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Message from Master to all
Welcome to 'titleist', the championship game of the 2000-01
Vermont Group Full Press Tournament. The first round reduced
49 players down to 21 and the second round reduced us down to
these seven. They've earned their way into the final and I
wish them the best.
The name 'titleist' refers to the fact that the winner will
consider himself the champion or title-holder for full-press
Diplomacy in the Vermont Group. This winner will be a soloist,
or the largest member of a draw. If the two largest members
of a draw are of equal size, they will be declared co-titleists.
'titleist' is also a very popular brand of golf balls and
golf equipment, which fits in well with the tendencies of your
game master. :-)
I'm capturing all partial press for display as a showcase game,
so keep in mind that your words will be recorded for posterity.
Keep the potty mouth to a minimum. ;-)
I've set the press to WGP-, and moved the first deadline to Friday,
July 13. There are two players who are in and out a bit early
on, so I don't want anyone short changed in the first season.
Let's come out swinging!
Doug
Message from France to all
Bonjour Europe and La Grande Assemblage of Observers.
Je m'appelle Prince Xavier Boar!
My father has grown ill and my brother, the Dauphin, has
taken over the day to day running of France. Since the
eldest tends to inherit the property and titles, most
often the second eldest turns to a religious education.
I am no different. But being the son of the King of
France, I could not follow a career in the Clergy,
therefore I have settled for being the spiritual leader
of France. I leave the teaching of religion to our
Bishops and the Church; I focus instead on philosophy and
the arts. Given that I am a "people person", by brother
has allowed me the privilege of being France's embassy to
Europe.
I pledge to take up this office with vigor and faithfully
fulfill my duty to both France and my neighbors in
Europe. I leave you with this motto which describes
myself, my brother, and our father.
France, her pen, her sword, and her legacy.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Russia:
Greetings from France. Our countries seem so far apart
and yet we have so many common areas of interest. I
suspect that for at least the first year we may not need
to directly interact. But we may be share information
and work together to setting up a commonly desired
situation in the West and East.
Do you have any strong preferred paths to glory? I once
knew a composer who insisted that writing a single
masterpiece was the best way to fame and fortune and he
would not play in public anything that he considered to
be less than that. Meanwhile others have steadily played
small performances and improved their fame slowly. I
know not which is the best course, but expect that there
are many routes to one's desires. And I believe that
this is true in Diplomacy as well. Whether we arrange
the defect of England and then press Germany between us,
or the opposite does not matter in the end. There are
certainly other options as well. I suspect that the path
that we follow may not present itself openly for a year
or two as plans much remain secret and until an open war
is declared, we will not know for sure the truth.
At any rate, I look forward to many interesting
conversations. I promise that they will be less
confusing than this message! I should not write when it
is late! The candle grows low in the holder.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to all
Hear Ye. Hear Ye. The Great Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Frederick XXXIV extends his well wishes and salutations to all the
other noble rulers of Europe. Emissaries of the higher order are on
their way to your capitals. They bear gifts of great value and mystery.
Please receive them with kindness and wisdom.
Emperor Frederick.
Message from England to Russia
My dearest Russia,
Greetings, old chap.
I haven't forgotten the invaluable aid that you rendered at old Waterloo.
Wasn't that was a wee tussle! We really ought to work together more often.
In short, I am not adverse to joining forces for the purpose of harassing
Huns, Lombards, Franks, and Turks. I suspect you are an experienced and
highly successful master at this trade, and I hope to have you on my side.
Should you wish to concentrate your attention on southern matters, then we
can still be respectful of each other's interest in Scandinavia. I vow to
take Norway with a fleet; that's least threatening to Russia. While I
cannot tell if Germany will be friend or foe, if the former then I will
urge him to avoid conflict in Sweden. If the latter, then you will be more
than welcome to nibble at the Hun from the rear.
May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to all
To: diplomats of Europe
From: Ivy Wingo
My nom de guerre, "Ivy Wingo" may be odd in that it has nothing to do with
war or diplomacy or politics. However, I like its somewhat romantic ring,
suggestive, perhaps, of characteristics of my true persona: honesty, honor,
harmlessness, faithfulness, integrity, loyalty, and innocence.
Let's have a wee contest. An actual, tangible, prize awaits the first
person to identify the real Ivy Wingo. Who is/was he? You are on your
honor (yes, honor!) not to consult any references whatsoever. Either you
know of Ivy Wingo or you don't. Surely, someone out there must be familiar
with him.
Remember, a real prize awaits the first to tell me who I am. Offer expires
if I expire.
Message from Russia to England
Something tells me that Ivy Wingo was a friend/associate of J. R. R.
Tolkien, and C. S. Lewis, at Oxford. (The Notion Club, perhaps?) I know
I've seen the name
before, but it's not quite clicking.
Tzar Nicholas II
P.S. Thank you for your mail, and I will respond formally to it once I get
my
Opening Broadcast sent out.
Nicky.
Message from Master to all
Okay, I just posted this to r.g.d:
Observers to this game can't comment on the game on USIN, but members
of 'vgfp_titleist' on yahoogroups.com can kibbitz all they like -- the
players are the only ones who won't be permitted to join the mailing
list. So if you'd like to discuss the game with others, join that
mailing list.
I should have included the list of participants (all JDPR's referenced
are as of March 7, which sucks, but is still relevant. They don't
include the semi-final results and are thus likely to be even higher
than listed):
Allen Schweinsberg: his 1716 JDPR rating is ninth among active players.
He's played 14 games on record, with victories in 'highland' and
'pinecone' on USEF, 'samband' on TWUT, and 'vgfp0005' on USIN in the
first round of the tournament, as well as five draws. Focuses largely
on full-press games and was ranked #6 on that list at the end of 2000.
Eric Hunter: 1535 JDPR, rank #23. Three full-game and one partial-game
press solos ('juteland' on USWA, 'eden' on USIN, 'unortho1' on
USBR, and 'rachel' on USIN), along with 11 draws, including a 2WD in
'vgfp0001' in the first round. Plays all types of press; was #19 on
the YE2000 full-press list.
Jeff Stephens: 1379 JDPR, ranked in the top 100. 54 official games
played, mostly full press, dating back to 1995. Three full solos and two
partials ('dilsey3' and 'mudcats' on USWI, 'samakama' on USEF, 'adv1'
on USIN, and 'exp2' on USEF), as well as 23 draws -- including a 2WD
in 'vgfp0012' on USVG and a 3WD in 'vgfp0006' on USIN in the first round.
#28 on the YE2000 full-press list.
Ken Lofgren: 1714 JDPR, #10 amongst active players and on YE2000
full-press list. 58 official games played, with 4 victories ('rubicon'
on USEF, 'test0' on USCA, 'tech4' and 'squash' on USEF) in games with
press, along with many draws, including a 3WD in 'vgfp0014' on USVG.
Mixes no-press tournaments and variants in with a steady diet of
full-press games.
Randy Hudson: 1733 JDPR, ranked #8. 77 games played, primarily no-press
and real-time, with lots of variants thrown in as well. Full-press
victories in 'flyer' and 'burnoff' on USEF, as well as the first round
game 'vgfp0009' on USVG and four no-press games. Only two career losses
in full-press game starts.
Rich Olver: 1271 JDPR. The underdog. :-) Normally, that rating is
one of the top one or two in a game, but not here. Played 34 games,
mostly no-press in recent years. Full-press wins in 'winooski' on USIN,
'vergenne' on USEF, and a 2WD in 'vgfp0008' on USVG in the first round.
JDPR peaked at 1471, before the 1999 and 2000 Vermont Group no-press
tournaments (which didn't go so well).
Roger Yonkoski: 1818 JDPR, #4 amongst active players. Also ranked #3
on YE2000 full-press list with 1825 rating. 25 games played, with
full-press solos in 'primary' on USEF, 'braves' on USNM, 'pride' on
USCA, 'horse' on USWI, 'truth' and 'abby' on USEF, plus a dozen or more
draws. 2WD in 'vgfp0013' in the first round. His loss in 'vgfp0004'
was his first loss, ever, in a full-press game he started. The favorite.
The average JDPR of the players in this game will be calculated at
then end of the game (that's the measurement point for all games).
Given that these players' successes in the second round (not to be
revealed until the final is finished), this is likely to be the
highest rated game in Judge history.
Doug
Message [from England] to all
What is most amazing about the list of players are the missing names.
Where is Ron Poet, #1 in the March ratings and #2 in this tournament after
the preliminary games? Where is Karlis Povisils, former #1 in the world,
currently #2, and #1 in this tournament after the preliminaries? Where is
Michael Andresen, currently #6 in the March ratings, and #3 in this
tournament after the preliminaries?
Arguably, the three best players going into the semifinal round did not
survive.
This is a most dangerous world. Get me out of here!
[Perhaps Rich Olver is the real favorite.]
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
> Something tells me that Ivy Wingo was a friend/associate of J. R. R.
>Tolkien, and C. S. Lewis, at Oxford. (The Notion Club, perhaps?) I know
>I've seen the name before, but it's not quite clicking.
Sorry, I have nothing to do with Oxford or the chaps you mentioned.
May you live in peace in Sweden.
May I live in peace in Norway.
May our fortunes be entwined,
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> > Something tells me that Ivy Wingo was a friend/associate of J. R. R.
> >Tolkien, and C. S. Lewis, at Oxford. (The Notion Club, perhaps
>
> Sorry, I have nothing to do with Oxford or the chaps you mentioned.
Hmm, could he be Red Wingo's older brother? ;-) (The web is a wonderful
thing.)
> May you live in peace in Sweden.
> May I live in peace in Norway.
> May our fortunes be entwined,
But not too closely entwined... ;-)
Nicky.
Message from England to Russia
> Hmm, could he be Red Wingo's older brother? ;-) (The web is a wonderful
>thing.)
Why, yes, of course, but the "rules" excluded consulting any reference.
Rather than question your honor, I will just assume that after your first
guess, you just gave up.
Cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to all
(St. Petersburg, Russia, Dec. 1900)
"St.
Petersburg Pravda"
"A New Century, A New
Russia, and a New Europe"
In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II, the
Czar-Liberator, outlined his ideas regarding Russia in the 20th Century.
Here is the text of his speech.
With the ever increasing rate of industrialization in Russia and the
rest Europe, it has become clear that some manner of continental control is
necessary to ensure worker safety, to increase worker salaries, and to allow
their involvement in production decisions, in order to increase worker
satisfaction. Doing so will increase both productivity and profits.
Continental control of production centres will also increase profit and
productivity through the application of economies of scale, and make sure
that the natural resources needed for maintaining these newly achieved
levels of production can be cheaply and efficiently obtained. I, therefore,
propose the formation of a cooperative council to implement and oversee the
achievement of this European Economic Union, and lay out the following
proposed declaration of principles for the EEU.
Declaration of Principles
The fundamental tenets of the EEU movement are that more centralized control
of Production Centers will result in increased productivity and profits.
Secondly, worker unionization will improve safety, worker involvement in
production decisions, worker salaries, and worker satisfaction, and
therefore also increase productivity, thus a more efficient and profitable
economy will develop.
1) The 34 major Production Centers in Europe must be controlled by EEU
Member states.
2) Workers in Europe, both Agricultural, and Manufacturing, must be
Unionized.
3) Worker Unions and Management must negotiate equitable contracts that
protect worker safety, encourage worker innovation, and improve
productivity, and therefore improve management profits, and worker salaries.
4) If Management and Unions cannot agree on a Contract, they will submit to
the decision of the EEU Board of Arbitration.
5) The EEU will not interfere in the internal political, and social, affairs
of its member states.
6) All EEU member states will come to the aid of another member state, if
any member state is threatened by an outside state.
7) Conflicts between member states will be resolved through negotiation, not
the use of force.
8) Overall economic goals and policies will be set by the Union House, which
will have per capita representation from each union, and the Management
House, which will have a representative from each production area that must
negotiate with a union.
9) This overall economic policy will be subject to review by the EEU
Assembly, (a member from each EEU state), and final approval by the three
member Executive Council (Russia, and two members, yet to be determined.)
. These guiding principles are not yet set in stone, and are subject to
amendment by the Executive Council once it is formed, and I am more than
willing to consider the concerns of prospective members of the EEU. Rulers
of Europe, I look forward to speaking with each of you, and I hope to
establish close working relationships with those of you who see the
advantages that the EEU represents for our nations, our workers, and the
world.
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> > Hmm, could he be Red Wingo's older brother? ;-)
> Why, yes, of course, but the "rules" excluded consulting any reference.
> Rather than question your honor, I will just assume that after your first
> guess, you just gave up.
Well, yes. I didn't see much point in guessing, and
since my first instinct was wrong, I decided to look
him up, and mentioned that fact parenthetically so
you would know I was out of the running.
Russia.
Message from England to all
>In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II, the
>Czar-Liberator, outlined his ideas regarding Russia in the 20th Century.
>Here is the text of his speech.
>
> With the ever increasing rate of industrialization in Russia and the
>rest Europe, it has become clear that some manner of continental control is
>necessary to ensure worker safety,
blah, blah, blah ...
>Declaration of Principles
blah, blah, blah ...
Just conquer the world and get on with it, man. 8-)
Ivy Wingo
Message from Russia to France
> Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> Greetings from France. But we may be share information
> and work together to setting up a commonly desired
> situation in the West and East.
