in recent years. Full-press wins in 'winooski' on USIN,
'vergenne' on USEF, and a 2WD in 'vgfp0008' on USVG in the first round.
JDPR peaked at 1471, before the 1999 and 2000 Vermont Group no-press
tournaments (which didn't go so well).
Roger Yonkoski: 1818 JDPR, #4 amongst active players. Also ranked #3
on YE2000 full-press list with 1825 rating. 25 games played, with
full-press solos in 'primary' on USEF, 'braves' on USNM, 'pride' on
USCA, 'horse' on USWI, 'truth' and 'abby' on USEF, plus a dozen or more
draws. 2WD in 'vgfp0013' in the first round. His loss in 'vgfp0004'
was his first loss, ever, in a full-press game he started. The favorite.
The average JDPR of the players in this game will be calculated at
then end of the game (that's the measurement point for all games).
Given that these players' successes in the second round (not to be
revealed until the final is finished), this is likely to be the
highest rated game in Judge history.
Doug
Message [from England] to all
What is most amazing about the list of players are the missing names.
Where is Ron Poet, #1 in the March ratings and #2 in this tournament after
the preliminary games? Where is Karlis Povisils, former #1 in the world,
currently #2, and #1 in this tournament after the preliminaries? Where is
Michael Andresen, currently #6 in the March ratings, and #3 in this
tournament after the preliminaries?
Arguably, the three best players going into the semifinal round did not
survive.
This is a most dangerous world. Get me out of here!
[Perhaps Rich Olver is the real favorite.]
Message from Russia to all
(St. Petersburg, Russia, Dec. 1900)
"St.
Petersburg Pravda"
"A New Century, A New
Russia, and a New Europe"
In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II, the
Czar-Liberator, outlined his ideas regarding Russia in the 20th Century.
Here is the text of his speech.
With the ever increasing rate of industrialization in Russia and the
rest Europe, it has become clear that some manner of continental control is
necessary to ensure worker safety, to increase worker salaries, and to allow
their involvement in production decisions, in order to increase worker
satisfaction. Doing so will increase both productivity and profits.
Continental control of production centres will also increase profit and
productivity through the application of economies of scale, and make sure
that the natural resources needed for maintaining these newly achieved
levels of production can be cheaply and efficiently obtained. I, therefore,
propose the formation of a cooperative council to implement and oversee the
achievement of this European Economic Union, and lay out the following
proposed declaration of principles for the EEU.
Declaration of Principles
The fundamental tenets of the EEU movement are that more centralized control
of Production Centers will result in increased productivity and profits.
Secondly, worker unionization will improve safety, worker involvement in
production decisions, worker salaries, and worker satisfaction, and
therefore also increase productivity, thus a more efficient and profitable
economy will develop.
1) The 34 major Production Centers in Europe must be controlled by EEU
Member states.
2) Workers in Europe, both Agricultural, and Manufacturing, must be
Unionized.
3) Worker Unions and Management must negotiate equitable contracts that
protect worker safety, encourage worker innovation, and improve
productivity, and therefore improve management profits, and worker salaries.
4) If Management and Unions cannot agree on a Contract, they will submit to
the decision of the EEU Board of Arbitration.
5) The EEU will not interfere in the internal political, and social, affairs
of its member states.
6) All EEU member states will come to the aid of another member state, if
any member state is threatened by an outside state.
7) Conflicts between member states will be resolved through negotiation, not
the use of force.
8) Overall economic goals and policies will be set by the Union House, which
will have per capita representation from each union, and the Management
House, which will have a representative from each production area that must
negotiate with a union.
9) This overall economic policy will be subject to review by the EEU
Assembly, (a member from each EEU state), and final approval by the three
member Executive Council (Russia, and two members, yet to be determined.)
. These guiding principles are not yet set in stone, and are subject to
amendment by the Executive Council once it is formed, and I am more than
willing to consider the concerns of prospective members of the EEU. Rulers
of Europe, I look forward to speaking with each of you, and I hope to
establish close working relationships with those of you who see the
advantages that the EEU represents for our nations, our workers, and the
world.
Message from England to all
>In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II, the
>Czar-Liberator, outlined his ideas regarding Russia in the 20th Century.
>Here is the text of his speech.
>
> With the ever increasing rate of industrialization in Russia and the
>rest Europe, it has become clear that some manner of continental control is
>necessary to ensure worker safety,
blah, blah, blah ...
>Declaration of Principles
blah, blah, blah ...
Just conquer the world and get on with it, man. 8-)
Ivy Wingo
Message from Russia to all
> Broadcast message from England in 'titleist':
>
> >In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II,
>
> blah, blah, blah ...
>
> >Declaration of Principles
>
> blah, blah, blah ...
>
> Just conquer the world and get on with it, man. 8-)
Well, I could have given the standard, "I welcome your ambassadors, and
hope we can all be friends." speech, but I didn't figure anyone would buy
that, either. ;-) I do apologize for the length of my opening broadcast
though. I neglected to write it ahead of time, so it was rather
long-winded.
Nicky.
Message from England to all
Nicky,
> Well, I could have given the standard, "I welcome your ambassadors, and
>hope we can all be friends." speech, but I didn't figure anyone would buy
>that, either. ;-) I do apologize for the length of my opening broadcast
>though.
Heavens, I hope I didn't suggest the need for an apology. With my 20th
Century hindsight, I tend to suspect that Russians are long on the pen, but
put their faith in the sword. Actually I like the "I hope we all can be
friends" approach, at least afterwards. When this is all over, perhaps we
can drink a toast to friendship. If the drinks are contaminated with a wee
drop of blood, well, what's a little blood between friends?
Ivy
Message from Russia to Germany
> Broadcast message from Germany in 'titleist':
>
> Hear Ye. Hear Ye. The Great Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
> Frederick XXXIV extends his well wishes and salutations to all the
> other noble rulers of Europe. Emissaries of the higher order are on
> their way to your capitals. They bear gifts of great value and mystery.
> Please receive them with kindness and wisdom.
Emperor Frederick,
Good to hear from you, and I await your emmisary. England has indicated
a willingness to occupy Norway with a Fleet, so I hope that we can come to
an understanding regarding Sweden, which will allow me to focus on the
silent south, and you on the wild west. Fleet Kiel -> Holland allows you a
supported attack on Belgium in the Fall of 1901, while
bouncing me out of Sweden gains you little beyond the appreciation of my
southern opponent. What do you think?
Czar Nicholas II
Message from Italy to all
The great state of Italy welcomes all participants. We look forward to
discussing the future of Europe with all of you. blah, blah, friends, blah,
blah, blood, blah, blah, blah....
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto Benigni
ps: We are currently celebrating the American holiday known as the 4th of
July and are a bit busy with barbeques and sparklers and fireworks.
Tomorrow morning (Thurs), I will send more detailed press privately.
Message from Germany to England
Sir Wingo:
If you could be so kind as to excuse this very brief note. It's a bit
busy here with the Independence Day celebrations. (Independence from
England, hmmm. Just kidding)
I've read your press, and I was very gratified that you noticed that
France probably had his pick of powers. He could be quite an opponent.
I shall return a proper press with a day.
Freddy
Message from Austria to Germany
To all who see these presents, Greetings!
Know ye that, reposing special trust and confidence in the fidelities
and abilities of Gina Hapsburg Schmidt, we do appoint her our ambassador
to your nation, in plenipotentiary.
We hope her service will serve to further enhance communication and
cooperation between our nations.
Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Turkey to all
The Sultanate of Turkey sends its warmest regards to our fellow leaders.
The Sultan himself has been imprisoned, ah, I mean, is temporarily
indisposed, and I now represent the armed forces of Turkey. We have sent
our spies, ah, that is, envoys and diplomats, throughout Europe. We look
forward to penetrating the defenses, that is to say, building on the mutual
security of our fellow Powers. We look forward to a lively dialogue while
the peasants beat their plowshares into swords.
Sincerely,
Ali Baba
Message from France to Germany
Emperor Frederick:
I trust that you had a nice holiday. I hope to hear from
you soon. I know that I laid a lot of topics on you and
I hope that you did not faint from dealing with all of
them. The entire analogies between the East and West
interests me and it would seem that Germany would be the
one that would feel the most, therefore I attempted to
discuss them with you.
Have you heard much from Russia, England, or Italy. I
have heard sparingly from each, but England the most.
Perhaps he was the most available. But I guess that it
makes the most sense that the three of us would
concentrate our discussions on each other.
