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Message from Master to all
Welcome to 'titleist', the championship game of the 2000-01
Vermont Group Full Press Tournament. The first round reduced
49 players down to 21 and the second round reduced us down to
these seven. They've earned their way into the final and I
wish them the best.
The name 'titleist' refers to the fact that the winner will
consider himself the champion or title-holder for full-press
Diplomacy in the Vermont Group. This winner will be a soloist,
or the largest member of a draw. If the two largest members
of a draw are of equal size, they will be declared co-titleists.
'titleist' is also a very popular brand of golf balls and
golf equipment, which fits in well with the tendencies of your
game master. :-)
I'm capturing all partial press for display as a showcase game,
so keep in mind that your words will be recorded for posterity.
Keep the potty mouth to a minimum. ;-)
I've set the press to WGP-, and moved the first deadline to Friday,
July 13. There are two players who are in and out a bit early
on, so I don't want anyone short changed in the first season.
Let's come out swinging!
Doug
Message from France to all
Bonjour Europe and La Grande Assemblage of Observers.
Je m'appelle Prince Xavier Boar!
My father has grown ill and my brother, the Dauphin, has
taken over the day to day running of France. Since the
eldest tends to inherit the property and titles, most
often the second eldest turns to a religious education.
I am no different. But being the son of the King of
France, I could not follow a career in the Clergy,
therefore I have settled for being the spiritual leader
of France. I leave the teaching of religion to our
Bishops and the Church; I focus instead on philosophy and
the arts. Given that I am a "people person", by brother
has allowed me the privilege of being France's embassy to
Europe.
I pledge to take up this office with vigor and faithfully
fulfill my duty to both France and my neighbors in
Europe. I leave you with this motto which describes
myself, my brother, and our father.
France, her pen, her sword, and her legacy.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Friend in England,
I send the warmest greetings from France. Before we
struggle over necessary, but boring, details such as
demilitarized zones and distribution of supply centers, I
thought I might start with a discussion of philosophy.
France's goal is to find a loyal and constant ally and,
under the strength of that friendship, advance to the end
game. You will not find France to be a country that
constantly changes side at a whim and for a small gain.
We seek a long term, steadfast, ally with whom we can
evenly divide the gains.
On a further philosophical note, I have long wondered why
the Turkish-Russian alliance is call the Juggernaut. It
seems to me that the English-French alliance is just as
strong. It also has the advantage in that it does not
get stalled against an alliance of equal strength. In
the T-R case, the Italian-Austrian alliance opposes it.
I suppose that a Germany-Italian alliance may stall an
active English-French alliance, perhaps with some Russian
help. It just seems silly to talk in awe about the TR
alliance when the EF alliance can be just as effective.
Perhaps you can enlighten me on what my humble strategic
mind is missing. I have asked the Dauphin, but he gets
frustrated when I do not follow his lightening fast
explanations of fleets and armies and key supply centers.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to all
Hear Ye. Hear Ye. The Great Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Frederick XXXIV extends his well wishes and salutations to all the
other noble rulers of Europe. Emissaries of the higher order are on
their way to your capitals. They bear gifts of great value and mystery.
Please receive them with kindness and wisdom.
Emperor Frederick.
Message from England to Germany
My dearest Freddy,
Greetings, old chap!
How would you like to have Norway? Please read on.
I am interested in a three-way attack on France and a GEI split of France,
Iberia, and Belgium. Even if Italy prefers to go east instead, I still
would like the two of us to take on the Frenchman.
There are several reasons why this might interest you. First of all, I am
tired of giving France his choice of England or Germany for an ally. That
reduces our own odds of finding a decent friend to 50-50, instead of the
2/3 opportunity that is fairer. Also, killing France has the additional
advantage of eliminating someone who is likely to be an extremely strong
and dangerous player to both of us if he gets moving with any strength
(someone who probably got his first choice of nations).
France usually gets his pick of England and Germany, because E & G tend to
view each other as natural enemies down the road. Well, I have seen highly
successful EG alliances, just as I have seen good TA alliances. It's a
matter of finding the right kind of ally and making intelligent agreements.
That's where Norway comes in. You are less likely to worry about our
future if I am clearly working in the south and heading for the
Mediterranean. If you had Norway, and all of Scandinavia for that matter,
then we have an excellent separation of forces. Yes, I expect to take
Norway in year one, but it can be handed over as soon as we are successful
and I have compensation elsewhere. Of course this means that, whether
Italy does or does not join in on the kill, he would likely be a next
target.
Please get back to me soon, for I will, of course, write France and be as
friendly as I can. I am not so naïve as to think that I should put all my
powder in one canoe. But you have my first offer and my first letter!
May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Austria
My dearest Austria,
Greetings, old chap.
Our immediate common interests are few, although we both wish to keep an
eye on Russia. Should we have any business to discuss, soon or far down
the road, I hope you can count on me to listen to your concerns and ideas.
Am I overlooking anything important?
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to France
My dearest Prince Boar,
Greetings, old chap.
Forget about the Hundred Years War and the Seven Years War and Napoleon and
all of that. They were just wee misunderstandings. What say we start
afresh?
In short, I am not adverse to joining forces for the purpose of harassing
Huns, Lombards, Slavs, and Turks. My suspicion is that you are an
experienced and highly successful master at this trade, and I would much
rather have you on my side.
May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
Your colorful prose does not mask an essential message that I find very
attractive. Your philosophy of loyalty and constancy suggests that you
find long-term alliances to be a key for success. I couldn't agree more.
While I certainly wish to give all my neighbors a hearing, it would
surprise me if any of them offer friendship in terms more inviting than
yours. You and I are off to a very good start, old chap.
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Italy
My dearest Italy,
Greetings old chap.
I have an offer to make and a wee favor to ask.
The offer is Spain and Marseilles, which, as you can surely deduce, would
be yours if we carry out a quick IEG strike on France and split France,
Iberia, and Belgium three ways. This is easily done, and it is especially
favorable to the two of us, for we are nations who often have difficulty
going beyond four centers. Furthermore, it probably has the additional
advantage of eliminating someone who is likely to be an extremely strong
and dangerous player to both of us if he gets moving with any strength
(someone who probably got his first choice of nations).
The wee favor is that of a quick reply. If you are confident that you
would rather try your skill to the east (the usual), then I would wish to
court both Germany and France in search of an ally. The sooner I know your
thoughts the better. Of course, I will also ask the German if he is
interested in a triple attack on France.
May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Russia
My dearest Russia,
Greetings, old chap.
I haven't forgotten the invaluable aid that you rendered at old Waterloo.
Wasn't that was a wee tussle! We really ought to work together more often.
In short, I am not adverse to joining forces for the purpose of harassing
Huns, Lombards, Franks, and Turks. I suspect you are an experienced and
highly successful master at this trade, and I hope to have you on my side.
Should you wish to concentrate your attention on southern matters, then we
can still be respectful of each other's interest in Scandinavia. I vow to
take Norway with a fleet; that's least threatening to Russia. While I
cannot tell if Germany will be friend or foe, if the former then I will
urge him to avoid conflict in Sweden. If the latter, then you will be more
than welcome to nibble at the Hun from the rear.
May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Turkey
My dearest Turkey,
I believe it is traditional for England and Turkey to agree to meet in,
say, Warsaw around 1910 or thereabouts. Sounds good to me. Our immediate
common interests are few, maybe Russia, maybe even Italy. Should we have
such business to discuss, I hope you can count on me to listen to your
concerns and ideas.
Am I overlooking anything important?
Courteously,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to all
To: diplomats of Europe
From: Ivy Wingo
My nom de guerre, "Ivy Wingo" may be odd in that it has nothing to do with
war or diplomacy or politics. However, I like its somewhat romantic ring,
suggestive, perhaps, of characteristics of my true persona: honesty, honor,
harmlessness, faithfulness, integrity, loyalty, and innocence.
Let's have a wee contest. An actual, tangible, prize awaits the first
person to identify the real Ivy Wingo. Who is/was he? You are on your
honor (yes, honor!) not to consult any references whatsoever. Either you
know of Ivy Wingo or you don't. Surely, someone out there must be familiar
with him.
Remember, a real prize awaits the first to tell me who I am. Offer expires
if I expire.
Message from Russia to England
Something tells me that Ivy Wingo was a friend/associate of J. R. R.
Tolkien, and C. S. Lewis, at Oxford. (The Notion Club, perhaps?) I know
I've seen the name
before, but it's not quite clicking.
Tzar Nicholas II
P.S. Thank you for your mail, and I will respond formally to it once I get
my
Opening Broadcast sent out.
Nicky.
Message from Master to all
Okay, I just posted this to r.g.d:
Observers to this game can't comment on the game on USIN, but members
of 'vgfp_titleist' on yahoogroups.com can kibbitz all they like -- the
players are the only ones who won't be permitted to join the mailing
list. So if you'd like to discuss the game with others, join that
mailing list.
I should have included the list of participants (all JDPR's referenced
are as of March 7, which sucks, but is still relevant. They don't
include the semi-final results and are thus likely to be even higher
than listed):
Allen Schweinsberg: his 1716 JDPR rating is ninth among active players.
He's played 14 games on record, with victories in 'highland' and
'pinecone' on USEF, 'samband' on TWUT, and 'vgfp0005' on USIN in the
first round of the tournament, as well as five draws. Focuses largely
on full-press games and was ranked #6 on that list at the end of 2000.
Eric Hunter: 1535 JDPR, rank #23. Three full-game and one partial-game
press solos ('juteland' on USWA, 'eden' on USIN, 'unortho1' on
USBR, and 'rachel' on USIN), along with 11 draws, including a 2WD in
'vgfp0001' in the first round. Plays all types of press; was #19 on
the YE2000 full-press list.
Jeff Stephens: 1379 JDPR, ranked in the top 100. 54 official games
played, mostly full press, dating back to 1995. Three full solos and two
partials ('dilsey3' and 'mudcats' on USWI, 'samakama' on USEF, 'adv1'
on USIN, and 'exp2' on USEF), as well as 23 draws -- including a 2WD
in 'vgfp0012' on USVG and a 3WD in 'vgfp0006' on USIN in the first round.
#28 on the YE2000 full-press list.
Ken Lofgren: 1714 JDPR, #10 amongst active players and on YE2000
full-press list. 58 official games played, with 4 victories ('rubicon'
on USEF, 'test0' on USCA, 'tech4' and 'squash' on USEF) in games with
press, along with many draws, including a 3WD in 'vgfp0014' on USVG.
Mixes no-press tournaments and variants in with a steady diet of
full-press games.
Randy Hudson: 1733 JDPR, ranked #8. 77 games played, primarily no-press
and real-time, with lots of variants thrown in as well. Full-press
victories in 'flyer' and 'burnoff' on USEF, as well as the first round
game 'vgfp0009' on USVG and four no-press games. Only two career losses
in full-press game starts.
Rich Olver: 1271 JDPR. The underdog. :-) Normally, that rating is
one of the top one or two in a game, but not here. Played 34 games,
mostly no-press in recent years. Full-press wins in 'winooski' on USIN,
'vergenne' on USEF, and a 2WD in 'vgfp0008' on USVG in the first round.
