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Message from Austria to Turkey
> My apologies at the lateness - it's been a busy few days.
>
> Thanks for the IR warning.
No problem, even though IR are both playing for strong positions,
things are not as clear as I thought between those two. Anyway,
given the end results, I'm not surprise that you didn't take my
warning too seriously.
Regarding this fall, have you figured out a plan yet and will there be
any place in it for me, beside getting attacked that is?
Philippe
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi Eric,
It's a good thing that I opted for Tri-Ven instead of Tri-Ser :-)
On your side, I'm not sure why you decided to hold in Den &
Stp, but it's too late to do anything about it.
Now, how do you want to handle the presence of a Turkish
army in Gal? If Jason doesn't perceived me to be a firm ally
of yours, wich I'm hoping he won't so I can better help you,
I wouldn't expect him to try for War when he can attack Bud
or Rum with it, so War should be safe unless you want to
dislodged him from there.
As for Rum, it's nice to see that you were able to take it, but
I doubt it can be retained, so we might has well use it to cut
Ser's support while I support you in (or support me in, but
Bud's support can be cut by Gal).
Not knowing your intent, and probably with many mistakes,
here's what I would suggest:
Austria:
-Vie-Bud (bounce Gal-Bud since an attack involving Gal will
probably not see Gal support it)
-Tri s Bud-Ser
Russia:
-Bud-Ser (sure to work unless Gal support Ser-Bud wich isn't
very likely)
-Rum-Bul (cut Ser's support while it will have to retreat to Sev)
-Sil-Ber
-Tyr-Mun
-Boh s Tyr-Mun
-Ukr-War or hold
-Stp-Mos if Ukr-War (Help with Sev since an attack on Nwy
this fall isn't likely with two units to defend it)
-Swe-Nwy & Den-Ska or Swe-Fin & Den-Swe (depending
on how you think England will use it's fleet in Ska)
Hopefully, we should be able to compensate your loss of
territory with new gains this fall.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Austria
Whatever it's worth, Eric came through and I will surely spend
the rest of the game as Russia's janissary; but it doesn't mean
that I will stop talking to others. The last thing I want to see is
everyone focusing on taking out Russia's puppet and who
knows what's going to happen.
Message from Austria to Italy
> So, help me out here...
>
> How did this make your position better?
It doesn't really; but I didn't believe you were sincere this
turn, so I expected you to position yourself for after my
elimination (maybe even pick Tri for yourself).
Oh surprise! You didn't move to Boh and try to get Tus
in Ven. If this was all a friendly gesture, why not tell me
about it in advance?
Philippe
Message from Turkey to Austria
Well, I did take your warning somewhat seriously, but I can't say I
expected a supported attack on Rum. I figured he'd defend Sev instead.
Regardless, yes, I think there is a place for you in the plan. I won't
be supporting Bud this coming turn, although with Russia breathing down
your neck, you might not be able to take advantage of it. What would you
like from me?
jason
Message from Austria to Turkey
> Well, I did take your warning somewhat seriously, but I can't say I
> expected a supported attack on Rum. I figured he'd defend Sev instead.
>
> Regardless, yes, I think there is a place for you in the plan. I won't
> be supporting Bud this coming turn, although with Russia breathing down
> your neck, you might not be able to take advantage of it. What would you
> like from me?
Thanks for the quick response. Just knowing that I'm
not a target of yours is good to know. As for more, I
will need some time to look at a map and figure it out.
One thing is sure, the more sc you take from Russia
and Italy, the safer I will be.
Philippe
Message from Germany to Austria and Turkey
Hi guys, still hard to figure out what is going on over there. That means
that I can feel free to give advice which may sound a load of bull. VIE -
BUD supported by TRI. BUL - RUM supported by SER. GAL - WAR and BLA - SEV.
Hahahahahaha..... or not? either way my time is limited. Those that are
about to die salute you.
Tony
Message from Austria to Turkey
(second copy since first one seem lost in cyberspace)
> Well, I did take your warning somewhat seriously, but I can't say I
> expected a supported attack on Rum. I figured he'd defend Sev instead.
>
> Regardless, yes, I think there is a place for you in the plan. I won't
> be supporting Bud this coming turn, although with Russia breathing down
> your neck, you might not be able to take advantage of it. What would you
> like from me?
Thanks for the quick response. Just knowing that I'm
not a target of yours is good to know. As for a plan
of my own, I would need some time to look at a map.
One thing is sure, the more sc you take from Russia
and Italy, the safer I will be.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> It doesn't really; but I didn't believe you were sincere this
> turn, so I expected you to position yourself for after my
> elimination (maybe even pick Tri for yourself).
