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Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
Well guys it seems that in general we are off to a good start. France attacking
Italy only aids us to stick together.
Are AR going to stick together? I suggest they do. Italy has his hands full
with France.
Let me know what you guys are thinking.
Message from Austria to France
Hi Erik,
You care to explain your opening moves? I'm glad
to see no one is attacking you; but why move
against Andy when I said I wasn't ready to?
Philippe
Message from Austria to Italy
Andy,
I know that my lack of trust with Italy in 1901 has complicated
things between us, but do you care to exchange your thoughts
on what's happening? For my part, I think Germany or Russia
arranged for France to attack you to disrupt the Lepanto.
Maybe Russia had hoped to roll with an RT and would have
prefered to see you occupy else where or this maybe part of
a German plan to further tension between us while having an
easy time invading France.
Hope you have a better understanding of what's happening here,
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
Hi Ben,
Good to see that we don't have to worry about an RT ;-)
What's your take on what's happening with Germany and
France? One thing is for sure, you have got to take
Belgium for yourself as 3 gains for Germany is a bit much.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Turkey
Hi Jason,
Glad to see everything is going as planned :-)
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria and Germany
>
> Well guys it seems that in general we are off to a good start. France
attacking Italy only aids us to stick together.
>
Are AR going to stick together? I suggest they do. Italy has his hands
full with France.
> Let me know what you guys are thinking.
>
I think that is more up to Austria than up to me.
Message from Italy to Austria
Philippe
> I know that my lack of trust with Italy in 1901 has complicated
> things between us, but do you care to exchange your thoughts
> on what's happening?
I figure you know what is going on.....so help me out....
For my part, I think Germany or Russia
> arranged for France to attack you to disrupt the Lepanto.
>
Why would Russia want to disrupt a Lepanto ....what you are saying here is
that Germany arranged this.....
> Maybe Russia had hoped to roll with an RT and would have
> prefered to see you occupy else where or this maybe part of
> a German plan to further tension between us while having an
> easy time invading France.
Who knows.
Message from Austria to Germany and Italy
> > Well guys it seems that in general we are off to a good start. France
> attacking Italy only aids us to stick together.
> >
> Are AR going to stick together? I suggest they do. Italy has his hands
> full with France.
> > Let me know what you guys are thinking.
> >
>
> I think that is more up to Austria than up to me.
If Italy is unable to go after Turkey, Russia is the only one
left to assist against him; but don't we risk seeing him
become a bigger partner then we wanted?
Also, I would really like to know what is happening with
France? His moves and those of England fit with a western
triple, except that Tony's moves don't. Were they trick
into something that wasn't to be?
Philippe
Message from Austria to Italy
> I figure you know what is going on.....so help me out....
Thing is, I don't know and I don't like it. France did
ask me about a possible attack of Italy, but once I
said I wasn't interested, I thought that was the end of
it. What he had suggested was a joint attack, not a
french crusade, so it doesn't make sense. Worst is,
I wanted him to protect himself from Germany to
prevent an early french fall to an EG, not to see
everything wide open in the west.
> Why would Russia want to disrupt a Lepanto ....what you are saying here is
> that Germany arranged this.....
I'm suggesting plenty, but don't know squat. That's
the problem. I had hope you would have known
more about the situation.
Anyway, I will try to learn what I can from France
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
> > I figure you know what is going on.....so help me out....
>
> Thing is, I don't know and I don't like it.
France and I have a history. I eliminated him in the first comments game
and since then....sete on USVG....go take a look.
That could be it, but my suspicion is that Tony engineered it.
Look at the board....
4 good players....AGIR
2 reasonable players TF
1 fairly inexperience player E
Austria attacking Germany in 01' is suicide.
Italy could be a problem, and since I have been working VERY hard to get
an EF together, it got back to Tony and he set the French on me.
Russia and France are its biggest threats outside England.
I have been working hard to get someone to put pressure on Germany, and I
guess it backfired.
France attacked me, Turkey attacked Russia....
France did
> ask me about a possible attack of Italy, but once I
> said I wasn't interested, I thought that was the end of
> it. What he had suggested was a joint attack, not a
> french crusade, so it doesn't make sense. Worst is,
> I wanted him to protect himself from Germany to
> prevent an early french fall to an EG, not to see
> everything wide open in the west.
Germany is going to kill France and then take on England. with noone to
bother him.
> > Why would Russia want to disrupt a Lepanto ....what you are saying here is
> > that Germany arranged this.....
>
> I'm suggesting plenty, but don't know squat. That's
> the problem. I had hope you would have known
> more about the situation.
I just spelled out my thoughts....
> Anyway, I will try to learn what I can from France
Please do.
thanks
Andy
Message from France to Austria
Phillipe:
Part of a larger plan that, due to some last-minute, uncommunicated
changes on Tony's part, didn't happen. Let's just say he didn't move as
expected.
Anyway, here I am. Given the sudden change in circumstances, I had been
planning to make nice with Andy and pull back. On the other hand, we do
have two units bordering Venice, and with a little diplomacy, we might be
able to do something with that. It seems unlikely that Andy would order
anything other than A Apu S A Ven, but you never know.
In any case, I guess I have damage control to do with Italy, no matter
what. I'll start doing that now. If you'd like to take advantage of my
current position, please let me know. I'm open to supporting you into
Venice if it means grabbing Rome and Tunis down the road for me.
Erik
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> Good to see that we don't have to worry about an RT ;-)
True, true. Will you be going after Russia?
> What's your take on what's happening with Germany and
> France? One thing is for sure, you have got to take
> Belgium for yourself as 3 gains for Germany is a bit much.
Yeah, mostly good news. Weird business between G and F. I'll see what I
can do about HOL/BEL. I'll figure something out.
Ben
Message from Austria to France
> Part of a larger plan that, due to some last-minute, uncommunicated
> changes on Tony's part, didn't happen. Let's just say he didn't move as
> expected.
I guess he didn't went for the western triple ;-( Could
you elaborate on the subject just so I know what I'm
dealing with here?
> Anyway, here I am. Given the sudden change in circumstances, I had been
> planning to make nice with Andy and pull back. On the other hand, we do
> have two units bordering Venice, and with a little diplomacy, we might be
> able to do something with that. It seems unlikely that Andy would order
> anything other than A Apu S A Ven, but you never know.
