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Message from Austria to Turkey
Jason,
> What are you thinking regarding Serbia?
The short and obvious answer is that, since Andy promise truces after
truces only to keep attacking me, I wish to prevent him from profiting
of my demise and would like to support you in Serbia.
The more complex answer is that Andy's hold on you is so strong that
I can't achieve anything in this game and will soon be eliminated (there's
no balance of power in the south, except between Eric & Andy). I'm
not please that you let yourself being used that way, but my grievances
are with the master responsible for this situation, not with the pawn.
Sorry about the pawn part, but this is how I feel.
If only you had accepted my desperate plan to have you become a
major power in the south within an RT, then I wouldn't be too worried
to see Andy be successfull in the end; but with Eric in Rum, the best
you can now hope is to be a minor partner in an alliance with Russia,
with a good chance of being squeezed by RI. Believe it or not, you are
Andy's next target. France is too strong for him to take on and
Germany is allready being invaded by 3 power, wich doesn't leave
much for a fourth invader. Going after Russia would mean surrounding
you, so he might as well attack you with Russia's assistance to get the
units he need to keep France in line and insure his place in an FIR
draw.
To improve your chances of survival, I only see two options. Keep me
alive, wich you don't seem interested in, or make sure to be bigger
then Italy so you get chosen to be the third partner for the draw,
squeezing Italy between FT.
Regards,
Philippe
Message from Austria to Russia
> But overall, either way I went you wouldn't have been happy, because I was
> clearly looking out for myself at your expense, which is what motivated my
> original statement of not blaming you for your moves. I probably would have
> done something similar in your shoes.
Should I expect more of the same from you this fall?
Philippe
Message from Turkey to Austria
Yes, I'm well aware of the potential for IR. You seemed to indicate in
your first message, though, that you had a plan for me to get Ser and
Gre with your help. What specific plan did you have in mind?
jason
Message from Russia to Austria
>> But overall, either way I went you wouldn't have been happy, because I was
>> clearly looking out for myself at your expense, which is what motivated my
>> original statement of not blaming you for your moves. I probably would
have
>> done something similar in your shoes.
>
>Should I expect more of the same from you this fall?
Well, if you decide you want me to take Vie, then yes. :)
It looks to me like attacking you is only going to aid Andy. While that was
my intent last season, for the reasons I've explained previously. I have no
desire to see him do better than he has against you. Were I in Rum with my
army, I would be offering to support you back into Ser. With the fleet there,
it's not an option, so I'm not sure what we can do to directly coordinate. Do
you have any ideas? The most obvious thing to me would be for you to ask
Jason to support you into Ser, but I don't think he's going to be willing to
do that -- he's too sure that Andy's not going to contest Gre. Again, if you
are interested in Jason taking Ser, I will try to convince him. I'm just not
confident it's going to happen.
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Turkey
> Yes, I'm well aware of the potential for IR. You seemed to indicate in
> your first message, though, that you had a plan for me to get Ser and
> Gre with your help. What specific plan did you have in mind?
Simply that I support Bul-Ser. You can get Greece
simply with Aeg-Gre. With Andy's position, at most
you bounce this year and get it next year; but since
you have been working faithfully with him, there's a
good chance of your getting it this fall as he plan his
moves against me.
Philippe.
P.-S. As long as I have my fleet in Adr, there's also
an attack of Ion that can be usefull to you.
Message from Master to all
Players,
I'm extending the deadline by a week at a player's request.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from Turkey to Austria
Very well, please support Bul - Ser. That should work well for both of us.
jason
Message from Austria to Turkey
> Very well, please support Bul - Ser. That should work well for both of us.
OK. Looking forward to seeing Andy take a hit ;-)
Philippe
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi Eric,
Sorry for not responding sooner, but I was trying to convince
Jason to go against Andy (not sure if I was successfull, but it's
time to issue orders).
On our side, I still want you to get Vie, but I would also
appreciate your keeping the options of a second southern
fleet open.
Philippe
Message from France to all
Folks --
Sorry if I haven't been responding to press, but I was away for
Thanksgiving. My girlfriend's parents don't have dial-up, much less
broadband, so I was kind of in the stone ages for a few days there. I will
get back to you all later today.
Erik
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Did I really send you a message where I called you Ben? I must be sicker
than I thought! It looks like the content was meant for you, but I just
called you the wrong thing. My apologies for any insult that may have
represented to either of you. :)
>Sorry for not responding sooner, but I was trying to convince
>Jason to go against Andy (not sure if I was successfull, but it's
>time to issue orders).
I'm not complaining, seeing as I was offline most of the last week and a
half. I think you were successful, as Jason has indicated that he's going
to go through with this. Do note that the deadline was extended to next
Monday (part of the reason I was willing to take off my sick time this
weekend).
>On our side, I still want you to get Vie, but I would also
>appreciate your keeping the options of a second southern
>fleet open.
So if I understand correctly you are asking me to move Gal-Vie, to keep F
Rum in place and vacate Sev, yes? If so, is the option of a second fleet
because you don't trust Jason to take your support or because you'd like to
see me in a position to attack him?
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
> So if I understand correctly you are asking me to move Gal-Vie, to keep F
> Rum in place and vacate Sev, yes? If so, is the option of a second fleet
> because you don't trust Jason to take your support or because you'd like to
> see me in a position to attack him?
After your confirmation, I tend to think Jason will accept my
support; but I can't be sure and would prefer to see you in
position to do something about it.
Philippe.
P.-S. Regarding the move to Vie, if you prefer to move to
Boh instead, I'm ok with it; but please do so only if you can
be sure that Andy isn't going to get anything out of me.