If I do not respond to you on Friday and Saturday, it is
because I will be our Hiking in the Alps. Do not worry,
I will not be spying on Germany. I play to stay near
Switzerland. I may take a peak towards Italy, but let's
keep that between the two of us.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to England
Please excuse my poor timing, but I won't be able to discuss the game
again tonight. It's past my bedtime, and I have many more emails to
answer. I picked next weekend as the perfect time to take 73 of my
closest friends to a getaway weekend. There were 50 unread emails
backed up tonight. Who says computers are time savers. Bah Humbug.
Frederick
Message from Germany to France
Please excuse my poor timing, but I won't be able to discuss the game
again tonight. It's past my bedtime, and I have many more emails to
answer. I picked next weekend as the perfect time to take 73 of my
closest friends to a getaway weekend. There were 50 unread emails
backed up tonight. Who says computers are time savers. Bah Humbug.
Have a good time on your hikes. That's some pretty big territory
you'll be covering.
We have a week to discuss our opening moves, and I'm patient. (Or is
it I'm a patient)
Frederick
Message from Germany to Russia
Please excuse my poor timing, but I won't be able to discuss the game
tonight. It's past my bedtime, and I have many more emails to answer.
I picked next weekend as the perfect time to take 73 of my closest
friends to a getaway weekend. There were 50 unread emails backed up
tonight. Who says computers are time savers. Bah Humbug.
You're quite right in that we need to talk about Sweden. Time after
time Germany bounces Russia out of there. I would like to look at other
options. In particular, if I don't bounce you there, what commitments
can you make that you won't use that build against me. Or better yet,
what should our joint action be?
Frederick
Message from Germany to Austria
Please excuse my poor timing, but I won't be able to discuss the game
again tonight. It's past my bedtime, and I have many more emails to
answer. I picked next weekend as the perfect time to take 73 of my
closest friends to a getaway weekend. There were 50 unread emails
backed up tonight. Who says computers are time savers. Bah Humbug.
Frederick
Message from Russia to Germany
Frederick,
> Message from Germany to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> You're quite right in that we need to talk about Sweden. I would like
> to look at other options. In particular, if I don't bounce you there,
> what commitments can you make that you won't use that build against
> me. Or better yet, what should our joint action be?
Alliances are, of course, still up in the air at this point, but given
the
frequency with which England and France are writing, and the quality
of their correspondence, I am already concerned about an EF
"reverse-Juggernaut" rolling eastward, so, at this point, I am
pro-German as a matter of self-defense. 8-) Obviously, an agreement
about Sweden would reinforce that inclination. While conventional
wisdom suggests that Germany and Russia are destined to come into
conflict, there are actually a number of stalemate lines that would make
that both unnecessary and unproductive.
As a devout Orthodox Christian, my dislike of witches suggests a
possibility for cooperation between us, but Ivy Wingo has been
surprisingly accommodating (offering to occupy Norway with a Fleet
even before I had a chance to write to him), so if you decide that your
best hope lies in attacking France, I can provide you with a rear-guard
to discourage English stabs.
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from France to Austria, England, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Turkey
Mes Amis:
I shall be away the next two days. I will be hiking and
meditating in the French Alps. I hear that there is an
astrologer hermit in the Mountains and I aslo wish to
consult him on some things that I have read in the stars.
I am letting you know this for two reasons. The first is
that I do not want you to think that I am ignoring you if
I do not immediately return mail. The second is that I
am willing to consult the hermit on your behalf.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
It is with great pleasure that I announce the beginning
of the Tour de France. I will be at the official start
of the race tomorrow.
As it is such a national treasure and a point of pride
for France, I will endeavor to keep you informed of the
Progress.
I imagine that Germany will be pulling for Team Deustche
Telekom
England may wish to adopt the American USPS team, as they
share a common language.
Italy should choose one of the Italian Teams:
Fassa Bortolo
Lampre - Daikin
Mapei - Quick Step
I will choose a French team, say:
Festina
The remainder of you (Turkey, Austria, and Russia) can
choose one of:
*Rabobank from the Netherlands
*Domo - Farm Frites from Belgium
*CSC - World Online from Denmark
*O.N.C.E. from Spain
(first come first serve, send me your preferences in
order as I may not see them before the race begins)
Please let me know your choice. I will then award points
according to the following:
10 points for winning a stage
20 points for winning the Green or Polka Dot Jersey
50 Points for winning the race
Who ever gets the most points is the winner and wins the
following grande prize:
A date for their sister with the Dauphin.
(not to mention a great deal of bragging rights)
I hope that you will all participate. It will be fun, I
promise. Just imaging the fame you will receive as your
adopted team wins a stage. Power, Fame, Dates, they will
all be yours.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Germany
Frederick,
> Please excuse my poor timing, ...
Excused. I understand. We have lots of time.
You must know by now that it has become increasingly obvious that France,
as expected, has shown himself to be an individual of great danger, likely
a man of great power who wished to be ruler of that nation and got his
wish. There is a reason that he is France, and you and I are not.
Certainly, he has my ear, but I do fear him deeply, and I promise to listen
to you with care when you can engage in serious negotiations.
I await with patience.
In friendship,
Ivy Wingo
Message from Italy to all
It is with great pride that I make the team of Fassa Bortolo my Tour de
France selection.
Life is Beautiful - as is the ride to Paris
Roberto
Message from Italy to Germany
Haven't had the pleasure yet of talking to you. We are neighbors separated
by a single province so surely we would have some matters to discuss.
How are your negotiations going with England and France? Has Belgium been
resolved? And what about Sweden? Any worthwhile news there?
I was wondering if you'd have any interest in joining Austria and myself in
a Center Alliance. It's been my experience that if one of the three of us
falls to an enemy, then usually one of the other two is next to go and once
a corner power gets a foothold they are very difficult to contain. Even if
we cannot help each other per se gain centers, we should, at the very least,
be aware of each other defensive needs. What are your thoughts on this
matter?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Germany to all
I will adopt Team Deutsche Telekom and Jan Ullrich. Although my heart
will be with Lance again. We finally have live TV coverage here in
the US. On OLN (Outdoor life network) Finally there's a reason to pay
for cable TV.
Fred
> I imagine that Germany will be pulling for Team Deustche
> Telekom
Message from Russia to all
I'll take Rabobank since it starts with R. 8-)
Nicky.
Message [from Germany] to all
What can I say. Obviously I don't stand a chance. ;-)
My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
years. So my rating will probably sink even further.
I guess I'm just really bad at strategy.
> Rich Olver: 1271 JDPR. The underdog. :-) Normally, that rating is
> one of the top one or two in a game, but not here. Played 34 games,
> mostly no-press in recent years. Full-press wins in 'winooski' on USIN,
> 'vergenne' on USEF, and a 2WD in 'vgfp0008' on USVG in the first round.
> JDPR peaked at 1471, before the 1999 and 2000 Vermont Group no-press
> tournaments (which didn't go so well).
Message [from Russia] to all
> Broadcast message in 'titleist':
>
> My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
> years. So my rating will probably sink even further. I guess I'm just
> really bad at strategy.
No, that's not an accurate conclusion. My rating is pretty evenly
the result of my press ability and my strategy and tactics, but so far
I've lost four games in the 2001-VGNP. I did not lose because I
was outplayed, but because someone else did something stupid like
stabbing for a single Center, or failing to recognize that it was
necessary to form a "Stop the Leader" alliance, in spite of repeated
Convoys of his Armies to the Leader's capital. It doesn't matter how
well you play if the people near you do dumb things that hurt you and
help someone else.
Message [from Germany] to all
>
> > Broadcast message in 'titleist':
> >
> > My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
> > years. So my rating will probably sink even further. I guess I'm just
> > really bad at strategy.
>
> No, that's not an accurate conclusion. My rating is pretty evenly
> the result of my press ability and my strategy and tactics, but so far
> I've lost four games in the 2001-VGNP. I did not lose because I
> was outplayed, but because someone else did something stupid like
> stabbing for a single Center, or failing to recognize that it was
> necessary to form a "Stop the Leader" alliance, in spite of repeated
> Convoys of his Armies to the Leader's capital. It doesn't matter how
> well you play if the people near you do dumb things that hurt you and
> help someone else.
Oh don't get me started on my bad luck for neighbors. I swear this is
what happened one year. When I was Russia, Turkey opened to Armenia.
When I was Germany, England left himself WIDE open to France, and never
responded after being stabbed. When I was France, England made his 1st
build a fleet in Liverpool. When I was Austria, Italy opened to Trieste.
I will admit culpability though. I tend to trust people entirely too
much. In the NoPress tournaments there seems to be a lot of stabbing
going on just for the sake of the stab. I've never changed tactics to
match this. Guess I'm just too much of a nice guy. Note my two way
win. My partner didn't come through, so I guess it's ok to say that I
carried him over the finish line. I basically put a gun to his head and
said that he'll take the two way, my way. (Maybe I'm not that nice)
Message from Germany to England
Ivy Wingo seems to have been a Cincinnati Red who holds the record of
most errors by a catcher, probably because he played the most games. I
cheated and looked it up. Is that wrong? I haven't found any reference
for that Name in England. And I read English history as a hobby.
