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England: Builds 1 unit
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Removes 1 unit
Russia: Builds 2 units
Turkey: Removes 1 unit
Message from Turkey to Russia
No problem, Erik, I figured it was coming (as you said). Now we can give
the oberservers a real show! :-)
jason
Message from Austria to Russia
> Well, surprisingly, my gambles all paid off -- at least in the short term. I
> can't tell you how much I fretted over Rum-Bul vs Rum H. Changed it several
> times, and your last note suggesting it would be best move was the hardest to
> refute. In the end I went with my gut (influenced by your intel) and the
> result is a moveset that I don't think could have been better on our side.
> Wow.
>
> I'll be interested to see Jason's retreat. Does he take a center off of Andy
> to keep the pressure on me, or does he disband as a peace offfering?
> Strategically the army is probably more important, but it's a tough balance
> of position vs. diplomacy.
With a fleet in Gre, it's really going to be easier to maneuver next year :-)
> The only bad thing is that Andy is set up to force Tri come Spring. We'll
> have to figure out what we want to do about that. I'm thinking F Sev and A
> War, force Turkey south, and then we should be able to get you a center to
> compensate for Tri. But frankly, your ideas have been better than mine
> recently, so I'd like to hear what you think as well.
F Sev & A War are really your best build. Depending on how things
played out, it might even be possible to retain Trieste.
> And if I haven't said it enough, your help has been invaluable. Not just the
> supports you've offered, but the suggestions have generally been things I
> haven't thought of myself. While I haven't followed them all to the letter,
> they've been really good for pointing out what I'm missing in the strategic
> picture.
Thanks. Without knowing that England was ok with an alliance with
you, it was hard to suggest appropriate moves for the north of course.
Philippe
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
Well, based on what I'm hearing, the STL (which, to my eyes, should be "Saint Louis") has formed around you.
I have not decided what to do yet long-term, but I am hoping to come to an agreement for an English DEN during this coming year. Considering you've already offered it, it shouldn't be too hard. . .
Ben
Message from Russia to England
I knew moving as I did last season was going to lead to STL behavior, but I
didn't really see a choice: I needed to get some builds to ward off Jason.
I can lose centers in the north to you, or I can lose centers in the south
to him, but I couldn't afford to lose centers in both places, because then
neither area would be defensible.
Yes, Den being yours is easy to agree to, especially given that there's
nothing I could do to stop you anyway. :)
So how would you like to go about accomplishing getting Den to you?
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> I knew moving as I did last season was going to lead to STL
> behavior, but I
> didn't really see a choice: I needed to get some builds to
> ward off Jason.
Oh, I understand. I wouldn't have done anything differently, in your shoes,
I don't think.
> I can lose centers in the north to you, or I can lose centers
> in the south
> to him, but I couldn't afford to lose centers in both places,
> because then neither area would be defensible.
"I don't even exercise."
> Yes, Den being yours is easy to agree to, especially given
> that there's
> nothing I could do to stop you anyway. :)
:-)
> So how would you like to go about accomplishing getting Den to you?
I hadn't given it much thought yet. *yawn*
So, you're a Panthers fan now?
;-)
Ben
Message from Russia to Turkey
Hey Jason,
I'm not sure how thrilling it will be for the observers to watch us mud
wrestle on the shores of the Bla, but I appreciate your enthusiasm. :)
I'm not expecting to sway you now, but it looks to me like us fighting is
likely to lead to Italy removing you at some point. I'm happy to work out
an arrangement that keeps you from being eliminated if you ever start
feeling your head on the chopping block. Just keep that in mind as we go
forward.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to England
Ben,
> > I can lose centers in the north to you, or I can lose centers
> > in the south
> > to him, but I couldn't afford to lose centers in both places,
> > because then neither area would be defensible.
>"I don't even exercise."
And I don't get the comment. :)
> > So how would you like to go about accomplishing getting Den to you?
>I hadn't given it much thought yet. *yawn*
Clearly I need to work more on my motivational skills.
>So, you're a Panthers fan now?
>
>;-)
Yes indeed. The irony is that I'm only through the 3rd quarter of the game
on the Tivo, so I think you just told me the ending. (Not a problem, just
funny). Panthers are the much better choice to me, but it's still not like
I have much of an investment in them, so much as against the Pats.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Russia
Well, that was a fantastic result on the moves, given that I could easily
have gone down five centers (Bur S Mun, England takes Den, Bul S Ser,
Gal-War, Bla-Sev). I knew it was a possibility to get two builds, but I
certainly never counted on it.