>
> In any case, I guess I have damage control to do with Italy, no matter
> what. I'll start doing that now. If you'd like to take advantage of my
> current position, please let me know. I'm open to supporting you into
> Venice if it means grabbing Rome and Tunis down the road for me.
In a way, I'm disturb that you were willing to go after
my potential saviour, even though I indicated I wasn't
up for it; but since there's no RT, I suppose it's worth
examining.
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
> True, true. Will you be going after Russia?
Probably, but I'm a bit worried of Germany.
> Yeah, mostly good news. Weird business between G and F. I'll see what I
> can do about HOL/BEL. I'll figure something out.
It's probably just a play on Germany's part to go after France;
but I would watch out in your place. If he's convinced France
will do anything he ask, he might to go for an FG alliance and
weasel himself into a position to take you out (Den-Ska,
Kie-Den & Ruh-Hol for example would put him in position to
work with a russian fleet in Sweden without looking too anti-
english). To prevent that, could you pressure Germany into
denying Sweden even though Russia hasn't threathened any
one?
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> It's probably just a play on Germany's part to go after France;
> but I would watch out in your place.
No kidding.
> If he's convinced France
> will do anything he ask, he might to go for an FG alliance and
> weasel himself into a position to take you out (Den-Ska,
> Kie-Den & Ruh-Hol for example would put him in position to
> work with a russian fleet in Sweden without looking too anti-
> english). To prevent that, could you pressure Germany into
> denying Sweden even though Russia hasn't threathened any
> one?
Germany's already told me he will deny Sweden to Russia. I have no
particular reason to believe he will do this, though. On the contrary, I
think you are probably right to warn me of a G/R.
Thanks for the advice. You and Turkey have things set up beautifully,
unless I miss my guess. Could we get no builds for Russia this year? I
can't believe he ordered Moscow to hold. I was closer than I thought with
my broadcast of MOS - WAR, WAR - MOS.
Ben
Message from England to all
> :: Deadline: F1901M Mon Oct 20 2003 23:30:00 -0500
Will one of you confess to being away? Or will I have to send Tony to come
and find you?
Ben
Message from Italy to all
>
> > :: Deadline: F1901M Mon Oct 20 2003 23:30:00 -0500
> Will one of you confess to being away? Or will I have to send Tony to come
> and find you?
I am going to be at the North American Dip Championships til Monday.
starting tommorow morning
Message to all
> > :: Deadline: F1901M Mon Oct 20 2003 23:30:00 -0500
>Will one of you confess to being away? Or will I have to send Tony to come
>and find you?
I confess. It's me.
;-)
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
Western tripple? You must explain it to me one day. All I see is England
doing a bog standard opening and France grabbing two builds and going for
Italy. Add to that the insistence on the bounce in VEN leaving two on VEN is
just as strange. The color of my units may be black but I am amazed how I
suddenly became the black sheep of the family.
Message from Austria to England
> > It's probably just a play on Germany's part to go after France;
> > but I would watch out in your place.
> No kidding.
Sorry for stating the obvious ;-)
> Germany's already told me he will deny Sweden to Russia. I have no
> particular reason to believe he will do this, though. On the contrary, I
> think you are probably right to warn me of a G/R.
As far as I know, the plan was for Germany to deny
Sweden if Russia attacked me or Germany right away.
I don't think there ever was a plan to deny Sweden
whatever happened, but I might be wrong.
Since France's situation permit an EF as well as an EG
alliance, have you thought of forcing Germany's hand by
making Den-Swe a necessary step for an EG alliance
instead of simply asking politely? This might appear too
strong a step for you, I don't know, but it's not really
costing Germany anything and you would know how
to orient your diplomacy for next year.
Anyway, I won't pursue the subject more then that
because your relationship with Germany is for you to
define and my opinion on that subject might not be
welcome, even thought it's pretty evident why I might
want to see a strong England and weak Russia in the
coming years :-)
> Thanks for the advice. You and Turkey have things set up beautifully,
> unless I miss my guess. Could we get no builds for Russia this year? I
> can't believe he ordered Moscow to hold. I was closer than I thought with
> my broadcast of MOS - WAR, WAR - MOS.
Everything is in the card! It just depend on how they
are dealt.
Philippe
Message from Germany to all
> Deadline: F1901M Mon Oct 20 2003 23:30:00 -0500Will one of you confess to
being away? Or will I have to send Tony to come and find you?>
Well the 18th is my birthday and I was planning on spending all cash
donations on a shopping spree at Harrods in f1903m (in London for the
americans under you ;-). But if the offer is right then I will be willing to
hunt the AWOLér down
Message from Germany to all
>>I am going to be at the North American Dip Championships til Monday.>>
Try and set a board up as we stand at this moment and ask 7 top players to
make fall move suggestions (backed up by the diploming that needs to be done
first).
p.s. Dont forget to share anything they say
Message to all
> > > :: Deadline: F1901M Mon Oct 20 2003 23:30:00 -0500
> >Will one of you confess to being away? Or will I have to send Tony to
come
> >and find you?
>
> I confess. It's me.
>
> ;-)
>
>
Tony, I am one of those expecting you to broadcast your fall moves!
Message from Italy to Austria
Philippe,
Well...the French claim to have been snowed by the German.
What are you hearing...
Im thinking that we get together with Russia, kill the turn and move west.
Message from Austria to Germany and Italy
> Western tripple? You must explain it to me one day. All I see is England
> doing a bog standard opening and France grabbing two builds and going for
> Italy. Add to that the insistence on the bounce in VEN leaving two on VEN is
> just as strange. The color of my units may be black but I am amazed how I
> suddenly became the black sheep of the family.
No problem: http://devel.diplom.org/Zine/F1999R/Szykman/triple.html
I didn't say there was a western triple. I said France
might have been trick into thinking there was one,
completely different.
I would agree that France might not have been tricked
into anything and has plans of his own; but if he was,
I'm clearly not the one in position to profit from this.
It's been made quite clear since the start that Ven
would be safe in the fall.
Now, on a happier note, congratulation Tony for your
very good positionning. Are you actually aiming for 3
builds or just expecting England to bounce one of them?