On to other topics.
I expect that we have lots of time to talk, before and after the first
move. Your moves are standard. You'll certainly go into the North Sea.
The only decision that you have is to go to the Channel or NWG. My
choices are equally mundane. I could surprise everyone and go for
something like Tyrolia or Prussia, but I'll bet that nobody does
anything out of the ordinary this first move.
This leaves us free to talk of greater ideals.
For instance. In most games everyone starts out looking for the win,
then they settle for a draw if need be. The number of units not being
important in that draw. That's not the case here. Every piece we can
get our hands on is very important. I doubt if anyone will be willing
to accept a draw except for the person with the most units. The win is
what we all want, nothing else will do.
I think all of this will make for a very deliberate game. I won't be
surprised to see alliances shift move after move. Whoa onto the power
which gains a lead. Everyone will jump on him. Could this turn into a
7 way draw? Naw, but I'll be surprised if we're done by Christmas.
Looking closer to home. You're completely correct in your initial
comments. France usually does have his choice of E or G as an ally.
I'll go further and say that it's usually England. Then the game turns
on whether France can get into the Irish Sea or not. If he goes for it
he's usually successful.
England and Germany usually try to talk France into going after Italy.
But France doesn't usually do that, at least initially.
Looking at our France. He certainly does have a silver tongue. You
have to like the guy. I'll bet that whoever he's holding the knife
behind his back for, won't even mind when he slips it in. Therefore, I
share your concerns that this France will be especially dangerous. I
believe that it'll be in our mutual interests to take him out. How to
go about that could be our topic of discussion for awhile. I like your
idea of England going south and Germany going NE. I'm glad you didn't
try to blow smoke up me bum by presenting a plan where you'd be in
Scandinavia and France. Pincher around my territory are never the basis
of a strong alliance.
I've been running at the fingers here. I'll send another note out soon
covering the theoretical goals of England and Germany.
Fred.
Message from Germany to France
How was the Prologue of the TDF? I watched live on TV. I'm a road
biker myself, with over 1200 miles traveled already this year. If you
don't hear from me, perhaps it'll be because I'm slipping the miles by
somewhere. My man came in 4th. I was hoping for more. 2 out of the
top 5 being Frenchmen, you must be proud.
Continuing our discussion of AT vs EG parallels.
I'd have to say that the reason that EG is much more common than AT is
the narrow path that Turkey has to get out. He has to go through the
Ionian and Aegean, or through Sevastopol. All of these bump up against
'normal' Austrian territory. While if England goes south or east, he can
operate far from the German homeland. Thus the threat is reduced in that
situation.
The similarity is the pincher problem you mention. Austria is
reluctant to have Turkey going west AND north. Just as any German of
moderate intelligence will work long and hard to make sure that England
doesn't go South AND East. I can say that in this game if England tries
to go into Scandinavia AND go against you, I will attack him on one of
those fronts. I fully realize that if he gets a favorable position like
that, I'm a goner.
Speaking theoretically, how do you see alliances working in this
game? My belief is that there will be no long term alliances. I
wouldn't be surprised to see alliances form and break with every turn.
In a typical game at least one strong alliance will form at the
beginning of the game. Lets say EF for the sake of argument. England
goes west, France heads SE. If they stay partners, they steamroll the
opposition. But what usually happens is that one of the partners gets
lucky and faces easier opposition. This partner takes a lead in unit
count. That's ok in most games, as draw is as good as a win in a lot of
situations. Sometimes it's more rewarding to NOT go for the stab. As
one can then feel that he's not a total dick. In this game it'll be
different. There is no tomorrow. I don't see anyone allowing a
'partner' to get a lead. Whoa onto anyone who gets a lead in this
game. The wolfs will eat him up. I guess I'm saying that I don't see
that a conventional alliance will work. Suppose I build three in the
first year. Wouldn't you and England immediately take me down? I would
expect it. Same goes for you, if you were to build three, I'd have to
seriously talk to England about containing any further French expansion.
I suppose an alliance could be made where two powers promise to build
equally up to a certain number. Say 10. Then it's every man for himself.
Frederick
Message from Germany to Russia
Nicky:
How did you find out that there is a great deal of communication
between E and F? Your intelligence network must be vastly superior to
my own. Although I'll admit that I suspected as much (EF burning up the
Internet). But then that would be normal. My intentions is to be
minimal with my communications to these powers. Enough to let them know
that I'm around, but not enough to inadvertently contradict myself. Or
let them in on the secret that the Germans are a very obnoxious bunch.
;-)
As for Sweden, etc. I think I'll cover that with a broader brush in
this press. It's my opinion that for the German to win, he must get to
a corner. The SE corner is out of the question. That leaves the other
three. To get to one of the other three corners I have to fight
straight through either you, England, or France. The NE or NW corner
has been the favorite German target for most games. Both have
advantages and disadvantages. Russia is usually tied up in the south
with Austria and Turkey so that would make you a good target. However,
allying with Russia to kick england out of Norway usually weakens E
enough that an assault on the English island has a good chance for
success.
Let's continue our discussion through the first move. I don't see any
reason that we all can't keep talking right through that turn. I can't
imagine that someone is going to make a radical opening move.
I will say that I'll probably open to Denmark. That doesn't mean that
I intend to bounce you out of Sweden in the fall. I does mean that I
don't want to give England the opportunity to bounce me out of Denmark
in the fall. Opening to Holland does give me the opportunity to build
three the first year. But I'd rather not do that. I'd just as soon not
still my head up early on.
Freddy
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
Gentlemen:
I'm sure that you're tied up with communications with Turkey and
Russia. So I'll keep this short.
Remember the old song 'Stuck in the Middle with You'? It appears that
that's exactly what we are. We all know that we're on the inside
looking out. All the other powers have to come to the middle to collect
centers. We on the other hand have to expand outward. A much tougher
job.
If this were a earlier round game, and all we needed was a draw, I'd
propose that the three of us stick together til the endgame. Since the
object in this game isn't a draw, that won't really work. But we should
at least agree to keep our communications lines open, and not to
pressure each other for the first couple of moves.
For my part I'll say up front that I won't be going to Tyrolia this
turn. If either of you feel the need to move there I'd appreciate a
heads up on that move. Knowing that you're going in and why will
certainly go a long way toward relieving an urge to immediately attack
that unit.
Play on
Frederick MLXXXVII
Message from Germany to Italy
Roberto:
Get off that chair, go and get your Oscar. You're one happy guy,
aren't you.
Whoops, I didn't read your press about the Center Alliance, before
sending you that note about GAI. Obviously I agree.
We do have one other source of discussion. Obviously France. Nothing
is resolved with respect to Belgium yet. In fact nobody's even brought
up the subject. Yet. It's mostly been a lot of happy talk, England
proposing that we attack France, France proposing that we attack
England. I think that they ought to attack each other and leave me
alone. The usual opening game press.
England makes an interesting argument that I had already thought of.
That our France is probably the favorite and #1 seed. While the
'underdog' and the 8th seed are probably in GAI somewhere. IE the
best player is sitting with the most powerful country. France. It
does bear serious consideration.
I'd suggest that Italy head west, and if you were to do this I'd
certainly pledge my support. But I realize that Italian designs are
rarely to immediately turn toward France. Even after the 1st build. Too
many other problems in Turkey to take care of. Plus England and Germany
usually tie up France enough that he's too busy to swing south.
If I were in your shoes I'd build a good talking relationship with
Germany, so you can be aware if France/England build a juggernaut, and
France heads south. Then I'd work with Austria to take out Turkey.
Keeping an eye to the west.
I'll agree to be your spy at any time. In exchange there's not really
much that I can ask for. Certainly any intelligence that you can pass
along to me will be helpful. But I doubt if E or F will give you real
insight. I'd love to see an Italian army in Piedmont. I can't ask for
that though, as I realize that that would compromise any agreement that
you have with France. And there's no sense in tugging on Superman's
cape.
I will add a further thought though. If Italy is to win the game,
you'll have to get a fleet into the Atlantic. There is not better way
to do that than to ally with Germany and England early, and partition
France. Get yourself past that stalemate point early on, and your
chances of getting the win go up.
Frederick LXXIV
Message from Germany to Turkey
Ali:
How is it in the southern climes? It's HOT here. HOT, HOT, HOT.
I thought it would be prudent to open a line of communication between
us. It's been my experience that I get along the best with the powers
who are farthest from me. I can't imagine why that is. Ha.