I would, of course, welcome the opportunity to exchange information, as
well as vodka for your fine wines, and our tasty black bread for your
delicate cheeses.
> Do you have any strong preferred paths to glory?
Russia and France share the similar gift/curse of being primarily
focused in one direction, but having one Home Centre best suited to exert
influence in the other. I feel this requires a greater awareness of the
"Big Picture", and a measure of flexibility to take advantage of
opportunities wherever they might appear. This is another reason for us to
share information.
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to all
> Broadcast message from England in 'titleist':
>
> >In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II,
>
> blah, blah, blah ...
>
> >Declaration of Principles
>
> blah, blah, blah ...
>
> Just conquer the world and get on with it, man. 8-)
Well, I could have given the standard, "I welcome your ambassadors, and
hope we can all be friends." speech, but I didn't figure anyone would buy
that, either. ;-) I do apologize for the length of my opening broadcast
though. I neglected to write it ahead of time, so it was rather
long-winded.
Nicky.
Message from England to all
Nicky,
> Well, I could have given the standard, "I welcome your ambassadors, and
>hope we can all be friends." speech, but I didn't figure anyone would buy
>that, either. ;-) I do apologize for the length of my opening broadcast
>though.
Heavens, I hope I didn't suggest the need for an apology. With my 20th
Century hindsight, I tend to suspect that Russians are long on the pen, but
put their faith in the sword. Actually I like the "I hope we all can be
friends" approach, at least afterwards. When this is all over, perhaps we
can drink a toast to friendship. If the drinks are contaminated with a wee
drop of blood, well, what's a little blood between friends?
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
In all seriousness, no offense intended.
I stand by my pledge to take Norway with a fleet and respect your right to
Sweden. I have yet to hear from Germany, and do not know if he will be foe
or friend. France is alive and well. I suspect he is a player of great
skill.
Ivy
Message from Russia to Germany
> Broadcast message from Germany in 'titleist':
>
> Hear Ye. Hear Ye. The Great Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
> Frederick XXXIV extends his well wishes and salutations to all the
> other noble rulers of Europe. Emissaries of the higher order are on
> their way to your capitals. They bear gifts of great value and mystery.
> Please receive them with kindness and wisdom.
Emperor Frederick,
Good to hear from you, and I await your emmisary. England has indicated
a willingness to occupy Norway with a Fleet, so I hope that we can come to
an understanding regarding Sweden, which will allow me to focus on the
silent south, and you on the wild west. Fleet Kiel -> Holland allows you a
supported attack on Belgium in the Fall of 1901, while
bouncing me out of Sweden gains you little beyond the appreciation of my
southern opponent. What do you think?
Czar Nicholas II
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> We really ought to work together more often.
I am not, at all, opposed to this suggestion, though given the southern
silence, I am reluctant to commit to an early incursion into Germany.
Certainly we can exchange information, and work together where circumstances
allow.
> I vow to take Norway with a fleet; that's least threatening to Russia.
Fleet London -> English Channel, Fleet Edinburgh -> North Sea, Army
Liverpool -> Yorkshire, followed by Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Army
Yorkshire -> Belgium is less threating, yet, but I take your point and would
welcome an English Fleet in Norway.
> While I cannot tell if Germany will be friend or foe, if the former then I
will
> urge him to avoid conflict in Sweden. If the latter, then you will be
more
> than welcome to nibble at the Hun from the rear.
I have heard nothing from him since his opening broadcast, but your
support of my occupation of Sweden would be appreciated. Prince Boar sent
me (and probably everyone) a note after his opening broadcast that
recognized the fact that while it seems that France and Russia are far
apart, we are really only separated by England or Germany, and therefore
have more potential than an inexperienced leader might expect. He's
definitely someone to watch, and be careful about turning your back on.
> May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
> easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
> has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
> nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
We've certainly exchanged the most mail, so far, though not a lot of it
has been Dip related. 8-) I was not the least offended by your jabs at my
opening, (please note all the smiley faces in my response), and I do realize
that it was done in good fun, (and to plant the idea of Russia as an
aggressor in everyone else's minds.). ;-)
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Turkey
Greetings from St. Petersburg:
Your Ambassador has not yet arrived here, so I thought I would take a
moment to initiate contact between our two Great Powers. As I gaze
westward, I see the opportunity for years of cooperation between us, but for
that to occur we must first establish a measure of trust and communication.
I hope to hear from you soon, and welcome any questions you may have about
the EEU. I have not yet heard from any of the Eastern Powers, but both
England and France seem more than competent. Have you heard from anyone,
and would you care to exchange impressions?
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Austria
Greetings from St. Petersburg:
Your Ambassador has not yet arrived here, so I thought I would take a
moment to initiate contact between our two Great Powers. The Turks are
bound to attack one of our great nations in 1902 or '03, and then turn on
the other, so I see the opportunity for years of cooperation between us.
For that to occur, however, we must first establish a measure of trust and
communication. I hope to hear from you soon, and welcome any questions you
may have about the EEU. I have not yet heard from any of the Eastern
Powers, but both England and France seem more than competent. Have you
heard from anyone, and would you care to exchange impressions?
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Italy
Greetings from St. Petersburg:
Your Ambassador has not yet arrived here, so I thought I would take a
moment to initiate contact between our two Great Powers. Given the distance
between our capitals, it might not seem like there is much need for early
discussion, but given that we are both Eastern Powers who could face attacks
from the West if we fail to maintain a careful watch, I see the opportunity
for years of cooperation between us. Indeed, the potential for an alliance
between Italy and Russia is both vast, and underrated, but for that to occur
we must first establish a measure of trust and communication. I hope to
hear from you soon, and welcome any questions you may have about the EEU. I
have not yet heard from any of the Eastern Powers, but both England and
France seem more than competent. Have you heard from anyone, and would you
care to exchange impressions?
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Italy to all
The great state of Italy welcomes all participants. We look forward to
discussing the future of Europe with all of you. blah, blah, friends, blah,
blah, blood, blah, blah, blah....
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto Benigni
ps: We are currently celebrating the American holiday known as the 4th of
July and are a bit busy with barbeques and sparklers and fireworks.
Tomorrow morning (Thurs), I will send more detailed press privately.
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> In all seriousness, no offense intended.
None taken.
> France is alive and well. I suspect he is a player of great skill.
I'm sure that he is. We know that his JDPR is over 1300, and given that
he's playing France, he almost certainly submitted a Preference list that
was only one or two Powers long. If we ever hear from Germany and Italy,
and you want me to privately express my concern to them about the danger
France poses to us all, let me know.
Nicky.
Message from Russia to Italy
> Broadcast message from Italy in 'titleist':
> Life is Beautiful,
>
> Roberto Benigni
I stand on the arms of my chair to welcome you to the ... Oh, wait,
that's your bit, isn't it? ;-) In any event, welcome, and I'll speak with
you tomorrow.
Nicky.
Message from Austria to Russia
To all who see these presents, Greetings!
Know ye that, reposing special trust and confidence in the fidelities
and abilities of Ralassa Hapsburg Schmidt, we do appoint her our
ambassador to your nation, in plenipotentiary.
We hope her service will serve to further enhance communication and
cooperation between our nations.
Archduke Ferdinand
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas II:
Bonjour from France.
I believe that I understood your message to me. You are
suggesting that I am best positioned to focus on the
North, but Marseilles is best suited for activity in the
South, while you are best positioned to focus on the
South while St. Petersburg is best suited for activity in
the North? At any rate we each have access to both the
North and South which gives us flexibility and a great
deal of work. It is both an important asset and a huge
liability.
As for your call for Unionization and such. I must admit
that as a Monarchy, France is not too keen on workers
rights. We would not want the people to forget their
place. We will endeavor to treat them right and any that
are not happy, we will send to you. We would sign up for
a mutual protection pact, such as you suggested. I do
not have the details of your message handy, so I hope
that I have remembered things correctly.
I also appreciate your offer of Black Bread and Vodka for
our Wine and Cheese. I will send my contribution
straight away. Please use the Black Bread as packing
material for the Vodka.
I look forward to more enjoyable conversations.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
> Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> I believe that I understood your message to me.
> You are suggesting that I am best positioned to
> focus on the North, but Marseilles is best suited
> for activity in the South, while you are best
> positioned to focus on the South while St.
> Petersburg is best suited for activity in the
> North? At any rate we each have access to both
> the North and South which gives us flexibility
> and a great deal of work. It is both an important
> asset and a huge liability.
Precisely. If brevity is the soul of wit,
I fear that I am a dullard, indeed. 8-) Also, as
we share such similar opportunities, challenges,
and outlook, there is an innate opportunity for
cooperation between us.
> As for your call for Unionization and such. I
> must admit that as a Monarchy, France is not too
> keen on workers rights. We would not want the
> people to forget their place.
The Romanov family has ruled Russia in
an unbroken line since 1613. The reforms I have
implemented here, and hope to spread throughout
Europe are intended to strengthen my rule here,
and could be used by your brother to the same
effect in France. After all, if the workers are
well-paid, (fat and happy 8-), they have no reason
to revolt, even if they have no real political
power. I suggest that you re-read the Declaration
of Principles, and note that the true Power lies
with the Executive Council, and not the
quasi-democratic Management and Union Houses.
These "reforms" will give us greater control
while simultaneously short-circuiting any
inclination toward revolt by the masses.
> I also appreciate your offer of Black Bread and
> Vodka for our Wine and Cheese. I will send my
> contribution straight away. Please use the Black
> Bread as packing material for the Vodka.
Rest assured that we have centuries of
experience in shipping vodka, and it will not be
necessary to use the bread as packing material. 8-)
While Smirnoff has been "the Czar's vodka", for some
time, I am sending you a case from a new distiller,
Stolichnaya, which I believe has a bright future.
I hope you will enjoy it as much as I do.
> I look forward to more enjoyable conversations.
As do I.
Czar Nicholas II
Message from Russia to Austria
Archduke Ferdinand,
> Message from Austria to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> Know ye that, reposing special trust and
> confidence in the fidelities and abilities of
> Ralassa Hapsburg Schmidt, we do appoint her our
> ambassador to your nation, in plenipotentiary.
We are honored to welcome your sister
(cousin?) to our court in St. Petersburg.
> We hope her service will serve to further
> enhance communication and cooperation between
> our nations.
I will meet with her as soon as she has
settled in, and hope that we can resolve the
unrest in Galicia without conducting military
operations there this Spring.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Your Ambassador has not yet arrived here,
>
What?!! Not arrived! That makes three ambassadors that have somehow not
made it to their respective destinations. I'm beginning to suspect foul
play.
> Indeed, the potential for an alliance
> between Italy and Russia is both vast, and underrated,
Funny you mention that. I've always considered an Italian/Russian alliance
to be one of the best on the board both short term and long term. I'm not
just saying that either. I honestly believe that to be true. There are a
lot of centers that can be evenly split between Turkey, Austria, and the
Balkans. Not to get too far ahead of the game, but there are numerous
advantages to an IR Juggernaut in the mid-game as opposed to the traditional
RT Juggernaut.
Anyway, I don't want to put the cart before the horse but I am most
interested in pursuing cooperation with you. In my opinion, the beginning
of said cooperation would start with Turkey whom I suspect is behind the
disappearance of my ambassadors. I have already sent a feeler to the
Austrian but have yet to receive a reply. I will let you know if he has
similar thoughts.
> Have you heard from anyone, and would you care to
> exchange impressions?
>
Just France and England so far other than yourself. Both seem competent and
formidable opponents. Both are courting my friendship although for far
different alternatives.
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
> Message from Italy to Russia in 'titleist':
> > an alliance between Italy and Russia is both
> > [powerful] and underrated,
> There are a lot of centers that can be evenly
> split between Turkey, Austria, and the Balkans.
I'd much rather split those Centres between
Italy and Russia. 8-)
> there are numerous advantages to an IR Juggernaut
> in the mid-game as opposed to the traditional
> RT Juggernaut.
Most particularly Italy's inability to
build in Ankara and Constantinople, and the shorter
distance between your Home Centres and your next
target (France) once Austria and Turkey have been
eliminated. 8-)
> In my opinion, the beginning of said cooperation
> would start with Turkey whom I suspect is behind
> the disappearance of my ambassadors.
I have yet to hear from Turkey, and silence
is always suspicious. Additionally, eliminating the
witches is best done early, so I am certainly not
opposed to this idea.
> I have already sent a feeler to the Austrian but
> have yet to receive a reply. I will let you know
> if he has similar thoughts.
I have heard from Austria, but the lack of
content in his letter was profound. It sounded
like a form-letter.
> Both France and England seem competent and
> formidable opponents. Both are courting my
> friendship although for far different alternatives.
Yes, I agree. If England is seeking to
explore the possibility of an attack on France,
I would urge you to encourage this idea. I do not
think that we want England and France allying and
rolling over Germany.
In Friendship,
Nicky.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> > There are a lot of centers that can be evenly
> > split between Turkey, Austria, and the Balkans.
>
> I'd much rather split those Centres between
> Italy and Russia. 8-)
>
Indeed. Thank you for clarifying my intent.
> > there are numerous advantages to an IR Juggernaut
> > in the mid-game as opposed to the traditional
> > RT Juggernaut.