Philippe
Message from Germany to Austria and France
Interesting tactics guys, congratulations you had me fooled. Now I
understand the TRI - VEN bounce when seen in context with an unnatural move
to PIE if France was working alone.
As France is looking at two builds I am assuming that Austria will be
supported into VEN.
This doesnt ensure VEN as Italy can support with APU but I must admit it
will enable the two of you to wrap Italy up rather quick. Having seen the
spring moves then I am also making the assumption that Austria is working
with Turkey and will be heading for GRE whilst he supports BUL to RUM along
with Turkeys move on BLA and SEV (cutting support). No doubt the AF alliance
will eventually cost Turkey its head.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
OK, I have no idea what is going on so I have also pressed FA, FE, ER. If we
all are confused as I am then I dont see the move to PIE as any other than
that of an AIGR confirmation. APU gets convoyed to GRE and UKR gets
supported to RUM. Or was Italy ment to take TUN and Austria ment to get GRE
and SER?
The options are endless. My initial talks were of AIG, I am sticking to that
for now, my moves do not indicate any other alliance. If I were part of an
EFG then I wouldnt be putting a claim on BEL/HOL.
Strange you believe EFG can get a 3 way agreed and not AIG. I guess we will
all have to await the fall moves to see where the alliances are forming.
I do recall however that the last comments game consisted of three players
lieing to one power during the spring move.
Even to date this is an interesting game.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
>>Are you actually aiming for 3 builds or just expecting England to bounce
one of them?>>
Well as I am part of an AIG I thought we would all be going for maximum
builds.
As it is I expect him to bounce me in BEL or HOL. I guess I have to go for
them both.
I am assuming you dont want me to bounce in Sweden now.
If you want to turn the AIGR into an AIGT then I assume you want me to
bounce him.
On the other hand you offer to support the Turk into RUM but DONT. Instead
you support yourself into RUM from BUD. You suggest the Turk moves on BLA
and cuts support from SEV in exchange for helping him into RUM (which you
dont but him cutting support from SEV ensures that yuou get in).
As Italy at worst faces three fleets by fall next year he could convoy to
GRE.
If the pair of you are convinced that I am part of an EFG gone wrong then
VEN is not in trouble from TRI/VEN.
I guess thats something Italy has to decide. But there is still plenty of
potential for AIG.
Message from Austria to Italy
> Well...the French claim to have been snowed by the German.
>
> What are you hearing...
Pretty much the same thing.
> Im thinking that we get together with Russia, kill the turn and move west.
Don't forget that I'm stuck between you and Russia.
The plan for the elimination of Turkey was for you
and I to end up with the biggest shares of the spoils
so we could pursue an AI alliance. If France has a
grudge against you and allow Germany to influence
him, we risk seeing him distract you from the turkish
invasion and have Russia take the bulk of Turkey's
homeland since there's no way for me to easily get
there in your place.
At the moment, my relation with Turkey is ok, as you
can imagined, and this could be use to involved Turkey
in a war with Russia that would allow us to setup the
fall of Turkey that would really favor us, not Russia.
Philippe
Message from Austria to France and Germany
> Interesting tactics guys, congratulations you had me fooled. Now I
> understand the TRI - VEN bounce when seen in context with an unnatural move
> to PIE if France was working alone.
> As France is looking at two builds I am assuming that Austria will be
> supported into VEN.
> This doesnt ensure VEN as Italy can support with APU but I must admit it
> will enable the two of you to wrap Italy up rather quick. Having seen the
> spring moves then I am also making the assumption that Austria is working
> with Turkey and will be heading for GRE whilst he supports BUL to RUM along
> with Turkeys move on BLA and SEV (cutting support). No doubt the AF alliance
> will eventually cost Turkey its head.
What's going on with you two? Are you just trying
to make things interesting for the observer or is
there a point behind this ;-)
Philippe
Message from Austria to Germany and Italy
> As Italy at worst faces three fleets by fall next year he could convoy to
> GRE.
> If the pair of you are convinced that I am part of an EFG gone wrong then
> VEN is not in trouble from TRI/VEN.
> I guess thats something Italy has to decide. But there is still plenty of
> potential for AIG.
Personaly, I don't see any problem with AIG.
If there had actually been a western triple, it
would have created problems of allegiance;
but since it's not the case.
As for bouncing Sweden, Russia is a minor
partner of AGI that is needed to take down
Turkey. Since the goal isn't to see him get
strong out of it, I'm ok with seeing him get
bounced in Sweden if it doesn't interfere with
the southern plan. Your call.
Philippe.
P.-S. What's with the GFA press?
Message from Germany to Austria and France
>>What's going on with you two? Are you just trying
to make things interesting for the observer or is
there a point behind this ;-)>>
Hahahaha so the pair of you still deny planning this all along. OK, i can
await the fall outcome.
If you two do decide to "let me in" then "let me know".
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
>> P.-S. What's with the GFA press?>>
As stated I pressed EF, FA, ER. I have no idea what is going on and by fall
i hope that my eyes will be opened.
Maybe Turkey and me who went it alone are the only sane ones here ;-)
I am anxiously awaiting the fall move, I hate being left out
Maybe I should try a GIT or any other 3 letter combination broadcast ;-).
Message from Germany to all
Hey Jason, I think that it was only you and me who went it alone maybe we
should team up for a 2 way?!... or did you move in accordance with...... ;-)
Message from Italy to Austria and Germany
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Message from tvernon@chello.nl as Germany to Austria and Italy in 'c2':
>
> Western tripple? You must explain it to me one day.
Tony.....please....you know what a western triple is.....
All I see is England
> doing a bog standard opening and France grabbing two builds and going for
> Italy.
Which is a standard Western Triple.....hell, France didnt come near you.
Add to that the insistence on the bounce in VEN leaving two on VEN is
> just as strange. The color of my units may be black but I am amazed how I
> suddenly became the black sheep of the family.
You arent, but dont insult me.
Message from Austria to France
Hi Erik,
> Hahahaha so the pair of you still deny planning this all along. OK, i can
> await the fall outcome.
> If you two do decide to "let me in" then "let me know".
I don't want to rush you, but I'm still waiting to hear
more about the source of all this. Joking about it is
entertaining, but it would be more fun if I knew what
this is all about.