Anyway, I look forward to discussing issues, ideology, and tactics with
you as the game rolls on. I doubt that discussing our mutual neighbors
will do much good. They're not about to tell me anything about what
their intentions are toward you. Although Russia could be a subject
that we discuss the most. As he'll certainly concentrate on the south or
the north. I hope he moves south, while you hope the opposite, I'm
sure. However, perhaps we'll have the opportunity to coordinate a
joint move against him at some future time.
Frederick MCMXXV
Message from Germany to Austria
Gina Hapsburg Schmidt - great name, great beer drinker. You've sent her
to the right place.
I'm running a little short on poetic prose at the moment. Spending too
much effort with England and France as you might suspect.
Let the Center Alliance go! Is my battle cry.
We have little to talk about yet except for strategy and tactics, and
maybe a little Russian conversation. Perhaps we'll meet soon on the
Russian Steppe. EF is my primary interest, but as the German I realize
that I need to get to a corner to win. The NE has always been the most
tempting.
If you conversations with Nicky don't go well, drop me a line, and
perhaps we can develop a plan of action.
Frederick MCVVII
Message [from Austria] to all
> England may wish to adopt the American USPS team, as they
> share a common language.
surely you must be joking
Message [from Austria] to all
> Note my two way
> win. My partner didn't come through, so I guess it's ok to say that I
> carried him over the finish line. I basically put a gun to his head and
> said that he'll take the two way, my way.
dale didnt make it to the finals just you your better
than him right
Message from England to Germany
Hi Fred!
>Ivy Wingo seems to have been a Cincinnati Red who holds the record of
>most errors by a catcher
Yup.
>I cheated and looked it up. Is that wrong?
Yup.
> And I read English history as a hobby.
Interesting, for I dabble in history a little. One of the greatest books I
ever read was Barbara Tuchman's "The Guns of August." Not exactly pure
English history, but England was certainly involved.
>I expect that we have lots of time to talk, before and after the first
>move. Your moves are standard. You'll certainly go into the North Sea.
>The only decision that you have is to go to the Channel or NWG.
Well, NWG is standard, but the Channel is very bold. However, the Channel
is my strong preference. Let me be very clear here: I will open to the
Channel, if you open to Burgundy.
>I could surprise everyone and go for
>something like Tyrolia or Prussia,
That could be fun, but it turns your back on both England and France.
That's just too inviting for England/France, and I suspect that in this
high stakes game everyone will be more conventional.
>This leaves us free to talk of greater ideals.
>For instance. In most games everyone starts out looking for the win,
>then they settle for a draw if need be. The number of units not being
>important in that draw. That's not the case here. Every piece we can
>get our hands on is very important. I doubt if anyone will be willing
>to accept a draw except for the person with the most units. The win is
>what we all want, nothing else will do.
> I think all of this will make for a very deliberate game. I won't be
>surprised to see alliances shift move after move. Whoa onto the power
>which gains a lead. Everyone will jump on him.
Very, very interesting. You are the first person to discuss the
implications of Doug's stipulation in which the person with the most units
in a draw becomes the grand champion. This makes any endgame very
unstable, and a solo more likely.
I've thought hard about this and how it should affect long range strategy.
Here is my conclusion. It is a mistake to alter what has proven to be
successful strategy in the past. Find a partner and stick together. Stick
together when others are falling apart. Talk to members of the alliance on
the other side of the board and get them to split apart instead.
Near the end of the game, if I get careless and my partner stabs me for the
win, then that's fine. That's what I would do to you if it could get me 18
centers. So that's what I want. I want to be part of a team that is says
together while the number of players is whittled down one by one.
What won't work though is a stab that gets me from 10 to 12 or from 12 to
14, etc. Because, as you have observed, the other two or three players
will then just chop me back down again. It won't do to just get ahead, if
it falls short of victory. Better to grow slowly and evenly and remain at
the same size as others as long as possible.
> Looking closer to home. You're completely correct in your initial
>comments. France usually does have his choice of E or G as an ally.
>I'll go further and say that it's usually England.
That's what I am trying to avoid. Giving France, a terrific player in this
instance, a free ride.
> Looking at our France. He certainly does have a silver tongue. You
>have to like the guy. I'll bet that whoever he's holding the knife
>behind his back for, won't even mind when he slips it in. Therefore, I
>share your concerns that this France will be especially dangerous. I
>believe that it'll be in our mutual interests to take him out.
Yes, I like him. But I'd like his persona dead. Afterwards, I am sure the
master behind the puppet will congratulate us. He will probably be someone
who has butchered you or me or both of us in the past.
>How to
>go about that could be our topic of discussion for awhile. I like your
>idea of England going south and Germany going NE. I'm glad you didn't
>try to blow smoke up me bum by presenting a plan where you'd be in
>Scandinavia and France. Pincher around my territory are never the basis
>of a strong alliance.
Yeah, this is why France usually gets his choice of allies. I am very
serious about me pulling out of Norway and pushing far to the south. You
can have Norway when I get compensation down there. For example, we might
first put you in Belgium but transfer it to me when you take Norway.
Whatever. Let's feel our way as we go. Sweden is also yours, but I
suggest that you let Russia sleep there in peace until France is no longer
a threat. We don't want Russia helping France.
It is possible that Italy could be part of an attack on France. That would
really finish off the Boar quite fast. Whether or not Italy joins in, I
prefer that he not get wind of my southern strategy. I have to go to the
Med if you and I are to remain friends.
I think we have something going here.
Ivy
Message from France to all
Well, that was an exciting opening to the First Stage of
the Tour de France. After opening ceremony, I was
distracted by an argument over whether the middleclass
truly has freedom. So I will reply on the following
excerpt from the offical royal coverage of the race:
Festina rider Christophe Moreau, winner of the
recent Dauphine Libere stage race, has stunned the
Tour de France by winning the prologue by an
outstanding three seconds. Defending champion
Lance Armstrong (USPS) finished the 8.2 kilometer
test just four seconds behind Moreau.
He went on to add that the Festina rider was helped when
a team mate grabbed a spoke from his wheel and poked
Lance Armstrong while he was making his move. I have
discounted this claim of course. It is not that I think
that there would be no stabbing going on, I think that
amounts to a minor fine. I just do not believe one can
remove spoke from a wheel at high speeds.
Well, with this first victory, my team Festina takes the
first points! Vivre la France! That does pose a dilema
however. If Festina wins, that means my sister wins a
date with my brother, the Dauphin. Well, I do not mind
punishing my brother like that, but my sister deserves
something better. Perhaps I can give the Dauphin too
much wine and send him off with the 90 year old chamber
maid who assists my sister.
Official Tally:
(note that I assigned teams to Austria and Turkey)
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 0 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 0 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
I will try to send more diplomacy related mail later
today after I do some mundane things like go hunting
(take a trip to the grocery store).
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to Germany
Freddy,
> How did you find out that there is a great deal of communication
> between E and F?
It is supposition on my part, but given that everyone has mentioned how
much press they are sending, it seems unlikely that they wouldn't be talking
to each other.
> As for Sweden, [...] for the German to win, he must get to
> a corner. Russia is usually tied up in the south with Austria and
> Turkey so that would make you a good target.
Of course, Germany attempting to reach St. Petersburg with England and
France still strong, invites them to visit Kiel and Munich...
> allying with Russia to kick england out of Norway usually weakens E
> enough that an assault on the English island has a good chance for
> success.
I'm willing to consider this, of course.
> I can't imagine that someone is going to make a radical opening move.
Radical? No. Aggressive? Possibly. I would not be surprised to see a
Fleet try for the English Channel, an Italian Army in Piedmont or Tyrolia, a
Turkish Army in Armenia, or French Armies in Burgundy and Picardy. (You
will not see a Russian Army in Silesia, however. That crosses the line from
agressive to foolish, in my opinion.)
> I will say that I'll probably open to Denmark. That doesn't mean that
> I intend to bounce you out of Sweden in the fall. It does mean that I
> don't want to give England the opportunity to bounce me out of Denmark
> in the fall.
By extension then, you shouldn't risk Den - Swe in the Fall, since
Den-Swe, Nth-Den, Bot-Bal, is even worse for you than getting bounced out of
Den in the Fall.
> Opening to Holland does give me the opportunity to build
> three the first year. But I'd rather not do that. I'd just as soon
> not stick my head up early on.
Understandable, but Kie-Hol also lets you support France or England into
Bel, and solidify an alliance. (Just a thought.) I will certainly attempt
to keep the lines of communication open throughout 1901, and beyond.
Nicky.
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
"A Slow Start for Team Robobank"
> Well, that was an exciting opening to the First Stage of the Tour de
France.