Thats fair.
>
> Oh surprise! You didn't move to Boh and try to get Tus
> in Ven. If this was all a friendly gesture, why not tell me
> about it in advance?
I changed my orders at the 11th hour...
Because until I got buy in from other powers to slow down the Russian, my
your stab would have worked.
When 2 people told me that you had told them that we hadnt spoken at all I
decided to cover my bases.
Message from Turkey to Austria
Well, I'll see what I can do for you. Good luck holding on. If you want
to go with Germany's suggestion, let me know.
jason
Message from Turkey to Austria and Germany
Thanks for the suggestions. Very aggressive, but certainly will hurt if
it works.
jason
Message from Austria to Russia
Eric,
Have you receive my last press?
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Sorry. Yes, I got your press. I read it, and that was the last time I was
able to read personal email until now. If Jason is to be believed, he's not
really miffed about F Rum (of course, that could be a lie). If he isn't, he
might attack Andy, which could be good. I'm inclined to go with your
suggestions in the south, and will not likely have time to review things.
In the north, Den H was a mistake - F Bal is much more useful, esp. since Den
is not salvageable. Too late to realize it, but there you have it. StP H was
to make sure that Nwy could be held while still hedging against a convoy into
Sev. Probably not a good move.
My main question for you is strategic, not tactical: is it more important to
try to eliminate (or hamstring) Jason now, which helps Andy, or should we try
to get the two of them to fight some more. Andy thinks that with F Rum that
Jason will not be after him. My original plan was that once Jason took Gre
(which he still might), then we can attack him when he has no chance of
getting any more builds. Now that I stuck him in Gal (ack) and he can still
pick up Gre, there's the concern that with a build it'll be hard to press
him.
If I take Ser/Rum, then I should hold even in centers -- or get a build if
I'm lucky in the north. If you take Ser, then you could build a fleet, which
eventually is going to be important if we want to put pressure on Ven, but A
Gal will probably kill me in the meantime. That's as far as my thinking has
gotten at this point.
So attacking Jason is fine, I just want it to be clear that there's a good
chance he'd disband Aeg/EMS and then Andy would be the one to benefit.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Austria
You gonna lay down and die or will i see the AT attack on Russia
materialize?
Good luck
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
I salute you, my distant friend.
If you don't mind me asking, what's in the cards over there this year? I'll be glad to keep the information to myself, if you ask, or to dispense it, if you would prefer.
But it is affecting my plans & I am hoping you will be willing to share.
Best of luck, holding what you've got.
Ben
Message from Austria to Turkey
> Well, I'll see what I can do for you. Good luck holding on. If you want
> to go with Germany's suggestion, let me know.
Hi Jason,
Sorry, I got really busy and had some internet problems.
Obviously, I haven't had much time to think about it and
I'm prepare to defer to your judgement regarding the
situation.
How do you want to go about it exactly?
Philippe
Message from Austria to Italy
> I changed my orders at the 11th hour...
>
> Because until I got buy in from other powers to slow down the Russian, my
> your stab would have worked.
>
> When 2 people told me that you had told them that we hadnt spoken at all I
> decided to cover my bases.
In response to his three way press, I did tell Tony that you
didn't reply to my own press and that I didn't believe you
when you finally did, but I find it hard to believe you would
actually use this to justify your moves.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi Eric,
Sorry for the delay, outside interference :-)
> My main question for you is strategic, not tactical: is it more important to
> try to eliminate (or hamstring) Jason now, which helps Andy, or should we try
> to get the two of them to fight some more. Andy thinks that with F Rum that
> Jason will not be after him. My original plan was that once Jason took Gre
> (which he still might), then we can attack him when he has no chance of
> getting any more builds. Now that I stuck him in Gal (ack) and he can still
> pick up Gre, there's the concern that with a build it'll be hard to press
> him.
With France ready to move in the Med. now that England
is moving north, I wouldn't worry too much about helping
Andy; but if you think it's preferable, and possible, to get
the two of them fighting, this is something else.
> If I take Ser/Rum, then I should hold even in centers -- or get a build if
> I'm lucky in the north. If you take Ser, then you could build a fleet, which
> eventually is going to be important if we want to put pressure on Ven, but A
> Gal will probably kill me in the meantime. That's as far as my thinking has
> gotten at this point.
While a fleet on the other side of Jason will be usefull to us
in the long term, it wouldn't be able to cooperate with the
rest of our forces in the mean time, unless you want to help
France wich would tend to favor his development more then
yours. So, I think supporting you in is the best move.
