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England: Removes 1 unit
France: Builds 2 units
Germany: Builds 1 unit
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 2 units
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Austria to France
Erik,
Good moves, but be warry of Andy. His relation with
Jason is very strong and if he decide to move against
you, it will be difficult for me to help you.
Good luck,
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
> I would appreciate it if you would keep this morsel between us. The image
> of an RT is very helpful to me right now. Thank you for the excellent
> insight.
I didn't tell anyone, but it seem other did. I guess
you expected Tony to support you in Sweden?
Regards,
Philippe
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi Eric,
So, how's the discussion with Jason going? Anyway,
with two fleets in the south, it shouldn't be to secure
the Black Sea.
Regards,
Philippe
Message from Austria to Turkey
Hi Jason,
I try real hard to work with you since the start of the
game, and failed miserably. If there's anything that
could change that, do let me know because I ran out
of idea.
Hopefully, you will use this opportunity to build
yourself a fleet since the Med. is going to be full of
them soon.
Regards,
Philippe
Message from England to all
Greetings all. I will be travelling through Friday - maybe Saturday - and
will correspond as much as I can.
Ben
Message from Germany to all
Hahahahahaha I hope none of you are observers to the PINNACLE VGFP 2002-2004
tournament via yahoo groups.
I posted my password, moves and press to the user group. Thanks to Doug for
pointing that out.
Message from Russia to Austria
Hi Philippe,
Well, I wasn't able to get Jason to change his mind, so just went with the
brute force method. I thought there was a good chance that he would break
with Andy, but apparently I was wrong. I think you can see that if there
wasn't an IT before, there will be now.
I have no idea how negotiations will go prior to the builds. I told you from
early on that I'm interested in an AR, and I've been honest about each of my
moves with you (even the move that lost you Rum in the first place). I'm
hoping that counts with you when you look at the new board arrangement that
provides you so many more options than you had before.
Unfortunately, things are not easily laid out for an AR vs IT, because
there's a logjam around Bul. There's a decent chance that we could have
fleets bouncing in Bla and armies bouncing in Bul for some time to come.
My early thought is that we could each try to appeal to Andy for help. If I
push RI and you push AI, then perhaps he could be persuaded to take Bul and
move on Turkey (perhaps even with both of us offering him support for the
move). That seems like a big risk for me, because you could really go for an
AI, whereas I've already put a big damper on RI.
Depending on how Jason reacts, there might be other options. Certainly you
could pursue AT. If you could get Bul moving, or perhaps if you offered to
support Con-Bla-Rum, that would allow one of us to take Bul even without
Andy's help.
What's your take on things?
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Austria
Enjoying yourself down there, it seems like fun. Wish I was there.
Message from Turkey to Austria
I appreciate that you've been trying to work something out. AT is just
hard to do in the long run. It's not over for anyone yet, though.
jason
Message from Austria to Turkey
> I appreciate that you've been trying to work something out. AT is just
> hard to do in the long run. It's not over for anyone yet, though.
In case you don't know, were as an AT is hard to work out,
an IT is nearly impossible. To be safe, Italy need to maintain
as big a navy as those from France & Turkey require of him,
while possessing the armies necessary to make gains further
inland; but for Turkey to be safe, he need to be in control of
the sea spaces surrounding his empire.
Basically, alliance between land power & sea power are
more stable then alliance of the same type. You can pretend
all you want that Italy or Turkey can become a land power,
but doing so when your homeland consist of coastal sc mean
that you expose yourself to a massive stab whenever your
ally feel like it.
More then that, even if you could take over all of the Balkans,
Austria & Russia for yourself, it would still leave you with 14
sc. Since the Med. is easy to blocked and hard to progress
through at best of time, your current strategy would never
allow you to secure a solo victory, so I would suggest trying
to insure you last long enough to be part of a draw instead
of rushing to your death.
Regards,
Philippe.
P.-S. Since I thought you didn't trust me, I suggested going
with Russia instead, God knows that it would be preferable
to working with Italy; but your safest bet, if you ever feel
like it, is to work with me.