> Official Tally:
> Russia (Robobank): 0 points
It was learned today that the members of Team Robobank were delayed by
Union Steward V. I. Lenin, who was attempting to explain the benefits that
unionization would present to both bank workers and bicyclists. Union
Steward Lenin has been encouraged to attempt to unionize other teams before
the next stage, and to speak with Team Robobank only after the stage has
been completed.
Message from Germany to France
Keep the TDF accounts coming. I watched yesterday, and taped today's
race. I'll watch it tonight. Had to go do some riding myself. A
simple little 38 mile out and back. But it was that 10,000 ft elevation
gain that was the killer. (I could be exaggerating about that)
As an aside. Can we agree to stay out of Burgundy this turn? Or
perhaps bounce there?
Fred
Message from Germany to Russia
> > As for Sweden, [...] for the German to win, he must get to
> > a corner. Russia is usually tied up in the south with Austria and
> > Turkey so that would make you a good target.
>
> Of course, Germany attempting to reach St. Petersburg with England and
> France still strong, invites them to visit Kiel and Munich...
Tell me about it.
> > I can't imagine that someone is going to make a radical opening move.
>
> Radical? No. Aggressive? Possibly. I would not be surprised to see a
> Fleet try for the English Channel, an Italian Army in Piedmont or Tyrolia, a
> Turkish Army in Armenia, or French Armies in Burgundy and Picardy. (You
> will not see a Russian Army in Silesia, however. That crosses the line from
> agressive to foolish, in my opinion.)
Likewise I have no plans for going to Prussia or Silesia this turn.
Freddy
Message from Russia to Germany
Freddy,
> > You will not see a Russian Army in Silesia
> Likewise I have no plans for going to Prussia or Silesia this turn.
Would you care to formalize this understanding? Say, ...
"No Russian or German Unit will move, or attempt to move, to Bal, Pru, or
Sil in 1901, 1902 or 1903. Russia will not interfere with German occupation
of Denmark, nor will Germany interfere with Russian occupation of Sweden.
This DMZ can be extended in time and/or provinces through mutual agreement
in 1903."
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Germany to France
Just chock up those Telecom points. I must admit I forgot about Erik
Zabel.
Fred
Message from Germany to Russia
> Message from Russia to Germany in 'titleist':
>
> Freddy,
>
> > > You will not see a Russian Army in Silesia
> > Likewise I have no plans for going to Prussia or Silesia this turn.
>
> Would you care to formalize this understanding? Say, ...
> "No Russian or German Unit will move, or attempt to move, to Bal, Pru, or
> Sil in 1901, 1902 or 1903. Russia will not interfere with German occupation
> of Denmark, nor will Germany interfere with Russian occupation of Sweden.
> This DMZ can be extended in time and/or provinces through mutual agreement
> in 1903."
>
> Czar Nicholas II.
Actually, I don't put much stock in formal agreements. They're worth
about as much as they're written on.
I realize that I'm being coy here. But it's the start of the game and
we're feeling each other out, and getting to know one another.
I realize that many people play with game by looking for the opportunity
to stab someone. I rarely play that way. Although it's probably
inevitable that we'll all have to stab in the endgame. But because so
many people are liars, I like to play it loose through the early game,
and see who does what they say. Or who will say what they're going to
do. In this case we're both stated a move that we're not going to
make. Let's see if we really do that. Next turn, we'll see again.
Perhaps we can exchange something besides what we're not going to do.
Frederick MCMIIIII
Message from Russia to Germany
Freddy,
> Actually, I don't put much stock in formal agreements.
That's unfortunate.
> it's the start of the game and we're feeling each other
> out, and getting to know one another.
Yes, and it seems that you are steadfastly refusing to commit on the
smallest issues. I find that troubling, so I will directly address the
question. Will you allow my Fleet to assume control of Sweden in F1901, or
will you oppose that action? If you are opposed, what can I do to change
your mind? If you are undecided, what can I do to encourage you to decide
in my favor?
> because so many people are liars, I like to play it loose through the
early game,
> and see who does what they say. Or who will say what they're going to do.
Perhaps I'm too honest, but at this level I expect that people will tell
as much of the truth as possible, and lie only when neccessary to achieve a
specific objective. Since it does not make sense for Germany and Russia to
come into conflict in the opening, we have no reason to lie to one another,
and every reason to cooperate where possible.
> In this case we're both stated a move that we're not going to
> make. Let's see if we really do that. Next turn, we'll see again.
> Perhaps we can exchange something besides what we're not going to do.
To be successful, I think we have to look beyond the current turn. If
you think you might need my assistance against England, then Mos-StP would
be appropriate this Spring. If you believe you are more likely to come into
conflict with France, then Mos-StP would be counter-productive.
Nicky.
Message from Germany to Russia
I haven't decided whether to bounce you out of Sweden in the fall yet.
(And I haven't given it a lot of thought yet. My concern is EF)
Primarily because you didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with
that build if you got it. So you see we're both playing this the
same way. Neither of us wants to give away our hands yet, or commit to
something which will look bad in the future.
For your part I imagine that you don't really want to say where you'll
put that build because of your ongoing negotiations in the south. If
they bear fruit, you won't need a build down there, and you can begin to
think about Norway. (It's possible that MOS - STP, but I'd have to say
highly unlikely. It leaves you too open on your southern border. If
Turkey opens to Armenia you'll be in a heap of trouble.)
Frederick
Message from France to Germany
Emperor Frederick:
I want to answer your questions related to strategy and
territories immediately. I also really want to talk
about biking, but that will have to wait until the end
because the other topic is more important. I never want
to wait to long to answer a question from an important
neighbor and hopefully ally.
First, as for Burgundy - I am open to a bounce. I just
want to make certain that we keep our options open to
bounce England from Belgium and Russia from Sweden if we
so choose. I guess that the only way to accomplish that
is for me to move to Picardy and you to move to Denmark.
We can then order Marseilles and Munich to Burgundy. I
will put that as my default orders and wait while we
discuss things further.
Now to turn to your topics on alliances. I do see your
point why England and Germany can ally more than Turkey
and Austria. Although the successful AT alliance has the
same elements that you describe for an EG. Turkey can be
restricted to only one direction, North with armies, or
West with fleets. I suppose that Turkey is slightly more
boxed in; but I think that the analogy is closer than
most people realize. Perhaps there is something to do
with Italy that makes it different. Oh well, something
for me to ponder on alone. I will not bother you with it
no longer. I do truly appreciate your taking the time to
discuss it with me.
I did find your statement that long term alliances would
be unlikely, very interesting. I was thinking that it
would be nice to find a long term ally. But it will be
very hard to sustain it. Not only is there the issue of
one getting larger than the other. There is also the
fact that the remaining powers are smart enough to see
the strong alliance forming and band together to fight it
off. Perhaps in a game of changing alliances, it is
Italy that is the strongest country. For I have read
that it is to Italy's benefit to create such a game.
Thinking about your points on alliances is why I
suggested that Belgium remain neutral this first year.
If either one of us gets it, then we are dangerous and
will get turned on by the other and England. If we allow
England to have it, then he is really more powerful than
us because his natural defensive position gives him at
least a 1 unit leg up on us.
Now finally to biking. 38 miles! Wow! I am both
impressed and jealous. I am no longer in shape to easily
bike that far, nor could I find the time. Home, Family,
Diplomacy, Work, you know. But you are giving me more
incentive, beside my expanding gut, to find the time! I
really look forward to talking more about biking with
you, especially when the game ends.
-- Prince Boar
PS: Congratulations on the stage win. I think that
Telekom has a pretty good change at winning the Tour, or
at least winning you points. Zabel can win you some
stages, he may take the Green Jersey, and Jan may win
some stages or the entire thing. But like you, I will
cheer for Lance. I think read that some of the USPS team
members went over to Telekom this year?
At least you get OLN. I do not and must wait for the CBS
coverage. Looking at the times, it must be a cut down
version of the race. Oh well. I will have to take what
I can get. You may be better suited to give the updates,
but I happen to be playing France. :-)
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 1 Results:
With a perfectly timed sprint, German Sprinter Erik Zabel
wins the first Stage of the Tour de France. (Note that
yesterday's race was the Prologue.)
This gives 10 points to Germany and puts Zabel as the
favorite to win the Green Jersey (best sprinter).
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 10 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 0 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Christophe Moreau (FES) 5 hrs 4 min 35 secs
2. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :03 secs
3. Lance Armstrong (USPS) :04
5. Jan Ullrich (TEL) :07
6. Florent Brard (FES) :07
10. Joseba Beloki (ONC) :13
Message from Russia to Germany
>Message from Germany to Russia in 'titleist':
>I haven't decided whether to bounce you out of Sweden
>in the fall yet. Primarily because you didn't answer
>my question as to what you'd do with that build if
>you got it.