Philippe
Message from France to Austria
>
> What's going on with you two? Are you just trying
> to make things interesting for the observer or is
> there a point behind this ;-)
>
I think the point is that Germany's off his rocker. I'll write a full
response to your previous message shortly.
Erik
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
>>Tony.....please....you know what a western triple is.....>>
Well I can understand it as in a threesome like IAG but not with some actual
moves attached as in the moves of FE with G moves gone wrong.
>>All I see is England doing a bog standard opening and France grabbing two
builds and going for
> > Italy. Which is a standard Western Triple.....hell, France didnt come
near you.>>
I know he didnt. We had an agreement we wouldnt just as I had with Russia,
Austria had one with Russia. I assume you had one with France. One I assume
Russia had with Turkey and vice versa.
England had an "I wont move on you and I hope you wont move on me approach "
which was fine with me. I went solo like Turkey only less agressive as
Turkey whilst I awaited the outcome of the AI affair in VEN.
If I would have moved on England then KIE would be in HOL.
> > The color of my units may be black but I am amazed how I
> > suddenly became the black sheep of the family.
>
> You arent, but dont insult me.
Its an insult to myself, before I saw the link I had never heared of a
"western tripple" opening combined with moves.
Only a western tripple in the sense of an alliance as in a central alliance
or eastern alliance. I couldnt even tell you the moves to a lepanto. I
always try to make alliances early and I play every round according to the
situation on the board.
Looking at it it still spells GAI.
Message from France to Austria
Phillipe:
So the story is that it seems we were heading toward a western triple not
necessarily by concious design but as a result of German manipulation.
Germany scared me into making a strong attack against Italy out of fear
that Andy planned to open Ven - Pie and Nap - Tys. Your reluctance to work
with me against Andy reinforced that idea, as it seemed to me that an AI
partnership must have formed. When Andy started pushing for me to attack
Germany, it all started to point toward an Italian attack.
I suppose Germany did the same with England and Russia, hence the Northern
attack. England and I should have compared notes more -- we just agreed
not to attack one another, for the most part. Anyway, I expected some
German moves that didn't materialize. Germany claims that he rushed west
out of fear of an impending EF attack, but I think he just wanted England
and I out of the way so that he could get two or three guaranteed builds
to himself.
Clearly, I was wrong in my thinking, and now I'm stuck in Piedmony.
Germany would, of course, like to see my attack continue, and is probably
trying to encourage you to help me out.
That's the story. Hope it's been enlightening. Andy's mad, but seems to
accept my reasoning. The question is: what now?
Erik
Message from Russia to all
Yo' -- dere's a lot mora dem grey broadcasts going around agin.
Ceppin' fer Jason "da Kid", we'z all done our five jobs fer Don
Masseyoni an' is made men. We deserve more respect dan dis.
An' tell Ben "da' Shark" dat he don' need ta' send "Snake Eyes" Tony
out on no jobs. I'z da won wat's gonna be dealin' wit family bizness
fer a bit.
--- Tzarface
END ORIGINAL MESSAGE
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"Ben, I'm the one who requested the absence. --- Eric"
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Congratulations for winning the "most valuable ally" award. I read
Turkey's moves as a clear signal he's looking for an AT alliance. And
while I expect that you have encouraged that thinking, I hope and
expect that you are a good enough player to know that you aren't the
one that is stuck and without options.
I got numerous warnings that other players sensed an AT was coming. I
was strongly worried about it myself, given the casual, "I'd rather
not talk details" I got from both you and Jason. But I stuck to the
DMZ, because I would like to work with you as we've discussed. I hear
a lot that you have been worried about Andy (and therefor I assume
you have been worried about RI), but with Andy hamstrung by France
(something I assume you arranged) and me hamstrung by Turkey, I hope
you feel more comfortable that RA vs. T doesn't need to put you in
any danger from Italy. And the prospect of both Turkey and I building
fleets that face each other should also give you a sense of security.
I'm going to leave this a fairly brief statement that I'm obviously
very willing to cooperate with you (got work to do). I'm hoping that
you were serious when talking about working with me, and that we can
cooperate still.
I'm the one that has the long absence, so I'm here today and tomorrow
before disappearing for a while.
--- Tzarface
Message from Austria to Russia
> Congratulations for winning the "most valuable ally" award. I read
> Turkey's moves as a clear signal he's looking for an AT alliance. And
> while I expect that you have encouraged that thinking, I hope and
> expect that you are a good enough player to know that you aren't the
> one that is stuck and without options.
I read the situation the same way, except that I'm not the
type to believe that someone ever run out of options.
> I got numerous warnings that other players sensed an AT was coming. I
> was strongly worried about it myself, given the casual, "I'd rather
> not talk details" I got from both you and Jason. But I stuck to the
> DMZ, because I would like to work with you as we've discussed. I hear
Glad that you did and it's now easy to see why I didn't
want to discuss details. If Turkey had opened Ank-Con,
I would have been more interested in talking about RT
problems then how to split up Turkey or any specific
tactic that didn't fit the board anymore.
> a lot that you have been worried about Andy (and therefor I assume
> you have been worried about RI), but with Andy hamstrung by France
> (something I assume you arranged) and me hamstrung by Turkey, I hope
> you feel more comfortable that RA vs. T doesn't need to put you in
> any danger from Italy. And the prospect of both Turkey and I building
> fleets that face each other should also give you a sense of security.
Just so you know, I had nothing to do with France going
to Pie. In fact, this move has started an interesting
discussion between AGI that ended up with Germany
writing alot of weird stuff, some of wich I expect other
players to received.
> I'm going to leave this a fairly brief statement that I'm obviously
> very willing to cooperate with you (got work to do). I'm hoping that
> you were serious when talking about working with me, and that we can
> cooperate still.
Good to know and I sure was.
> I'm the one that has the long absence, so I'm here today and tomorrow
> before disappearing for a while.
Obviously, there's alot going on and it will take some
time to figure out what's really happening; but if we
haven't had enough time before you leave, we will
simply continue when you come back. When are
you suppose to be back?
Philippe.
P.-S. Just so you know, while I try to reply quickly
to messages, it's not always possible given my internet
access.
Message from Austria to Turkey
Hi Jason,
You still haven't got back to me yet, probably over work
or something, but I look forward to hearing about all the
weird stuff you must have received.