Now that I've got those two centers, I can deal with an StL alliance for a
while: at least I will have a defensible southern front, and if I take Ber
(hopefully keeping the fleet from Den in play) it means that my northern
defenses are self-supporting (three units, three centers) which is
important. The StL looks like it should be pretty unstable, as EF, FI and
IT should all have misgivings about getting whittled, so I may just have to
hope that someone to breaks away.
I finally started counting centers (yes it took me this long to start).
From where I am, Turkey and the Balkans gets a solo. That would require
active assistance from Erik to hold Scandinavia, which seems unlikely.
Alternately, there's losing Sca, gaining Ber (and maybe Kie) and taking
Turkey and Italy. Again, it requires help in some form from Erik, but not
immediately, so that's more likely. Either way he could be the key, which
means that perhaps it was a mistake to not support him to Mun. Certainly
looks like I could be chastised for that choice.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
You never answered my last message. Are you going to be helping me with
your counsel, or are you helping everyone else?
--- Eric
Message from Russia to France
Hey Erik, (and I'm the one guy in this game that should consistently spell
that correctly!)
I haven't heard from you, which I expect means that there's a
stop-the-leader forming. Not that I blame anyone for that -- those last
moves did ask for it. I had hoped to be able to keep your friendship, but I
didn't want to risk leaving Tony's army alive in Mun if you didn't move
there (that is, I didn't want to order support for Bur-Mun without knowing
you were actually ordering Bur-Mun).
From where I sit, I'm likely to lose dots in Scandinavia, which will lead
to England getting lots of builds, and Turkey is going to have to turn his
back on Italy. That's likely to lead to you getting stuck between E and I.
As I said, I assume your silence means that you have joined a StL alliance,
so won't expect to cooperate now. But that said, keep in mind that I'm
happy to work with you if you start feeling squeezed by your neighbors.
Hol, Kie, Den, mainland England, and possibly more of Scandinavia are all
centers that I can offer up as part of cooperating.
Not trying to convince you now, just want you to keep it in mind for when
it becomes relevant.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Austria
Sounds like we've got an StL going. Not a surprise. I guess we'll need to
see how the builds go before talking too much strategy, but I'll be
surprised if Turkey doesn't disband EMS. Still, the choice to disband Ser
makes me wonder about his thinking.
Talk to you soon,
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
LOL, Sorry Eric. I am still suffering from the aftershock of my problems
with floc.net and my 26 games.
I am currently still sifting through sevral games to be sure the late
notices (and there are quite a few) are not due to me. I know floc.net is up
to date now I want to make sure my moves/press are.
I havent spoken in this game since my last post.
Hope to be back on track tomorrow and thereafter.
Tony
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> > > to him, but I couldn't afford to lose centers in both places,
> > > because then neither area would be defensible.
> >"I don't even exercise."
>
> And I don't get the comment. :)
"[something something] No weapons. Skill and skill alone."
"You mean, I put down my sword, and you put down your rock, and we try to
kill each other like civilized people?"
"I can't help being the biggest and the strongest. I don't even exercise."
> > > So how would you like to go about accomplishing getting Den to you?
> >I hadn't given it much thought yet. *yawn*
>
> Clearly I need to work more on my motivational skills.
Yawning for the passage of time; no reflection on the brilliance of your
motivational technique. How would you suggest I take it?
> >So, you're a Panthers fan now?
> Yes indeed. The irony is that I'm only through the 3rd quarter of the game
> on the Tivo, so I think you just told me the ending. (Not a problem, just
> funny). Panthers are the much better choice to me, but it's still not like
> I have much of an investment in them, so much as against the Pats.
I figured. The games this weekend were a downer, but exactly as I
expected. Carolina was the anti-Philly, and the Colts offense had grown
fat and lazy beating up the junior varsity defenses. . .
I have no big rooting interest. My guess is Carolina will win the Super
Bowl, though the peculiar Patriots offense may be the antidote for the
Carolina defense - that will be an interesting matchup. If Brady's uniform
is still clean(ish) at halftime, Pats win.
Ben
England: BUILD Army Edinburgh
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: REMOVE Army Ruhr
Russia: BUILD Fleet Sevastopol
Russia: BUILD Army Warsaw
Turkey: REMOVE Fleet Eastern Mediterranean
Centers
Austria: 2
England: 6
France: 6
Italy: 5
Russia: 11
Turkey: 4
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