Ah, ok, fair enough. It's difficult to predict
which Centers will be open for builds, since I haven't
decided on an Opening, but if you want help against
England, I'm willing to use the Swedish supplies to build
F StP/NC, (or A StP, if you prefer), or build in Mos/Sev,
and head south, if you don't want the help, or are allied
with England against France.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from England to all
To: diplomats far and wide.
From: Ivy Wingo
The identify Ivy Wingo contest is over. Amazingly, the winner prefers to
remain anonymous! Since I don't yet want to antagonize any of our good
fellows, I must respect this shy man's request. However, if he ever
performs a dasterdly deed I shall expose him without remorse.
Ivy Wingo was a catcher for the St. Louis Cardinals and Cincinnati Reds. I
chose the name only because I was fond of its wacky sound. It was tempting
to go with the even wackier Van Lingle Mungo, but that player has already
been celebrated in song.
Now for the prize. The prize is Belgium. The winner, although
unidentified, is free to travel to Belgium to make his claim. He may wish
travel afloat, but a land route would be quicker. I am sure that my good
friends Prince Boar and/or Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request.
What's this I hear? I can't believe my ears. "We don't need no stinkin'
visas!"
Well, what ever happened to civility? And I thought I was playing with
gentlemen. It is indeed best that this rogue not be known by name. But
beware the snake who crawls into Belgium.
Message from Italy to Germany
I owe you a message but it has been a hectic day at work today. I hope to
be able to send something out tomorrow. Didn't want you thinking I was
ignoring you.
Roberto
Message from France to all
Sorry, this will be brief. I still need to catch up on
my other mail.
Tour de France Stage 2 Results:
After riding in a break of 16 for the last 20 kilometers
Rabobank rider Marc Wauters took the victory in Stage 2
of the 2001 Tour de France today. The expected contenders
for the overall victory--Moreau, defending champion Lance
Armstrong and Jan Ullrich--all survived the day without
incident.
This gives 10 points to Russia and puts Wauters in the
Yellow Jersey. Can he hold on for the Tour de France
victory? Time will tell.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 10 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Marc Wauters (RAB) 9 hours 40 minutes 17 seconds
3. Servais Knaven (DFF) @ :27
4. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :27
9. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :30
11. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :31
12. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :34
13. Florent Brard (FES) @ :34
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
>I am sure that my good friends Prince Boar and/or
>Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request
I would gladly issue Visas for the winner to travel to
Belgium. Simply pass through Munich and Ruhr and
everything will be just fine.
> Go Team O.N.C.E!
>Doug
That's the spirit!
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to Italy
Perish the thought. I'm taking 74 of my best friends on a weekend
getaway this weekend. I'm literally swamped myself. That's what you
get when you're the President of a social club.
Fred
> Message from Italy to Germany in 'titleist':
>
> I owe you a message but it has been a hectic day at work today. I hope to
> be able to send something out tomorrow. Didn't want you thinking I was
> ignoring you.
>
> Roberto
Message from Russia to all
> Rabobank rider Marc Wauters took the victory in Stage 2
> of the 2001 Tour de France today. This gives 10 points
> to Russia and puts Wauters in the Yellow Jersey. Can he
> hold on for the Tour de France victory? Time will tell.
Marc, Marc, he's our man, if he can't do it, well then
Lance can! (The United States Postal Service is unionized,
after all.)
V. I. Lenin,
European Union Steward for Russia.
Message from France to Germany
Emperor Frederick:
Have you had time to further ponder our opening moves? I
have my default moves in for our bounce in Burgundy. But
I definitely do not want to move to Burgundy, if you are
not ordering Munich there.
We should also being to talk about longer term plans. I
thank you for indulging me in discussions about alliances
and such. But it is obvious that there will be no
Western Triple Alliance. Therefore two of us will team
up on the third. I certainly want to avoid being the
third. I image that you feel the same way.
Based on our discussions on alliances, you must suspect
that I wish to convince you that England is a more
dangerous choice for you than France. France has a lot
to offer you. After England, we have different avenues
of expansions on opposite sides of the board (you Russia,
me Italy). France is also loyal and willing to strive to
avoid the pitfalls where one of us feels we must stab the
other. We have enough centers between us that we can
trade them back and forth to keep our alliance even,
hence not have one get nervous about the other.
I will also always discussion any options and strive to
make sure that we are both comfortable with alliance and
our security. I will not ignore your questions,
especially when they are difficult ones.
Finally, I will provide to you the bike from the winner
of the Tour de France, autographed by the ride himself!
Let's at least talk about the possibilities and not just
assume that the other knows we are interest.
-- Prince Boar
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Negotiations Diploman, things seem to heating up, but so far the
negotiations have been slow.
DM> Yes, Boy Gambit, things have been a bit slow.
BG> But one guy rambles on about unions, another goes on and on about a bike
race, and a third says nothing but blahs. Don't they know there is a game of
Diplomacy going on?
DM> Well, relationships take time to build. Besides, some people insist on
taking all the time allotted.
BG> Well, myself and the other observers are falling asleep here. I wish that
they would just get on with it.
DM> Be patient Boy Gambit. You know that we must be ever vigilant to seek out
the betrayer, the liar, the stabber and bring them to justice. That is our
role.
BG>ZZZZZZZzzzzz
Message from Turkey to all
My fellow conspirators,
I have been having ISP problems that have prevented me from replying to
press, and in some cases prevented me from receiving them. I am using
alternate methods to get this message through. The scoundrels that formerly
provided these so-called "services" have been executed and replaced, and our
communications centre will be in full operating status by this evening. If
you have sent anything to me in the last few days, please re-send.
Apologies for this untimely inconvenience.
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Germany
My dearest Frederick,
Sorry to hear of your unseasonable weather in the Reichland. It has been no
less unbearable down here, made more unpleasant by my technical
difficulties, which have disrupted not only my communications but the air
conditioning as well. Our technicians are blaming the whole mess on
inferior Russian workmanship.
I, too, look forward to many interesting and enlightening conversations as
we go forward. As you say, Russia is a likely topic of conversation. As
yet, he has given me no real indication of his intentions. Austria, for his
part, proposed immediate anti-Russian efforts, but the issue of what Italy
will do while this goes on is unresolved.
I am attempting to open fairly neutrally, and not really commit until the
first year shakes out. At this point I can honestly say I have not yet
chosen a particular ally over the others. This may change if ongoing
diplomacy develops strongly, of course, but essentially I'm not eager to
commit in move one. Of course, if England were to be involved in an
anti-Russian action, I'd be eager to learn of it. What can you tell me of
the English?
Other than that, I have little to report. However, I agree with your
premise that it's good to make friends with the folks just the other side of
your immediate neighbors. If you and I both survive the initial shake-out,
we would both be well-served by having a good working relationship. I look
forward to hearing your thoughts.
Sincerely,
Ali Baba
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 3 Results:
Erik Zabel (Telekom) proved again
why he's been the winner of the
Tour's green jersey for best
sprinter five times as he blew
through an uphill sprint at the end
of today's stage Seen at
the front of the race in the late
going were defending Tour champ
Lance Armstrong (USPS), and
hopefuls Jan Ullrich (Telekom) and
Christophe Moreau.
I thought that the TdF was a long haul race and not one
for sprinters. But it looks like a sprinter is stealing
the show for now. Can Zabel avoid the early leader
syndrom and not have all the other powers conspiring to
beat him down! Emperor Frederick best watch out. This
may work against him :-)
This gives 10 more points to Germany and likely sets him
up for 20 more points for the Green Jersey.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.)14-hours 15-minutes 44-seconds
2. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :17-seconds
5. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :20
7. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :21
8. Erik Zabel (TEL) @ :23
9. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :24
10. Florent Brard (FES) @ :24
12. Joseba Beloki (ONC) @ :30
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Germany
Emperor Frederick:
I was hoping for 38 Km, a step down from your 38 mi, but
quite a distance for me. My route only took me 28.5 Km.
It was long enough, my family was organizing a search
party to go look for me. I did not go as fast as I
liked, but had enough for a couple sprints at the end.
It is always good to zoom past the neighbors, it makes
them think that you are better than you are. :-)
I guess that you are out biking as I have not heard from
you. Enjoy yourself. Hmm, I hope that you are not too
shocked by my message to write, or perhaps you are
spending all your time negotiating my demise with
England. Must...Control...The...Paranoia! :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to all
Major thunderstorm fried my modem. The replacement is working, finally,
but it's late, and I'm annoyed, so I'll try to contact everyone tomorrow.
Russia.
Message from Germany to all
It's that one two punch. Or is that a one-a and a two-a?