JDPR peaked at 1471, before the 1999 and 2000 Vermont Group no-press
tournaments (which didn't go so well).
Roger Yonkoski: 1818 JDPR, #4 amongst active players. Also ranked #3
on YE2000 full-press list with 1825 rating. 25 games played, with
full-press solos in 'primary' on USEF, 'braves' on USNM, 'pride' on
USCA, 'horse' on USWI, 'truth' and 'abby' on USEF, plus a dozen or more
draws. 2WD in 'vgfp0013' in the first round. His loss in 'vgfp0004'
was his first loss, ever, in a full-press game he started. The favorite.
The average JDPR of the players in this game will be calculated at
then end of the game (that's the measurement point for all games).
Given that these players' successes in the second round (not to be
revealed until the final is finished), this is likely to be the
highest rated game in Judge history.
Doug
Message [from England] to all
What is most amazing about the list of players are the missing names.
Where is Ron Poet, #1 in the March ratings and #2 in this tournament after
the preliminary games? Where is Karlis Povisils, former #1 in the world,
currently #2, and #1 in this tournament after the preliminaries? Where is
Michael Andresen, currently #6 in the March ratings, and #3 in this
tournament after the preliminaries?
Arguably, the three best players going into the semifinal round did not
survive.
This is a most dangerous world. Get me out of here!
[Perhaps Rich Olver is the real favorite.]
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
It was great to hear from you. I must admit that I have
not heard of your namesake. I will adhere to your
request and not search out the information. Instead I
will remain curious hoping someone reveals it so that my
curiosity can be appeased. I do think that I will like
you quite a bit. Your irreverence and wit will keep me
smiling. Even feel free to call me Old Chap, despite the
fact that I am quite young! It is contrary to common
logic, which I find enjoyable.
You have described, at least to me, the perfect alliance.
I feel that when two allies communicate, are loyal, are
quick to answer messages, do not ignore questions, and
attempt to keep their alliance balanced; there is little
that they cannot accomplish. I promise to be all these
things. If every I fail in this endeavor, due to being
busy or other, call me on it. I specifically promise to
never ignore one of your questions because it is
uncomfortable or difficult.
I also agree with your assessment that it is wise to ally
with a strong and skilled partner. Seeking out a weak
player hoping to eliminate the strong is a recipe for
disaster. Certainly it is easier to beat the weak player
in the end, but that requires actually making it to the
end in order to have that opportunity. I prefer to take
my chances with a strong ally. I hope that I can offer
France to be such a strong ally. My brother and I make
quite a good team. The Dauphin excels in military
strategy while my strength is in building relationships
and influencing people. I am guessing that you also have
excellent qualities. The fact that you would be a fun
ally is just a bonus!
So what are your thoughts on an English-French alliance?
I think that it can be just as effective as a
Juggernaut, just without the catchy name. But I think
that it is best not to draw attention to it with a name.
How would we go about such a plan? Sure, split up
Germany. But what next? You go after Russia and I go
for Italy? How soon would we have to commit to that next
step?
-- Prince Boar
PS: So, how does one call oneself an Emperor when one
controls only three supply centers. At least Napoleon
waited until he controlled most of Europe!
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
> Something tells me that Ivy Wingo was a friend/associate of J. R. R.
>Tolkien, and C. S. Lewis, at Oxford. (The Notion Club, perhaps?) I know
>I've seen the name before, but it's not quite clicking.
Sorry, I have nothing to do with Oxford or the chaps you mentioned.
May you live in peace in Sweden.
May I live in peace in Norway.
May our fortunes be entwined,
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> > Something tells me that Ivy Wingo was a friend/associate of J. R. R.
> >Tolkien, and C. S. Lewis, at Oxford. (The Notion Club, perhaps
>
> Sorry, I have nothing to do with Oxford or the chaps you mentioned.
Hmm, could he be Red Wingo's older brother? ;-) (The web is a wonderful
thing.)
> May you live in peace in Sweden.
> May I live in peace in Norway.
> May our fortunes be entwined,
But not too closely entwined... ;-)
Nicky.
Message from England to Russia
> Hmm, could he be Red Wingo's older brother? ;-) (The web is a wonderful
>thing.)
Why, yes, of course, but the "rules" excluded consulting any reference.
Rather than question your honor, I will just assume that after your first
guess, you just gave up.
Cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to all
(St. Petersburg, Russia, Dec. 1900)
"St.
Petersburg Pravda"
"A New Century, A New
Russia, and a New Europe"
In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II, the
Czar-Liberator, outlined his ideas regarding Russia in the 20th Century.
Here is the text of his speech.
With the ever increasing rate of industrialization in Russia and the
rest Europe, it has become clear that some manner of continental control is
necessary to ensure worker safety, to increase worker salaries, and to allow
their involvement in production decisions, in order to increase worker
satisfaction. Doing so will increase both productivity and profits.
Continental control of production centres will also increase profit and
productivity through the application of economies of scale, and make sure
that the natural resources needed for maintaining these newly achieved
levels of production can be cheaply and efficiently obtained. I, therefore,
propose the formation of a cooperative council to implement and oversee the
achievement of this European Economic Union, and lay out the following
proposed declaration of principles for the EEU.
Declaration of Principles
The fundamental tenets of the EEU movement are that more centralized control
of Production Centers will result in increased productivity and profits.
Secondly, worker unionization will improve safety, worker involvement in
production decisions, worker salaries, and worker satisfaction, and
therefore also increase productivity, thus a more efficient and profitable
economy will develop.
1) The 34 major Production Centers in Europe must be controlled by EEU
Member states.
2) Workers in Europe, both Agricultural, and Manufacturing, must be
Unionized.
3) Worker Unions and Management must negotiate equitable contracts that
protect worker safety, encourage worker innovation, and improve
productivity, and therefore improve management profits, and worker salaries.
4) If Management and Unions cannot agree on a Contract, they will submit to
the decision of the EEU Board of Arbitration.
5) The EEU will not interfere in the internal political, and social, affairs
of its member states.
6) All EEU member states will come to the aid of another member state, if
any member state is threatened by an outside state.
7) Conflicts between member states will be resolved through negotiation, not
the use of force.
8) Overall economic goals and policies will be set by the Union House, which
will have per capita representation from each union, and the Management
House, which will have a representative from each production area that must
negotiate with a union.
9) This overall economic policy will be subject to review by the EEU
Assembly, (a member from each EEU state), and final approval by the three
member Executive Council (Russia, and two members, yet to be determined.)
. These guiding principles are not yet set in stone, and are subject to
amendment by the Executive Council once it is formed, and I am more than
willing to consider the concerns of prospective members of the EEU. Rulers
of Europe, I look forward to speaking with each of you, and I hope to
establish close working relationships with those of you who see the
advantages that the EEU represents for our nations, our workers, and the
world.
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> > Hmm, could he be Red Wingo's older brother? ;-)
> Why, yes, of course, but the "rules" excluded consulting any reference.
> Rather than question your honor, I will just assume that after your first
> guess, you just gave up.
Well, yes. I didn't see much point in guessing, and
since my first instinct was wrong, I decided to look
him up, and mentioned that fact parenthetically so
you would know I was out of the running.
Russia.
Message from England to France
Noble Prince,
>It was great to hear from you. I must admit that I have
>not heard of your namesake. I will adhere to your
>request and not search out the information. Instead I
>will remain curious hoping someone reveals it so that my
>curiosity can be appeased.
All will be revealed in due time. Not that the answer will be particularly
entertaining. It's just that I've always liked the name and finally
thought of using it.
>Even feel free to call me Old Chap,
Although I think I have a reasonable sense of humor, I've never been good
at sustained role-playing. The "old chap" stuff will probably quickly
disappear.
>I specifically promise to never ignore one of your questions because it is
>uncomfortable or difficult.
And I will endeavor not to ask useless questions such as, "are you going to
stab me this turn?" Or fall victim to nervous fears such as, "but if we
eliminate Germany and Italy and Russia, won't you be tempted to turn on
me?" I do like long alliances. Especially when, say, my ally and I
dominate one side, while another pair dominates the other. In such
situations, it is almost certain folly to stab one's partner because the
other pair promises a love fest afterwards. No, make the other alliance
crack first. If there is going to be a solo, then may it be me or my
partner. If there has to be a 2 or 3-way, may both of us be there. All
very easy to state; all very hard in practice.
>I also agree with your assessment that it is wise to ally
>with a strong and skilled partner. Seeking out a weak
>player hoping to eliminate the strong is a recipe for
>disaster.
And just where do you suppose that one might find a weak player in this
game? I tell you, my knees are shaking.
>So what are your thoughts on an English-French alliance?
> I think that it can be just as effective as a
>Juggernaut, just without the catchy name.
I thought it did have a name, but I cannot remember it, if it does.
> How would we go about such a plan?
Well, calmly. Take Norway, Spain, Portugal. Keep Germany out of Belgium.
OK, so there's a delicate matter. Belgium. I don't care who gets it, but
I do care about the matter of balance that you mentioned earlier. I prefer
not to see a 6-center France, while I have only four. There are lots of
ways around this, but too much is unknown to know so soon what is best.
Will Italy be pounding at your door? Then you may need Belgium. Will
Russia be aiding Germany? Then I probably need Belgium. Will Russia be
attacking Germany? etc. etc. We can even trade Belgium back and forth to
sustain balance, if the the need arises.
>PS: So, how does one call oneself an Emperor when one
>controls only three supply centers. At least Napoleon
>waited until he controlled most of Europe!
Some Holy Roman Emperors controlled virtually nothing. Perhaps that's poor
Freddy's model.
Why are you and I sitting in front of computers on July 4?
May our fortunes be entwined,
Ivy
Message from England to all
>In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II, the
>Czar-Liberator, outlined his ideas regarding Russia in the 20th Century.
>Here is the text of his speech.
>
> With the ever increasing rate of industrialization in Russia and the
>rest Europe, it has become clear that some manner of continental control is
>necessary to ensure worker safety,
blah, blah, blah ...
>Declaration of Principles
blah, blah, blah ...
Just conquer the world and get on with it, man. 8-)
Ivy Wingo
Message from Russia to all
> Broadcast message from England in 'titleist':
>
> >In a speech today, Czar Nicholas II, grandson of Alexander II,
>
> blah, blah, blah ...
>
> >Declaration of Principles
>
> blah, blah, blah ...
>
> Just conquer the world and get on with it, man. 8-)
Well, I could have given the standard, "I welcome your ambassadors, and
hope we can all be friends." speech, but I didn't figure anyone would buy
that, either. ;-) I do apologize for the length of my opening broadcast
though. I neglected to write it ahead of time, so it was rather
long-winded.
Nicky.
Message from England to all
Nicky,
> Well, I could have given the standard, "I welcome your ambassadors, and
>hope we can all be friends." speech, but I didn't figure anyone would buy
>that, either. ;-) I do apologize for the length of my opening broadcast
>though.
Heavens, I hope I didn't suggest the need for an apology. With my 20th
Century hindsight, I tend to suspect that Russians are long on the pen, but
put their faith in the sword. Actually I like the "I hope we all can be
friends" approach, at least afterwards. When this is all over, perhaps we
can drink a toast to friendship. If the drinks are contaminated with a wee
drop of blood, well, what's a little blood between friends?