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
I think Andy is about to get an unpleasant surprise from the west. Also I
believe the timing is perfect to split up the RT, if you think you can
manage it. My guess is, Andy is about to be *seriously* distracted from
elsewhere, and RT relations are alittle cool right now. If you can figure
out a way to take advantage, IRT would be in shambles and you would again be
on the rise.
I would recommend, if you can choose, that you work with Turkey against
Russia, who is plenty big enough already. If you can resurrect the AT
against Russia, I would consider it a favor returned.
Ben
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Jason still is talking about how he'll end up in Ser, so if you are looking
to support him there, that should still work. You still want me to move to
Vie? I'm not 100% certain I'll be able to build F Sev (if it comes to that)
but I should still have some leverage on Jason if he doesn't come through
with it.
--- Eric
Message from Austria to England
Ben,
My position is so difficult that you shouldn't expect me
to go against RT anytime soon. Simply getting Jason to
attack Italy is difficult enough, I'm not about to try to
convince him to also attack Russia.
Let's see what happen, then we can talk about my
doing anything beside trying to survive.
Philippe.
P.-S. You are hinting at a french invasion of Italy, but
since France didn't bother telling me about it, haven't
heard from him in a long time, I think it's quite possible
that he's moving against you instead.
Message from Austria to Russia
> Jason still is talking about how he'll end up in Ser, so if you are looking
> to support him there, that should still work. You still want me to move to
> Vie? I'm not 100% certain I'll be able to build F Sev (if it comes to that)
> but I should still have some leverage on Jason if he doesn't come through
> with it.
I would like you to get in position to help against Andy
even if you have to take sc from me to do so, so go for
either Vie or Boh.
What do you know of Andy's plan this fall?
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
@#$$%
I sent my response to your message to Andy. Dammit. I knew I was going to
blow that.
I only said that he had not asked for support against you, but I made a
comment about Ser, so he may see that coming now. Damn, damn, damn.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Austria
Here's the response I inadvertently sent to Andy. The problem is the three
words in parentheses in the second sentence. He's smart enough to know what
that means, even though he can't defend against it.
--- Eric
>All he's given me about his plans was about the Spring moves, and that
>all turned out to be false anyway. I would not be surprised to see him
>try to keep Gre from Jason (thereby losing Ser) but I would not be
>stunned to see him try to take Tri, either.
>He's not asked for any specific supports from me for the Fall, but that
>just means that he's not trying to take Bud off of you for the moment.
>Sorry, I know that's really not much information, but that's all I've got
>for now.
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
What I am proposing instead is, an AT against *R* instead of I. Jason may be interested, based on press I've received from him. But perhaps not.
Either way, I am glad to see you back on your feet.
Ben
Message from Russia to Austria and Turkey
Greetings neighbors.
I've already told Philippe this, but because it's a potentially big screwup
that affects, I wanted to warn you both about my recent blunder and give some
thoughts.
My error was that I inadvertently sent a message intended for Philippe about
Andy to Andy. The message didn't say much at all (because I don't know much
about what Andy is going to do) but I did have an offhand reference to Andy
losing Ser in the message. A small comment, but potentially a big deal.
It is my understanding that you two are planning to cooperate to take Ser
from Andy this Fall (this statement should not be breaking any confidences,
since I've said this to each of you privately). Other than the above snafu, I
haven't said anything about it to Andy. If you two were hoping for surprise,
that may not be much consolation. If you want to keep the surprise, it would
be sufficient for either of you to respond (if he asks) by saying that I have
been led to believe that Philippe thinks Jason is helping him with Ser,
whereas Jason has told me he's not going to.
Again, my apologies for the screw up, and I hope that this three way press
doesn't make things worse. Since I'm only reporting on my screw up and
repeating things I've said to both of you, I'm hoping this is more helpful
than hurtful.
Here's hoping you guys don't lynch me for stupidity....
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
Eric,
Well, to err is human... The problem now is that I'm
pretty sure he will try for Tri in strength. Because of
this, I will now support Adr-Tri from Vie and I need
you to leave it alone.
So, could you please confirm that you will move to
Boh then?
Philippe
Message from Turkey to Austria and Russia
No problem on the errant message. We'll stick to the plan.
jason
Message from Austria to Russia and Turkey
> No problem on the errant message. We'll stick to the plan.
Yeah, there's nothing Andy can do against my support in Ser.
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
If you are not vacating Vie, there's no reason for me to tap it. Boh it is.
Sorry for the delayed response -- I was away at my Monday night class.
--- Eric
Austria: Fleet Adriatic Sea → Trieste
Austria: Army Budapest SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria → Serbia
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Fleet Adriatic Sea → Trieste
England: Fleet Denmark → Kiel
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Fleet Skagerrak → Denmark
England: Fleet Skagerrak → Denmark
France: Army Belgium SUPPORT Army Holland (*cut*)
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Belgium
France: Army Holland SUPPORT Army Belgium (*cut*)
France: Fleet Marseilles → Spain (south coast)
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Irish Sea
France: Army Paris → Gascony
Germany: Army Berlin → Silesia (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Helgoland Bight → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel SUPPORT Fleet Helgoland Bight → Holland (*cut, destroyed*)
Germany: Army Munich → Silesia (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Ruhr → Belgium (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Greece (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Rome → Venice
Italy: Army Serbia SUPPORT Fleet Ionian Sea → Greece (*cut, dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT English Fleet Denmark → Kiel
Russia: Army Galicia → Bohemia
Russia: Army Norway → Sweden
Russia: Fleet Rumania HOLD
Russia: Army Sevastopol SUPPORT Fleet Rumania
Russia: Army Silesia → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Ukraine → Galicia
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea → Greece (*bounce*)
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Serbia
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
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