Zabel will win more stages and the green jersey. In the mountains we
have Ullrich. Can Team Telekom be stopped? Time will tell.
> I thought that the TdF was a long haul race and not one
> for sprinters. But it looks like a sprinter is stealing
> the show for now. Can Zabel avoid the early leader
> syndrom and not have all the other powers conspiring to
> beat him down! Emperor Frederick best watch out. This
> may work against him :-)
>
> This gives 10 more points to Germany and likely sets him
> up for 20 more points for the Green Jersey.
Message from Germany to France
Sorry that I'm been slow on getting back to you. I've been watching
TDF on TV. Amazing stuff. Much more exciting than this game. I'll
make some serious proposals tomorrow.
(I'm also working on girlfriends. I'm enjoying the TDF more, but they
are softer.
Freddy
Message from Germany to England
Ivy
Sorry if I haven't responded to anything that you've said lately. (I
haven't read emails) I've been tied up watching Tour de France on TV.
It's captivating. A million people watched yesterday's stage in
person. Amazing.
I'll make some time for this game soon.
I'm also not sure that we all need to be creating a mountain of press
right now.
Freddy
Message from England to Germany
Freddy,
> I'll make some time for this game soon.
Good. There is one essential detail that we need to agree on. Do we take
the agressive route or a passive wait-and-see route?
I really prefer that we open with a bang and hit the Channel and Burgundy,
while encouraging Italy to go for Piedmont, but I don't wish to open to the
Channel if you prefer to wait.
So please respond soon with your feelings on this. I don't want France to
get off and running. If you say you want a more conservative, conventional
opening I will respect that and do likewise.
I still am talking to France (a lot; he is agressive and friendly), but you
are still my first choice for an ally.
Ivy Wingo
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 3 Results:
Official Report:
Former UCI #1 rider Laurent Jalabert (CSC), proved to be
too strong for breakaway partner Ludo Dierckxens (Lampre)
as he took the two-man sprint to win the 215-kilometer
fourth stage of the 2001 Tour de France from Huy to
Verdun.
Aussie Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) managed to keep his the
yellow leader's jersey that he won yesterday, despite a
number of serious breakaways thoughout the day. Defending
champ Lance Armstrong (USPS) stayed clear of trouble and
is still in a good position to vie for a third
consecutive win.
Prince Boar's commentary:
I wonder why they keep talking about Lance And Jan
Ullrich as favorites when they cannot manage to even
break into the top 5. Perhaps when the road gets tough
in the Pyrenees. It is clear that Moreau of Team Festina
is the true favorite! :-)
Atleast a new great power gather some points as the
Turks' team, CSC takes the stage! Congratulations to Ali
Baba.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 10 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) 19-hours 32-minutes 49-seconds
3. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :23
5. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :26
7. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :27
8. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :30
9. Florent Brard (FES) @ :30
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to England
Ivy:
> I still am talking to France (a lot; he is agressive and friendly), but you
> are still my first choice for an ally.
France certainly is easy to talk to. Probably why he's #1 (or
close) After some of the 'jerks' I'm been stuck with for allies
talking to him makes me think that this game will be more fun than some
of the other ones. Then I realize that he didn't get to be one of the
top seeds by NOT stabbing his partners at the right moment. The smile
is easy to see, but then so is the dagger.
So let's go for him. For no other reason than he's got to be the most
dangerous person in the game. Not that you're not, or I'm not, for
that matter. Germany is obviously a low seed. On the other hand,
perhaps it's better to fall under the radar screen in this game. ;-)
I am going to Burgundy, but it's a prearranged bounce. If you
arrange a bounce in the English Channel, the only move that he could
make is to Picardy or Spain. Probably Picardy, then move MAR - SPA in
the fall.
Bouncing means that I won't be in position to stop any action in
Belgium. This means that unless you arrange a bounce, France will be in
position to build three. On the other hand, he should know that if he
does that, EVERYONE will notice. (and attack)
This could mean that you could walk into Belgium in the fall. But
that'll be between the two of you.
I prefer a more aggressive route after the first build.
Fred IVXXX
Message from Germany to France
Prince Boar:
Diplomacy is more important than biking? I disagree. This is a
game. TDF is life. (Maybe that's a little over the top)
OLN is broadcasting live. Starting at 9:30 am EST. Which means that
the race is usually half over when they start. But then it's live the
rest of the way. So I turn on my VCR. At work I go to the OLNTV.com
site. The sound from the TV show is available there, if you have a fast
connection.
Kevin Livingston from USPS is on Telekom this year. He was a name that
I remember from last year. I think the Russian replaced him. MAybe
that was a step up?
I'm submitting orders to go to Burgundy. I'm also going to Denmark.
As you point out this will leave Belgium free of German interference in
the fall. This will leave possession of this gem as negotiable between
you and England. Perhaps not the best move for me, but the other option
is not to go to Denmark or Burgundy. If I go to Ruhr, you'll be in
Burgundy, and I'll just have to retreat to Munich, or chance leaving it
open. Truthfully, I wouldn't go for building three in this game. Too
much chance that I'll become a target of everyone around me. I wouldn't
be surprised if you feel the same. I could also not go to Denmark,
but I don't want to give England the opportunity to bounce me out of
there. More importantly, I want to have the Sweden bounce as a tool to
find out what Russia is up too. I have no idea if I'll bounce him out
of Sweden, but I want that option, if he doesn't concentrate on the
south.
I'll send a lot more press after the first move. That's when things
will get 'interesting'.
Why won't there be a Western Triple, at least early? I haven't brought
it up, but neither has anyone else. I wonder why?
I'm ridden over 1200 miles this summer, so far. Making this my best
summer yet. That 38 miles was just a recreation cruise. Three days
before I went 77 miles.
Plus a couple of weeks ago I did 300 miles in 4 days. That was fun.
I'd like to ride across the country, but am too old.
I'll be off on a weekend getaway on Friday. But I should be able to
respond tomorrow again. I don't have DIP at work. It's too
distracting, I need to get some work done there.
Two stage wins already. Ye Ha.
Frederick McMVXII
Message from Germany to Russia
Nik:
We should know more after the opening move. The place that I'm
watching is the Channel. Naturally as in all games everyone is
friends with everyone else, but we'll see what the real moves have to
say. I listen to them more than what anyone says.
To reiterate, I'm not heading east.
Freddy.
>
> Ah, ok, fair enough. It's difficult to predict
> which Centers will be open for builds, since I haven't
> decided on an Opening, but if you want help against
> England, I'm willing to use the Swedish supplies to build
> F StP/NC, (or A StP, if you prefer), or build in Mos/Sev,
> and head south, if you don't want the help, or are allied
> with England against France.
>
> Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Germany to Turkey
Oh you're NOT going to tell me your exact alliances? Ok, I'll guess.
No I didn't really expect you to have your alliances nailed down yet, or
to tell me if you did.
I'm in the same boat. Talking a lot, not saying much. Both France and
England communicate well. Russia less so. For instance, I had to prod
him twice to get anything out of him on what he would build if I let him
into Sweden. I guess he's keeping all his options open.
Naturally if I do let him in, he'll have told me that he'll either will
use the build in your neck of the woods, or against England. Again
this is not news.
Anybody making any sounds about doing the unexpected and moving toward
TYR, BOH, SIL, PRU?
Your friend
Frederick CIXV
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
Thank you for the note. I will confirm the bounce in
Burgundy. It does have some advantages. It gives up
better options for defense of our homeland against Italy.
It also allows us to point out to whomever that we do not
trust each other very much. Just in case that is useful.
As for the Triple Alliance. I have often found that it
is just a ploy to get someone to turn their back so the
other two can stab them more easily. Also, many times it
is suggested early because people are being polite and
feel uncomfortable acknowledging that someone in our
group is likely to be ganged up on by the other two.
Well, in this game we must all be mature enough to know
what is coming and do not feel the need to pretend
otherwise. That is at least why I never mentioned it.
>I'm ridden over 1200 miles this summer, so far.
>Making this my best summer yet. That 38 miles was just
> a recreation cruise.
Don't make me cry. I will be lucky to find the time to
ride 38 miles at once. My best ever was a century. I
could not walk for a few days afterwards :-) Of course
there were two long periods of down pouring rain and the
last third was into a strong headwind (the kind that
makes the flag look stiff :-0)
>Three days before I went 77 miles. Plus a couple of
>weeks ago I did 300 miles in 4 days. That was fun.
>I'd like to ride across the country, but am too old.
Never say that! You are never too old. It is a state of
mind! :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from Italy to Austria, England, France, Germany, Russia, and Turkey
My sincere apologies for less than punctual in returning press. Real life
as gotten the best of me the last couple of days. Don't feel 'special' that
you haven't heard from me the last couple of days - I've 'ignored' each of
you equally.