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
In all seriousness, no offense intended.
I stand by my pledge to take Norway with a fleet and respect your right to
Sweden. I have yet to hear from Germany, and do not know if he will be foe
or friend. France is alive and well. I suspect he is a player of great
skill.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> We really ought to work together more often.
I am not, at all, opposed to this suggestion, though given the southern
silence, I am reluctant to commit to an early incursion into Germany.
Certainly we can exchange information, and work together where circumstances
allow.
> I vow to take Norway with a fleet; that's least threatening to Russia.
Fleet London -> English Channel, Fleet Edinburgh -> North Sea, Army
Liverpool -> Yorkshire, followed by Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Army
Yorkshire -> Belgium is less threating, yet, but I take your point and would
welcome an English Fleet in Norway.
> While I cannot tell if Germany will be friend or foe, if the former then I
will
> urge him to avoid conflict in Sweden. If the latter, then you will be
more
> than welcome to nibble at the Hun from the rear.
I have heard nothing from him since his opening broadcast, but your
support of my occupation of Sweden would be appreciated. Prince Boar sent
me (and probably everyone) a note after his opening broadcast that
recognized the fact that while it seems that France and Russia are far
apart, we are really only separated by England or Germany, and therefore
have more potential than an inexperienced leader might expect. He's
definitely someone to watch, and be careful about turning your back on.
> May I also say, by way of introduction, that I think you will find me an
> easy-going ally who listens, who responds quickly, who stays calm, and who
> has a sense of humor. Even though I try very hard and attend to detail,
> nevertheless I'm in it for fun and don't take this business too seriously.
We've certainly exchanged the most mail, so far, though not a lot of it
has been Dip related. 8-) I was not the least offended by your jabs at my
opening, (please note all the smiley faces in my response), and I do realize
that it was done in good fun, (and to plant the idea of Russia as an
aggressor in everyone else's minds.). ;-)
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Italy to all
The great state of Italy welcomes all participants. We look forward to
discussing the future of Europe with all of you. blah, blah, friends, blah,
blah, blood, blah, blah, blah....
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto Benigni
ps: We are currently celebrating the American holiday known as the 4th of
July and are a bit busy with barbeques and sparklers and fireworks.
Tomorrow morning (Thurs), I will send more detailed press privately.
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> In all seriousness, no offense intended.
None taken.
> France is alive and well. I suspect he is a player of great skill.
I'm sure that he is. We know that his JDPR is over 1300, and given that
he's playing France, he almost certainly submitted a Preference list that
was only one or two Powers long. If we ever hear from Germany and Italy,
and you want me to privately express my concern to them about the danger
France poses to us all, let me know.
Nicky.
Message from Germany to England
Sir Wingo:
If you could be so kind as to excuse this very brief note. It's a bit
busy here with the Independence Day celebrations. (Independence from
England, hmmm. Just kidding)
I've read your press, and I was very gratified that you noticed that
France probably had his pick of powers. He could be quite an opponent.
I shall return a proper press with a day.
Freddy
Message from Austria to England
To all who see these presents, Greetings!
Know ye that, reposing special trust and confidence in the fidelities
and abilities of Edna Hapsburg Schmidt, we do appoint her our ambassador
to your nation, in plenipotentiary.
We hope her service will serve to further enhance communication and
cooperation between our nations.
Archduke Ferdinand
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
I am very happy that we have similar approaches and
attitudes to the game. That may make for an enjoyable
ride, even if I end up getting my butt whipped!
I do agree with your suggestion that we could use Belgium
as a country to exchange to keep our forces even. For
this first year I am inclined to keep it neutral. There
are many advantages in a bounce that can be used to
appease fears in the east and as negotiation tools. But
as you said, we need to wait to see what happens.
So far we have heard from everyone but Turkey. Given the
holiday I am not surprised that things have started
slowly. I must let you know that I was slipping off to
sneak some computer time. But in general we were
celebrating the Fourth. A nice American holiday. I am
looking forward to Bastille Day. Hmmm, that sounds
strange coming from a Monarchy? :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Your missive arrived "Thu, 5 Jul 2001 06:38:42 -0500"
An early riser! I like that, too. This morning I got up at 5:30am to
catch GodfatherII on AMC, because I missed the first hour of that movie
yesterday.
Hmmm. Of course, maybe you really do live in France, in which case you
were writing on your lunch break.
Anyway, I too am missing only a message from Turkey. Except for you and
Russia, every other message has been superficial. I'll write again when I
have heard something solid from others.
Ivy
Message from England to Austria
Dearest Edna,
I have in hand the note of introduction from your esteemed emperor
Ferdinand, who places special trust and confidence in you. Be assured that
we have no interests in conflict and that it is to our mutual benefit to
exchange information regarding dangerous neighbors.
To that end I report that I have heard briefly from all corners but Turkey
and that, except those from Russia and France, notes have been courteous,
but superficial. Russia seems a pleasant chap; I recommend that you make
his acquaintance. France appears to be a being of superior presence,
likely a man of great power who wished to be ruler of that nation and got
his wish. Certainly, he has my ear, but I do fear him, and I promise to
listen carefully to Germany as well, when that individual becomes more active.
If there is anything I can do for you, please do not hesitate to ask.
Cordially,
Ivy
Message from England to Italy
Roberto! A fine name.
Your appearance on the scene is greatly appreciated. I wish to reinforce
my previous invitation to join our nations in cooperation.
France, as expected, already has shown himself to be an individual of
superior presence, likely a man of great power who wished to be ruler of
that nation and got his wish. Certainly, he has my ear, but I do fear him,
and I promise to listen carefully to Germany as well, when he becomes more
active. Should you wish to concentrate your energies in the east, then I
will do whatever I can within my limited abilities to strike a friendship
with either France or Germany. Beggars can't be choosers.
However, given France's potential to dominate one and all, please consider
the idea of a quick 3-way strike against him with opening moves to the
Channel, Burgundy, and Piedmont. It would be over very quickly and with
possession of Marseilles and Spain you would have full control over the
western Mediterranean.
Italy needs the decline of either France or Turkey in order to thrive.
Lately, with the decline in the Lepanto, Austria's suspicion of Italy has
grown, and it has not been quite as easy to take out Turkey. Provided we
can bring Germany on board, a triple attack on France is simple, no matter
how good he is.
Here's another way to view the situation. What do you have to fear from a
powerful France once either England or Germany is gone? What always
happens after a fleet is built in Marseilles?
Most cordially yours,
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
Ivy,
I've read and re-read your messages to me. In concept, I fully agree with
what you have to say. My only concern is that I'm not really the type of
player that will 'invade' a neighbor in the Spring of 1901. In order for me
to even consider such an action, I would have to have complete trust in my
Austrian neighbor and, unfortunately, I'm not that far along in my
negotiations with the Archduke.
However, that's not to say that I'm not interested and intrigued by your
proposal. I'm just not sure that I can fulfill your requirement of moving
to Piedmont at this stage of the game. I hope you understand. You are
correct in that I do not want France to become too powerful (I suppose
that's true for any power not just France) and will do everything in my
power to control excessive growth. I most definitely do not want to see
England eliminated.
BTW, the new Pope has requested a visit to the United Kingdom. In spite of
my advise not to sail due to the rumored military activities in the
Mid-Atlantic, he left this morning and should arrive within a day or two.
His name is Pope Johnny Bench I. We trust that you will treat him with the
honor and dignity that he deserves.
Roberto
Message from England to Italy
>His name is Pope Johnny Bench I
Very interesting. I've heard of him. I'm surprised that he doesn't know
me. Or does he? Please ask him.
>My only concern is that I'm not really the type of
>player that will 'invade' a neighbor in the Spring of 1901.
I respect your reply. Please note that the "Alpine Chicken" opening
(Venice->Piedmont & Rome->Venice) does not 'invade' France at all. Sure,
it does make him a little nervous, but it certainly does not commit one to
a war with France. In fact, it easily converts into a fine attack on
Austria. In short it is a flexible opening.
Carry on,
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
>
> >His name is Pope Johnny Bench I
>
> Very interesting. I've heard of him. I'm surprised that he
> doesn't know me. Or does he? Please ask him.
>
I've got him on the cell phone right now. He's laughing pretty hard. To
paraphrase, he's spent his entire adult life trying not to break one of your
records. I thought it might be the Beatles White album but he just laughed
even harder. He mumbled something about once a Cardinal always a Cardinal
then he hung up. So, I'm guessing you either once held a high position in
the Catholic hierarchy or you loaned him your music collection. This is all
very confusing to me.
> >My only concern is that I'm not really the type of
> >player that will 'invade' a neighbor in the Spring of 1901.
>
> I respect your reply. Please note that the "Alpine Chicken" opening
> (Venice->Piedmont & Rome->Venice) does not 'invade' France
>
I'll admit, I'm not familiar with this opening but will do some research.
'Alpine Chicken'? That just doesn't sound like a good opening. Whomever
came up with that name should be shot.
Roberto
Message from Turkey to all
The Sultanate of Turkey sends its warmest regards to our fellow leaders.
The Sultan himself has been imprisoned, ah, I mean, is temporarily
indisposed, and I now represent the armed forces of Turkey. We have sent
our spies, ah, that is, envoys and diplomats, throughout Europe. We look
forward to penetrating the defenses, that is to say, building on the mutual
security of our fellow Powers. We look forward to a lively dialogue while
the peasants beat their plowshares into swords.
Sincerely,
Ali Baba
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
Well, I have heard from everyone now. But like yourself,
I have received mostly superficial messages. Russian
messages have bordered on being more meaningful, but have
not yet. The Italian message was a bit real in the form
of a joke. Or perhaps it was a tease in the form of a
joke. I know not which at this point.
I wait to hear more from Germany.
While we wait, shall we discuss the inevitable topic:
The English Channel. I hope that we can just agree to
not enter in and be done with it. A move to the Channel
is the surest sign of war. The only thing that rivals it
is a move to Prussia and Silesia. Therefore, let's just
say that we both understand that entering the Channel
means war and put the topic behind us. Sound good to
you, Young Pup?
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to England
Please excuse my poor timing, but I won't be able to discuss the game
again tonight. It's past my bedtime, and I have many more emails to
answer. I picked next weekend as the perfect time to take 73 of my
closest friends to a getaway weekend. There were 50 unread emails
backed up tonight. Who says computers are time savers. Bah Humbug.
Frederick
Message from England to Italy
>> >His name is Pope Johnny Bench I
>>
>> Very interesting. I've heard of him. I'm surprised that he
>> doesn't know me. Or does he? Please ask him.
>>
>
>I've got him on the cell phone right now. He's laughing pretty hard. To
>paraphrase, he's spent his entire adult life trying not to break one of your
>records. I thought it might be the Beatles White album but he just laughed
>even harder. He mumbled something about once a Cardinal always a Cardinal
>then he hung up.
Ha-ha. So you do know me. Why not just announce my i.d. in a broadcast
and claim the prize?
>> I respect your reply. Please note that the "Alpine Chicken" opening
>> (Venice->Piedmont & Rome->Venice) does not 'invade' France
>>
>
>I'll admit, I'm not familiar with this opening but will do some research.