>
> Most particularly Italy's inability to
> build in Ankara and Constantinople, and the shorter
> distance between your Home Centres and your next
> target (France) once Austria and Turkey have been
> eliminated. 8-)
>
I see that I don't have to spell out every last detail. This is good!
Clearly, we have similar understandings of the map.
>
> I have yet to hear from Turkey, and silence
> is always suspicious. Additionally, eliminating the
> witches is best done early, so I am certainly not
> opposed to this idea.
>
I have yet to hear from the Turk as well although I take partial
responsibility since I haven't yet had time to pen him a message myself.
(it's on my to-do list)
>
> I have heard from Austria, but the lack of
> content in his letter was profound. It sounded
> like a form-letter.
>
I think I received that same form letter but since have received another
message. He seemed receptive to the idea of a Turkish offensive. I've
followed up and asked if we (meaning Austria/Italy) should as you for help
as well or if he'd rather not let our 'secret' out. I'll let you know what
he says.
....
He responded as I was typing this message. He'd prefer that I not seek your
cooperation fearing it would result in a RT defense alliance. So, publicly
I'm not seeking your cooperation but maybe you could 'accidently' mistype a
support order or two. Regardless, I'll keep you posted on AI negotiations
involving Turkey if you would be so kind as to reciprocate.
>
> Yes, I agree. If England is seeking to
> explore the possibility of an attack on France,
> I would urge you to encourage this idea.
>
Well, somewhat unfortunately, I responded to him prior to reading your
message. I basically told him that I'm not the type of player who 'invades'
in Spring of 1901, especially a neighbor as potentially powerful as France.
I didn't necessarily discourage an attack but I didn't really encourage it
either. Has England approached you with a suggestion to coordinate an
attack against Germany?
> I do not think that we want England and France
> allying and rolling over Germany.
True enough but I'm not too thrilled with the idea of England and Germany
rolling over France either. The longer the West remains unresolved, the
better for us obviously. We may find ourselves in a situation of having to
prop up the weakest of the Western powers until such time as we can move
west. Which begs the question, will Germany bounce you out of Sweden and if
so what would your response be?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to all
The Sultanate of Turkey sends its warmest regards to our fellow leaders.
The Sultan himself has been imprisoned, ah, I mean, is temporarily
indisposed, and I now represent the armed forces of Turkey. We have sent
our spies, ah, that is, envoys and diplomats, throughout Europe. We look
forward to penetrating the defenses, that is to say, building on the mutual
security of our fellow Powers. We look forward to a lively dialogue while
the peasants beat their plowshares into swords.
Sincerely,
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Russia
Czar Nicholas,
Thank you for your letter; I hope you will accept my heartfelt apologies
that I didn't write sooner. I, too, see many great opportunities for RT
cooperation. Indeed, I am greatly interested in building and strengthening
our relations. I hope and trust that you're already familiar with the great
power that we could share, if we can trust each other and work together
effectively.
The first order of business, of course, is the disposition of the Black Sea,
and of your southern fleet. There are three choices that come to mind: we
could bounce in Bla, DMZ Bla, or if you're feeling adventurous, we could try
something exotic such as the Slingshot. Myself, I think that the bounce is
counter-productive for both of us. Whether or not we can agree to an
immediate DMZ will be determined as our talks continue, I'm sure. I would
actually prefer the latter option, as I like to stir the pot, so to speak.
In addition to specifics, I'd like to hear more about how you envision a
possible RT shaking out. Do you prefer the cloak & dagger, attempting to
hide RT from the others until it's underway? Would you feel comfortable
opening with an overt alliance?
As for the others, so far I've only received the usual introductory
greetings. However, it is my hope that conversations will begin to
flourish, and I sincerely look forward to our comparing notes as the
diploming progresses.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
I agree that we may have much in common and much to
cooperate over. I do realize that now may not be the
time to figure discuss them. Our plans may require
secrecy. But let us always keep those options in mind.
As I stated in my opening letter, there are many paths
that we may take to cooperate. Let's keep an eye out for
signs of a German-English alliance. That alliance always
marks France and Russia as it's victims. We would need
to work closely together.
>From a philosophical point of view, would it make more
sense for Russia, Germany, and France to work to
eliminate England, or would Russia, England, and France
be better suited to eliminate Germany. It seems that
either would work. But there may be a tactical,
strategic, or geographic reason why one would work
better. I was curious whether you had any thoughts on
that, from a purely hypothetical point of view of course.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to Italy
> Message from Italy to Russia in 'titleist':
> I have yet to hear from the Turk as well although I take partial
> responsibility since I haven't yet had time to pen him a message myself.
> (it's on my to-do list)
He replied to my message today. I'm more impressed with
him than I am with the Archduke at this point.
> I think I received that same form letter but since have received another
> message. He seemed receptive to the idea of a Turkish offensive. He'd
> prefer that I not seek your cooperation fearing it would result in a RT
> defense alliance.
Or worse yet (for Austria), an RI Alliance once Turkey is eliminated.
8-)
I think it's best if we down-play our relationship when talking with AT.
I've
indicated a willingness to consider RA in both my letters to Austria, but
have
not gotten a substantive response. Perhaps he feels that we are destined to
come into conflict, and sees no reason to attempt to avoid it.
> Well, somewhat unfortunately, I responded to him prior to reading your
> message. I basically told him that I'm not the type of player who
'invades'
> in Spring of 1901, especially a neighbor as potentially powerful as
France.
> I didn't necessarily discourage an attack but I didn't really encourage it
> either. Has England approached you with a suggestion to coordinate an
> attack against Germany?
England has been surprisingly accomodating. He offered to occupy
Nwy with a Fleet , and either attack Germany together, or attempt to
influence him to let me into Swe, before I made my Opening Broadcast.
You could approach him in a few days with a line like, 'The more I talk
to France, the more concerned I become. Perhaps attacking him early,
before he has a chance to grow is worth considering..."
> > we [don't] want England and France rolling over Germany.
>
> True enough but I'm not too thrilled with the idea of England and Germany
> rolling over France either. The longer the West remains unresolved, the
> better for us obviously.
Obviously, but EG is more unstable than EF in my opinion, and France
is much harder to eliminate than Germany is. Plus, Prince Boar seems
entirely too capable.
> will Germany bounce you out of Sweden and if
> so what would your response be?
I've heard nothing from Germany beyond his Opening Broadcast, yet.
I wrote to him suggesting that Fleet Kiel -> Holland had advantages for
him that F Kie - Den - Swe did not, but he has not responded. My
reaction to a threatened or actual bounce depends on the circumstances,
but I expect I'd need to respond somewhat forcefully to maintain
control of St. Petersburg, so that I could attack in the North while you
concentrate in the South, after we eliminate AT.
In Friendship,
Nicky.
Message from Germany to Russia
Please excuse my poor timing, but I won't be able to discuss the game
tonight. It's past my bedtime, and I have many more emails to answer.
I picked next weekend as the perfect time to take 73 of my closest
friends to a getaway weekend. There were 50 unread emails backed up
tonight. Who says computers are time savers. Bah Humbug.
You're quite right in that we need to talk about Sweden. Time after
time Germany bounces Russia out of there. I would like to look at other
options. In particular, if I don't bounce you there, what commitments
can you make that you won't use that build against me. Or better yet,
what should our joint action be?
Frederick
Message from Russia to Germany
Frederick,
> Message from Germany to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> You're quite right in that we need to talk about Sweden. I would like
> to look at other options. In particular, if I don't bounce you there,
> what commitments can you make that you won't use that build against
> me. Or better yet, what should our joint action be?
Alliances are, of course, still up in the air at this point, but given
the
frequency with which England and France are writing, and the quality
of their correspondence, I am already concerned about an EF
"reverse-Juggernaut" rolling eastward, so, at this point, I am
pro-German as a matter of self-defense. 8-) Obviously, an agreement
about Sweden would reinforce that inclination. While conventional
wisdom suggests that Germany and Russia are destined to come into
conflict, there are actually a number of stalemate lines that would make
that both unnecessary and unproductive.
As a devout Orthodox Christian, my dislike of witches suggests a
possibility for cooperation between us, but Ivy Wingo has been
surprisingly accommodating (offering to occupy Norway with a Fleet
even before I had a chance to write to him), so if you decide that your
best hope lies in attacking France, I can provide you with a rear-guard
to discourage English stabs.
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from France to Austria, England, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Turkey
Mes Amis:
I shall be away the next two days. I will be hiking and
meditating in the French Alps. I hear that there is an
astrologer hermit in the Mountains and I aslo wish to
consult him on some things that I have read in the stars.
I am letting you know this for two reasons. The first is
that I do not want you to think that I am ignoring you if
I do not immediately return mail. The second is that I
am willing to consult the hermit on your behalf.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
It is with great pleasure that I announce the beginning
of the Tour de France. I will be at the official start
of the race tomorrow.
As it is such a national treasure and a point of pride
for France, I will endeavor to keep you informed of the
Progress.
I imagine that Germany will be pulling for Team Deustche
Telekom
England may wish to adopt the American USPS team, as they
share a common language.
Italy should choose one of the Italian Teams:
Fassa Bortolo
Lampre - Daikin
Mapei - Quick Step
I will choose a French team, say:
Festina
The remainder of you (Turkey, Austria, and Russia) can
choose one of:
*Rabobank from the Netherlands
*Domo - Farm Frites from Belgium
*CSC - World Online from Denmark
*O.N.C.E. from Spain
(first come first serve, send me your preferences in
order as I may not see them before the race begins)
Please let me know your choice. I will then award points
according to the following:
10 points for winning a stage
20 points for winning the Green or Polka Dot Jersey
50 Points for winning the race
Who ever gets the most points is the winner and wins the
following grande prize:
A date for their sister with the Dauphin.
(not to mention a great deal of bragging rights)
I hope that you will all participate. It will be fun, I
promise. Just imaging the fame you will receive as your
adopted team wins a stage. Power, Fame, Dates, they will
all be yours.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
preferences in order
>*Rabobank from the Netherlands
>*Domo - Farm Frites from Belgium
>*CSC - World Online from Denmark
>*O.N.C.E. from Spain
Nicky.
Message from England to Russia
Czar Nicholas II
>I am reluctant to commit to an early incursion into Germany.
Of course, I haven't asked this. I just need to find a friend between
Germany or France, and it's too soon to know what the resolution of this
will be. France is obviously highly skilled and dangerous. On the other
hand, Germany is too busy with real life to communicate effectively yet.
>> I vow to take Norway with a fleet; that's least threatening to Russia.
>
> Fleet London -> English Channel, Fleet Edinburgh -> North Sea, Army
>Liverpool -> Yorkshire, followed by Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Army
>Yorkshire -> Belgium is less threating, yet, but I take your point and would
>welcome an English Fleet in Norway.
Of course, Fleet London -> English Channel forces war with France, and I
have no idea if that is called for yet. Is that what you want? 8-)
> He's [France] definitely someone to watch, and be careful about turning
your back on.
He is so obviously a powerful player it would be nice if he could be made
to disappear. But that requires German help, and I still await Germany's
awakening. Maybe you can urge EG cooperation against France, once Germany
is ready to communicate with neighbors. An EG attack on France is very
time consuming, so you could be free from worries from the west for a long
time. On the other hand, if Germany doesn't start talking soon, I will
have no choice but to turn to an EF alliance. The third possibility, an FG
alliance, makes all of this moot of course.
>If we ever hear from Germany and Italy,
>and you want me to privately express my concern to them about the danger
>France poses to us all, let me know.
Italy has said he is reluctant to enter into early agression against
France. I've countered with the suggestion that Venice->Piedmont and
Rome->Venice is actually non-committal and is excellent defense and
potentially offensive in either direction, east or west. It needn't be
seen as immediate warfare against France, but could turn out that way. If
you wish to point out the danger of the French player to Italy, please feel
free to do so. Would he rather have France grow strong behind him or England?
Having said all of this, I still remain open to France as an ally. I need
clear German support before France is my enemy.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Russia to France
>Message from France
>
>I will be hiking and meditating in the French Alps.
I hope that you enjoy your hike, and that
your meditation brings the clarity you seek.
>I am willing to consult the hermit on your behalf.
I appreciate the offer, but doubt that my wife,
Alexandra, or "Our Friend", Rasputin, would approve.
Your friend,
Nicky.
Message from Russia to France
>Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>Let's keep an eye out for signs of a German-English
>alliance. That alliance always marks France and
>Russia as it's victims. We would need to work
>closely together.
England's early letters seemed to suggest a
preference to move South, rather than West, though
that could eaisly have been a message crafted for
my ears. The subsequent German silence has,
understandably, seemed to worry Ivy.
>From a philosophical point of view, would it make more sense for Russia,
>Germany, and France to work to eliminate England, or would Russia, England,
> and France be better suited to eliminate Germany. I was curious whether
>you had any thoughts on that,
>from a purely hypothetical point of view of course.
From a Russian theoretical perspective, it would
make more sense to eliminate England first. Doing so
would immediately open Norway to encorporation into
the EEU under Russian control and pull German forces
west, leaving Berlin and Munich exposed to Russian
takeover, and all German possessions sandwiched
between us. If England were to help us eliminate
Germany, English forces would be headed east, and be
poised on the Russian border once Germany was gone.