Everyone is speculating like crazy, and I have been
carefull not to drop the bean, but they don't have a clue
about our plan. The worst one is Germany who's talking
about a plan to support you to Rum that might see me
stab you by going to Rum myself ;-)
If you wonder why Germany is making up all those things,
it's because I caught him influencing France into attacking
Italy. He's denying it of course, but the west is a mess
because of it. Can you imagine that Germany is doing our
job and we just have to sit back and watch the show ;-)
I also heard from Russia and I expect him to start working
on you to turn the tide. Obviously, I hope he won't be
successfull, but if you start having doubts, just let me know
and we will see what we can do.
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
>[...]except that I'm not the type to believe that someone ever run
>out of options.
True. I meant more that he's put a pretty strong stake in the ground.
With your moves, you could still try for Gre, help either of us with
Rum, or take Gal. He has to do some fancy footwork to get into a
position to be able to threaten you, or be able to work with me.
Maybe he's up to it, but it's a hard starting point for RT relations.
>Just so you know, I had nothing to do with France going
>to Pie. In fact, this move has started an interesting
>discussion between AGI that ended up with Germany
>writing alot of weird stuff, some of wich I expect other
>players to received.
Interesting. I mean, obviously you had SOMETHING to do with it,
because I think everyone on the board knew that you were bouncing
Ven, so it was inferable that France could safely attack Pie. Doesn't
bode so well for Germany, as it seems to signal an EF. And your
protestations aside, most of the board is convinced there's an AF as
well.
>I'm hoping that
> > you were serious when talking about working with me, and that we can
> > cooperate still.
>
>Good to know and I sure was.
Good. I'll be in and out today and perhaps tomorrow preparing for
travel. We can communicate as best as possible during that time and
when I return.
>Obviously, there's alot going on and it will take some
>time to figure out what's really happening; but if we
>haven't had enough time before you leave, we will
>simply continue when you come back. When are
>you suppose to be back?
I expect to be back no later than Friday, but that's not for sure,
hence the extension request to the following Monday (that, plus I
don't know how much people will be around on the weekend).
>Just so you know, while I try to reply quickly
>to messages, it's not always possible given my internet
>access.
Trust me, I understand. It isn't so much my internet connection,
though, as it is sudden spurts of real-life activity.
--- Tzarface
Message to all
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Message from Austria to Italy
Andy,
It seem Tony's talk is good enough that people believe
there's an AF going on. Now, I'm not as interested to
discuss Tony's skill as to learn if you are one of the
believer.
Philippe
Message from Austria to France
> That's the story. Hope it's been enlightening. Andy's mad, but seems to
> accept my reasoning. The question is: what now?
Hard to know at the moment. Tony has been milking
this for all that it's worth and I have started hearing
about an AF alliance. This isn't necessarily bad for
us, but it doesn't look good either.
At a mininum, I would suggest you start thinking
about Gas-Bur as Ruh isn't necessarily going where
we think.
What does England think about all this by the way?
Philippe
Message from Turkey to all
I only move in accordance with the voices in my head....
jason
Message from Turkey to Austria
So far, so good. Sorry if I took too long to reply. As you said, busy
day at work.
Russia and Germany already sent me messages, with the obvious (sometimes
crazy) contents. I am a little concerned France getting strong quickly,
as that will compromise our position in the Med. Otherwise, things look
fine.
jason
Message from Austria to Turkey
> So far, so good. Sorry if I took too long to reply. As you said, busy
> day at work.
No problem. I know we have some time ahead of us, but
can you confirm Arm-Sev, Ank-Bla & Bul s Bud-Rum?
> Russia and Germany already sent me messages, with the obvious (sometimes
> crazy) contents. I am a little concerned France getting strong quickly,
> as that will compromise our position in the Med. Otherwise, things look
> fine.
My take on things is that he will probably get attacked by
either England or Germany, and maybe both.
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
Hi Ben,
It seem Tony is doing a hell of a job coming up with
rumours of all kind, one of wich is that there's an AF
alliance going.
Heard anything?
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> It seem Tony is doing a hell of a job coming up with
> rumours of all kind, one of wich is that there's an AF
> alliance going.
Yeah, Tony's a piece of work, isn't he. I feel like I need hip boots to get
through his press. I have no particular reason to think there is an AF &
the fact that Tony might be spreading the rumor doesn't make it more likely.
. .
I think your moves are explained by an AT, is my opinion. Fine with me, as
I've said all along; we will see what happens in the fall.
Ben
Message from Austria to Russia
> True. I meant more that he's put a pretty strong stake in the ground.
> With your moves, you could still try for Gre, help either of us with
> Rum, or take Gal. He has to do some fancy footwork to get into a
> position to be able to threaten you, or be able to work with me.
> Maybe he's up to it, but it's a hard starting point for RT relations.
Just to make sure, you don't actually expect me to support
you in Rum now? In an AR alliance, you need a fleet in Rum,
not an army, and Ukr can easily support Sev-Rum while Mos
cover Sev.
> Interesting. I mean, obviously you had SOMETHING to do with it,
> because I think everyone on the board knew that you were bouncing
> Ven, so it was inferable that France could safely attack Pie. Doesn't
> bode so well for Germany, as it seems to signal an EF. And your
> protestations aside, most of the board is convinced there's an AF as
> well.
I didn't see Tri-Ven as a call for Mar-Pie, but if most of the
board thing so, there's not much I can do about it. I suppose
we will have to wait for the fall's moves for people to get this
out of their head.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
> It seem Tony's talk is good enough that people believe
> there's an AF going on. Now, I'm not as interested to
> discuss Tony's skill as to learn if you are one of the
> believer.
Let me answer this in an odd way.
If I say No...I dont think there is an AF, it opens the door for there to
be one.
If I say Yes....you have no reason NOT to have one.
I think Tony would like me to think there is an AF, I think Tony would
like you to think there is an IR....and France and IE, Russia an AT....
you get the picture.
This is Tony's game, always remove the attention from himself to someone
else.
Andy
Message from Austria to Italy
> This is Tony's game, always remove the attention from himself to someone
> else.
OK. The reason I asked anyway, it's because you didn't get back
to me about Turkey. I don't need you to let me in on how you
wish to handle France; but I need to know how soon you planned
on being available to go after Turkey.