>'Alpine Chicken'? That just doesn't sound like a good opening. Whomever
>came up with that name should be shot.
The name is derogatory, supposedly indicating an Italy who is afraid of
both Austria and France. In truth, it is an excellent opening that can
swing either way, east or west. It keeps neighbors guessing. I think it
has not been seen much lately, because of the prevalence of Rome->Naples
and the Lepanto.
Ivy
Message from France to Austria, England, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Turkey
Mes Amis:
I shall be away the next two days. I will be hiking and
meditating in the French Alps. I hear that there is an
astrologer hermit in the Mountains and I aslo wish to
consult him on some things that I have read in the stars.
I am letting you know this for two reasons. The first is
that I do not want you to think that I am ignoring you if
I do not immediately return mail. The second is that I
am willing to consult the hermit on your behalf.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
>I shall be away the next two days. I will be hiking and
>meditating in the French Alps.
Ah, the French Alps. The home of my ancestors - for real! Have a good
time and do not worry that your absence will have any effect on our
discussions.
Most cordially,
Ivy Wingo
Message from France to all
It is with great pleasure that I announce the beginning
of the Tour de France. I will be at the official start
of the race tomorrow.
As it is such a national treasure and a point of pride
for France, I will endeavor to keep you informed of the
Progress.
I imagine that Germany will be pulling for Team Deustche
Telekom
England may wish to adopt the American USPS team, as they
share a common language.
Italy should choose one of the Italian Teams:
Fassa Bortolo
Lampre - Daikin
Mapei - Quick Step
I will choose a French team, say:
Festina
The remainder of you (Turkey, Austria, and Russia) can
choose one of:
*Rabobank from the Netherlands
*Domo - Farm Frites from Belgium
*CSC - World Online from Denmark
*O.N.C.E. from Spain
(first come first serve, send me your preferences in
order as I may not see them before the race begins)
Please let me know your choice. I will then award points
according to the following:
10 points for winning a stage
20 points for winning the Green or Polka Dot Jersey
50 Points for winning the race
Who ever gets the most points is the winner and wins the
following grande prize:
A date for their sister with the Dauphin.
(not to mention a great deal of bragging rights)
I hope that you will all participate. It will be fun, I
promise. Just imaging the fame you will receive as your
adopted team wins a stage. Power, Fame, Dates, they will
all be yours.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Germany
Frederick,
> Please excuse my poor timing, ...
Excused. I understand. We have lots of time.
You must know by now that it has become increasingly obvious that France,
as expected, has shown himself to be an individual of great danger, likely
a man of great power who wished to be ruler of that nation and got his
wish. There is a reason that he is France, and you and I are not.
Certainly, he has my ear, but I do fear him deeply, and I promise to listen
to you with care when you can engage in serious negotiations.
I await with patience.
In friendship,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Russia
Czar Nicholas II
>I am reluctant to commit to an early incursion into Germany.
Of course, I haven't asked this. I just need to find a friend between
Germany or France, and it's too soon to know what the resolution of this
will be. France is obviously highly skilled and dangerous. On the other
hand, Germany is too busy with real life to communicate effectively yet.
>> I vow to take Norway with a fleet; that's least threatening to Russia.
>
> Fleet London -> English Channel, Fleet Edinburgh -> North Sea, Army
>Liverpool -> Yorkshire, followed by Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Army
>Yorkshire -> Belgium is less threating, yet, but I take your point and would
>welcome an English Fleet in Norway.
Of course, Fleet London -> English Channel forces war with France, and I
have no idea if that is called for yet. Is that what you want? 8-)
> He's [France] definitely someone to watch, and be careful about turning
your back on.
He is so obviously a powerful player it would be nice if he could be made
to disappear. But that requires German help, and I still await Germany's
awakening. Maybe you can urge EG cooperation against France, once Germany
is ready to communicate with neighbors. An EG attack on France is very
time consuming, so you could be free from worries from the west for a long
time. On the other hand, if Germany doesn't start talking soon, I will
have no choice but to turn to an EF alliance. The third possibility, an FG
alliance, makes all of this moot of course.
>If we ever hear from Germany and Italy,
>and you want me to privately express my concern to them about the danger
>France poses to us all, let me know.
Italy has said he is reluctant to enter into early agression against
France. I've countered with the suggestion that Venice->Piedmont and
Rome->Venice is actually non-committal and is excellent defense and
potentially offensive in either direction, east or west. It needn't be
seen as immediate warfare against France, but could turn out that way. If
you wish to point out the danger of the French player to Italy, please feel
free to do so. Would he rather have France grow strong behind him or England?
Having said all of this, I still remain open to France as an ally. I need
clear German support before France is my enemy.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Italy to all
It is with great pride that I make the team of Fassa Bortolo my Tour de
France selection.
Life is Beautiful - as is the ride to Paris
Roberto
Message from Italy to England
>
> Ha-ha. So you do know me. Why not just announce my i.d. in
> a broadcast and claim the prize?
>
What?, and spoil everybody elses fun. Nah. I'm not materialistic. I'll
probably come up with a few more references. Can't wait for your first
mistaken order - 'just like Ivy to make another error'. Maybe a Yogism or
two. Nobody you'll know what I'm talking about. They'll just think I'm
some kook.
> I think it has not been seen much lately, because
> of the prevalence of Rome->Naples and the Lepanto.
>
Well, I'm finding myself between a rock and a hard place. As you point out,
the Frenchman is a skilled diplomat and most likely got a first choice of
powers. Not sure if you've had the pleasure of speaking with Ali Baba or
not, but he's impressed me as all. Very organized, very clear. He'll be a
tough nut to crack as well.
The more I think about it and the more I discuss issues with the other
powers, perhaps my best approach would be a quick strike against France.
Have you heard from Germany yet?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> Fleet London -> English Channel forces war with France, and I
> have no idea if that is called for yet. Is that what you want? 8-)
It could be argued that Lon-Eng was intended to give you influence
over Belgium, and that the "English" Channel IS English, after all, but
you're right that it would increase the likelyhood of EF conflict. Given
that Germany would join with one of you, and attack the other, and that
would mean his forces would be headed west, leaving him open to a
stab once France was eliminated, I do prefer that idea over you allying
with France and the two of you overrunning Germany and appearing
on my border in force.
> If you wish to point out the danger of the French player to Italy, please
> feel free to do so.
I'll mention my concern to both Germany and Italy.
> Having said all of this, I still remain open to France as an ally.
> I need clear German support before France is my enemy.
I do understand. Allying with someone who doesn't communicate is
counterproductive.
Nicky.
Message from England to Turkey
Dear Turkey
Forgive me, I am at home and I do not have a copy of your introductory
broadcast, so I forget your proper name.
Here is some information that may be of use to you, and passing it on does
me no harm. Who knows, perhaps you can return the favor some day.
Simply this: Roberto the Italian and I have exchanged some initial
observations, and he appears favorably impressed with your opening
correspondence with him. Hence, I think you may be able to persuade him to
become an ally or at least remain neutral with respect to Turkey. I have
read that the Lepanto is falling out of favor, and it may be that Italians
these days are more predisposed to consider Turkey as a possible friend.
Anyway, I know that you dare not have more than one enemy among Russia,
Austria, and Italy, so that Italian good will may be good news indeed.
Good luck,
Ivy Wingo
Message from Germany to all
I will adopt Team Deutsche Telekom and Jan Ullrich. Although my heart
will be with Lance again. We finally have live TV coverage here in
the US. On OLN (Outdoor life network) Finally there's a reason to pay
for cable TV.
Fred
> I imagine that Germany will be pulling for Team Deustche
> Telekom
Message from Russia to all
I'll take Rabobank since it starts with R. 8-)
Nicky.
Message [from Germany] to all
What can I say. Obviously I don't stand a chance. ;-)
My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
years. So my rating will probably sink even further.
I guess I'm just really bad at strategy.
> Rich Olver: 1271 JDPR. The underdog. :-) Normally, that rating is
> one of the top one or two in a game, but not here. Played 34 games,
> mostly no-press in recent years. Full-press wins in 'winooski' on USIN,
> 'vergenne' on USEF, and a 2WD in 'vgfp0008' on USVG in the first round.
> JDPR peaked at 1471, before the 1999 and 2000 Vermont Group no-press
> tournaments (which didn't go so well).
Message [from Russia] to all
> Broadcast message in 'titleist':
>
> My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
> years. So my rating will probably sink even further. I guess I'm just
> really bad at strategy.
No, that's not an accurate conclusion. My rating is pretty evenly
the result of my press ability and my strategy and tactics, but so far
I've lost four games in the 2001-VGNP. I did not lose because I
was outplayed, but because someone else did something stupid like
stabbing for a single Center, or failing to recognize that it was
necessary to form a "Stop the Leader" alliance, in spite of repeated
Convoys of his Armies to the Leader's capital. It doesn't matter how
well you play if the people near you do dumb things that hurt you and
help someone else.
Message [from Germany] to all
>
> > Broadcast message in 'titleist':
> >
> > My results in the 2001 NoPress Tourney is no better than the other
> > years. So my rating will probably sink even further. I guess I'm just
> > really bad at strategy.
>
> No, that's not an accurate conclusion. My rating is pretty evenly
> the result of my press ability and my strategy and tactics, but so far
> I've lost four games in the 2001-VGNP. I did not lose because I
> was outplayed, but because someone else did something stupid like
> stabbing for a single Center, or failing to recognize that it was
> necessary to form a "Stop the Leader" alliance, in spite of repeated
> Convoys of his Armies to the Leader's capital. It doesn't matter how
> well you play if the people near you do dumb things that hurt you and
> help someone else.
Oh don't get me started on my bad luck for neighbors. I swear this is
what happened one year. When I was Russia, Turkey opened to Armenia.
When I was Germany, England left himself WIDE open to France, and never
responded after being stabbed. When I was France, England made his 1st
build a fleet in Liverpool. When I was Austria, Italy opened to Trieste.
I will admit culpability though. I tend to trust people entirely too
much. In the NoPress tournaments there seems to be a lot of stabbing
going on just for the sake of the stab. I've never changed tactics to
match this. Guess I'm just too much of a nice guy. Note my two way
win. My partner didn't come through, so I guess it's ok to say that I
carried him over the finish line. I basically put a gun to his head and
said that he'll take the two way, my way. (Maybe I'm not that nice)
Message from Germany to England
Ivy Wingo seems to have been a Cincinnati Red who holds the record of
most errors by a catcher, probably because he played the most games. I
cheated and looked it up. Is that wrong? I haven't found any reference
for that Name in England. And I read English history as a hobby.
On to other topics.
I expect that we have lots of time to talk, before and after the first
move. Your moves are standard. You'll certainly go into the North Sea.
The only decision that you have is to go to the Channel or NWG. My
choices are equally mundane. I could surprise everyone and go for
something like Tyrolia or Prussia, but I'll bet that nobody does
anything out of the ordinary this first move.
This leaves us free to talk of greater ideals.
For instance. In most games everyone starts out looking for the win,
then they settle for a draw if need be. The number of units not being
important in that draw. That's not the case here. Every piece we can
get our hands on is very important. I doubt if anyone will be willing
to accept a draw except for the person with the most units. The win is
what we all want, nothing else will do.