Additionally, the Witches' defensive strength becomes
difficult to breach once they reach six Centres.
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Italy to all
It is with great pride that I make the team of Fassa Bortolo my Tour de
France selection.
Life is Beautiful - as is the ride to Paris
Roberto
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali Baba ,
>Message from Turkey to Russia in 'titleist':
>I hope you will accept my heartfelt apologies that
>I didn't write sooner.
No apology is necessary. I certainly understand how
domestic concerns can interfere with foreign affairs.
>The first order of business, of course, is the disposition of the Black
>Sea, and of your southern fleet. There are three choices that come to
>mind: we could bounce in Bla, DMZ Bla, or if you're feeling adventurous, we
>could try something exotic such as the Slingshot. Myself, I think that the
>bounce is counter-productive for both of us.
The Slingshot certainly has advantages, but would
almost certainly be recognized at this level as an
attempt to conceal the Juggernaut. This, of course,
begs the question of how Powers at this level would
react to a Juggernaut. What do you think? Another
possibility would be to combine a Turkish Hedgehog
(Con-Bul, Smy-Arm, Ank-Con), with the Turkish Attack
variant of the Southern System (Sev-Bla, Mos-Sev,
StP-Bot, War-Ukr/Gal), and then Convoy Arm to Bul or
Rum in 1902. This would probably be the only way to
hide the Juggernaut.
>I'd like to hear more about how you envision a
>possible RT shaking out. Do you prefer the cloak & dagger, attempting to
>hide RT from the others until it's underway? Would you feel comfortable
>opening with an overt alliance?
I'm not sure. Conventional wisdom says that Ank-Con,
Sev C Smy-Vie in S'01 will result in AI & a Western
Triple all headed East, but the conventional wisdom
also says that the Juggernaut is much better for
Russia than it is for Turkey, and that's just not the
case as long as Russia builds in the North instead of
the South. If we play into the conventional wisdom,
though, and you tell everyone that once Austria's
gone, you intend to stab me, the West will probably
let us roll over Austria. Please let me know what you
think.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> Fleet London -> English Channel forces war with France, and I
> have no idea if that is called for yet. Is that what you want? 8-)
It could be argued that Lon-Eng was intended to give you influence
over Belgium, and that the "English" Channel IS English, after all, but
you're right that it would increase the likelyhood of EF conflict. Given
that Germany would join with one of you, and attack the other, and that
would mean his forces would be headed west, leaving him open to a
stab once France was eliminated, I do prefer that idea over you allying
with France and the two of you overrunning Germany and appearing
on my border in force.
> If you wish to point out the danger of the French player to Italy, please
> feel free to do so.
I'll mention my concern to both Germany and Italy.
> Having said all of this, I still remain open to France as an ally.
> I need clear German support before France is my enemy.
I do understand. Allying with someone who doesn't communicate is
counterproductive.
Nicky.
Message from Germany to all
I will adopt Team Deutsche Telekom and Jan Ullrich. Although my heart
will be with Lance again. We finally have live TV coverage here in
the US. On OLN (Outdoor life network) Finally there's a reason to pay
for cable TV.
Fred
> I imagine that Germany will be pulling for Team Deustche
> Telekom
Message from Russia to all
I'll take Rabobank since it starts with R. 8-)
Nicky.
Message [from Germany] to all
What can I say. Obviously I don't stand a chance. ;-)
My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
years. So my rating will probably sink even further.
I guess I'm just really bad at strategy.
> Rich Olver: 1271 JDPR. The underdog. :-) Normally, that rating is
> one of the top one or two in a game, but not here. Played 34 games,
> mostly no-press in recent years. Full-press wins in 'winooski' on USIN,
> 'vergenne' on USEF, and a 2WD in 'vgfp0008' on USVG in the first round.
> JDPR peaked at 1471, before the 1999 and 2000 Vermont Group no-press
> tournaments (which didn't go so well).
Message [from Russia] to all
> Broadcast message in 'titleist':
>
> My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
> years. So my rating will probably sink even further. I guess I'm just
> really bad at strategy.
No, that's not an accurate conclusion. My rating is pretty evenly
the result of my press ability and my strategy and tactics, but so far
I've lost four games in the 2001-VGNP. I did not lose because I
was outplayed, but because someone else did something stupid like
stabbing for a single Center, or failing to recognize that it was
necessary to form a "Stop the Leader" alliance, in spite of repeated
Convoys of his Armies to the Leader's capital. It doesn't matter how
well you play if the people near you do dumb things that hurt you and
help someone else.
Message [from Germany] to all
>
> > Broadcast message in 'titleist':
> >
> > My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
> > years. So my rating will probably sink even further. I guess I'm just
> > really bad at strategy.
>
> No, that's not an accurate conclusion. My rating is pretty evenly
> the result of my press ability and my strategy and tactics, but so far
> I've lost four games in the 2001-VGNP. I did not lose because I
> was outplayed, but because someone else did something stupid like
> stabbing for a single Center, or failing to recognize that it was
> necessary to form a "Stop the Leader" alliance, in spite of repeated
> Convoys of his Armies to the Leader's capital. It doesn't matter how
> well you play if the people near you do dumb things that hurt you and
> help someone else.
Oh don't get me started on my bad luck for neighbors. I swear this is
what happened one year. When I was Russia, Turkey opened to Armenia.
When I was Germany, England left himself WIDE open to France, and never
responded after being stabbed. When I was France, England made his 1st
build a fleet in Liverpool. When I was Austria, Italy opened to Trieste.
I will admit culpability though. I tend to trust people entirely too
much. In the NoPress tournaments there seems to be a lot of stabbing
going on just for the sake of the stab. I've never changed tactics to
match this. Guess I'm just too much of a nice guy. Note my two way
win. My partner didn't come through, so I guess it's ok to say that I
carried him over the finish line. I basically put a gun to his head and
said that he'll take the two way, my way. (Maybe I'm not that nice)
Message from Germany to Russia
Nicky:
How did you find out that there is a great deal of communication
between E and F? Your intelligence network must be vastly superior to
my own. Although I'll admit that I suspected as much (EF burning up the
Internet). But then that would be normal. My intentions is to be
minimal with my communications to these powers. Enough to let them know
that I'm around, but not enough to inadvertently contradict myself. Or
let them in on the secret that the Germans are a very obnoxious bunch.
;-)
As for Sweden, etc. I think I'll cover that with a broader brush in
this press. It's my opinion that for the German to win, he must get to
a corner. The SE corner is out of the question. That leaves the other
three. To get to one of the other three corners I have to fight
straight through either you, England, or France. The NE or NW corner
has been the favorite German target for most games. Both have
advantages and disadvantages. Russia is usually tied up in the south
with Austria and Turkey so that would make you a good target. However,
allying with Russia to kick england out of Norway usually weakens E
enough that an assault on the English island has a good chance for
success.
Let's continue our discussion through the first move. I don't see any
reason that we all can't keep talking right through that turn. I can't
imagine that someone is going to make a radical opening move.
I will say that I'll probably open to Denmark. That doesn't mean that
I intend to bounce you out of Sweden in the fall. I does mean that I
don't want to give England the opportunity to bounce me out of Denmark
in the fall. Opening to Holland does give me the opportunity to build
three the first year. But I'd rather not do that. I'd just as soon not
still my head up early on.
Freddy
Message from Austria to Russia
> The Turks are bound to attack one of our great nations in 1902 or '03,
If so, I must hope that it is yours!
Actually, your point is well-taken. Our strategic advisory council
suggests that Austria-Russia is a quite powerful alliance, and has urged
me to pursue that possibility. Accordingly, I suggest that we
cooperate.
An initial goal for such a joint effort would be the elimination of
Turkey, whichever of us he chooses to attack first. Would such a plan
hold any interest for you?
Sincerely,
Ralassa
Message from Austria to Russia
> I [...] hope that we can resolve the unrest in Galicia without
> conducting military operations there this Spring.
The Archduke shares that hope, but would not be averse to joint
military maneuvers there as a prelude to further cooperation.
So, do you have immediate need for your Warsaw army elsewhere? If
not, perhaps a bounce in Warsaw would make the proper impression on
our neighbors.
Ralassa
Message [from Austria] to all
> England may wish to adopt the American USPS team, as they
> share a common language.
surely you must be joking
Message [from Austria] to all
> Note my two way
> win. My partner didn't come through, so I guess it's ok to say that I
> carried him over the finish line. I basically put a gun to his head and
> said that he'll take the two way, my way.
dale didnt make it to the finals just you your better
than him right
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
>Given
>that Germany would join with one of you, and attack the other, and that
>would mean his forces would be headed west, leaving him open to a
>stab once France was eliminated, I do prefer that idea over you allying
>with France and the two of you overrunning Germany and appearing
>on my border in force.
Another advantage to you is that an eg attack on France draws my forces to
the south, whereas a French/English assault on Germany puts my forces in
Scandinavia. Also the attack on France takes much longer. So why does it
interest me? Same reason: I think that the French player is so good that I
just don't want to see him begin to grow. If we do manage to take out
France, and you thrive as well, there could be lots of opportunities for
the two of us to work together on a common project.
Anyhow, Germany is finally talking!
Ivy
Message from France to all
Well, that was an exciting opening to the First Stage of
the Tour de France. After opening ceremony, I was
distracted by an argument over whether the middleclass
truly has freedom. So I will reply on the following
excerpt from the offical royal coverage of the race:
Festina rider Christophe Moreau, winner of the
recent Dauphine Libere stage race, has stunned the
Tour de France by winning the prologue by an
outstanding three seconds. Defending champion
Lance Armstrong (USPS) finished the 8.2 kilometer
test just four seconds behind Moreau.
He went on to add that the Festina rider was helped when
a team mate grabbed a spoke from his wheel and poked
Lance Armstrong while he was making his move. I have
discounted this claim of course. It is not that I think
that there would be no stabbing going on, I think that
amounts to a minor fine. I just do not believe one can
remove spoke from a wheel at high speeds.
Well, with this first victory, my team Festina takes the
first points! Vivre la France! That does pose a dilema
however. If Festina wins, that means my sister wins a
date with my brother, the Dauphin. Well, I do not mind
punishing my brother like that, but my sister deserves
something better. Perhaps I can give the Dauphin too
much wine and send him off with the 90 year old chamber
maid who assists my sister.
Official Tally:
(note that I assigned teams to Austria and Turkey)
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 0 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 0 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
I will try to send more diplomacy related mail later
today after I do some mundane things like go hunting
(take a trip to the grocery store).
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to Germany
Freddy,
> How did you find out that there is a great deal of communication
> between E and F?
It is supposition on my part, but given that everyone has mentioned how
much press they are sending, it seems unlikely that they wouldn't be talking
to each other.
> As for Sweden, [...] for the German to win, he must get to
> a corner. Russia is usually tied up in the south with Austria and
> Turkey so that would make you a good target.
Of course, Germany attempting to reach St. Petersburg with England and
France still strong, invites them to visit Kiel and Munich...
> allying with Russia to kick england out of Norway usually weakens E
> enough that an assault on the English island has a good chance for
> success.
I'm willing to consider this, of course.
> I can't imagine that someone is going to make a radical opening move.
Radical? No. Aggressive? Possibly. I would not be surprised to see a
Fleet try for the English Channel, an Italian Army in Piedmont or Tyrolia, a
Turkish Army in Armenia, or French Armies in Burgundy and Picardy. (You
will not see a Russian Army in Silesia, however. That crosses the line from
agressive to foolish, in my opinion.)
> I will say that I'll probably open to Denmark. That doesn't mean that
> I intend to bounce you out of Sweden in the fall. It does mean that I
> don't want to give England the opportunity to bounce me out of Denmark
> in the fall.
By extension then, you shouldn't risk Den - Swe in the Fall, since
Den-Swe, Nth-Den, Bot-Bal, is even worse for you than getting bounced out of
Den in the Fall.
> Opening to Holland does give me the opportunity to build
> three the first year. But I'd rather not do that. I'd just as soon
> not stick my head up early on.
Understandable, but Kie-Hol also lets you support France or England into
Bel, and solidify an alliance. (Just a thought.) I will certainly attempt
to keep the lines of communication open throughout 1901, and beyond.
Nicky.
Message from Russia to Austria
Ralassa,
> Message from Austria to Russia in 'titleist':
> Our strategic advisory council suggests that Austria-Russia is
> a quite powerful alliance, [...] I suggest that we cooperate.
Excellent!
> An initial goal for such a joint effort would be the elimination of
> Turkey, whichever of us he chooses to attack first. Would such
> a plan hold any interest for you?
Yes, that is why I raised the spectre of a Turkish attack upon us
in my first letter. If the Turk is to be eliminated, it is best done early.
> > I [...] hope that we can resolve the unrest in Galicia without
> > conducting military operations there this Spring.
>
> The Archduke shares that hope, but would not be averse to joint
> military maneuvers there as a prelude to further cooperation.
No, there is an obvious benefit to joint-training exercises,
particularly if they are not announced to our neighbors beforehand.
> So, do you have immediate need for your Warsaw army elsewhere?
Well, by moving into the Ukraine in the Spring, the Warsaw Guards would
be positioned to occupy Rumania in the Fall as part of the Turkish Attack
Variant of the Southern System, but that's just one possibility.