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi Eric,
As far as I'm concerned, Jason's a lost cause and Andy is
gunning for me so much that I can't trust him, so I'm happy
to see you're someone that I can work with.
Regarding that logjam, I would simply count on Andy's
position to force his hand. While the situation is blocked
in the southeast, you can pursue your expansion in the
north while Andy risk getting attacked by France. Because
of this, if Jason build the fleet in Ank that would allow him
to resist you, I wouldn't be surprise to see Andy stab him
to keep the game moving in the east and get the build he
will need to resist the eventual invasion from France.
Philippe
Message from England to all
Ok, I have *occasional* access - maybe about once per day, evenings my
time, for short periods, while I'm away.
I'll be up to full speed over the weekend.
Ben
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
I do not have your note in front of me, though as I recall you
sent me a nice one.
Yes things could be better for me. A great deal will depend on
Russia - if Eric wants to work with me then, despite my small
size, I will be on good terms with F and R, most importantly.
Assuming I am on good terms with F.
Anyway, good for you; RT conflict is surely not a bad thing for
Austria. . .
Ben
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
It sounds like we see things similarly; I also think that Andy won't be
able to pass up Turkey if Jason is deployed against me. That's why I
suggested seeing if we can get Andy to attack him (or support an attack on
him) in Bul. Jason was way too firmly under Andy's influence for my liking.
I just wanted to make sure you see you know I'm very happy to help you take
on Andy, and focus north for my growth, so you don't get tempted to listen
too closely to Andy when he talks AI talk.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Well, I've had a lot of trouble getting ahold of Jason. That's not all his
fault, as I've had trouble sending any press in any game this last week,
which you've no doubt noticed from the lack of press you've seen from me.
Jason and I have had some short exchanges, but we're really not past the
basic trust issues that you would expect from Turkey opening to Arm in S01
and me attacking him in Rum last season. We'll see how it goes, and I'll
keep you in the loop if anything important surfaces.
I had not taken your comments in your last message (writing off Jason and
thinking Andy was gung-ho to attack you) seriously at first; I assumed they
were more of a placating kind of a message. However, press that I'm getting
now makes it clear that IT are still seriously gunning for Ser (I've been
asked to tap Bud), so I guess maybe you were being pretty straightforward
about that.
Given what I'm hearing, I think you are correct -- trying to get Andy to
attack Jason is job one. That shouldn't be too hard as long as I don't tap
Bud, and that move is not on my to-do list. Do you have any thoughts as to
how we can help speed up that process?
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
> I had not taken your comments in your last message (writing off Jason and
> thinking Andy was gung-ho to attack you) seriously at first; I assumed they
> were more of a placating kind of a message. However, press that I'm getting
> now makes it clear that IT are still seriously gunning for Ser (I've been
> asked to tap Bud), so I guess maybe you were being pretty straightforward
> about that.
I assure you there's no "maybe" about what I told you.
> Given what I'm hearing, I think you are correct -- trying to get Andy to
> attack Jason is job one. That shouldn't be too hard as long as I don't tap
> Bud, and that move is not on my to-do list. Do you have any thoughts as to
> how we can help speed up that process?
I think pushing for an attack on Turkey can only delay
it. As long as you make it clear to Andy that you aren't
going to favor his expansion into Austria, I'm sure he
will change his plan accordingly.
Philippe
Message from France to Austria
Phillipe:
So what's up? Things aren't looking so hot in Vienna these days.
Erik
Message from Austria to France
Hi Erik,
> Phillipe:
One l & two p please, if you don't mind.
> So what's up? Things aren't looking so hot in Vienna these days.
Well, it depend on what everyone else is doing isn't it?
Now, I'm probably reading too much into it, but it
sound like you are happy to see me in a tough spot.
Have I done anything to deserve this?
Philippe.
P.-S. Whatever the case, my warning regarding Andy
still stand. It doesn't seem like he has anything to fear
from Turkey in the coming years, so he could be going
your way anytime now.