I promise first thing tomorrow morning (Friday) to send a message to all.
Once again, my apologies.
Life is Beautiful (except when it interferes with my Diplomacy),
Roberto
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 5 Results:
The fifth stage of the Tour de France is a team trial
stage. Each member of the team gets assigned the time of
the slowest member. The teams therefore ride together
and try to help each other. In most trials so far, the
difference between first and second place has been 0-3
seconds. In this stage Team Credit Agricole finished
almost a half a minute faster than the next team and
almost a minute ahead the the next. The fourth team,
USPS, was almost a minute and a half behind.
This is quite an accomplishment for Credit Agricole since
they were not expected to contend. They must have been
inspired by the fact that one of their team mates is
wearing the Yellow Jersey. O'Grady should hold that lead
for a while, perhaps until the Mountain stages.
NO one gets any points. But at least it is a French team
with the lead. Too bad it is not the one that is riding
for me (Festina).
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) 20 hours, 54 minutes 21 seconds
4. Igor G. Galdeano (ONC) @ :57
8. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ 1:17
15. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ 1:53
19. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ 2:20
24. Michael Boogerd (RAB) @ 2:47
Message from Germany to all
I will be away this weekend. So my next message to anyone will be on
Monday.
This will give you all a good opportunity to blame everything on me.
Sorry, but my schedule calls for me having way too much fun this
weekend.
Frederick XCMXXMVVIII the 3rd
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
Thank you for your note. I am confirming the bounce in
Burgundy. It is a good compromise in this game. I am
sure that we can still put things to our best advantage
in the long run.
Have you heard anything about an Italian opening? Has he
and Austria agreed not to move to Tyrolia?
I wish you the best of luck this season.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to France
Prince Boar:
I'm happy with the bounce in BUR. You certainly don't want me in
there, and I feel better without you there.
It also allows both of us to sit tight on one front. It's never a bad
idea to hold in MAR the first turn. In case Italy gets some ideas.
One of those ideas being a move to TYR, so holding in MUN also works for
me.
Obviously my other main option was to go to RUHR. But that leaves you
in BUR (more than likely) so a retreat back to MUN will often be the
next move.
Italy has been fairly quiet. Sounds like he has a busy summer like me.
Austria sends the usual; Hi how ya doin. You're a stud, lets be
friends.
What's your opinion of Russia? To me he seems to be less of a
communicative wiz than either you or England.
My what a nice bunch of guys we have. I suppose that's to be expected.
Previous games there always seemed to be a one of more guys who I just
couldn't snuggle up against. This group is special in more than one
way. Perhaps the game should be called charisma instead of titleist. I
almost want to just sit tight and be friends with everyone. I'll set
draw if you will. ;-)
Frederick XXXXXIV
Message from Italy to Germany
Hope this reaches you before your trip.
Austria has given me the green light to move to Tyrolia for the express
purpose of moving to boh then to sil/gal in coming seasons.
I know you asked for advance warning of a move to Tyrolia. I have not made
up my mind that I will definitely move to Tyrolia but it is a distinct
possibility.
I realize there is a good chance that you won't receive this message in time
for a reply but, if possible, a stamp of approval would most likely tip the
scale for me in deciding my final order. If you have an opposing point of
view regarding the potential northern movement of my army, I would be most
interested in hearing that and I would certainly reconsider my orders.
Again, my apologies for any inconvience my delay in press has caused you and
I hope you have a good time this weekend.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Germany
Frederick,
> Oh you're NOT going to tell me your exact alliances? Ok, I'll guess.
> No I didn't really expect you to have your alliances nailed down yet, or
> to tell me if you did.
Indeed, they have not yet been nailed down. I must confess to some anxiety
regarding the matter. I may just have to see which of my neighbors go to
war before deciding. Hopefully they won't all just come after me.
> I'm in the same boat. Talking a lot, not saying much. Both France and
> England communicate well. Russia less so. For instance, I had to prod
> him twice to get anything out of him on what he would build if I let him
> into Sweden. I guess he's keeping all his options open.
> Naturally if I do let him in, he'll have told me that he'll either will
> use the build in your neck of the woods, or against England. Again
> this is not news.
Interesting. I take it then that you're planning to at least have the
option in the fall? Austria has been urging me to join him in an early
anti-Russian offensive, but I'm not yet convinced he's on the level. I've
also heard rumors (though only rumors) of AR cooperation. What is your
impression of the Austrian?
> Anybody making any sounds about doing the unexpected and moving toward
> TYR, BOH, SIL, PRU?
Not a peep. I still have no idea what any of my neighbors is planning.
However, I must say I'll be surprised if anyone moves to any of those
provinces.
And I'm not just being coy... I really don't know what this first move will
look like. Everyone seems to be playing their cards quite close to the vest
so far. Either that, or I'm being kept in the dark more than I realize.
Kind regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Germany to Turkey
Ali:
I haven't had much contact with A or I. Italy appears to be busy with
the good life. Austria, I don't know.
Just some friendly conversations about Tyrolia. I'm hoping that we
don't see anyone there, also.
Well I'm worthless for your benefit. Hopefully that will change as the
game moves on.
Freddy
Message from Turkey to Germany
Dear Freddy,
Thanks for your quick reply!
> I haven't had much contact with A or I. Italy appears to be busy with
> the good life. Austria, I don't know.
> Just some friendly conversations about Tyrolia. I'm hoping that we
> don't see anyone there, also.
I see. Wish I had more to tell ya. I'll certainly write if I learn
anything along those lines.
> Well I'm worthless for your benefit. Hopefully that will change as the
> game moves on.
Not entirely worthless I'd say. Any chance you might shed some light on
your thoughts regarding Sweden? If an anti-Russian campaign were launched,
would you be in a position to join juch an effort? Or is it too early to
tell?
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
I am sorry, France cannot set draw. The Dauphin says
that we will fight to the death! Or at least until 1905,
then we shall see.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
What a lucky day to have our first deadline! My
astrologer says that it will be a good day for me. I
just do not know why he was sweating so much, the air
conditioning was on? At any rate, I am sending you all a
four-leaf clover, just to cover your fate. I have
millions of clover in my yard, it should not be hard to
find a few with four leaves.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Germany
Dear Freddy IVXMC,
Hope you have a nice weekend. Just heard from Roberto, and he does not
want to move to Piedmont. Given the fact that Munich->B will not go
through, but only bounce, I think it best that I too take a cautious
approach this spring.
Let's talk on Monday after you get back.
Your friend,
Ivy
Message from Master to all
Moves are due tonight, everyone. Some have 'wait' set, which is perfectly
fine. But if someone has failed to submit orders after ten days of
negotiation, I'm going to be upset . . .
Also, the following deadlines will be at 48hr intervals, not landing on
weekends. So this game is destined to pick up speed.
Doug
Message from Germany to Master
Doug:
I'll be away this weekend. But that shouldn't impact the game.
Leading a trip of 74 people up to Steamboat Springs, Co.
Rich
Message from Germany to Turkey
Ali:
If an anti-Russian campaign were to be launched, I'd seriously consider
jumping in.
I can say that I am moving to Denmark this turn. That's not really an
anti-Russia move. But I do want to be in position in case something
comes up. More importantly I want to rule out the possibility that
England bounces me out of Denmark in the fall. Even more importantly,
NOT going to Denmark would set me up to have a chance to build three. I
don't want to start that way.
Freddi
> Not entirely worthless I'd say. Any chance you might shed some light on
> your thoughts regarding Sweden? If an anti-Russian campaign were launched,
> would you be in a position to join juch an effort? Or is it too early to
> tell?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ali Baba
Message from Germany to England
Ivy:
I think we'll all take a cautious approach the first turn. Waiting for
someone else to make a mistake being a common tactic.
I also heard the Italy wasn't going to Piedmont. It remains to be seen
if he goes to TYR. I wouldn't like that if I were Austria, especially
if the army in Rome follows to Venice.
Have a good weekend.
I've noticed that France sends out about three times as much mail as
anyone else. But then we're also getting updates on the TDF.
Fredi
Austria: Army Budapest → Serbia
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Albania
Austria: Army Vienna → Trieste (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Edinburgh → Norwegian Sea
England: Army Liverpool → Yorkshire
England: Fleet London → North Sea
France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Marseilles → Burgundy (*bounce*)
France: Army Paris → Picardy
Germany: Army Berlin → Kiel
Germany: Fleet Kiel → Denmark
Germany: Army Munich → Burgundy (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Rome → Apulia
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Moscow → St Petersburg
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) → Gulf of Bothnia
Russia: Army Warsaw → Ukraine
Turkey: Fleet Ankara → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Smyrna → Constantinople
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