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Another advantage to you is that an eg attack on France draws my forces
> to the south, whereas a French/English assault on Germany puts my forces
> in Scandinavia.
True. It also allows you to try to break into the Med as we pressure
Germany together, once France falls..
> Also the attack on France takes much longer.
Not if you/we can convince Italy to send a Unit or two west. EIR has
potential, I think.
> If we do manage to take out France, and you thrive as well, there could
> be lots of opportunities for the two of us to work together
Agreed. There was a recent article in the DipPouch that discussed
stable two-ways. I was surprised to see that there were several possible
for England and Russia. I had always thought that the "St. Petersburg
Question" would make that difficult if not impossible, but I am glad to see
that that is not the case.
Nicky.
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
"A Slow Start for Team Robobank"
> Well, that was an exciting opening to the First Stage of the Tour de
France.
> Official Tally:
> Russia (Robobank): 0 points
It was learned today that the members of Team Robobank were delayed by
Union Steward V. I. Lenin, who was attempting to explain the benefits that
unionization would present to both bank workers and bicyclists. Union
Steward Lenin has been encouraged to attempt to unionize other teams before
the next stage, and to speak with Team Robobank only after the stage has
been completed.
Message from Germany to Russia
> > As for Sweden, [...] for the German to win, he must get to
> > a corner. Russia is usually tied up in the south with Austria and
> > Turkey so that would make you a good target.
>
> Of course, Germany attempting to reach St. Petersburg with England and
> France still strong, invites them to visit Kiel and Munich...
Tell me about it.
> > I can't imagine that someone is going to make a radical opening move.
>
> Radical? No. Aggressive? Possibly. I would not be surprised to see a
> Fleet try for the English Channel, an Italian Army in Piedmont or Tyrolia, a
> Turkish Army in Armenia, or French Armies in Burgundy and Picardy. (You
> will not see a Russian Army in Silesia, however. That crosses the line from
> agressive to foolish, in my opinion.)
Likewise I have no plans for going to Prussia or Silesia this turn.
Freddy
Message from Russia to Germany
Freddy,
> > You will not see a Russian Army in Silesia
> Likewise I have no plans for going to Prussia or Silesia this turn.
Would you care to formalize this understanding? Say, ...
"No Russian or German Unit will move, or attempt to move, to Bal, Pru, or
Sil in 1901, 1902 or 1903. Russia will not interfere with German occupation
of Denmark, nor will Germany interfere with Russian occupation of Sweden.
This DMZ can be extended in time and/or provinces through mutual agreement
in 1903."
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Austria to Russia
> Well, by moving into the Ukraine in the Spring, the Warsaw Guards
> would be positioned to occupy Rumania in the Fall as part of the Turkish
> Attack Variant of the Southern System, but that's just one possibility.
Should Turkey bounce you from the Black Sea in the spring, I think a
Ukraine army would be better used in supporting the Sevastopol fleet to
Rumania. That would allow you to build a second fleet in Sevastopol.
If you wanted to build that second fleet, then Mos-Sev would be
counterproductive. So Moscow could easily be the army which moves to
Ukraine, leaving Warsaw free to bounce in Galicia, giving our opponents
the impression that we were at war. Or, Warsaw could move to Silesia,
giving Germany fits. Finally, if you preferred to give England fits, a
northern opening (Moscow - St. Petersburg in spring) could be accompanied
by War-Ukr.
Please let me know which you prefer; I am comfortable with any of these.
Ralassa
Message from Germany to Russia
> Message from Russia to Germany in 'titleist':
>
> Freddy,
>
> > > You will not see a Russian Army in Silesia
> > Likewise I have no plans for going to Prussia or Silesia this turn.
>
> Would you care to formalize this understanding? Say, ...
> "No Russian or German Unit will move, or attempt to move, to Bal, Pru, or
> Sil in 1901, 1902 or 1903. Russia will not interfere with German occupation
> of Denmark, nor will Germany interfere with Russian occupation of Sweden.
> This DMZ can be extended in time and/or provinces through mutual agreement
> in 1903."
>
> Czar Nicholas II.
Actually, I don't put much stock in formal agreements. They're worth
about as much as they're written on.
I realize that I'm being coy here. But it's the start of the game and
we're feeling each other out, and getting to know one another.
I realize that many people play with game by looking for the opportunity
to stab someone. I rarely play that way. Although it's probably
inevitable that we'll all have to stab in the endgame. But because so
many people are liars, I like to play it loose through the early game,
and see who does what they say. Or who will say what they're going to
do. In this case we're both stated a move that we're not going to
make. Let's see if we really do that. Next turn, we'll see again.
Perhaps we can exchange something besides what we're not going to do.
Frederick MCMIIIII
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Well, I have received meaningful letters from everyone now, though
England and France continue to be winning the battle for press frequency.
Given Germany's late start, I have been pretty free in expressing my concern
to England about France's natural advantages, and Prince Boar's obvious
skill with a pen. He seems to agree with my evaluation, but is
understandably hesitant to commit to an attack without support from Germany.
I floated the possibility of EIR to Ivy without suggesting that our
relationship is particularly close. Opening Ven-Pie might be all it would
take to get England to commit, and an EF war would be to both our
advantages, I think. What you do with Army Venice is, of course, your
decision, though.
The Austrian Ambassador has finally arrived in St. Petersburg, and I am
favorably impressed. (Particularly since the Archduke has been so
unimpressive.) The Austrian Ambassador and I are discussing a possible
attack on Turkey, but I have not, and do not plan to, mention you. Better
that the Archduke thinks he has two separate allies against Turkey than that
there is an AIR vs. T arrangement. Ali Baba and I are, of course,
discussing the possibility of a Juggernaut, but frankly, I feel the risks
outweigh the benefits. Frederick of Germany says he plans to respond to the
barrage of press from EF largely with silence, which I do not understand,
but we are discussing Sweden, and I am hopeful that he will not oppose
Sweden joining the EEU under Russian protection. How does this match up
with what you are hearing?
In Friendship,
Nicky.
Message from Russia to Germany
Freddy,
> Actually, I don't put much stock in formal agreements.
That's unfortunate.
> it's the start of the game and we're feeling each other
> out, and getting to know one another.
Yes, and it seems that you are steadfastly refusing to commit on the
smallest issues. I find that troubling, so I will directly address the
question. Will you allow my Fleet to assume control of Sweden in F1901, or
will you oppose that action? If you are opposed, what can I do to change
your mind? If you are undecided, what can I do to encourage you to decide
in my favor?
> because so many people are liars, I like to play it loose through the
early game,
> and see who does what they say. Or who will say what they're going to do.
Perhaps I'm too honest, but at this level I expect that people will tell
as much of the truth as possible, and lie only when neccessary to achieve a
specific objective. Since it does not make sense for Germany and Russia to
come into conflict in the opening, we have no reason to lie to one another,
and every reason to cooperate where possible.
> In this case we're both stated a move that we're not going to
> make. Let's see if we really do that. Next turn, we'll see again.
> Perhaps we can exchange something besides what we're not going to do.
To be successful, I think we have to look beyond the current turn. If
you think you might need my assistance against England, then Mos-StP would
be appropriate this Spring. If you believe you are more likely to come into
conflict with France, then Mos-StP would be counter-productive.
Nicky.
Message from Russia to Austria
> Should Turkey bounce you from the Black Sea in the spring, I think a
> Ukraine army would be better used in supporting the Sevastopol fleet to
> Rumania. That would allow you to build a second fleet in Sevastopol.
Yes, what happens in the Fall will, of course, depend on the Spring, and
I do understand that you would prefer a Fleet in Rumania to an Army. I do
realize that I have many openings available to me, and I have not yet
decided which to use. If you feel there would be an advantage to the
appearance of conflict in Galicia, I'm willing to order War-Gal, but since
our target is Turkey, I think moving that way would be better. The "Turkish
Attack" is wonderful if Turkey open Ank-Con, but a problem otherwise, so my
choice of opening will depend on my sense of his intentions, and what the
situation in Scandinavia seems to require. Any information you can provide
on those subjects would be much appreciated.
Czar Nicholas II
Message from Germany to Russia
I haven't decided whether to bounce you out of Sweden in the fall yet.
(And I haven't given it a lot of thought yet. My concern is EF)
Primarily because you didn't answer my question as to what you'd do with
that build if you got it. So you see we're both playing this the
same way. Neither of us wants to give away our hands yet, or commit to
something which will look bad in the future.
For your part I imagine that you don't really want to say where you'll
put that build because of your ongoing negotiations in the south. If
they bear fruit, you won't need a build down there, and you can begin to
think about Norway. (It's possible that MOS - STP, but I'd have to say
highly unlikely. It leaves you too open on your southern border. If
Turkey opens to Armenia you'll be in a heap of trouble.)
Frederick
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
>From a Russian theoretical perspective, it would
>make more sense to eliminate England first.
I see your point. England is difficult to eliminate,
especially once she gets too large. But any country can
be eliminated in the medium range (6-8 centers), some
just take more work, hence more time. Time may not
always be a luxury that we can afford.
No matter which way things go, France wants to work with
Russia in the early game. I see three options, FRG
eliminating England, FRE eliminating Germany, or FR
defending ourselves against EG. I prefer one of the
first two, obviously. But I am not ready to choose one
over the other. I think that it will depend on how
things go. But keep me apprised on how you see things.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 1 Results:
With a perfectly timed sprint, German Sprinter Erik Zabel
wins the first Stage of the Tour de France. (Note that
yesterday's race was the Prologue.)
This gives 10 points to Germany and puts Zabel as the
favorite to win the Green Jersey (best sprinter).
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 10 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 0 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Christophe Moreau (FES) 5 hrs 4 min 35 secs
2. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :03 secs
3. Lance Armstrong (USPS) :04
5. Jan Ullrich (TEL) :07
6. Florent Brard (FES) :07
10. Joseba Beloki (ONC) :13
Message from Russia to Germany
>Message from Germany to Russia in 'titleist':
>I haven't decided whether to bounce you out of Sweden
>in the fall yet. Primarily because you didn't answer
>my question as to what you'd do with that build if
>you got it.
Ah, ok, fair enough. It's difficult to predict
which Centers will be open for builds, since I haven't
decided on an Opening, but if you want help against
England, I'm willing to use the Swedish supplies to build
F StP/NC, (or A StP, if you prefer), or build in Mos/Sev,
and head south, if you don't want the help, or are allied
with England against France.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from England to all
To: diplomats far and wide.
From: Ivy Wingo
The identify Ivy Wingo contest is over. Amazingly, the winner prefers to
remain anonymous! Since I don't yet want to antagonize any of our good
fellows, I must respect this shy man's request. However, if he ever
performs a dasterdly deed I shall expose him without remorse.
Ivy Wingo was a catcher for the St. Louis Cardinals and Cincinnati Reds. I
chose the name only because I was fond of its wacky sound. It was tempting
to go with the even wackier Van Lingle Mungo, but that player has already
been celebrated in song.
Now for the prize. The prize is Belgium. The winner, although
unidentified, is free to travel to Belgium to make his claim. He may wish
travel afloat, but a land route would be quicker. I am sure that my good
friends Prince Boar and/or Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request.
What's this I hear? I can't believe my ears. "We don't need no stinkin'
visas!"
Well, what ever happened to civility? And I thought I was playing with
gentlemen. It is indeed best that this rogue not be known by name. But
beware the snake who crawls into Belgium.
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
> Not if you/we can convince Italy to send a Unit or two west. EIR has
>potential, I think.
Hmmm. EIR. I like the possibilities here. Each of the other four powers
is bounded by two of us, and we can work together to control them. What is
really needed to make this work is conflict, or at least deep mistrust,
between Turkey and Austria. Once one of these two is weakened, you and
Italy can handle the eastern situation easily.
I guess it goes without saying that if you and Turkey began by plowing into
Austria, then Italy (heck, the entire world) would be very wary of the
situation. We've discussed western possibilities enough that I feel free
to throw in my two cents here. I would much rather see you and Austria
begin by taking on Turkey, than you and Turkey taking on Austria.
I do understand that one has to find a friend whereever one finds a friend.
That's why, even at this point, that I cannot rule out some sort of EF
partnership. It's not my preference, though.
So let's talk up friendship with Italy. He can help both of us.
Ivy
Message from Austria to Russia
> If you feel there would be an advantage to the appearance of conflict
> in Galicia, I'm willing to order War-Gal
The Archduke is rather fond of an American game called "poker". In it,
deceptions are sometimes carried out for no better reason than to ensure
that one's opponents are unsure whether some later action is a
deception. That is not necessarily of benefit here, and some of his
advisors are recommending against letting such thinking get out of hand.
Nevertheless, I am commissioned to present the Archduke's policies in
their best available light.
His idea, as I understand it, is that if your Warsaw army has no direct
tactical advantage to gain by a successful move, then there are clear
strategic advantages to the bounce in Galicia. It will reassure Germany
that you have a conflict in the south, making him more likely to permit
you free access to Sweden. It will reassure Italy that Austria-Hungary
has a conflict to her east, freeing him to roam further from his
homeland. It may reassure Turkey enough that he'll make moves which
aren't the strongest against a Russian-led assault, in order to be
better positioned against a possible AI alliance.