Message from France to Austria
> One l & two p please, if you don't mind.
>
> > So what's up? Things aren't looking so hot in Vienna these days.
>
> Well, it depend on what everyone else is doing isn't it?
> Now, I'm probably reading too much into it, but it
> sound like you are happy to see me in a tough spot.
> Have I done anything to deserve this?
You're reading way too much into it. I just haven't heard much from you in
a while, so I thought I'd get your attention.
>
> P.-S. Whatever the case, my warning regarding Andy
> still stand. It doesn't seem like he has anything to fear
> from Turkey in the coming years, so he could be going
> your way anytime now.
I know. Which is why I thought it might be best if we communicated a
little more often. From what I hear, you did something to cause Turkey to
stop thinking it was wise to work with you, but I don't know what.
Obviously, if you crumble, it makes it hard for me to deal with Andy, so I
don't want to see you get eaten up by those three. What can I do to help?
Erik
Message from Austria to France
> You're reading way too much into it. I just haven't heard much from you in
> a while, so I thought I'd get your attention.
OK. After having been attacked by Jason for no reason, I'm
a bit warry of everyone. Not seeing the logic of his actions
really cramp my style in the south. Putting out fire is part of
the game I guess, but it's no gameplan.
> I know. Which is why I thought it might be best if we communicated a
> little more often. From what I hear, you did something to cause Turkey to
> stop thinking it was wise to work with you, but I don't know what.
> Obviously, if you crumble, it makes it hard for me to deal with Andy, so I
> don't want to see you get eaten up by those three. What can I do to help?
Short story is that Jason got convinced to work with Andy
for whatever reasons. I don't know the details and I'm done
trying to figure it out, but you are welcome to try if you like.
Tactic wise, not leaving yourself open to Andy and making
sure your are ready to go for an opening of his own is all I
can ask from you at the moment.
Regards,
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
Well, good for you, my friend. Hopefully the crack in the door will widen
and you will emerge the stronger for your early challenges.
Now if only you can hold off Italy. . .
I haven't heard from any of the eastern powers in ages, except for the
occasional note about Scandinavia, from Russia.
But I'm sending out some press now & I'll let you know if I hear anything.
Ben
Message from Austria to England
> Well, good for you, my friend. Hopefully the crack in the door will widen
> and you will emerge the stronger for your early challenges.
>
> Now if only you can hold off Italy. . .
>
> I haven't heard from any of the eastern powers in ages, except for the
> occasional note about Scandinavia, from Russia.
>
> But I'm sending out some press now & I'll let you know if I hear anything.
Hi Ben,
Not sure I follow where this is coming from. Has anything
happened recently wich I should know about?
Regards,
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> Not sure I follow where this is coming from. Has anything
> happened recently wich I should know about?
I had thought there was an RTI against you. Now I see you and Russia
ejecting Turkey from Rumania. Surely that is some kind of improvement,
right?
Ben
Message from Austria to England
> I had thought there was an RTI against you. Now I see you and Russia
> ejecting Turkey from Rumania. Surely that is some kind of improvement,
> right?
Since it's now been a week since those results came in, I
thought you might be refering to something else and I was
curious to know what it might be.
Anyway, thanks for your conforting words and let's hope
for a better future for Austria.
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> Since it's now been a week since those results came in, I
> thought you might be refering to something else and I was
> curious to know what it might be.
Nah. I'd been away & we hadn't corresponded.
What do you hear from Tony?
> Anyway, thanks for your conforting words and let's hope
> for a better future for Austria.
My friend, I think it is on the way.
Ben
Message from Austria to England
> What do you hear from Tony?
Nothing really. I've mostly kep to myself,
waiting to see what's going to happen.
Philippe
England: REMOVE Army Yorkshire
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Italy: BUILD Army Rome
Russia: BUILD Army Sevastopol
Russia: BUILD Army Warsaw
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Smyrna
Centers
Austria: 4
England: 3
France: 6
Germany: 5
Italy: 5
Russia: 7
Turkey: 4
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