By the way, Tony has suggested a crazy plan to AT and I'm
getting back to Jason who wanted to know if I wanted to go
for it. In this plan, I'm to support myself in Bud while Jason
go for Bul-Rum supported by Ser, Bla-Sev & Gal-War. If
Jason really mean to go for this plan, we would simply need
to send Ukr to Sev instead of War & Sil to War instead of
Ber to see you get Ser & keep Rum.
Anyway, I will let you know when I hear back from him and
I'm entering Tri s a bud-ser & Vie-Bud as per my suggestion
in the mean time.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
> > When 2 people told me that you had told them that we hadnt spoken at all I
> > decided to cover my bases.
>
> In response to his three way press, I did tell Tony that you
> didn't reply to my own press and that I didn't believe you
> when you finally did, but I find it hard to believe you would
> actually use this to justify your moves.
Not really justify. Tell you what I was thinking.
I got a feeling that you werent being totally honest with me.
Russia and Germany are the 2 people that told me.
Message from Germany to all
Once again I have found myself seduced by Russia, England & France
I will roll a dice
1 = ruh - hol, mun - kie
2 = mun - kie supported by ruh
3 = ruh - kie supported by mun
4 = mun - ber, ruh - kie
5 = ruh s mun, mun s pie - tyr
6 = ruh - hol, mun - ber
7 = ruh hold, mun hold
No blowing or making sudden movements once I release the dice
Message from Germany to all
Dice rolled.....thanks for not influencing the outcome ;-)
Message from Turkey to Austria
I'll take out Bud, so if you just mutually support, you should be fine.
If he goes Bud - Tri, Boh S Tyr - Vie, you'll lose it, but nothing we
can do about that.
jason
Message from Austria to Italy
> Not really justify. Tell you what I was thinking.
OK, but it is funny to see you refer to Tri-Ven as an austrian stab.
> I got a feeling that you werent being totally honest with me.
>
> Russia and Germany are the 2 people that told me.
Unless you are refering to my explaining to Russia I wasn't taking
the time to negociate with anyone before the adjustment when I
came back from the holydays, I must say I'm clueless as to what
you are refering to; and I doubt it's that as I was talking about
your lack of participation in putting forth a strategy to take on RT
in the SPRING, beside sending me curt replies that weren't at all
reassuring of course.
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi,
If I'm to believe him, Jason is going for the attack
on Bud instead and I'm simply to self-support
what I have still left.
So, it seem my evaluation of the board was right
and Tony's plan was just a crazy thought on his
part.
Good luck,
Philippe
Message from Austria to Turkey
> I'll take out Bud, so if you just mutually support, you should be fine.
> If he goes Bud - Tri, Boh S Tyr - Vie, you'll lose it, but nothing we
> can do about that.
The understanding being that Bud will be ceded to
me afterward I hope...
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Quick notes.
Sounds like it's then likely that Vie-Bud will bounce. I shouldn't need to
move anything to Vie (to ensure I don't lose units), but I'll consider it if
I've got spares. (Don't worry -- if I move in that direction, I won't do it
with support, regardless).
I greatly appreciate the intel you've been providing. FWIW, Andy seems
confident that he can't trust anything you say, but he's still worried about
Jason and Erik. I don't know that you'll be able to trust him with
confidential info, but there's a chance we can keep them squabbling over Gre.
If there's anything else I'll try to drop you a line, but I realize it may
already be past your last mail check as it is.
Take care, and good luck.
--- Eric
Austria: Army Trieste SUPPORT Russian Army Budapest → Serbia
Austria: Army Vienna → Budapest (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Helgoland Bight → Kiel
England: Fleet Kiel → Berlin
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Sea → Holland (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Skagerrak → North Sea (*bounce*)
France: Army Belgium → Holland (*bounce*)
France: Army Burgundy → Munich (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon → Marseilles
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Portugal
France: Fleet Portugal → Spain (south coast)
Germany: Army Munich → Berlin (*bounce, destroyed*)
Germany: Army Ruhr → Kiel (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Greece → Albania
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Adriatic Sea
Italy: Army Piedmont SUPPORT Army Tuscany → Venice
Italy: Army Tuscany → Venice
Italy: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Tyrolia → Munich
Russia: Army Budapest → Serbia
Russia: Fleet Denmark SUPPORT English Fleet Helgoland Bight → Kiel
Russia: Fleet Rumania HOLD
Russia: Army Silesia SUPPORT English Fleet Kiel → Berlin
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Norway (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Sweden → Norway (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Tyrolia → Munich
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Fleet Rumania
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Eastern Mediterranean
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Bulgaria → Rumania
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Rumania (*bounce*)
Turkey: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea
Turkey: Army Galicia → Budapest (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Serbia SUPPORT Army Galicia → Budapest (*dislodged*)
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