If your fleet succeeds in getting to the Black Sea, then my Serbian army
will be able and willing to support Bla-Bul, while the Moscow forces in
Ukraine take Rumania. That will leave Turkey without a build, while you
will have at least two, three if Germany allows you into Sweden. One of
those builds can be a new southern fleet, giving you two fleets to
Turkey's one, so that you can eliminate him quickly.
If your fleet is bounced from the Black Sea, then your move of Mos-Ukr
and War-Gal lets you explain to Turkey that your Black Sea move was
defensive, and you're really not after him. Now Turkey has to decide
what home center to leave vacant for the build. Assuming he's not most
concerned about the Russian threat, he's likely to order Ank-Con,
Smy-Ank to leave Smy available for the outside fleet build. Thus, when
you order Sev-Rum rather than Ukr-Rum, and build a second southern
fleet, he has no defense against that fleet's entry into the Black Sea,
and you and I can proceed to eliminate him.
If you proceed in the most straightforward way, then he can blockade
you, at the cost of leaving himself wide open to Italy. That, in turn,
would leave us dependent on Italy to aid in his elimination. While
that's not hopeless, it seems a less certain path than one which uses
the small deception of a bounce in Galicia to set up a quicker takedown
of the Ottomans.
If you can let me know your thinking on this matter, I will try to do a
thorough job of explaining it to the Archduke.
Ralassa, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Italy to Russia
I owe you a message but it has been a hectic day at work today. I hope to
be able to send something out tomorrow. Didn't want you thinking I was
ignoring you.
Roberto
Message from France to all
Sorry, this will be brief. I still need to catch up on
my other mail.
Tour de France Stage 2 Results:
After riding in a break of 16 for the last 20 kilometers
Rabobank rider Marc Wauters took the victory in Stage 2
of the 2001 Tour de France today. The expected contenders
for the overall victory--Moreau, defending champion Lance
Armstrong and Jan Ullrich--all survived the day without
incident.
This gives 10 points to Russia and puts Wauters in the
Yellow Jersey. Can he hold on for the Tour de France
victory? Time will tell.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 10 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Marc Wauters (RAB) 9 hours 40 minutes 17 seconds
3. Servais Knaven (DFF) @ :27
4. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :27
9. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :30
11. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :31
12. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :34
13. Florent Brard (FES) @ :34
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
>I am sure that my good friends Prince Boar and/or
>Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request
I would gladly issue Visas for the winner to travel to
Belgium. Simply pass through Munich and Ruhr and
everything will be just fine.
> Go Team O.N.C.E!
>Doug
That's the spirit!
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to all
> Rabobank rider Marc Wauters took the victory in Stage 2
> of the 2001 Tour de France today. This gives 10 points
> to Russia and puts Wauters in the Yellow Jersey. Can he
> hold on for the Tour de France victory? Time will tell.
Marc, Marc, he's our man, if he can't do it, well then
Lance can! (The United States Postal Service is unionized,
after all.)
V. I. Lenin,
European Union Steward for Russia.
Message from Russia to France
> England is difficult to eliminate, especially
> once she gets too large. But any country
> can be eliminated in the medium range
Yes, but England and Turkey are especially difficult to eliminate,
indeed probably the most difficult to eliminate, if it's not done early.
(The fact that I'm sandwiched between them may influence my opinion,
slightly...8-)
> keep me apprised on how you see things.
Germany seems to be playing (or at least, negotiating) cautiously.
This, along with England's corner position, makes me view England as the
bigger threat, at the moment. Would you care to share your appraisal of the
Eastern Powers?
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
I understand your point. England is a difficult bird to
crack once she gets too big. And perhaps he is the
greater danger. I will certainly keep that in mind as
things progress. You opinion may change as you see what
Germany does about Denmark in the Fall. Let's continue
to keep an open dialogue, hoping to avoid making the
opposite choice and cause problems for ourselves.
My assessment of the Eastern powers? Well, Italy is
trying to be flaking, but I suspect that he is competent
and has friends in Sicily that will cut your throat if
you so much as look away. Other than that he seems like
a nice guy. I have heard essentially nothing from
Turkey, so I do not know about him. Austria may be the
easiest prey, but I do not know if you would then prefer
to keep him around and focus on the dangerous ones. Do
you want to go for the corners at both ends of the world
and weed out your long term threats? The only thing that
I do know is that Italy and Austria seem to be getting
along OK.
-- Prince Boar
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Negotiations Diploman, things seem to heating up, but so far the
negotiations have been slow.
DM> Yes, Boy Gambit, things have been a bit slow.
BG> But one guy rambles on about unions, another goes on and on about a bike
race, and a third says nothing but blahs. Don't they know there is a game of
Diplomacy going on?
DM> Well, relationships take time to build. Besides, some people insist on
taking all the time allotted.
BG> Well, myself and the other observers are falling asleep here. I wish that
they would just get on with it.
DM> Be patient Boy Gambit. You know that we must be ever vigilant to seek out
the betrayer, the liar, the stabber and bring them to justice. That is our
role.
BG>ZZZZZZZzzzzz
Message from Russia to France
>I understand your point. England is a difficult bird to crack once she
>gets too big. And perhaps he is the
>greater danger.
Rest assured, I'm not trying to imply that you
HAVE to attack England for us to cooperate, or even
that I feel you SHOULD attack Ivy. You asked a
hypothetical question regarding my preference
regarding your first target, and I've attempted to
lay out the reasons why I feel it makes more sense
for you to attack England first. That is all.
>Do you want to go for the corners at both ends?
If we could accomplish this, it would make meeting
in the middle a much more straight-forward process. :-)
Nick.
Message from Turkey to all
My fellow conspirators,
I have been having ISP problems that have prevented me from replying to
press, and in some cases prevented me from receiving them. I am using
alternate methods to get this message through. The scoundrels that formerly
provided these so-called "services" have been executed and replaced, and our
communications centre will be in full operating status by this evening. If
you have sent anything to me in the last few days, please re-send.
Apologies for this untimely inconvenience.
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Russia
Czar Nicholas,
Thank you for your reply. Sorry for the delay in my response; I've had
trouble with my communications apparatus. Anyway, down to business.
> The Slingshot certainly has advantages, but would
> almost certainly be recognized at this level as an
> attempt to conceal the Juggernaut. This, of course,
> begs the question of how Powers at this level would
> react to a Juggernaut. What do you think?
That was the main reason I asked whether you'd be open to an overt RT
alliance. I expect that the Slingshot would be recognized right away. The
main thing I like about it is that it effectively deals with the issue of
your southern fleet, which can often be a thorn in the side of RT relations
down the road, and it gives you another army, thereby greatly improving your
position in the center.
> Another
> possibility would be to combine a Turkish Hedgehog
> (Con-Bul, Smy-Arm, Ank-Con), with the Turkish Attack
> variant of the Southern System (Sev-Bla, Mos-Sev,
> StP-Bot, War-Ukr/Gal), and then Convoy Arm to Bul or
> Rum in 1902. This would probably be the only way to
> hide the Juggernaut.
That could work. Offhand my concern would be that I'd need to defend both
home centers this fall, meaning my fleet couldn't get out to Aeg, which is
one of the compelling arguments in favor of Ank-Con. Also I think a Turkish
landing in Rum would only be temporary, as Rum must clearly be a Russian
centre in the long term.
> I'm not sure. Conventional wisdom says that Ank-Con,
> Sev C Smy-Vie in S'01 will result in AI & a Western
> Triple all headed East, but the conventional wisdom
> also says that the Juggernaut is much better for
> Russia than it is for Turkey, and that's just not the
> case as long as Russia builds in the North instead of
> the South.
Hm, I don't think I'm following you here. A western triple would imply F/I
conflict, which would be welcome. Indeed, I think if an EF alliance were to
form, they would likely welcome an RT, since Germany, Austria and Italy
would be quickly crushed between hammer and anvil.
I don't agree that RT favors Russia over Turkey, at least as long as the
southern fleet question can be resolved. In my experience, once that's done
we've both got good avenues for growth as well as good mutual security. I
also think that Russia benefits from not having to choose between North and
South, but instead focuses on opposing Austria and Germany for the center.
Of course, I defer to your greater judgement on how Russian interests can
best be served.
> If we play into the conventional wisdom,
> though, and you tell everyone that once Austria's
> gone, you intend to stab me, the West will probably
> let us roll over Austria. Please let me know what you
> think.
My sense is that conventional wisdom is of limited use. For one thing, some
of my best successes have come from bucking "conventional wisdom". For
another, I expect that we've got an exceptional group of players here, and
conventional wisdom may not even apply. From what I've seen, I'm not the
only one looking for a unique or unexpected approach.
I again apologize for my untimely (yet unavoidable) silence. I'm eager to
get our conversation going in full force, so that we can open without any
misunderstandings. It seems at present that neither of us is comfortable
with the other controlling the Black in the opening move. I will consider
your proposal in greater depth when I am able, but off the bat it makes me a
bit uncomfortable. If we cannot come to some such agreement, do you favor a
bounce in Bla or DMZ there?
Looking forward to your reply,
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Russia
Czar Nicholas,
Sorry, I realized I didn't quite answer your question here:
> If we play into the conventional wisdom,
> though, and you tell everyone that once Austria's
> gone, you intend to stab me, the West will probably
> let us roll over Austria. Please let me know what you
> think.
I agree this is a promising approach. Particularly, if we can arrange ITR
cooperation against Austria, then I might convince Italy I'll attack you
next. If some conflict erupts in the Western triangle, as seems likely,
then you're right that Austria would probably receive little help.
My concern then, of course, might be an IR effort to eliminate Turkey.
However, I'm confident that by that time I'll have convinced you that I'm
the more worthy ally.
Ali Baba
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 3 Results:
Erik Zabel (Telekom) proved again
why he's been the winner of the
Tour's green jersey for best
sprinter five times as he blew
through an uphill sprint at the end
of today's stage Seen at
the front of the race in the late
going were defending Tour champ
Lance Armstrong (USPS), and
hopefuls Jan Ullrich (Telekom) and
Christophe Moreau.
I thought that the TdF was a long haul race and not one
for sprinters. But it looks like a sprinter is stealing
the show for now. Can Zabel avoid the early leader
syndrom and not have all the other powers conspiring to
beat him down! Emperor Frederick best watch out. This
may work against him :-)
This gives 10 more points to Germany and likely sets him
up for 20 more points for the Green Jersey.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.)14-hours 15-minutes 44-seconds
2. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :17-seconds
5. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :20
7. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :21
8. Erik Zabel (TEL) @ :23
9. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :24
10. Florent Brard (FES) @ :24
12. Joseba Beloki (ONC) @ :30
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
I am sorry. I did not mean to imply that you were
speaking in a way other than hypotheticaly. I was
speaking in that manner as well.
Some more hypothetical talk for you. If France were to
join an RFG alliance to eliminate the which in the
corner, we would want to make certain that Germany is
firmly on board. We have not gotten the feeling that
Germany strongly wants to work with France. In that
case, we would hypothetical, and naturally, lean towards
working with England. In such a possible FGR future, we
may have to count on you to help convince the German, and
then convince me of his sincerity.
On a related note. What happened to your man in
Robobank? He puts on the Yellow Jersey and then he falls
off the face of the earth? Does Lenin have him out
canvassing for Union rights amoung the spectators? Those
wooden signs draped over his front and back must really
slow him down!
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to all
Major thunderstorm fried my modem. The replacement is working, finally,
but it's late, and I'm annoyed, so I'll try to contact everyone tomorrow.
Russia.
Message from Germany to all
It's that one two punch. Or is that a one-a and a two-a?
Zabel will win more stages and the green jersey. In the mountains we
have Ullrich. Can Team Telekom be stopped? Time will tell.
> I thought that the TdF was a long haul race and not one
> for sprinters. But it looks like a sprinter is stealing
> the show for now. Can Zabel avoid the early leader
> syndrom and not have all the other powers conspiring to
> beat him down! Emperor Frederick best watch out. This
> may work against him :-)
>
> This gives 10 more points to Germany and likely sets him
> up for 20 more points for the Green Jersey.
Message from Russia to Turkey
> Message from Turkey to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> Thank you for your reply. Sorry for the delay in my response; I've had
> trouble with my communications apparatus.
It seems to be spreading... 8-(
> That could work. Offhand my concern would be that I'd need to defend both
> home centers this fall, meaning my fleet couldn't get out to Aeg, which is
> one of the compelling arguments in favor of Ank-Con.
I do agree that the Slingshot greatly increases your security, and as long
as I build Armies and you build Fleets, the stab potential between us is
minimized. The only real advantages of the Turkish Attack/Hedgehog are
that no-one is going to suspect we're allied, and it gets your Fleet to the
Aegean in F1901, short-circuiting the Lepanto. This does assume that you
trust me enough to move Con-Aeg with my Fleet in Bla, but given that
A Arm, A Bul, A Ser, and F Con could cooperate to take Rum in F'01,
that trust question really goes both ways.
> I think a Turkish landing in Rum would only be temporary, as Rum must
> clearly be a Russian centre in the long term.