As for our loyalty to AI, we will know for sure by the end of the
year, so I'm not worried.
Philippe.
P.-S. My fleet is available if you need me to support Apu-Ven
while you cover Tus from Ven.
Message from France to Austria
>
> At a mininum, I would suggest you start thinking
> about Gas-Bur as Ruh isn't necessarily going where
> we think.
What makes you say this? Conjecture? Or do you have reason to believe it's
happening?
> What does England think about all this by the way?
You should ask him. As far as I know, he's also irked at Germany, but his
plan to head north may still be intact. I belive, though, that he and
Germany are going to end up dividing up Belgium and Ruhr.
Look, I'm not in the position I planned to be in. In Diplomacy, are we
ever, really? I am, however, in a position in which you and I, if we
thought it possible, could actually take on Italy. It would mean dealing
with the possiblity of Germany and/or England attacking and me having to
deal with a two- or three-front war. Assuming I can prevent that, though,
we could feasibly do this.
It's ultimately up to you. If you're not into taking out a neighbor who
will eventually be an adversary, then I'm sure as heck not going to do it
on my own with England and Germany up in the air. However, if you want to
take advantage of my current position, I'm willing to work with you.
Erik
Message from Austria to France
> What makes you say this? Conjecture? Or do you have reason to believe it's
> happening?
Not specifically, it's just the way things seem to be going.
With Norway secure, England will be looking for a
second build, wich will probably be Belgium (Germany
can make sure of Holland and even though it could happen,
I don't see why he would deny England his second build).
No problem there yet, but if Germany get in Bur, you will
have a hard time getting him out of France and risk seeing
England joined in the attack sooner or later. What else is
he suppose to do anyway, fight Germany all alone?
> You should ask him. As far as I know, he's also irked at Germany, but his
> plan to head north may still be intact. I belive, though, that he and
> Germany are going to end up dividing up Belgium and Ruhr.
If England doesn't like Germany's style of play, this could
be good for you; but I wouldn't bet everything on it. At
least, with a block of Ruh-Bur or an army in Bur yourselves,
you have something to show up with in a discussion for an
EF alliance, even if your participation in an EF is limited to
supporting England while you have fun in Italy.
> Look, I'm not in the position I planned to be in. In Diplomacy, are we
> ever, really? I am, however, in a position in which you and I, if we
> thought it possible, could actually take on Italy. It would mean dealing
> with the possiblity of Germany and/or England attacking and me having to
> deal with a two- or three-front war. Assuming I can prevent that, though,
> we could feasibly do this.
Like I said previously, this is worth examining; but I must
tell you that an attack on Venice this fall is out of the
question because of the high percentage of failure. Anyway,
the best french attack of Italy would see you go for Gas-Spa,
Mao-Wes & Pie-Tus this fall.
> It's ultimately up to you. If you're not into taking out a neighbor who
> will eventually be an adversary, then I'm sure as heck not going to do it
> on my own with England and Germany up in the air. However, if you want to
> take advantage of my current position, I'm willing to work with you.
Just a precision, I'm willing to work with you whether we
go after Italy now or later. It's just a question of timing. As
a friend, I must tell you that things don't look good at the
moment and I feel that an invasion of Italy wouldn't last
long as you would make too tempting a target for EG; but
if you want, you can try having it both ways by going for
Pie-Tus, Gas-Bur & Mao-Spa(sc).
Think about it and I will do the same on my side,
Philippe.
P.-S. As always, if you hear anything else, please let me know.
Message from France to Austria
Phillipe:
What you say makes complete sense. I know you're just as interested in
keeping Italy under control as I am, I don't doubt that for a minute.
Indeed, I don't think I'm primed for a fight with him right now, but given
my position, I wanted to lay the option out there.
I will plan on withdrawing to Marseilles for now to protect against
Germany. I'll also try to talk with England a bit more (though at this
point, it's too early to say what will happen in the west -- we could
still see EG, EF, FG or a triple, in theory ;)). When the time comes to
deal with Italy, we'll talk further.
On an unrelated note, do you have any idea what Turkey's move to Armenia
was all about? That was not what I expected, I can tell you that much. Do
you have any kind of relationship with him? Does anybody?
Erik
Message from Austria to France
> What you say makes complete sense. I know you're just as interested in
> keeping Italy under control as I am, I don't doubt that for a minute.
> Indeed, I don't think I'm primed for a fight with him right now, but given
> my position, I wanted to lay the option out there.
>
> I will plan on withdrawing to Marseilles for now to protect against
> Germany. I'll also try to talk with England a bit more (though at this
> point, it's too early to say what will happen in the west -- we could
> still see EG, EF, FG or a triple, in theory ;)). When the time comes to
> deal with Italy, we'll talk further.
OK. I'm at your disposal.
> On an unrelated note, do you have any idea what Turkey's move to Armenia
> was all about? That was not what I expected, I can tell you that much. Do
> you have any kind of relationship with him? Does anybody?
In order. He's attacking Russia. I was worried about an RT
myself. I try staying on friendly term with him so he wouldn't
go for an RT alliance. I presume that he is in relation with
others, but I couldn't tell you the extent of it.
I suppose you were hoping for more then that, but I spent
most of my time trying to insure I wouldn't make a quick
exit, so my ability to know what others are thinking is pretty
limited. A good example of that is that I misread you last
turn. While I thought I was open with you and that an attack
on Italy would have to wait until I knew there were no RT,
wich doesn't seem to be a problem anymore, you surprised
me by attacking Italy all by yourself. If I had been more
aware of your own situation, then maybe I could have
express myself better.
Philippe
Message from Turkey to Austria
I can confirm all those moves (Sev, Bla and support). As long as France
is kept in check, this should go well.
jason
Message from Italy to all
Good Morning...
I owe almost all of you press. Sorry about that, i was without access all
weekend.
It will be coming out shortly.
Andy
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> Don't forget that I'm stuck between you and Russia.
> The plan for the elimination of Turkey was for you
> and I to end up with the biggest shares of the spoils
> so we could pursue an AI alliance. If France has a
> grudge against you and allow Germany to influence
> him, we risk seeing him distract you from the turkish
> invasion and have Russia take the bulk of Turkey's
> homeland since there's no way for me to easily get
> there in your place.