I think all of this will make for a very deliberate game. I won't be
surprised to see alliances shift move after move. Whoa onto the power
which gains a lead. Everyone will jump on him. Could this turn into a
7 way draw? Naw, but I'll be surprised if we're done by Christmas.
Looking closer to home. You're completely correct in your initial
comments. France usually does have his choice of E or G as an ally.
I'll go further and say that it's usually England. Then the game turns
on whether France can get into the Irish Sea or not. If he goes for it
he's usually successful.
England and Germany usually try to talk France into going after Italy.
But France doesn't usually do that, at least initially.
Looking at our France. He certainly does have a silver tongue. You
have to like the guy. I'll bet that whoever he's holding the knife
behind his back for, won't even mind when he slips it in. Therefore, I
share your concerns that this France will be especially dangerous. I
believe that it'll be in our mutual interests to take him out. How to
go about that could be our topic of discussion for awhile. I like your
idea of England going south and Germany going NE. I'm glad you didn't
try to blow smoke up me bum by presenting a plan where you'd be in
Scandinavia and France. Pincher around my territory are never the basis
of a strong alliance.
I've been running at the fingers here. I'll send another note out soon
covering the theoretical goals of England and Germany.
Fred.
Message from Austria to England
> Am I overlooking anything important?
What a week this has been.
No, I can't think of anything you've overlooked. Your relationships with
Russia, Germany, and France are of course of some import to my little
empire, but I doubt we can help each other much there as yet. When that
changes, as I'm sure it will, we'll have more of substance to discuss.
Edna, representing the Empire of Austria-Hungary
Message [from Austria] to all
> England may wish to adopt the American USPS team, as they
> share a common language.
surely you must be joking
Message [from Austria] to all
> Note my two way
> win. My partner didn't come through, so I guess it's ok to say that I
> carried him over the finish line. I basically put a gun to his head and
> said that he'll take the two way, my way.
dale didnt make it to the finals just you your better
than him right
Message from England to France
Good Prince Boar,
OK, I'll take that American team that you recommended.
>While we wait, shall we discuss the inevitable topic:
>The English Channel. I hope that we can just agree to
>not enter in and be done with it. A move to the Channel
>is the surest sign of war. The only thing that rivals it
>is a move to Prussia and Silesia. Therefore, let's just
>say that we both understand that entering the Channel
>means war and put the topic behind us. Sound good to
>you, Young Pup?
This sounds good to me. Surprisingly, in games that I have played, the
Channel nevers seems to be a powder keg the way, say, the Black Sea is. It
seems to be very difficult for Russia and Turkey to trust each other over
the Black Sea in 1901, but the Channel stays vacent even in games in which
France and England eventually come to blows. Perhaps it is because England
is drawn to Norway and France to Iberia initially, which also gives them an
extra year to size up their neighbors.
On to the topic of Munich. I consider Munich to be yours, while my domain
lies to the north. Belgium, as we've discussed earlier, is up for grabs,
but I vow it will not be so great an issue with me that it could dampen the
partnership.
Germany sent his first real note. He seeks a partnership, but there was
nothing especially attractive in style or content that makes me want to
rethink my preference to go with France/England.
[My home internet connection is down, and I trudged to the office this
morning to rush out some e-mail. Lately, with lots of rain and storms, my
telephone-line supported modem is hopeless in the evening.]
Ivy Wingo
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Italy
My good Roberto,
>> Ha-ha. So you do know me. Why not just announce my i.d. in
>> a broadcast and claim the prize?
>>
>
>What?, and spoil everybody elses fun.
Two of our friends have identified me after confessing that they consulted
references. A third had given up. I expect that in another day I will
announce you as the winner and make a few comments on the subject.
Had I been Van Lingle Mungo, would you have known me? Did you know Ivy
Wingo because you are a Reds fan or a J. Bench fan? Or are you an all
around baseball fan?
>The more I think about it and the more I discuss issues with the other
>powers, perhaps my best approach would be a quick strike against France.
>Have you heard from Germany yet?
Yes, finally. Please make his acquaintence yourself and let me know what
you think. An anti-French assault is not very attractive for Italy if
Germany is not on board. If Germany is on board, then its a cakewalk. The
three of us could evenly share Spain, Portugal, Marseilles, Paris, Brest,
and Belgium very, very quickly.
Most cordially,
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
>Given
>that Germany would join with one of you, and attack the other, and that
>would mean his forces would be headed west, leaving him open to a
>stab once France was eliminated, I do prefer that idea over you allying
>with France and the two of you overrunning Germany and appearing
>on my border in force.
Another advantage to you is that an eg attack on France draws my forces to
the south, whereas a French/English assault on Germany puts my forces in
Scandinavia. Also the attack on France takes much longer. So why does it
interest me? Same reason: I think that the French player is so good that I
just don't want to see him begin to grow. If we do manage to take out
France, and you thrive as well, there could be lots of opportunities for
the two of us to work together on a common project.
Anyhow, Germany is finally talking!
Ivy
Message from England to Germany
Hi Fred!
>Ivy Wingo seems to have been a Cincinnati Red who holds the record of
>most errors by a catcher
Yup.
>I cheated and looked it up. Is that wrong?
Yup.
> And I read English history as a hobby.
Interesting, for I dabble in history a little. One of the greatest books I
ever read was Barbara Tuchman's "The Guns of August." Not exactly pure
English history, but England was certainly involved.
>I expect that we have lots of time to talk, before and after the first
>move. Your moves are standard. You'll certainly go into the North Sea.
>The only decision that you have is to go to the Channel or NWG.
Well, NWG is standard, but the Channel is very bold. However, the Channel
is my strong preference. Let me be very clear here: I will open to the
Channel, if you open to Burgundy.
>I could surprise everyone and go for
>something like Tyrolia or Prussia,
That could be fun, but it turns your back on both England and France.
That's just too inviting for England/France, and I suspect that in this
high stakes game everyone will be more conventional.
>This leaves us free to talk of greater ideals.
>For instance. In most games everyone starts out looking for the win,
>then they settle for a draw if need be. The number of units not being
>important in that draw. That's not the case here. Every piece we can
>get our hands on is very important. I doubt if anyone will be willing
>to accept a draw except for the person with the most units. The win is
>what we all want, nothing else will do.
> I think all of this will make for a very deliberate game. I won't be
>surprised to see alliances shift move after move. Whoa onto the power
>which gains a lead. Everyone will jump on him.
Very, very interesting. You are the first person to discuss the
implications of Doug's stipulation in which the person with the most units
in a draw becomes the grand champion. This makes any endgame very
unstable, and a solo more likely.
I've thought hard about this and how it should affect long range strategy.
Here is my conclusion. It is a mistake to alter what has proven to be
successful strategy in the past. Find a partner and stick together. Stick
together when others are falling apart. Talk to members of the alliance on
the other side of the board and get them to split apart instead.
Near the end of the game, if I get careless and my partner stabs me for the
win, then that's fine. That's what I would do to you if it could get me 18
centers. So that's what I want. I want to be part of a team that is says
together while the number of players is whittled down one by one.
What won't work though is a stab that gets me from 10 to 12 or from 12 to
14, etc. Because, as you have observed, the other two or three players
will then just chop me back down again. It won't do to just get ahead, if
it falls short of victory. Better to grow slowly and evenly and remain at
the same size as others as long as possible.
> Looking closer to home. You're completely correct in your initial
>comments. France usually does have his choice of E or G as an ally.
>I'll go further and say that it's usually England.
That's what I am trying to avoid. Giving France, a terrific player in this
instance, a free ride.
> Looking at our France. He certainly does have a silver tongue. You
>have to like the guy. I'll bet that whoever he's holding the knife
>behind his back for, won't even mind when he slips it in. Therefore, I
>share your concerns that this France will be especially dangerous. I
>believe that it'll be in our mutual interests to take him out.
Yes, I like him. But I'd like his persona dead. Afterwards, I am sure the
master behind the puppet will congratulate us. He will probably be someone
who has butchered you or me or both of us in the past.
>How to
>go about that could be our topic of discussion for awhile. I like your
>idea of England going south and Germany going NE. I'm glad you didn't
>try to blow smoke up me bum by presenting a plan where you'd be in
>Scandinavia and France. Pincher around my territory are never the basis
>of a strong alliance.
Yeah, this is why France usually gets his choice of allies. I am very
serious about me pulling out of Norway and pushing far to the south. You
can have Norway when I get compensation down there. For example, we might
first put you in Belgium but transfer it to me when you take Norway.
Whatever. Let's feel our way as we go. Sweden is also yours, but I
suggest that you let Russia sleep there in peace until France is no longer
a threat. We don't want Russia helping France.
It is possible that Italy could be part of an attack on France. That would
really finish off the Boar quite fast. Whether or not Italy joins in, I
prefer that he not get wind of my southern strategy. I have to go to the
Med if you and I are to remain friends.
I think we have something going here.
Ivy
Message from France to all
Well, that was an exciting opening to the First Stage of
the Tour de France. After opening ceremony, I was
distracted by an argument over whether the middleclass
truly has freedom. So I will reply on the following
excerpt from the offical royal coverage of the race:
Festina rider Christophe Moreau, winner of the
recent Dauphine Libere stage race, has stunned the
Tour de France by winning the prologue by an
outstanding three seconds. Defending champion
Lance Armstrong (USPS) finished the 8.2 kilometer
test just four seconds behind Moreau.
He went on to add that the Festina rider was helped when
a team mate grabbed a spoke from his wheel and poked
Lance Armstrong while he was making his move. I have
discounted this claim of course. It is not that I think
that there would be no stabbing going on, I think that
amounts to a minor fine. I just do not believe one can
remove spoke from a wheel at high speeds.
Well, with this first victory, my team Festina takes the
first points! Vivre la France! That does pose a dilema
however. If Festina wins, that means my sister wins a
date with my brother, the Dauphin. Well, I do not mind
punishing my brother like that, but my sister deserves
something better. Perhaps I can give the Dauphin too
much wine and send him off with the 90 year old chamber
maid who assists my sister.
Official Tally:
(note that I assigned teams to Austria and Turkey)
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 0 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 0 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
I will try to send more diplomacy related mail later
today after I do some mundane things like go hunting
(take a trip to the grocery store).
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Another advantage to you is that an eg attack on France draws my forces
> to the south, whereas a French/English assault on Germany puts my forces
> in Scandinavia.
True. It also allows you to try to break into the Med as we pressure
Germany together, once France falls..
> Also the attack on France takes much longer.
Not if you/we can convince Italy to send a Unit or two west. EIR has
potential, I think.
> If we do manage to take out France, and you thrive as well, there could
> be lots of opportunities for the two of us to work together
Agreed. There was a recent article in the DipPouch that discussed
stable two-ways. I was surprised to see that there were several possible
for England and Russia. I had always thought that the "St. Petersburg
Question" would make that difficult if not impossible, but I am glad to see
that that is not the case.
Nicky.
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
"A Slow Start for Team Robobank"
> Well, that was an exciting opening to the First Stage of the Tour de
France.