Actually, if we want to extend the Juggeraut to its natural conclusion, the
Balkans, Austria, Italy, Tun, Mar and Iberia would be yours, while Germany,
Scandinavia, Engand, the Low Countries, Par and Bre would be mine, but
Rum and Por are flexible.
> Hm, I don't think I'm following you here. A western triple would imply
F/I
> conflict, which would be welcome.
Welcome for you, certainly, but I'd find myself facing EG in Scandinavia,
something I'm hoping to avoid. 8-)
> I don't agree that RT favors Russia over Turkey,
I don't either, actually, but most of the articles seem to think so. It is
certainly possible for Russia to demand large chucks of Austria, and
choke off Turkey growth/expansion path, but it seems rather pointless
to try to arrange an RT and then do that.
> It seems at present that neither of us is comfortable with the other
> controlling the Black in the opening move. I will consider your
> proposal in greater depth when I am able, but it makes me a
> bit uncomfortable. If we cannot come to some such agreement,
> do you favor a bounce in Bla or DMZ there?
I'm not ruling out the Slingshot. I thought you were looking for a
way to conceal the RT, and didn't feel the Slingshot would do so,
and offered an alternative that would.
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Czar Nicholas,
> I do agree that the Slingshot greatly increases your security, and as long
> as I build Armies and you build Fleets, the stab potential between us is
> minimized. The only real advantages of the Turkish Attack/Hedgehog are
> that no-one is going to suspect we're allied, and it gets your Fleet to
the
> Aegean in F1901, short-circuiting the Lepanto. This does assume that you
> trust me enough to move Con-Aeg with my Fleet in Bla, but given that
> A Arm, A Bul, A Ser, and F Con could cooperate to take Rum in F'01,
> that trust question really goes both ways.
Yes, I realize that any such "exotic" opening will likely involve some
amount of trust on both sides. One thing that you didn't address was what
ultimately becomes of your southern fleet. Are you reluctant to lose it?
Please let me know your feelings on the matter; as I said, it's one of the
reasons the slingshot appeals to me so much.
> Actually, if we want to extend the Juggeraut to its natural conclusion,
the
> Balkans, Austria, Italy, Tun, Mar and Iberia would be yours, while
Germany,
> Scandinavia, Engand, the Low Countries, Par and Bre would be mine, but
> Rum and Por are flexible.
I suppose this is true, in the long run. To be honest I hadn't thought that
far ahead. I do think that in the near term, at least, it's not realistic
for me to own Rum since it borders a Russian home center. But of course,
we'll have a fair bit of flexibility going forward, and we can certainly
trade centers to keep an even balance.
> Welcome for you, certainly, but I'd find myself facing EG in Scandinavia,
> something I'm hoping to avoid. 8-)
Yes, true story. For what it's worth, France seems to be quite concerned
that his border with Italy is peaceful. This probably means he's planning
to attack either E or G, which would certainly take pressure off
Scandinavia. And, as I mentioned, if an EF turns up it'll be good news all
around.
> I don't either, actually, but most of the articles seem to think so. It
is
> certainly possible for Russia to demand large chucks of Austria, and
> choke off Turkey growth/expansion path, but it seems rather pointless
> to try to arrange an RT and then do that.
Actually, I see you owning all of Austria save Trieste. As you know, I
foresee Russian strength in the center, and my expansion route would mainly
be through sea lanes.
> I'm not ruling out the Slingshot. I thought you were looking for a
> way to conceal the RT, and didn't feel the Slingshot would do so,
> and offered an alternative that would.
I'm not necessarily that worried about hiding the RT. My main interests are
in finding a solution for the southern Russian fleet, and building an overt
RT. The slingshot becomes a different strategic move once you assume it
will be recognized. The fact that it will likely be recognized probably
gives Russia a bit more security, since an apparent RT pretty well rules out
any Turkish alliances with Austria or Italy.
In any case it isn't the only choice. I'm still curious about how you feel
about losing the southern fleet, or what you foresee doing with it if it
isn't converted to an army. Also, what are your feelings on whether to come
out in the open or try to hide our alliance? You seem to be favoring
"hide"... is this true?
Looking forward to your reply,
Ali Baba
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 3 Results:
Official Report:
Former UCI #1 rider Laurent Jalabert (CSC), proved to be
too strong for breakaway partner Ludo Dierckxens (Lampre)
as he took the two-man sprint to win the 215-kilometer
fourth stage of the 2001 Tour de France from Huy to
Verdun.
Aussie Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) managed to keep his the
yellow leader's jersey that he won yesterday, despite a
number of serious breakaways thoughout the day. Defending
champ Lance Armstrong (USPS) stayed clear of trouble and
is still in a good position to vie for a third
consecutive win.
Prince Boar's commentary:
I wonder why they keep talking about Lance And Jan
Ullrich as favorites when they cannot manage to even
break into the top 5. Perhaps when the road gets tough
in the Pyrenees. It is clear that Moreau of Team Festina
is the true favorite! :-)
Atleast a new great power gather some points as the
Turks' team, CSC takes the stage! Congratulations to Ali
Baba.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 10 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) 19-hours 32-minutes 49-seconds
3. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :23
5. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :26
7. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :27
8. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :30
9. Florent Brard (FES) @ :30
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to Russia
Nik:
We should know more after the opening move. The place that I'm
watching is the Channel. Naturally as in all games everyone is
friends with everyone else, but we'll see what the real moves have to
say. I listen to them more than what anyone says.
To reiterate, I'm not heading east.
Freddy.
>
> Ah, ok, fair enough. It's difficult to predict
> which Centers will be open for builds, since I haven't
> decided on an Opening, but if you want help against
> England, I'm willing to use the Swedish supplies to build
> F StP/NC, (or A StP, if you prefer), or build in Mos/Sev,
> and head south, if you don't want the help, or are allied
> with England against France.
>
> Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
> One thing that you didn't address was what ultimately becomes of your
> southern fleet. Are you reluctant to lose it
Ummm, as far as I know, the Attack/Hedgehog combo has never been
tried as a Juggernaut cover, so I'm making this up as I go along. 8-) I
suppose the most logical thing to do with F Sev would be to send it to
Con in S'02 or S'03, and then into the Med for a speed run to the Atlantic,
or to have it act as a virtual-proxy to you, and support your expansion into
the Med. I'm not reluctant to trade F Sev in for A War or F StP/NC, but
I am a little concerned about announcing the Juggernaut in S1901M thru
F Sev - Arm. That's likely to result in a Lepanto in the Med, Germany
bouncing me out of Swe in F'01, and early EG pressure on StP. We
could easily find ourselves bogged down trying to eliminate Austria and
get you into Ion while the West resolves itself. Please don't misunderstand
me, though, I'm NOT saying, 'It's my way or the highway!', or that I refuse
to consider the Slingshot. I'm just offering what I think would be a good
alternative, since it obscures the Juggernaut.
> Actually, I see you owning all of Austria save Trieste. As you know, I
> foresee Russian strength in the center, and my expansion route would
> mainly be through sea lanes.
Initially that almost certainly the way it will be true, but if we
eliminate
A, and I start to expand into Germany and Scandinavia, we will probably
have to shift Austrian Centres to you since there are 8 Centres in G/Scan,
and only 4 in Italy.
> The slingshot becomes a different strategic move once you assume it
> will be recognized.
You don't think it's likely to result in a Lepanto and pressure on StP?
> what are your feelings on whether to come out in the open or try to
> hide our alliance? You seem to be favoring "hide"... is this true?
That seems to be the side I'm coming down on, yes. I think the
Slingshot would eliminate any chance I have of getting Swe, and greatly
increase the likelihood of early pressure on StP; while forcing us to deal
with a solid AI and a Lepanto. Do you see it otherwise?
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
> If France were to join an RFG alliance to eliminate
> the witch in the corner, we would want to make
> certain that Germany is firmly on board. We have
> not gotten the feeling that Germany strongly wants
> to work with France.
Frederick seems determined to avoid making
promises or commitments before Fall 1901. I would
not blame you for allying with Ivy, though that is,
I think, more risky for both of us.
> In such a possible FGR future, we may have to count
> on you to help convince the German, and then
> convince me of his sincerity.
I have had very little luck, so far, in
convincing Germany to do, or not do, anything, but
I will continue to lobby him in favor of FGR vs. E.
> On a related note. What happened to your man in
> Robobank? He puts on the Yellow Jersey and then he
> falls off the face of the earth? Does Lenin have
> him out canvassing for Union rights among the
> spectators? Those wooden signs draped over his
> front and back must really slow him down!
Precisely. Lenin's focus is, in some ways,
commendable, but I do wish he would concentrate his
attentions on say, the German team.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
How are things in Rome? I presume that you
and Austria have agreed to some form of a Lepanto
attack on Turkey. Based on my discussions with Ali
Baba, it seems unlikely that he will open Ank-Con,
so the Lepanto should work. I will be issuing orders
to the troops this evening, but will not execute them
until the agreed upon hour, so I can adjust based on
any last minute information you might be able to
provide. Most particularly, has Austria given you
any indication that he plans to surprise me? We've
been discussing an attack on Turkey, but haven't
settled the Galicia question, yet. Please write if
you can.
Your Friend, and Ally,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Austria
My Dear Ralassa,
My apologies for not getting back to you
sooner. It seems as though I am going to have to
send Army Warsaw to the Ukraine, so I would ask
that we declare Galicia a DMZ in 1901, with the
option (and intention) to extend that DMZ each
Fall throughout the next year. Is this acceptable
to you, and Austria-Hungary?
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Austria to Russia
> My apologies for not getting back to you
> sooner. It seems as though I am going to have to
> send Army Warsaw to the Ukraine, so I would ask
> that we declare Galicia a DMZ in 1901, with the
> option (and intention) to extend that DMZ each
> Fall throughout the next year. Is this acceptable
> to you, and Austria-Hungary?
In the interest of good relations with a neighbor who has shown no
ill-will toward my country, I will agree to keep Galicia inviolate
this year, and in future years unless some deterioration in our
relationship occurs.
I hope this minor degree of cooperation will pave the way for
even more beneficial cooperation in the near future.
More out of curiosity than doubt, what has transpired that you feel
you need your Warsaw army in Ukraine?
Ralassa, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Italy to Austria, England, France, Germany, Russia, and Turkey
My sincere apologies for less than punctual in returning press. Real life
as gotten the best of me the last couple of days. Don't feel 'special' that
you haven't heard from me the last couple of days - I've 'ignored' each of
you equally.
I promise first thing tomorrow morning (Friday) to send a message to all.
Once again, my apologies.
Life is Beautiful (except when it interferes with my Diplomacy),
Roberto
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 5 Results:
The fifth stage of the Tour de France is a team trial
stage. Each member of the team gets assigned the time of
the slowest member. The teams therefore ride together
and try to help each other. In most trials so far, the
difference between first and second place has been 0-3
seconds. In this stage Team Credit Agricole finished
almost a half a minute faster than the next team and
almost a minute ahead the the next. The fourth team,
USPS, was almost a minute and a half behind.
This is quite an accomplishment for Credit Agricole since
they were not expected to contend. They must have been
inspired by the fact that one of their team mates is
wearing the Yellow Jersey. O'Grady should hold that lead
for a while, perhaps until the Mountain stages.
NO one gets any points. But at least it is a French team
with the lead. Too bad it is not the one that is riding
for me (Festina).
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) 20 hours, 54 minutes 21 seconds
4. Igor G. Galdeano (ONC) @ :57
8. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ 1:17
15. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ 1:53
19. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ 2:20
24. Michael Boogerd (RAB) @ 2:47
Message from Germany to all
I will be away this weekend. So my next message to anyone will be on
Monday.
This will give you all a good opportunity to blame everything on me.
Sorry, but my schedule calls for me having way too much fun this
weekend.
Frederick XCMXXMVVIII the 3rd
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
I think it wise that Lenin is concentrating on the
Germans. The French are true racers and would run over
anyone trying to distract them. We may not always be the
fastest riders but we are the most passionate!
I guess that you must be relieved now that Turkey is
finally communicating. It must have been frustrating
writing to him and not hearing back. Perhaps that caused
you to make an alliance with Austria? Just be careful
that Italy and Austria are not setting you up. Caution
may be the best opening move, so you do not attack the
wrong person.
No matter what your difficult choices may be, I wish you
the best luck, at least within the union rules.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
> I guess that you must be relieved now that Turkey is
> finally communicating. It must have been frustrating
> writing to him and not hearing back. Perhaps that caused
> you to make an alliance with Austria? Just be careful
> that Italy and Austria are not setting you up. Caution
> may be the best opening move, so you do not attack the
> wrong person.
Everyone seems to like me, except perhaps Frederick,
who has been unwilling to acknowledge my claim to Swe,
(though it's been quite some time since I've heard from Italy,)
so I don't see myself attacking anyone right out of the box.
I expect that I'll make that decision in S1902.
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Czar Nicholas,
With the deadline approaching, it's starting to look like we're at a bit of
an impass regarding the opening. You're not comfortable with the Slingshot,
and I'm not really comfortable with the Southern Attack/Hedgehog plan.
Since the deadline is tomorrow, perhaps we should agree to a DMZ or a
bounce? I apologize for my hesitancy... I guess I haven't really ruled out
the Hedgehog plan either, but it still makes me a bit nervous.