I dont think Erik has a grudge, but he is very very leary of me.
> At the moment, my relation with Turkey is ok, as you
> can imagined, and this could be use to involved Turkey
> in a war with Russia that would allow us to setup the
> fall of Turkey that would really favor us, not Russia.
Sounds like a plan..
Andy
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > This is Tony's game, always remove the attention from himself to someone
> > else.
>
> OK. The reason I asked anyway, it's because you didn't get back
> to me about Turkey. I don't need you to let me in on how you
> wish to handle France; but I need to know how soon you planned
> on being available to go after Turkey.
I think I will be avalable next year.
> As for our loyalty to AI, we will know for sure by the end of the
> year, so I'm not worried.
I guess we will.
Message from Austria to Italy
> I think I will be avalable next year.
Thanks for letting me know.
Philippe.
P.-S. However you decide to proceed, please remember not
to go for Greece as I don't want to risk bouncing with you.
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > I think I will be avalable next year.
>
> Thanks for letting me know.
>
> Philippe.
>
> P.-S. However you decide to proceed, please remember not
> to go for Greece as I don't want to risk bouncing with you.
>
That is what the Russian is suggesting, but I wont be doing it.
Message from Austria to Italy
> > P.-S. However you decide to proceed, please remember not
> > to go for Greece as I don't want to risk bouncing with you.
> >
>
> That is what the Russian is suggesting, but I wont be doing it.
Thanks.
Message from Austria to Turkey
OK. I'm not sure what France will do exactly,
but I would be surprise to see him expand
quickly, so it shouldn't pose a problem for us.
Philippe
Message from Turkey to Austria
Glad to hear about France. He said something similar to me, so we seem
to be on track.
jason
Message from Austria to England
Hi Ben,
It's been a while since we last talked and I was
wondering how you were doing on your side?
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
(second copy, sorry if first one was received)
Hi Ben,
It's been a while since we last talked and I was
wondering how you were doing on your side?
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Sorry I didn't respond before I left on my break. Oddly, my pacbell mail
account classified your message as spam, so I didn't see it until I looked
more closely, even though it arrived before I left for my break.
>Just to make sure, you don't actually expect me to support
>you in Rum now? In an AR alliance, you need a fleet in Rum,
>not an army, and Ukr can easily support Sev-Rum while Mos
>cover Sev.
No, I don't truly expect you to support me in Rum at the moment. Though it
would be helpful (it would allow me to self bounce in Sev, which makes
guessing about what Arm is going to do less complicated) I can see that
it's not in your best interest. At the same time, I would like to know that
you are not going to contest me taking Rum, either by supporting Bul-Rum or
by accepting Turkey's support there yourself. Obviously building F Sev and
cementing an RA is now my primary focus; but I'd like to know that I'm
getting the build that will let me commit to it.
> > [...]And your
> > protestations aside, most of the board is convinced there's an AF as
> > well.
>
>I didn't see Tri-Ven as a call for Mar-Pie, but if most of the
>board thing so, there's not much I can do about it. I suppose
>we will have to wait for the fall's moves for people to get this
>out of their head.
I wasn't trying to accuse you, just letting you know that I was getting
comments about this from others.
--- Tzarface
Message from Russia to all
Greetings all,
While I'm still technically on vacation, I'm back with net access again. I
have a few minutes to write press before we're out to run errands, so I
might not get to send all the press I'd like, but I'm generally available
again. Sorry for the delay.
--- Tzarface
Message from England to Austria
Phillipe -
> It's been a while since we last talked and I was
> wondering how you were doing on your side?
Well supposedly Tony will let me into Belgium, which is nice.
I imagine you will be taking GRE? An excellent '01 for you, if you do.
Good luck!
Ben
Message from Austria to Russia
> Sorry I didn't respond before I left on my break. Oddly, my pacbell mail
> account classified your message as spam, so I didn't see it until I looked
> more closely, even though it arrived before I left for my break.
Hope it won't happen too often.
> No, I don't truly expect you to support me in Rum at the moment. Though it
> would be helpful (it would allow me to self bounce in Sev, which makes
> guessing about what Arm is going to do less complicated) I can see that
> it's not in your best interest. At the same time, I would like to know that
> you are not going to contest me taking Rum, either by supporting Bul-Rum or
> by accepting Turkey's support there yourself. Obviously building F Sev and
> cementing an RA is now my primary focus; but I'd like to know that I'm
> getting the build that will let me commit to it.
OK. While it could be helpfull to support you, you must know
that Greece & Serbia are too tasty to pass up.
> I wasn't trying to accuse you, just letting you know that I was getting
> comments about this from others.
Yeah, I see that Tony's pretty good at making others believe
what he want.
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
(second copy, sorry if you ever receive the first one)
> Well supposedly Tony will let me into Belgium, which is nice.
What about Sweden? Do you think he will bounce it?
> I imagine you will be taking GRE? An excellent '01 for you, if you do.
Where did you hear that from? I know I wasn't very clear
with some of the others, but going for Gre would imply I
let Turkey fight Russia alone.
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> > Well supposedly Tony will let me into Belgium, which is nice.
Actually now he says he will be bouncing me in BEL, which is not so nice.
> What about Sweden? Do you think he will bounce it?
No. I invite you to change his mind, if you can.
> > I imagine you will be taking GRE? An excellent '01 for
> you, if you do.
>
> Where did you hear that from? I know I wasn't very clear
> with some of the others, but going for Gre would imply I
> let Turkey fight Russia alone.
I was just guessing. Nobody said anything to me about GRE.
As I've said all along, I would like to see you working alongside Turkey.
Good luck, my friend.
Ben
Message from Austria to Turkey
Hi Jason,
This is just to confirmed Bud-Rum supported by Ser & Bul.
It's probably unncessary, but I didn't want to take any
chances following what I received from Ben. When even
those who approved of anti-russian plans expect me to go
for Greece, there's a risk you would also and I wanted to
be 100% clear about my intention. On the positive side, it's
proof that we are good at keeping secret ;-)
Yours truly,
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
> Actually now he says he will be bouncing me in BEL, which is not so nice.