> Official Tally:
> Russia (Robobank): 0 points
It was learned today that the members of Team Robobank were delayed by
Union Steward V. I. Lenin, who was attempting to explain the benefits that
unionization would present to both bank workers and bicyclists. Union
Steward Lenin has been encouraged to attempt to unionize other teams before
the next stage, and to speak with Team Robobank only after the stage has
been completed.
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
Ivy Wingo:
Your last message had two signatures. I am not certain
if you have a split personality or if you fear that I
will forget your name. Fear not, I will always remember
it!
Speaking of names, what is the name of the Austrian
Ambassador? I have the feeling that we each have our own
person. Austria must be rich to be able to pay so many
functionaries! The Austrian ambassador to France is
Felicia something or other. I have it written down
somewhere.
I am glad to hear that you favor a French/English
alliance to the German/English alliance. I am of the
same mind as you. I feel that we have a lot in common in
style. Specifically: wanting a long term alliance,
keeping our size balanced, keeping up the level of
communication. I would add that I pledge to be
reasonable and always discuss the options and not try to
ram my ideas down your throat.
I was glad to get your note on the Channel. Now we need
not waste any time discussion it again. Let's work
towards keeping Belgium a neutral. It is the best
option. Our Spring movements should keep that in mind.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 1 Results:
With a perfectly timed sprint, German Sprinter Erik Zabel
wins the first Stage of the Tour de France. (Note that
yesterday's race was the Prologue.)
This gives 10 points to Germany and puts Zabel as the
favorite to win the Green Jersey (best sprinter).
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 10 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 0 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Christophe Moreau (FES) 5 hrs 4 min 35 secs
2. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :03 secs
3. Lance Armstrong (USPS) :04
5. Jan Ullrich (TEL) :07
6. Florent Brard (FES) :07
10. Joseba Beloki (ONC) :13
Message from Italy to England
> I expect that in another day I will announce you as
> the winner and make a few comments on the subject.
>
I'd prefer to stay anonymous. Not sure why.
> Had I been Van Lingle Mungo, would you have known me?
No.
> Did you know Ivy Wingo because you are a Reds fan or a
> J. Bench fan? Or are you an all around baseball fan?
>
Let's just say I happened to know who holds the record for most errors
all-time by a catcher and leave it at that. I will admit I did have to look
up what team he played for which is where I got the Bench reference.
> >Have you heard from Germany yet?
>
> Yes, finally. Please make his acquaintence yourself and let
> me know what you think.
>
Talked with him the other day. I was impressed. He basically said he would
not ask that I move to Piedmont but if I were so inclined that he would
pledge his full support. I'll let you know if I hear more.
Roberto
Message from England to all
To: diplomats far and wide.
From: Ivy Wingo
The identify Ivy Wingo contest is over. Amazingly, the winner prefers to
remain anonymous! Since I don't yet want to antagonize any of our good
fellows, I must respect this shy man's request. However, if he ever
performs a dasterdly deed I shall expose him without remorse.
Ivy Wingo was a catcher for the St. Louis Cardinals and Cincinnati Reds. I
chose the name only because I was fond of its wacky sound. It was tempting
to go with the even wackier Van Lingle Mungo, but that player has already
been celebrated in song.
Now for the prize. The prize is Belgium. The winner, although
unidentified, is free to travel to Belgium to make his claim. He may wish
travel afloat, but a land route would be quicker. I am sure that my good
friends Prince Boar and/or Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request.
What's this I hear? I can't believe my ears. "We don't need no stinkin'
visas!"
Well, what ever happened to civility? And I thought I was playing with
gentlemen. It is indeed best that this rogue not be known by name. But
beware the snake who crawls into Belgium.
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
> Not if you/we can convince Italy to send a Unit or two west. EIR has
>potential, I think.
Hmmm. EIR. I like the possibilities here. Each of the other four powers
is bounded by two of us, and we can work together to control them. What is
really needed to make this work is conflict, or at least deep mistrust,
between Turkey and Austria. Once one of these two is weakened, you and
Italy can handle the eastern situation easily.
I guess it goes without saying that if you and Turkey began by plowing into
Austria, then Italy (heck, the entire world) would be very wary of the
situation. We've discussed western possibilities enough that I feel free
to throw in my two cents here. I would much rather see you and Austria
begin by taking on Turkey, than you and Turkey taking on Austria.
I do understand that one has to find a friend whereever one finds a friend.
That's why, even at this point, that I cannot rule out some sort of EF
partnership. It's not my preference, though.
So let's talk up friendship with Italy. He can help both of us.
Ivy
Message from England to France
Good Prince Boar,
>Speaking of names, what is the name of the Austrian
>Ambassador? I have the feeling that we each have our own
>person. Austria must be rich to be able to pay so many
>functionaries! The Austrian ambassador to France is
>Felicia something or other.
I have the honor of listening to Edna Hapsburg Schmidt. Edna Hapsburg
Schmidt, it turns out, has nothing to say.
Is there a pattern here? Edna for England; Felicia for France; R----- for
Russia; etc?
>I am glad to hear that you favor a French/English
>alliance to the German/English alliance. I am of the
>same mind as you. I feel that we have a lot in common in
>style. Specifically: wanting a long term alliance,
>keeping our size balanced, keeping up the level of
>communication. I would add that I pledge to be
>reasonable and always discuss the options and not try to
>ram my ideas down your throat.
These words resonate. Now we only need moves to match!
I tell myself to be patient and give the German a fair hearing, but he does
not give me enough to develop any confidence in him at all. I am ready to
move and it is only Monday.
By the way, do you have things squared away with Italy? Are you
comfortable in that quarter? He and I do chat a bit and it appears that he
too will open conventionally. He never even asked about a possible early
attack on France. However if you want me to say anything to him, I will.
Ivy
Message from England to Austria
My Dearest Edna,
Is it true that Austria has managed to send emissaries whose names begin
with the letter of the country to which they are sent? Edna for England,
R--- for Russia, T---- for Turkey, etc.? If so do I get a prize for
noticing this?
Ivy Wingo
Message from Austria to England
> Is it true that Austria has managed to send emissaries whose names begin
> with the letter of the country to which they are sent? Edna for England,
> R--- for Russia, T---- for Turkey, etc.? If so do I get a prize for
> noticing this?
I'm sure the Archduke made an effort to choose ambassadors who were
compatible with the nation with which they were posted.
Edna
Message from France to all
Sorry, this will be brief. I still need to catch up on
my other mail.
Tour de France Stage 2 Results:
After riding in a break of 16 for the last 20 kilometers
Rabobank rider Marc Wauters took the victory in Stage 2
of the 2001 Tour de France today. The expected contenders
for the overall victory--Moreau, defending champion Lance
Armstrong and Jan Ullrich--all survived the day without
incident.
This gives 10 points to Russia and puts Wauters in the
Yellow Jersey. Can he hold on for the Tour de France
victory? Time will tell.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 10 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Marc Wauters (RAB) 9 hours 40 minutes 17 seconds
3. Servais Knaven (DFF) @ :27
4. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :27
9. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :30
11. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :31
12. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :34
13. Florent Brard (FES) @ :34
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
>Is there a pattern here? Edna for England; Felicia for
France;
>R----- for Russia; etc?
I have no doubt that you are correct. I was thinking the
same thing about the name Felicia. I give the Austrian
credit for trying this. I often contemplated such a
plan. But it seemed like more trouble than it was worth.
We shall see how long before I get a message from Edna.
Although Felicia may tell her how cute I am and she may
write me on purpose ;-)
>I tell myself to be patient and give the German a fair
hearing,
>but he does not give me enough to develop any confidence
in
>him at all. I am ready to move and it is only Monday.
I understand what you are saying. I am sure that we will
both continue to talk with him through Spring of 1902.
But I expect that it will not change my initial
preference for you. I hope that the same will be true
for you. I do appreciate your honesty about the
situation. No need to tell each other lies that we will
not believe, and do not expect each other to believe.
>By the way, do you have things squared away with Italy?
>Are you comfortable in that quarter?
Well I was at first comfortable. But now he is making
noise about moving to Piedmont. He claims that everyone
else wants him to do so. Perhaps he just likes jerking
my chain. We shall see what comes of it. Anything that
you can do to persuade him to stick to the Southeast
would be great. After all, we want to try to establish
an IA vs. RT battle. This usually bogs down and gives us
time to settle our little end of the world. If Italy
comes after France, then ART can settle themselves too
soon. Similarly, we do not really want Russia to come
North and ignore the South.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
>I am sure that my good friends Prince Boar and/or
>Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request
I would gladly issue Visas for the winner to travel to
Belgium. Simply pass through Munich and Ruhr and
everything will be just fine.
> Go Team O.N.C.E!
>Doug
That's the spirit!
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to all
> Rabobank rider Marc Wauters took the victory in Stage 2
> of the 2001 Tour de France today. This gives 10 points
> to Russia and puts Wauters in the Yellow Jersey. Can he
> hold on for the Tour de France victory? Time will tell.
Marc, Marc, he's our man, if he can't do it, well then
Lance can! (The United States Postal Service is unionized,
after all.)
V. I. Lenin,
European Union Steward for Russia.
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
I believe that I saw a relative of yours on TV. His name
was Trey Wingo and he is a Sports Announcer on ESPN
Sports Center. I never really payed attention to his
name before, until I met you. See how you are broadening
my horizons. For that I thank you.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Good Prince Boar,
> >>By the way, do you have things squared away with Italy?
>>Are you comfortable in that quarter?
>Well I was at first comfortable. But now he is making
>noise about moving to Piedmont. He claims that everyone
>else wants him to do so.
Very interesting. Two easterners have suggested that I target France as an
enemy, but no one other than yourself thinks I should go after Germany. I
think I know what is going on here. Your press, public and private, has
identified you as a very likeable person. You are someone who is fun to
play Diplomacy with. The experienced, sophisticated players of this game
recognize that those characteristics mark a dangerous player. So, as much
as they like and admire the man behind the French persona, they think it
best to get rid of him. Make sense?
Thinking out loud now: perhaps in a game like this it is best to restrict
one's charms to one or two neighbors while lying low in broadcasts and
letters sent to distant realms.
>I believe that I saw a relative of yours on TV. His name
>was Trey Wingo and he is a Sports Announcer on ESPN
>Sports Center.
Yes! I saw him for the first time this week in some sort of ESPN promo.
Has to be a relative.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
>Thinking out loud now: perhaps in a game like this i
>is best to restrict one's charms to one or two
>neighbors while lying low in broadcasts and
>letters sent to distant realms.
An interesting philosophy. If I was smart I would adhere
to it. But I value my enjoyment too much. Hence I
intend to have fun, despite the consequences. I will
also choose a long term ally based as much on enjoyment
as strategic reasons. A flaw, but an acceptable one in
my opinion.
As for my charms being the reason that others suggest
that you attack me. That is nice of you to say. I have
received a similar letter about you, being more dangerous
that Germany based on your style. However, in my case I
think that it may also do something with my being France.
France is a popular choice. Hence the player choosing
France must have done well in Round 2. Hence he is
dangerous, so let's get rid of him. For one thing, the
best players may have hid themselves in other countries
to avoid this phenomena. Secondly, we are all dangerous
players. I think that you and I need to stick together
to deal with this they are dangerous so let's get 'em
phenomena.
