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England: Builds 2 units
France: Builds 2 units
Germany: Removes 3 units
Russia: Builds 1 unit
Message from Russia to all
>Movement results for Fall of 1907. (titleist.029)
>
>England: 8 Supply centers, 6 Units: Builds 2 units.
>France: 9 Supply centers, 7 Units: Builds 2 units.
>Germany: 0 Supply centers, 3 Units: Removes 3 units.
>Italy: 8 Supply centers, 8 Units: Builds 0 units.
>Russia: 4 Supply centers, 3 Units: Builds 1 unit.
>Turkey: 5 Supply centers, 5 Units: Builds 0 units.
Hmmm, lied to, and/or stabbed by three different Powers,
and I still gained a Center. Interesting...
Message from Turkey to England and France
Gentlemen,
Well, it seems part of my predictions have come true. The two of you seem to
have forged a healthy alliance, you're both prospering well from it, and
Germany was quickly destroyed. Congratulations to you both.
Unfortunately, my Italian nemesis remains strong. I do not know why he has
decided to suicide against me, though I have some guesses. However, none of
them help me on the board. Clearly, he is counting on an eventual falling-out
between you, and is hoping that England will attack France soon.
So, I thought I'd drop you a line to encourage you both to stay the course.
There are still many centers for you both to gain by continuing to sweep
eastward. Conflict between the two of you is just as counterproductive for
both of you as it has ever been, if not more so.
Anyway, congratulations again, and I hope you will continue on in alliance
until you jointly control the remainder of the board.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Turkey to France
Prince Boar,
It sure looks like you're having a cakewalk against Italy. I'm glad to see
it. Roberto seems to be counting on the premise that he can destroy me before
you destroy him. At this rate, it looks like he may succeed. I urge you in
the strongest terms possible to continue against him, and I can only promise
to hold out as long as I can.
I repeat my message from my joint press in that I sincerely hope you and
England will continue in alliance. If you engaged in conflict with England
now, then Italy will be free to wipe me off the board. Once that happens, you
*know* he's going to try to regain his home centers. Far better for France to
eliminate him entirely, or at least drive him down to the point where he no
longer poses a significant threat to French interests.
Congratulations again, and I hope to see French armies in the center of the
board soon.
Ali
Message from England to all
Fredd,
I enjoyed our partnership. Seriously.
And we still have eight units between us!
Take care.
Ivy
Message from Turkey to England
Ivy,
Looks like it was a good thing I moved to Mos. Otherwise Russia would build
and the situation would be very different.
My situation, unfortunately, is becoming more and more hopeless. I'll be able
to defend my home centers for this year at least, but I'm sure to lose either
Sev or Mos in the meanwhile. But, I will hold on as long as I can, and will
do what I can to assist you during that time.
I do hope you and France will continue as allies, at least for another year or
two. I realize France seems to have an easy time with Italy turning over his
centers the way he is. But long-term, it looks pretty certain that Italy will
succeed in his mission to wipe me off the map. Once that happens, he will
surely come back and try to reclaim his homeland. And at that point, you'll
be holding all the cards.
In any case, if you have any thoughts on what I should do with A Mos next
year, please let me know.
Ali
Message from Turkey to Master
Turkey's EOY for 1907
Well, things certainly haven't gone my way these last few years. My moves
have not been overly inspired, but really there hasn't been much I could do.
Italy's decision to devote all his resources to me without regard for losing
his home centers is just not something I can counter. I had hoped that by
encouraging EF alliance, and getting France into the Med, I could get Italy to
back off. But that clearly hasn't happened, and there are no indications it
will happen any time soon.
I've been trying to figure out why "Roberto" is so determined to attack only
me despite French pressure. My theory, which I hope is not true, is that this
is the same person who played Italy in my round 2 game, that he's recognized
who I am, and that he's paying me back for taking the solo in that game. It
would be sad to see an otherwise good game spoiled by such suicidal
cross-gaming motivations, but the Italian from my round 2 game did promise to
come gunning for me if he found out who I was in Titleist.