In short, he's ready to declare war on you. Have you thought
of convoying to Nwy & move to Bar? At least this way you
make sure of another gain soon and 3 gains in 1901 for Tony
is bound to make other jalous ;-)
> No. I invite you to change his mind, if you can.
It's pointless. If I try to press the issue, I'm sure he won't
bounce Sweden. That's why I suggested you try to convince
him.
> I was just guessing. Nobody said anything to me about GRE.
>
> As I've said all along, I would like to see you working alongside Turkey.
OK. I was just trying to figure out where this was coming from.
> Good luck, my friend.
Good luck to you too! Hopefully, France will do the right thing
and joined you instead of letting Tony take over the world.
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
>> Actually now he says he will be bouncing me in BEL, which is not so nice.
> In short, he's ready to declare war on you. Have you thought
> of convoying to Nwy & move to Bar? At least this way you
> make sure of another gain soon and 3 gains in 1901 for Tony
> is bound to make other jalous ;-)
I have thought about that. On balance the disadvantages - three German builds to my one, out of position in the event of an FG, the extra enemy - seem to outweigh the advantages. On the other hand, I do not think I will be in a bad position to follow up against Russia in the North, should I manage some peaceful time on the EG front.
>> No. I invite you to change his mind, if you can.
>
> It's pointless. If I try to press the issue, I'm sure he won't
> bounce Sweden. That's why I suggested you try to convince
> him.
:-) It was pointless.
>> Good luck, my friend.
>
> Good luck to you too! Hopefully, France will do the right thing
> and joined you instead of letting Tony take over the world.
Tony might be good, but he's difficult to work with and something of a bully, so hopefully I will be able to have a French ally. If not, then I will have the excellent opportunity to observe you all from the Yahoo group. Not really my goal - I did that last time. ;o)
Ben
Message from Master to all
Players,
Since mail to and from the judge has been running extremely slow over
the past several days, I'm extending the deadline.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from England to Austria
Phillipe -
> (second copy, sorry if first one was received)
The judge is acting up. I just got your press last night - I don't know
when you sent it - and this is a second copy of the reply I already sent:
Phillipe -
> It's been a while since we last talked and I was
> wondering how you were doing on your side?
Well supposedly Tony will let me into Belgium, which is nice.
I imagine you will be taking GRE? An excellent '01 for you, if you do.
Good luck!
Ben
Message from Italy to all
Folks....we have had more than enough time to put these bloody orders
in....
If you have wait set....get rid of it.
If you havent put your orders in yet......get with the program, its taken
19 days to play 1 season...and its been 13 days since Spring 01 processed,
this is not rocket science...noone has more than 4 units on the board.
rant off.
Message from Austria to England
> I have thought about that. On balance the disadvantages - three German builds to my one, out of position in the event of an FG,
the extra enemy - seem to outweigh the advantages. On the other hand, I do not think I will be in a bad position to follow up
against Russia in the North, should I manage some peaceful time on the EG front.
Well, there's no way to be sure of France's reaction, but if
you had to choose between a british who's clearly not
moving against you and a very strong Germany, who would
you side with?
> Tony might be good, but he's difficult to work with and something of a bully, so hopefully I will be able to have a French ally.
If not, then I will have the excellent opportunity to observe you all from the Yahoo group. Not really my goal - I did that last
time. ;o)
No no, I'm sure you aren't leaving us soon!
Philippe.
P.-S. I have just received your copy of the reply you sent
me before, thanks for sending it just in case.
Message from Austria to England
> Well supposedly Tony will let me into Belgium, which is nice.
What about Sweden? Do you think he will bounce it?
> I imagine you will be taking GRE? An excellent '01 for you, if you do.
Where did you hear that from? I know I wasn't very clear
with some of the others, but going for Gre would imply I
let Turkey fight Russia alone.
Philippe
Message from Turkey to Austria
Confirm that I'm supporting Bud - Rum with Bul. What exactly did Ben say?
jason
Message from Master to all
Players,
Sorry about the long delay here. It seems that a few days ago,
everything that could go wrong did. Fortunately, I think that I've got
it all straightened out and the judge should be running better than
ever now. However, just to be sure, I'd like each of you to submit
press saying that you're not having any more trouble with the judge.
Once I see that from each of you, I'll remove wait and let the turn,
finally, process. The deadline is currently set for this Monday, so
it'll process then at the latest.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from Austria to Turkey
> Confirm that I'm supporting Bud - Rum with Bul. What exactly did Ben say?
He was infering I was going for Greece. Since I wasn't very
clear with the rest of the board, they don't need to know our
plan afterall, I expected him to have heard it from someone
else, but he told me later on that he was just guessing.
Anyway, wether there's a rumor running around or he really
was only guessing, the important part for me was that you
knew the real deal.
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
There's a message I sent you during the troubled times that I don't see
delivered.
It's been long enough that I don't remember the whole context, but I
believe I basically said that reading your last message to me, you didn't
directly answer my question about whether you would be using Bud to contest
Rum. You hinted you wouldn't, but reading the message it seemed like might
be trying to leave a situation where helping deny me Rum was not
"technically" a lie.
I hope that's not your style, but not having met you before, I just wanted
to get a more specific confirmation. I hope I said this more diplomatically
in that lost message, but I'm in a rush and don't want to hold things up in
terms of seeing this turn process.
--- Tzarface
Message from Master to all
Players,
I've removed wait, since all seven players seem to be able to access
the judge. If any of you have wait set, please remove it, and maybe
we'll finally get this turn processed.
Greg, GM
C2
Austria: Army Budapest → Rumania
Austria: Army Serbia SUPPORT Army Budapest → Rumania
Austria: Fleet Trieste SUPPORT Italian Army Apulia → Venice (*void*)
England: Fleet North Sea CONVOY Army Yorkshire → Holland
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → Norway
England: Army Yorkshire → North Sea → Holland (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony → Burgundy
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Spain (south coast)
France: Army Piedmont → Tyrolia
Germany: Fleet Denmark SUPPORT Russian Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Sweden
Germany: Army Kiel → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Ruhr → Belgium
Italy: Army Apulia → Ionian Sea → Greece
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Apulia → Greece
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Sweden
Russia: Army Moscow → Sevastopol (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Turkey: Fleet Ankara → Black Sea
Turkey: Army Armenia → Sevastopol (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Austrian Army Budapest → Rumania
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