In any case, I think it's important that we come up with some kind of
agreement before the deadline. Our relations will go much more smoothly if
we each know what to expect from the other. At present my orders are
Con-Bul, Ank-Con, Smy-Ank, for lack of anything better to do.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Russia
Czar Nicholas,
I'm sorry, it just dawned on me that I didn't answer your question! The
reason I'm not as concerned about the Leponto is that I had hoped I could
portray my actions to AI as being genuinely anti-Russian, even if the
slingshot were recognized. Austria has been urging me to join him against
you, and I've been trying to win Italy's good graces (for reasons I'm sure
you can understand), so that notion may not be entirely far-fetched.
I also figured you could immediately claim that you regretted the decision
to go along with the sling, that you don't feel you can trust me after all,
and so on. Anyway, if we can give AI the impression that they can play us
off against each other, they should be unprepared for our attack... even if
they're planning an attack of their own.
Also, I should make clear that I didn't mean to imply that a rebuilt army
should be in the north. An army build in Sev can also be quite effective,
if you prefer to focus on the south at first. Germany has hinted to me that
he'll let you into Sweden if you tell him what he wants to hear regarding
what you'll build as a result. And France seems to want peaceful borders
with Italy, implying he'll be giving either England or Germany some trouble.
Anyway, I'll repeat what you said: I'm not trying to ram my proposals down
your throat. We have many options, but I did want to make sure I addressed
the concerns you rased in your press.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
I am sure that everyone does like you. What is not to
like? The single eye brow is very fashionable these days
;-) And the evil eye, it is all the rage with the
ladies! :-)
Talk to you on the other side of the moves.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
What a lucky day to have our first deadline! My
astrologer says that it will be a good day for me. I
just do not know why he was sweating so much, the air
conditioning was on? At any rate, I am sending you all a
four-leaf clover, just to cover your fate. I have
millions of clover in my yard, it should not be hard to
find a few with four leaves.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
It's been a while since we last chatted. Nothing has changed.
I believe that Germany will permit you to walk into Sweden. Neither of us
have ever discussed any anti-Russian possibilities. That's a little
strange actually, now that I think of it.
I have no idea how the Russia/Austria/Turkey situation is working out, but
if you run into trouble, it won't come from the north.
Good luck,
Ivy
Message from Russia to Austria
My Dear Ralassa,
>I will agree to keep Galicia inviolate this year, and in future years
>unless some deterioration in our relationship occurs.
My thanks. I trust that the
deterioration will not occur.
>I hope this minor degree of cooperation will pave the way for even more
>beneficial cooperation in the near future.
I remain committed to our joint-attack
on Turkey.
>what has transpired that you feel you need your Warsaw army in Ukraine?
I have been negotiating with Frederick
of Germany in an attempt to gain his assurance
that he will not block our attempt to bring
Sweden into the EEU under Russian control this
Fall, but he has, so far, been unwilling to make
that commitment. Since Germany traditionally
values Austrian strength,it is my hope that by
demonstrating my goodwill towards Austria this
Spring by respecting your border, Frederick will
be more likely to allow my Northern Fleet
unhindered passage to Sweden. Indeed, if you,
or the Austrian Ambassador to Germany could speak
to the Kaiser on my behalf this Fall, I would be
most appreciative.
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Master to all
Moves are due tonight, everyone. Some have 'wait' set, which is perfectly
fine. But if someone has failed to submit orders after ten days of
negotiation, I'm going to be upset . . .
Also, the following deadlines will be at 48hr intervals, not landing on
weekends. So this game is destined to pick up speed.
Doug
Message from Austria to Russia
> I have been negotiating with Frederick
> of Germany in an attempt to gain his assurance
> that he will not block our attempt to bring
> Sweden into the EEU under Russian control this
> Fall, but he has, so far, been unwilling to make
> that commitment.
If you have good relations with England, you can arrange to
take advantage of a German attempt to bounce Sweden. In
the fall, rather than order the futile Bot-Swe, order
Bot-Bal while England convoys an army to Den. Germany ends
up with the difficult-to-defend Sweden, your fleet ends up
in vital Bal rather than distant Bot, and England gets an
extra build and threatening position that will keep
Gertmany distracted for several years.
> Since Germany traditionally values Austrian strength,
Unfortunately, this Germany doesn't seem to, or perhaps
takes an AG alliance for granted.
Just to play devil's advocate, a major reason Germany
favors a strong Austria is to keep Russia engaged in the
south. A strong Austria allied with Russia should be
fearsome to Germany, rather than reassuring.
At any rate, as promised, I will not enter Galicia this
turn, nor on future turns without discussing it first.
> Indeed, if you,
> or the Austrian Ambassador to Germany could speak
> to the Kaiser on my behalf this Fall, I would be
> most appreciative.
I will pass your suggestion on to our ambassador there,
with my endorsement. I'm not sure how much good it will do.
Ralassa, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>I believe that Germany will permit you
>to walk into Sweden. Neither of us have
>ever discussed any anti-Russian
>possibilities. That's a little strange
>actually, now that I think of it.
Hmmm, everyone seems to think I'll
get Sweden except me. Perhaps Freddy is
being more circumspect with me than with
everyone else. The lack of anti-Russian
discussion is heartening, though.
Austria claims that there has been
no mention from Germany regarding the
standard German-Austrian hopes for mutual
success that is normally a corner-stone of
AG relations. Freddy seems to be an odd
fish, all the way around.
>I have no idea how the Russia/Austria/Turkey
>situation is working out,
Neither do I, unfortunately.
Hopefully the Archduke and Ali are as
unsure as I am. 8-) I guess we'll see
who breaks their promises, and who
doesn't, soon enough.
France and I have mostly
discussed the Tour and Lenin's attempts
to unionize the Robobank team of late,
and I've still heard nothing from Italy.
Your Friend,
Nicky.
Message from Italy to Russia
Nick,
First, from my records, it would appear I have not sent you a message for a
week while I've received three from you. That's totally unacceptable and I
will strive to do better in the future. Hopefully, I make up in quality
what I lack in quantity.
> I presume that you and Austria have agreed to some form
> of a Lepanto attack on Turkey.
Yes we have. The latest is the Key Lepanto variation at his request. I do
believe that variation will be very favorable for the IR alliance. I hope
you agree.
> Based on my discussions with Ali
> Baba, it seems unlikely that he will open Ank-Con,
The latest I got from Turkey: "...discussions concerning the Black Sea ....
have been unproductive". He claims there will be no clear winner of the
Black Sea conflict this spring. It will be the first test of his
reliability in my eyes.
> Most particularly, has Austria given you
> any indication that he plans to surprise me? We've
> been discussing an attack on Turkey, but haven't
> settled the Galicia question, yet.
>
No, Austria has made no such indication. He's invited me to move to Trieste
and said he may decide to bounce me. He did not mention whether he would
move to Bud/Gal/??? or hold if he did not bounce me, although Budapest is
the likely landing point since he would need to support me to Serbia to
follow thru with the Key. Austria and I have talked about nothing but a
Turkish attack. There are no long-term agreements of what will happen if we
were successful. There has been no mention of Russian participation.
My take on the west: it's a mess. Ivy has been begging me to open ven-pie.
Personally, I think he knows France and I have agreed to a truce and he's
just looking to distract France so he and Germany are free to either head
your way or take France for themselves. I've heard thru the grapevine that
FG are prearranging a bounce in Burgundy. This means that Germany will not
be getting three builds so that is good news. I have absolutely no
indication as to whether or not Germany is planning on moving to Den in
preparation for a Swedish bounce. Germany has played it close to the vest
on that subject as have both EF (ie: they haven't leaked any
disinformation).
If there is anything more you need from me before the deadline, please do
not hesitate to ask. I will answer if possible.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto, My Friend,
> it would appear I have not sent you a message for
> a week while I've received three from you. That's
> totally unacceptable and I will strive to do better
> in the future. Hopefully, I make up in quality
> what I lack in quantity.
I understand that on occasion, life interferes
with Diplomacy, and the advantage of IR is that close
coordination is not necessary before S1901M.
> > I presume that you and Austria have agreed to some
> > form of a Lepanto attack on Turkey.
> Yes we have. The latest is the Key Lepanto variation
> at his request.
Really? My, that's convenient! 8-)
> The latest I got from Turkey: "...discussions
> concerning the Black Sea .... have been unproductive".
> He claims there will be no clear winner of the
> Black Sea conflict this spring.
He wanted to use the Slingshot Juggernaut
opening to destroy my Fleet. I almost agreed, since
it would have kept his Fleet out of Aeg for some
time, but I was concerned about how EG would react
to us showing Juggernaut in S1901M. I proposed a
Southern System, Turkish Attack Variant, combined
with a Turkish Hedgehog since it would hide the
Juggernaut effectively, and could be shifted into
an Austrian attack in the Fall, or 1902. Of course,
it would also have allowed me to attack Turkey in '02,
so he nixed that idea. As a result, I've proposed
that we bounce in Bla in the Spring, primarily to
keep him from opening Ank - Con.
> Austria and I have talked about nothing but a
> Turkish attack. There has been no mention of
> Russian participation.
Good. We just agreed to DMZ Gal, and
have agreed to attack Turkey, while we wonder
about Germany. 8-)
> My take on the west: it's a mess. Ivy has been
> begging me to open ven-pie. Personally, I think
> he knows France and I have agreed to a truce and
> he's just looking to distract France so he and
> Germany are free to either head your way or take
> France for themselves.
Well, France is a naturally strong Power,
and was one of the first Powers taken in 'titleist',
so that suggests that Prince Boar is a player to
be respected, if not feared. I've certainly
played that up in my discussions with Ivy. Ivy
claims to plan to take Nwy with a Fleet, and says
that he and Germany have had no discussions of
anti-Russian plans. He said he found that odd,
but Frederick does seem odd to me as well. Germany
has said that he's moving to Den, but has not yet
decided whether he will bounce me out of Sweden.
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> > Yes we have. The latest is the Key Lepanto variation
> > at his request.
>
> Really? My, that's convenient! 8-)
>
My jaw almost hit the floor when I read the message. I certainly am hoping
he'll follow thru. Even if he doesn't, I like the fact that he was even
willing to suggest the idea because that means he's developed a least a
little bit of trust in me already.
> but I was concerned about how EG would react
> to us showing Juggernaut in S1901M.
Not well I can assure you. Everybody out west is always on the lookout for
a Juggernaut. Even the slightest suspicion will make them react.
>
> Good. We just agreed to DMZ Gal, and
> have agreed to attack Turkey,
>
Sounds like the three of us are all on the same page. Now it's just a
matter of executing. You will be a key since Turkey will undoubtedly
bombard you to come to his defense. He won't like my opening in the least
and will likely see you as his only hope of survival. String him along if
you like. He should still have some use. What I'd like to see happen
though is that as Turkey is reduced to a couple of units that Austria
doesn't have more than 5 units. That means our attack on Austria probably
happens just about the same time we're supporting Austrian units into
Turkish territory.
>
> Well, France is a naturally strong Power,
> and was one of the first Powers taken in 'titleist',
> so that suggests that Prince Boar is a player to
> be respected, if not feared.
>
I've heard this same line as well from both EG but I'm not really buying the
argument. I've read the list of participants. Heck, even if you put the
highest ranked player in France, that still leaves several respectable
players scattered around the board. If you ask me, all players in this game
have deserved my respect and any one of us has the ability to take the
title.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
> > but I was concerned about how EG would react
> > to us showing Juggernaut in S1901M.
> Not well I can assure you
Yes, that was my thought as well, and since a western
reaction to RT falls hardest on R, I suspect that played a
role in Ali's desire to immediately announce it to the world.
> Sounds like the three of us are all on the same page. Now it's just a
> matter of executing. You will be a key since Turkey will undoubtedly
> bombard you to come to his defense. He won't like my opening
If Austria allows the Key, you might want to consider Ion-Aeg in
F1901. It would give one of us Bul in 1902.
> > Well, France is a naturally strong Power,
> > and was one of the first Powers taken in 'titleist',
> > so that suggests that Prince Boar is a player to
> > be respected, if not feared.
> I've heard this same line as well from both EG but I'm not really
> buying the argument. I've read the list of participants. Heck,
> even if you put the highest ranked player in France, that still
> leaves several respectable players scattered around the board.
> If you ask me, all players in this game have deserved my respect
> and any one of us has the ability to take the title.
Oh, to be sure. Given four Top-10 players, with the other three
in the top 100, Boar is not the ONLY player to worry about, but
[several sentences deleted]
I suppose I should stop before I say something to break gunboat. 8-)
Prince Boar's press style and frequency suggest to me that he's
someone to watch closely, though.
Nick.
Austria: Army Budapest → Serbia
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Albania
Austria: Army Vienna → Trieste (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Edinburgh → Norwegian Sea
England: Army Liverpool → Yorkshire
England: Fleet London → North Sea
France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Marseilles → Burgundy (*bounce*)
France: Army Paris → Picardy
Germany: Army Berlin → Kiel
Germany: Fleet Kiel → Denmark
Germany: Army Munich → Burgundy (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Rome → Apulia
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Moscow → St Petersburg
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) → Gulf of Bothnia
Russia: Army Warsaw → Ukraine
Turkey: Fleet Ankara → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Smyrna → Constantinople
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