At any rate, about all I can do at this point is try to hold on with both
hands, and try to keep EF moving east. I don't hold much hope for survival
any more, especially after stabbing Russia for a 3rd time. My move to Moscow
was purely motivated by the fact that England requested it, and I'm eager to
do what I can to help England offset France's easy gains in Italy.
For the next year, it looks like I'll be able to hold onto my home centers,
but I'm sure to lose Mos, Sev or both. Unless a miracle occurs... but I'm
sure not expecting it. Since Italy won't even talk to me, I really have no
tools available to counter his overwhelming numerical superiority.
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Is there nothing I can do to get you to cease your hostilities against me? Is
there nothing I can say to convince you to even talk to me?
I *still* do not understand your motivations here. You seem to be holding out
hope that England will attack France as a result of your throwing centers to
him. But England still has lots of opportunities without even looking at
France, and I will do what little I can to keep him on that track.
It is clear that you'll be able to eliminate me before France can eliminate
you. But then what do you do, hole up in Austria and hope you never lose any
units, and that you can work your way into a 3-way? I suppose it's possible,
but I think it highly unlikely you'll be able to survive in a draw without
your homeland. And if you go back to reclaim your home centers after the fact
then (1) they'll be difficult to regain, and (2) that essentially just throws
the game to England, which doesn't do you much good does it?
If you've lost interest in the game, and have simply decided to suicide in
some spectacular way, well, I guess that's your choice. But in my opinion,
frankly, it degrades an otherwise good game, and I think it's a damn shame.
Ali
Message from Master to all
Thank you for playing, Germany. The end came much more suddenly
than I expected! Please write up an EOG statement and "press to m"
(or broadcast, if you prefer). You can also write one at game's
end, but I'd prefer one now, if it's not too much trouble.
Doug
Message from Italy to Turkey
Have you never made an error in judgement before in a Diplomacy game?
Rhetorical question, no need to answer.
It's a damn shame I stabbed you.
It's a damn shame Germany moved to Tyrolia.
It's a damn shame France moved to the West Med.
The game is full of damn shames. In a normal Diplomacy game, you'd have a
very strong position right now as Italy would have moved to defend against
France. But, this isn't a normal Diplomacy game now is it. If you haven't
figured that out yet, you haven't been paying attention.
There was one time, and one time only, in this game that you should have
trusted me. It's a damn shame you didn't.
> Is there nothing I can do to get you to cease
> your hostilities against me?
No, not any more.
Idalia
Message from Turkey to Italy
Well, at least I finally got you to reply.
> There was one time, and one time only, in this game that you should have
> trusted me. It's a damn shame you didn't.
What would make me trust you after you'd stabbed me twice?
Why did everything rest on that one action?
Why do you not even care that you're losing your home centers?
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> What would make me trust you after you'd stabbed me twice?
>
Your Diplomacy intuition that you were patting yourself on the back with
earlier in the game.
> Why did everything rest on that one action?
>
Because I said so.
> Why do you not even care that you're losing your home centers?
>
Because I don't.
Idalia
Message from Turkey to Italy
You certainly sound very bitter. Hopefully some day I'll learn why that
bitterness is directed against me. Hopefully it at least has *something* to
do with my actions in this game.
Oh, and why are you signing your letters "Idalia"? Is that supposed to be
some kind of hint? Is the Archduke now controlling Italian units? That would
explain much, I suppose.
Ali
Message from France to Turkey
Ali:
Thank you for your kind words. I hope that England and I
can keep things together. Unfortunately your move to
Moscow makes that harder. England now has nothing to
threaten him. You may have been better served giving up
that unit and then having me feel more secure so I could
have gone all out after Italy. England was always
holding me back, but with Germany gone I could have done
everything to hurt Italy. Now I have to worry about how
much to leave in defense of the potential stab by
England. I suppose that it was my fault for not
discussing it with you. Sorry for that.
