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England: Builds 2 units
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Removes 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Austria to Italy
> I know that you arent going to believe me, regardless of what I say, and
> that is perfectly understandable.
>
> But if I were to ask you what you would like to see in the spring, what
> would my moves be??
Since I wasted much time before speculating on a change
of heart on your part, let's see you build a fleet in Nap first.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > I know that you arent going to believe me, regardless of what I say, and
> > that is perfectly understandable.
> >
> > But if I were to ask you what you would like to see in the spring, what
> > would my moves be??
>
> Since I wasted much time before speculating on a change
> of heart on your part, let's see you build a fleet in Nap first.
Its already ordered.
With that assumption, what would you like to see.
Andy
Message from Austria to England
Ben,
Sorry to see that I was right about France. Do you
know why he went your way instead of Andy?
Regards,
Philippe.
P.-S. With Jason actually attacking Andy, I would
like to know what he told you about Russia.
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> Sorry to see that I was right about France. Do you
> know why he went your way instead of Andy?
It surprised me because I don't think it was in his best interest, but I think he felt Andy's influence more than my own. :-( He will have a long ugly fight to get anything from me, though, while instead he could be cleaning the Italian clock.
> P.-S. With Jason actually attacking Andy, I would
> like to know what he told you about Russia.
Hm. Well, I'd suggested AT v R, and he wanted to know whether I thought that was preferable to AT v I, and I basically agreed. It was not a firm commitment but he seemed open to the idea. Keep it in mind.
Ben
Message from Turkey to Austria
Thanks again for your support into Ser. Too bad about Greece, but
apparently Russia tipped off Italy. I guess he doesn't want me getting
too big for my britches. :-)
jason
Message from Austria to Turkey
> Thanks again for your support into Ser. Too bad about Greece, but
> apparently Russia tipped off Italy. I guess he doesn't want me getting
> too big for my britches. :-)
Yeah, now what are your plans for the future? I feel better
knowing that Italy didn't profit from his invasion of Austria,
but survival would be an interesting concept for me to
explore at this point :-)
Philippe
Message from Austria to Italy
> With that assumption, what would you like to see.
The obvious answer is something safe for me that will
still be usefull to you; but let's discuss details after the
builds.
Philippe
Message from Austria to France
Hi Erik,
What has happened between you and England?
Is it Andy's doing so he could try to finish me up
in peace?
Regards,
Philippe
Message from Austria to England
> It surprised me because I don't think it was in his best interest, but I think he felt Andy's influence more than my own. :-( He
will have a long ugly fight to get anything from me, though, while instead he could be cleaning the Italian clock.
I will see what I can learn on my side and get back to you.
One thing's for sure, with two builds, you will be ready to
receive him.
> Hm. Well, I'd suggested AT v R, and he wanted to know whether I thought that was preferable to AT v I, and I basically agreed.
It was not a firm commitment but he seemed open to the idea. Keep it in mind.
OK. I won't push for anything at first and just wait to see
what are his goals.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Russia
Thanks for the help. As for Turkey, I don't see anything
special that would have allowed you to go against him
had he opted to stay with Andy? Of course, my initial
request would have been for nought with no russian build.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Germany
Hi Tony,
I'm getting tired of favorising others just so Andy doesn't
get to profit from his betrayal. He's offering peace to me
yet again and I hope it will be the right one this time; but
what do you think my chances are of actually seeing it?
Has he said anything to you?
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
(Double checking that this says "Press to A" at the top!)
I was reasonably certain that there would not be IT cooperation. My move to
Gal was more for show than anything. Let me know if you want me to use things
"against" you. I think we can continue to have good AR cooperation if you are
up for it. I'm hoping that after this you're interested in continuing
together (I certainly am). I have some ideas, but let me know what your
leanings are before I start spewing ideas.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Austria
Hi, Philippe. I believe it is all to little to late. He may be genuine this
time but the juggernaut is on the role.
As I expected all along the Juggernaut is on its way. You and Italy will be
swept aside. .
BUD and GRE will be next to fall. You may get lucky. Surely even Andy must
realise by now that there is no IR, IT, AR or AT. There never was. I havent
concerned myself much with the east following the opening problems
encountered in trying to get an GIA relation off the ground.
Russia ploy is to get EF fighting. RT to sweep west, even maybe towards a 2
way. For now my money is on Russia to solo. Eric (Turkey) is a competent
player so Russia will find it difficult going but for now Russia is in the
driving seat.
Ben has fallen for a short term gain bun unless he and France work as one
Russia will be all over England.
RT will have no problem allowing Italy to take TRI. They will just remove
any Italian or Austrian unit that is there when the time comes. I think the
best AI defence (if one arises) is to try and destory as many units as
possible without worrying about losses.
I think Turkey will build a fleet. In the spring expect boh - vie, gal
support ser - bud.
If I were RT I would use the spring to position myself in ALB (ser - alb,
bul - ser, aeg - bul, smy - age). This ensures that GRE, BUD fall in the
fall. Russia may take the long way around and take BER.