-- Prince Boar
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Negotiations Diploman, things seem to heating up, but so far the
negotiations have been slow.
DM> Yes, Boy Gambit, things have been a bit slow.
BG> But one guy rambles on about unions, another goes on and on about a bike
race, and a third says nothing but blahs. Don't they know there is a game of
Diplomacy going on?
DM> Well, relationships take time to build. Besides, some people insist on
taking all the time allotted.
BG> Well, myself and the other observers are falling asleep here. I wish that
they would just get on with it.
DM> Be patient Boy Gambit. You know that we must be ever vigilant to seek out
the betrayer, the liar, the stabber and bring them to justice. That is our
role.
BG>ZZZZZZZzzzzz
Message from Turkey to all
My fellow conspirators,
I have been having ISP problems that have prevented me from replying to
press, and in some cases prevented me from receiving them. I am using
alternate methods to get this message through. The scoundrels that formerly
provided these so-called "services" have been executed and replaced, and our
communications centre will be in full operating status by this evening. If
you have sent anything to me in the last few days, please re-send.
Apologies for this untimely inconvenience.
Ali Baba
Message from England to Turkey
Sent earlier:
Here is some information that may be of use to you, and passing it on does
me no harm. Who knows, perhaps you can return the favor some day.
Simply this: Roberto the Italian and I have exchanged some initial
observations, and he appears favorably impressed with your opening
correspondence with him. Hence, I think you may be able to persuade him to
become an ally or at least remain neutral with respect to Turkey. I have
read that the Lepanto is falling out of favor, and it may be that Italians
these days are more predisposed to consider Turkey as a possible friend.
Anyway, I know that you dare not have more than one enemy among Russia,
Austria, and Italy, so that Italian good will may be good news indeed.
Broadcast earlier:
To: diplomats far and wide.
From: Ivy Wingo
The identify Ivy Wingo contest is over. Amazingly, the winner prefers to
remain anonymous! Since I don't yet want to antagonize any of our good
fellows, I must respect this shy man's request. However, if he ever
performs a dasterdly deed I shall expose him without remorse.
Ivy Wingo was a catcher for the St. Louis Cardinals and Cincinnati Reds. I
chose the name only because I was fond of its wacky sound. It was tempting
to go with the even wackier Van Lingle Mungo, but that player has already
been celebrated in song.
Now for the prize. The prize is Belgium. The winner, although
unidentified, is free to travel to Belgium to make his claim. He may wish
travel afloat, but a land route would be quicker. I am sure that my good
friends Prince Boar and/or Freddy will issue the necessary visas upon request.
What's this I hear? I can't believe my ears. "We don't need no stinkin'
visas!"
Well, what ever happened to civility? And I thought I was playing with
gentlemen. It is indeed best that this rogue not be known by name. But
beware the snake who crawls into Belgium.
Good luck,
Ivy Wingo
Message from Turkey to England
Ivy,
Thanks for your press, and thanks for the information you sent. Sorry it's
taken me so long to reply, but I'm confident that my communication
difficulties have been resolved.
Indeed, England and Turkey form a special relationship. I can genuinely say
I'd be happy to see successful English advances, and I hope you feel the
same way. Naturally, Russia is a likely topic of conversation, but in the
long term I think we'll each be better off if we're both doing well.
As for Russia, I've not yet had any indication of how he intends to open.
Negotiations are ongoing regarding the Black Sea, but the issue is as yet
unresolved. As you know, I've had some favorable correspondence with Italy;
nothing yet from Austria but the usual warm & fuzzies.
How are things going in the north? I've had little word from France, except
for is request that I not try to send Italy his way. Why he suspects I
might do such a dastardly thing, I've no idea. As you might imagine, our
strategists are dying for word of the Western Triangle.
Anyway, thanks again for your good news. I look forward to what I hope will
be a long and mutually rewarding relationship between us.
Sincerely,
Ali Baba
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 3 Results:
Erik Zabel (Telekom) proved again
why he's been the winner of the
Tour's green jersey for best
sprinter five times as he blew
through an uphill sprint at the end
of today's stage Seen at
the front of the race in the late
going were defending Tour champ
Lance Armstrong (USPS), and
hopefuls Jan Ullrich (Telekom) and
Christophe Moreau.
I thought that the TdF was a long haul race and not one
for sprinters. But it looks like a sprinter is stealing
the show for now. Can Zabel avoid the early leader
syndrom and not have all the other powers conspiring to
beat him down! Emperor Frederick best watch out. This
may work against him :-)
This gives 10 more points to Germany and likely sets him
up for 20 more points for the Green Jersey.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 0 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.)14-hours 15-minutes 44-seconds
2. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :17-seconds
5. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :20
7. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :21
8. Erik Zabel (TEL) @ :23
9. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :24
10. Florent Brard (FES) @ :24
12. Joseba Beloki (ONC) @ :30
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to all
Major thunderstorm fried my modem. The replacement is working, finally,
but it's late, and I'm annoyed, so I'll try to contact everyone tomorrow.
Russia.
Message from Germany to all
It's that one two punch. Or is that a one-a and a two-a?
Zabel will win more stages and the green jersey. In the mountains we
have Ullrich. Can Team Telekom be stopped? Time will tell.
> I thought that the TdF was a long haul race and not one
> for sprinters. But it looks like a sprinter is stealing
> the show for now. Can Zabel avoid the early leader
> syndrom and not have all the other powers conspiring to
> beat him down! Emperor Frederick best watch out. This
> may work against him :-)
>
> This gives 10 more points to Germany and likely sets him
> up for 20 more points for the Green Jersey.
Message from Germany to England
Ivy
Sorry if I haven't responded to anything that you've said lately. (I
haven't read emails) I've been tied up watching Tour de France on TV.
It's captivating. A million people watched yesterday's stage in
person. Amazing.
I'll make some time for this game soon.
I'm also not sure that we all need to be creating a mountain of press
right now.
Freddy
Message from England to Germany
Freddy,
> I'll make some time for this game soon.
Good. There is one essential detail that we need to agree on. Do we take
the agressive route or a passive wait-and-see route?
I really prefer that we open with a bang and hit the Channel and Burgundy,
while encouraging Italy to go for Piedmont, but I don't wish to open to the
Channel if you prefer to wait.
So please respond soon with your feelings on this. I don't want France to
get off and running. If you say you want a more conservative, conventional
opening I will respect that and do likewise.
I still am talking to France (a lot; he is agressive and friendly), but you
are still my first choice for an ally.
Ivy Wingo
Message from France to England
Ivy Wingo:
So have you heard much from Germany lately? I have heard
from him only sparingly. We then talk about Biking and
not Diplomacy. I am jsut wondering if you are having the
same experiences. The game seems to have slowed down.
We need to get the first moves going.
Otherwise, I hope things are going well. The Dauphin and
I busy ourselves playing Chess. He likes to may battle
sounds, especially when he moves his Horse. I always try
to trade my Bishop or Knight for his Knight, just to
annoy the heck out of him. But then he says something
annoying like, "Talk about separation of Church and
State, I separated that Church from the state of the
Board" when he takes my Bishop. We are passing time
waiting for something to happen.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 3 Results:
Official Report:
Former UCI #1 rider Laurent Jalabert (CSC), proved to be
too strong for breakaway partner Ludo Dierckxens (Lampre)
as he took the two-man sprint to win the 215-kilometer
fourth stage of the 2001 Tour de France from Huy to
Verdun.
Aussie Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) managed to keep his the
yellow leader's jersey that he won yesterday, despite a
number of serious breakaways thoughout the day. Defending
champ Lance Armstrong (USPS) stayed clear of trouble and
is still in a good position to vie for a third
consecutive win.
Prince Boar's commentary:
I wonder why they keep talking about Lance And Jan
Ullrich as favorites when they cannot manage to even
break into the top 5. Perhaps when the road gets tough
in the Pyrenees. It is clear that Moreau of Team Festina
is the true favorite! :-)
Atleast a new great power gather some points as the
Turks' team, CSC takes the stage! Congratulations to Ali
Baba.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 10 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) 19-hours 32-minutes 49-seconds
3. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ :23
5. Igor Gonzalez Galdeano (ONC) @ :26
7. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ :27
8. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ :30
9. Florent Brard (FES) @ :30
-- Prince Boar
Message from Germany to England
Ivy:
> I still am talking to France (a lot; he is agressive and friendly), but you
> are still my first choice for an ally.
France certainly is easy to talk to. Probably why he's #1 (or
close) After some of the 'jerks' I'm been stuck with for allies
talking to him makes me think that this game will be more fun than some
of the other ones. Then I realize that he didn't get to be one of the
top seeds by NOT stabbing his partners at the right moment. The smile
is easy to see, but then so is the dagger.
So let's go for him. For no other reason than he's got to be the most
dangerous person in the game. Not that you're not, or I'm not, for
that matter. Germany is obviously a low seed. On the other hand,
perhaps it's better to fall under the radar screen in this game. ;-)
I am going to Burgundy, but it's a prearranged bounce. If you
arrange a bounce in the English Channel, the only move that he could
make is to Picardy or Spain. Probably Picardy, then move MAR - SPA in
the fall.
Bouncing means that I won't be in position to stop any action in
Belgium. This means that unless you arrange a bounce, France will be in
position to build three. On the other hand, he should know that if he
does that, EVERYONE will notice. (and attack)
This could mean that you could walk into Belgium in the fall. But
that'll be between the two of you.
I prefer a more aggressive route after the first build.
Fred IVXXX
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
It is close to decision time and I hope to hear from you one more time
before I enter my moves. Perhaps you might wish to choose from 1) to 5)
below or submit an original essay of your own.
1) I am moving to Piedmont with the intention of participating in a triple
attack on France.
2) I am moving to Piedmont, but am still uncertain whether I am going east
or west.
3) I prefer not to move to Piedmont.
4) You, Mr. Wingo, are a scoundrel, and I spit in your eye.
5) I prefer not to reveal my plans at this time.
[Germany tells me that he wants to join in an attack on France, but that
his moving to Burgundy is a prearranged bounce. So if you are in Piedmont,
the fall move Piedmont->Marseilles prevents France from taking Spain
without the loss of Marseilles.]
Obviously, I am making my final decision on whether to attempt the Channel.
Your response will enable me to decide whether to attack now or to hold
off and mave moves that enable me to ally with either France or Germany
later on.
Please understand that any response that you give me, including "no
comment," will not affect your good reputation in England.
Most sincerely,
Ivy
Message from England to France
Good Prince Boar,
>So have you heard much from Germany lately? I have heard
>from him only sparingly.
I wonder it the German really cares much about this game. He writes
briefly and infrequently. He does claim to be my ally and says he has
agreed to bounce you in Burgundy. His last message was about as long as
what I have just written. What he doesn't convey is any sense of
reliability or committment or zest for the endeavor.
Actually, press from others has diminished as well. We need to see moves
to get the blood stirring.
My wife and I saw a terrific movie last night. You would like the movie,
since it was in French (with subtitles for folks like me). "The Widow of
St. Pierre." Best movie I've seen in a year.