As for your question on why Italy is suiciding against
you. I truly do not know, although it greatly favors me.
I think that it started as a threat to England: attack
France or I will let him grow and be dangerous. Now I
wonder if he simply wants to take your corner as a safe
haven in hopes of being in the draw.
What is your relationship/position with Russia. Is there
any chance of working with him to slow down England, or
at least allowing him to defend himself against England?
--Prince Boar
Message from France to all
I suggest that EoG statements be held private to the
end, but certainly can be sent to the master anytime.
Germany can of course broadcast anything
he chooses. I personally would like to know how
me managed all those dates in hot tubs! :-)
Seems like a more useful skill than knowing
stalemate lines!
France
Message from Germany to all
Germany EOG.
One message to cover the whole game. Boy that's a tough one, this
game has already taken much more time than I thought it would. So I'll
keep it short, or at least try.
The most important move of the game. That's easy. England going into
the North Sea. It forced me to pull back my attack on England, and to
pull out of helping England attack France. Of course, it's my belief
that that's exactly what England wanted. I was going to become too
powerful if I gobbled up Russia. Plus I believe that England had decided
that he couldn't get through France so might as well switch directions.
Every move he made from that move on was a swing of his forces toward
me. I knew it was coming, and made many attempts to counter, all to no
avail.
The most important date. Sept 11. It was during this spell that my
fate was sealed. I was pretty sure of the EF juggernaut in the west.
Therefore I needed builds right then. I approached Turkey about
supporting me against Russia, but he did not respond from Sept 11 until
the next moves processed. Obviously he didn't want to go in that
direction, but what really chapped my hide was that he spent weeks as
the silent type then he sent a message within hours of the moves
processing. I wouldn't talk to him the rest of my existence.
Friends or people that I enjoyed playing with. Nobody.
Austria and I must have exchanged 3 messages the whole game. Almost all
of my press to him went unanswered.
Italy - Decent enough except for my final move when he was supposed to
support me into WAR. Chalk up one more stab for Robbie.
Turkey - see above. What's the point of this game if you don't talk.
Russia - What a pain in the butt. Never could he be convinced of
mutually beneficial moves. Always he would go back to moves that would
solely benefit himself. This is why we fought the whole game. His last
laugh is that I'm out before him. My laugh is that he'll be gone very
very soon. I fail to see the difference.
England - I can see why he did what he did. He's much better off this
way. It'll be interesting to see if its him or France who wins.
I believe that he missed one of the best stab opportunities a little
while ago when he didn't attack France. I would have taken it.
France - Probably going to win. Playing a great game. Stalemated
Englands attack and got him to turn toward me. (I wonder how much press
it took to get England to go into the North Sea) He's also got Italy to
totally turn over his entire homeland to him. I wonder if he won't be
able to talk England into accepting 2nd place?
Fredd
Chow
richolver@home.com has resigned richolver@home.com
as Germany in game 'titleist'.
Message from Germany to all
> Broadcast message from France in 'titleist':
>
> I suggest that EoG statements be held private to the
> end, but certainly can be sent to the master anytime.
Ya gotta love it. The person who has sent out more press than anyone
whom I've ever played against, wants to be a censor.
What could any EOG message say that hasn't been said in private many
times?
I thought I'd do it now. I doubt if I'll care at the end. This game lost
it's importance for me about 6 weeks ago. Not that I think there should
be an asterick after the winners name. The winner (who ever it is) will
have certainly earned the title.
Stab you later
I'm looking at getting my own hot tub ;-)
Freddy
England: BUILD Army Edinburgh
England: BUILD Army London
France: BUILD Fleet Brest
France: BUILD Army Marseilles
Germany: REMOVE Army Silesia
Germany: REMOVE Fleet Skagerrak
Germany: REMOVE Army Tyrolia
Russia: WAIVE
Centers
England: 8
France: 9
Italy: 8
Russia: 4
Turkey: 5
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