Either way I am afraid that it is to late for AI. Maybe a late AIG might
offer some relief but not for long.
I would opt for bud - gal supported by vie, mun - boh supported by tyr,
ber - sil. Just try and destroy a frontline russian unit. Maybe even get a
shot at war by fall. I think Russia/Turkey will make it to Germany and
Italy.
Message from Austria to Germany
Tony,
Just in case I wasn't clear, Andy's hold on Jason was so strong for
a while that I actually spend most of my time insuring there would
be an RT instead of an IRT. I failed at first, but I was bound to get
it going sooner or later. Now, I doubt my effort will help me survive
the Juggernaut, but there might still be hope. One thing's for sure, if
an RT isn't enough to get Andy off my back, then I will spend what
time I have left attacking him just for the fun of it.
So, if you have any influence left over Andy, please use it to stop
this madness,
Philippe.
P.-S. I heard Andy's a cutthroat player, but to see him lie and stab
me time after time with nothing to show for it is a bit much for me.
As Austria, I expect getting stab by Italy, but he has surpassed all
my expectations on that front and I wonder what's driving him to
such extreme. If you have any insight into his behavior, it would
really help me. Obviously, favorising an RT is a dead end strategy
for Austria and if I survive it, knowing what can be done to keep
Andy on board would help me greatly.
Message from Germany to Austria
Hi philippe. I think it went badly wrong in the spring of 1901. I dont think
he ever got over your insistence on bouncing TRI, That is what probably
drove him to Turkey.
I for one had to give up on any GIA. It just wasnt there. Early alliances
are crucial. I made the big mistake of not believing and trusting EF in the
western alliance arena. I chickened out and I have paid dearly since. I too
am trying to warn EF of the RT juggernaut threat and that Russia is pushing
EF into war. I think that I scared them that much that they just dont
believe me anymore. The boy crying wolf.
As for Andy I know nothing about him. I never pay attention to JDPR's or
reputations. I play the board as is. I barecly recognise people who I have
played against in previous games. They usually point out that we know each
other. It just never registrates with me. I must be doing something right
else I wouldnt be ranked 340. But no doubt after the updates that may vary
for better or for worst. I dont keep track.
But all in all I know it takes all types to play diplomacy but I have found
it to be the best strategy that fits me. I believe you and Italy blew it in
the spring of 1901. All moves after that showed a clear anti austrian
tendancy.
I will try a last ditch AIG press soon to see if I can help out and help
myself at the same time. For now I am reasoning that Italy will attack TRI
edged to do so by RT. Whilst RT attack Greece and BUD and cut VIE support.
I will see what I can do.
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > With that assumption, what would you like to see.
>
> The obvious answer is something safe for me that will
> still be usefull to you; but let's discuss details after the
> builds.
>
No problem
Message from Turkey to Austria
I'm a big fan of survival, myself!
I suspect you'll be Russia's target quite soon, so your survival might
hinge on keeping him at bay. We started this game working against him,
and it might be a good idea to try that again before he gets too big for
the two of us. With Germany gone, so is your biggest benefactor, and
Russia looks to be all around you.
jason
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
Thinking about my last message to you, I realized that I failed to include
the magic decoder ring. That is, I was so vague about what I was getting at
that I'm not sure I actually said anything.
Up until this point your cooperation with R and RT has bordered on puppetting
-- as you've explained, you've been looking to slow down Andy in order to
allow you some chance to breathe down the line, but haven't been worried
about your short term prospects.
Now there is an obvious threat to you from RT cooperation. While that is one
way I could go, I was very serious when I commented that there is lots of
value to me in ongoing AR cooperation, both positionally because of your size
(not to mention some personality differences between you and Jason). You
noted that as you worked against Andy, you hope I wouldn't take advantage of
you. So far I have not, and I don't want to start now. The problem is that
there is only so much we can (or need to) continue to do against Andy, given
that Jason is now in a position to force him out of the Balkans next year.
That means that AR cooperation would boil down to cooperation against T as
well as I. So the question is (or was supposed to be), are you interested in
cooperating in the Balkans? To me gathering Balkan centers seems to be your
most likely mechanism to secure you a good position than sitting still or
pressing against me (though obviously I'm a biased observer here), since
Jason has to move north, whereas I don't need to move south to establish my
position. So it seems a good fit for both of us.
Anyway, I hope this clarifies the crypticness of my last message somewhat.
Let me know what you think.
--- Eric
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
I am pretty confident of two things right now:
1. RT is still on
2. Italy has no interest in fighting you.
I understand you might be reluctant to believe #2. But it will be important
to remember, if I'm right about #1.
No need to do anything immediately - I just wanted you to have this in the
back of your mind as you are studying your correspondence.
Ben
England: BUILD Fleet Liverpool
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
Germany: REMOVE Fleet Helgoland Bight
Germany: REMOVE Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Smyrna
Centers
Austria: 3
England: 5
France: 7
Germany: 2
Italy: 5
Russia: 7
Turkey: 5
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