Also, I was out chasing butterflies today. Really! Life is so exciting.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Italy to Austria, England, France, Germany, Russia, and Turkey
My sincere apologies for less than punctual in returning press. Real life
as gotten the best of me the last couple of days. Don't feel 'special' that
you haven't heard from me the last couple of days - I've 'ignored' each of
you equally.
I promise first thing tomorrow morning (Friday) to send a message to all.
Once again, my apologies.
Life is Beautiful (except when it interferes with my Diplomacy),
Roberto
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 5 Results:
The fifth stage of the Tour de France is a team trial
stage. Each member of the team gets assigned the time of
the slowest member. The teams therefore ride together
and try to help each other. In most trials so far, the
difference between first and second place has been 0-3
seconds. In this stage Team Credit Agricole finished
almost a half a minute faster than the next team and
almost a minute ahead the the next. The fourth team,
USPS, was almost a minute and a half behind.
This is quite an accomplishment for Credit Agricole since
they were not expected to contend. They must have been
inspired by the fact that one of their team mates is
wearing the Yellow Jersey. O'Grady should hold that lead
for a while, perhaps until the Mountain stages.
NO one gets any points. But at least it is a French team
with the lead. Too bad it is not the one that is riding
for me (Festina).
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O'Grady (C.A.) 20 hours, 54 minutes 21 seconds
4. Igor G. Galdeano (ONC) @ :57
8. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ 1:17
15. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ 1:53
19. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ 2:20
24. Michael Boogerd (RAB) @ 2:47
Message from Germany to all
I will be away this weekend. So my next message to anyone will be on
Monday.
This will give you all a good opportunity to blame everything on me.
Sorry, but my schedule calls for me having way too much fun this
weekend.
Frederick XCMXXMVVIII the 3rd
Message from France to England
Ivy:
>I wonder it the German really cares much about
>this game.
Well, I have to tell you. I personally need an ally that
I can count out. I do not want to be struggling to
negotiate a tricky situation or not be able to discuss
some last minute cool plan that I have. Communication is
the key ingredient in an effective alliance. I think
that it is pretty obvious which ally I will choose. I
hope (believe?) that you feel the same way.
>agreed to bounce you in Burgundy.
Yes he suggested it. I agreed 3 days ago and last night
he did confirm it. I will move to MAO, Picardy and
Burgundy (bounce). How is that for showing some faith in
you? :-)
>My wife and I saw a terrific movie last night. You
>would like the movie, since it was in French (with
>subtitles for folks like me). "The Widow of
>St. Pierre." Best movie I've seen in a year.
I have not heard of it. But then again the only movies I
really get to see in a theater are made by Disney.
Perhaps I will rent it with Hidden Dragon, Crouching
Tiger, or whatever that movie is called. They both have
subtitles. At least I will not have to worry about the
Dauphin tagging along. He always asks me to explain
things to him, which is distracting. But he probably
will not like the movie that you suggested, no armies and
tanks, I am guessing.
I wish you the best of luck this season. May it be all
that you dream it will be.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Good Prince Boar,
[And to our Master, who probably intercepts the mail.]
Some fancy game this is. Turkey and Russia can't talk because of computer
problems. Germany is off in another world. Italy too is distracted. And
Austria - who is Austria talking to? Certainly not to England, but then
when do England and Austria ever talk in 1901?
It's impossible to get a conspiracy under way.
And Doug is saving all of this? What will future novices think when they
search these dispatches hoping for instruction and inspiration?
Me? I think I'll go away for a couple of months. Don't worry, I've phased
the next ten years of moves.
Actually I will be gone most of tomorrow, but expect to be able to check
the mail briefly in the morning and evening.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Italy to England
I'm afraid I'm going to have to compose my own entry #6.
6) I prefer not to move to Piedmont in the Spring of 1901 but would consider
the move at a later season in conjunction with a 3-way attack.
The advice I've received is that an immediate move to Piedmont is too easily
stopped by France and ties up too many of my units. My fear is that my
Austrian friend will be overrun by RT if I focus too much of my attention to
the west too soon.
> So if you are in Piedmont, the fall move Piedmont->Marseilles prevents
> France from taking Spain without the loss of Marseilles.]
Only if France makes a tactical mistake. If indeed FG have a pre-arranged
bounce in bur, then France should do either of 1) mar-spa which would leave
me with a guess as to whether or not to move into mar or 2) mar-bur and
par-gas which of course leaves France quite capable of capturing spa while
keeping mar.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to England
Ivy,
How are things going in the north? Haven't heard from you in a while. Hope
all is well on your end.
I must say, with the deadline fast approaching I still have few clues what
to expect. I will say that my negotiations with Russia have been
unproductive, though we may still work something out before the deadline.
Austria is urging me to join him in an anti-Russian campaign. Naturally I'm
curious about any potential English and German participation in such a plan,
but the German is being coy. He's hinted there's a possibility he may let
Russia into Sweden this year, although my impression is that's not been
decided yet. What are your thoughts on the subject?
In any case, I hope we won't lose touch. I look forward to hearing from you
when you get the chance.
Ali Baba
Message from France to all
What a lucky day to have our first deadline! My
astrologer says that it will be a good day for me. I
just do not know why he was sweating so much, the air
conditioning was on? At any rate, I am sending you all a
four-leaf clover, just to cover your fate. I have
millions of clover in my yard, it should not be hard to
find a few with four leaves.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Master to England and France
England said:
>[And to our Master, who probably intercepts the mail.]
Indeed.
>And Doug is saving all of this? What will future novices think when
>they search these dispatches hoping for instruction and inspiration?
Maybe everyone else is telepathic . . .
>Me? I think I'll go away for a couple of months. Don't worry, I've
>phased the next ten years of moves.
Holds and disbands, I presume . . .
;-)
Doug
Message from England to Turkey
Good Ali,
>How are things going in the north? Haven't heard from you in a while. Hope
>all is well on your end.
Yeah. I hope so too.
I do not know how the EFG triangle will resolve itself and do not expect to
know after the moves. I believe I know the exact German and French moves,
and they are entirely conventional and flexible.
>Austria is urging me to join him in an anti-Russian campaign. Naturally I'm
>curious about any potential English and German participation in such a plan,
>but the German is being coy.
I know of no plans by Germany to hinder Russia, and I will tell you that I
have no intention of troubling Russia anytime soon. Of course, if Russia
were in a state of decline it would only be natural for Germany to eye
Sweden and for me to eye StP.
>He's hinted there's a possibility he may let
>Russia into Sweden this year, although my impression is that's not been
>decided yet. What are your thoughts on the subject?
I think it is still conventional for Germany to permit Russia to enter
Sweden and more radical to bounce him out of Sweden. Given the caution
that I perceive in Germany, I would be surprised if he does bounce Russia.
But then, I get surprised a lot in this business.
Also, I suspect that Italy will do the usual, i.e. work somehow to the
east, but I don't know who (whom?) he prefers over there.
Ivy
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
Thank you most sincerely. Your response has been very helpful to me.
>> So if you are in Piedmont, the fall move Piedmont->Marseilles prevents
>> France from taking Spain without the loss of Marseilles.]
>
>Only if France makes a tactical mistake.
I have done my best to persuade on the basis of strategy. Given what I
know about the German and French moves, it is tempting to continue the
discussion on tactical grounds. But I sense the hour is too late for that
and you have made up your mind. Let's hope we can work together in the
future.
Did you ever see the old Bob Hope movie, The Paleface," in which he sings,
"East is East and West is West ... "?
Please do good work in the East. You will need to be very strong in the
mid-game if we hope to work together.
Most cordially,
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to Germany
Dear Freddy IVXMC,
Hope you have a nice weekend. Just heard from Roberto, and he does not
want to move to Piedmont. Given the fact that Munich->B will not go
through, but only bounce, I think it best that I too take a cautious
approach this spring.
Let's talk on Monday after you get back.
Your friend,
Ivy
Message from England to France
Good Prince,
You may wish to know that I have in hand a flurry of last minute
dispatches. If there ever was a danger to the French regime, that danger
has passed.
Congratulations.
I hope that I am in the same situation.
I truly, truly wish that you and I live to fight it out as old men. As
young men, we first have the world to conquer. I echo your earlier
thoughts on our compatibility. You are the kind of partner that I look for
in this business. In spite of all the hype for "titleist" no one else is
measuring up. Probably the timing was bad.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nicky,
It's been a while since we last chatted. Nothing has changed.
I believe that Germany will permit you to walk into Sweden. Neither of us
have ever discussed any anti-Russian possibilities. That's a little
strange actually, now that I think of it.
I have no idea how the Russia/Austria/Turkey situation is working out, but
if you run into trouble, it won't come from the north.
Good luck,
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
>I truly, truly wish that you and I live to fight it out
>as old men. As young men, we first have the world to
>conquer. I echo your earlier thoughts on our
>compatibility
Hear hear!
I just wish that we could get started on it! I have my
orders in, without wait. But it seems that someone has
not yet sent in orders. I can't image being late when we
had 10 days to negotiate! :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from Master to all
Moves are due tonight, everyone. Some have 'wait' set, which is perfectly
fine. But if someone has failed to submit orders after ten days of
negotiation, I'm going to be upset . . .
Also, the following deadlines will be at 48hr intervals, not landing on
weekends. So this game is destined to pick up speed.
Doug
Message from Germany to England
Ivy:
I think we'll all take a cautious approach the first turn. Waiting for
someone else to make a mistake being a common tactic.
I also heard the Italy wasn't going to Piedmont. It remains to be seen
if he goes to TYR. I wouldn't like that if I were Austria, especially
if the army in Rome follows to Venice.
Have a good weekend.
I've noticed that France sends out about three times as much mail as
anyone else. But then we're also getting updates on the TDF.
Fredi
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>I believe that Germany will permit you
>to walk into Sweden. Neither of us have
>ever discussed any anti-Russian
>possibilities. That's a little strange
>actually, now that I think of it.
Hmmm, everyone seems to think I'll
get Sweden except me. Perhaps Freddy is
being more circumspect with me than with
everyone else. The lack of anti-Russian
discussion is heartening, though.
Austria claims that there has been
no mention from Germany regarding the
standard German-Austrian hopes for mutual
success that is normally a corner-stone of
AG relations. Freddy seems to be an odd
fish, all the way around.
>I have no idea how the Russia/Austria/Turkey
>situation is working out,
Neither do I, unfortunately.
Hopefully the Archduke and Ali are as
unsure as I am. 8-) I guess we'll see
who breaks their promises, and who
doesn't, soon enough.
France and I have mostly
discussed the Tour and Lenin's attempts
to unionize the Robobank team of late,
and I've still heard nothing from Italy.
Your Friend,
Nicky.
Austria: Army Budapest → Serbia
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Albania
Austria: Army Vienna → Trieste (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Edinburgh → Norwegian Sea
England: Army Liverpool → Yorkshire
England: Fleet London → North Sea
France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Marseilles → Burgundy (*bounce*)
France: Army Paris → Picardy
Germany: Army Berlin → Kiel
Germany: Fleet Kiel → Denmark
Germany: Army Munich → Burgundy (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Rome → Apulia
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Moscow → St Petersburg
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) → Gulf of Bothnia
Russia: Army Warsaw → Ukraine
Turkey: Fleet Ankara → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Smyrna → Constantinople
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