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England: Removes 1 unit
France: Builds 2 units
Germany: Builds 1 unit
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 2 units
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Germany to Russia
Well it looks like England decided to attack you with my support (something I forgot to give...oops).
I hope you manage to build a fleet in STP(NC). Nice going out east.
Message from Germany to England
Sorry Ben. I got spooked by you and France asking me to cut support from Sweden.
I found it very suspicious that you should both ask for the same thing within minutes of each other.
It was just to much of a coincidence, the two of you are still working together, until that is broken I have to stay with Russia.
Message from Germany to France
Well it looks like Russia is turning into a big bear, am I the only one attacking England or will you be joining in.
Message from Germany to England
And also with both of you asking for me to move to Sweden I forsaw ska - den supported by nth.
Russia clearly indicated that he wouldnt be supporting me and needed to selfsupport himself.
Our moves would have worked but as I stated EF are still working to close together.
Your moves also indicated such, I was hoping to see lon - eng. The move to the NTH would have only meant my downfall.
Message from Germany to England
I would be considering lon - eng supported by nth followed by a convoy of yor - bel in the fall.
I cant consider working with you until I see some firm commitment against France, obviously the same applies for him against you. In fact if you would have gone to ENG last turn then BEL would have been yours in the spring. It can still be done, but it will mean LON - ENG in the spring.
Message from Germany to France
Well looks like the Italian is finally shaping up to come your way. I hope you join me against England.
You dont want to be tied down in Germany. I can last a long time with 4 armies.
Message from Germany to Russia
If I see the fleet in STP(NC) then I would be willing to support you to SKA (if he doesnt disband it). You could even move NWY back and get the fleet from STP into NWY.
Message from England to all
Greetings all. I will be travelling through Friday - maybe Saturday - and
will correspond as much as I can.
Ben
Message from Germany to all
Hahahahahaha I hope none of you are observers to the PINNACLE VGFP 2002-2004
tournament via yahoo groups.
I posted my password, moves and press to the user group. Thanks to Doug for
pointing that out.
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
I don't see the reply I thought I sent you earlier this AM.
Odd about that forgotten support with Ben. :) I think perhaps it ended up in
another game I'm in. (I expect that at least one player in that other game is
following the press from this game, so that's really a joke for the
observers). All in all, I'm happy with the way both moves turned out.
F Stp/nc seems a reasonable choice. What are you looking to build and how
would you move forward? I can see you supporting me to Ska, but are you going
to get enough position on France that way?
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Eric,
>>I don't see the reply I thought I sent you earlier this AM.>>
Me neither, this is the first one I have seen. Mind you I did receive a
message I sent yesterday. I received it long after the
moves processed yet it was sent in plenty of time. We will have to take that
into the equation.
Well my Fleet in Denmark doesn't have much else to do. If England keeps his
fleet there (which I suspect) then I may as well support you to SKA. If he
removes it then we can look at meaningful moves for Denmark. I can't really
use it in an attack on France just yet. I am happy to watch you grow into
the NWG and convoy to England.
As for my build, it will be an army in BER. As long as I don't have to much
hassle from England then I can hold back the Frog. Italy will no doubt be
building an army in ROM...
Good to see I was correct on the GRE - SER supported by BUL move. Not really
surprised to see you move on RUM ;-)
Interesting developments out east. As you could see from the English moves
he is still taking long hot showers with France. In return for my support he
was meant to move on ENG. France was meant to go to IRI. How the world turns
hey. They are still a force to be reckoned with, I hope you do build in
STP(NC). Tally ho, tea and crumpets in London by 1905.
Message from Germany to Austria
Enjoying yourself down there, it seems like fun. Wish I was there.
Message from Germany to Italy
Interesting little war going on down there.
Message from Germany to Germany
Hahahahaha, I guess you guys/girls (if any of you are actually out there)
missed out on one press unless you are also signed up for the VGFP 2002-2004
tournament in yahoo groups.
Apparently I sent press to the yahoo user-group by mistake, this included my
password, moves and press.
Thank you to Doug for pointing it out.
Well I guessed right regarding England and France. I really messed up when I
lost Munich when I could have so easily kept it. I am putting my money on
England disbanding YOR.
For now, and for as long as the Russian will put up with me we are destined
to work together.
Lying continuously to England (and France) as they do me ;-) doesnt seem to
be helping any of us. I hope one of them crack soon. The developments in the
east are interesting to say the least. Italy should be building an army in
ROM.
The AI relationship seems a little difficult now. Maybe IRT will start to
carve Austria up.
Message from France to Germany
Tony:
My apologies. I had some last-minute information that seemed to indicate
that England was going to recover Norway and not have to disband. Given
that, I thought it best to go for the additional build and do everything
possible to encourage England to move out of a position where he could
defend against me.
In any case, I don't think we're in terribly bad shape. I have two builds
coming, one of which I think I can manage to place in Brest with Ben's
consent, especially given the support England will need against Russia
soon. I'm hoping to get A Yor or F Lon disbanded, and had I moved to Eng
or Iri, that probably wouldn't have happened.
So, F Bre and F Mar. That gives Andy something to consider as he decides
whether he wants to start venturing West, and gives me F Bre - Eng and
Por - Mao. I'm then in a position to help you into Nth and continue on to
Lvp the following year.
Make sense? Meanwhile, you can, ideally, begin preparing to deal with
Russia, because once Austria's dispatched, he'll be looking your way.
Erik
Message from England to all
Ok, I have *occasional* access - maybe about once per day, evenings my
time, for short periods, while I'm away.
I'll be up to full speed over the weekend.
Ben
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
Sorry for not getting back sooner - I ended up leaving in a big rush.
I may have done the same thing as you did, in your shoes. The fact
is, our plan did not have on its face a big enought benefit for
Germany, and you wanted to retake MUN.
Next time we work something out, I will try to keep out a better eye
for your own interests, & I will count on you complying if the deal is
indeed, good enough for the deserving German people.
Ben
Message from Germany to England
I bet France is pushing for a disband of the army or of the fleet in London.
You are at a crossroads once again.
If the fleet in SKA is removed then I will start to believe that EG can have a meaningful and mutual benificial relationship.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
Erik isn't asking for anything. But right now I'm not going to push a plan
with you - burned too many times. I'm glad to work with you, if you have
something suitable to your interests, but lay it out for me & I'll let you
know.
Not saying I won't do it - quite the contrary - just saying, don't ask me
to take a leap of faith right now.
We have plenty of time - let me know what's on your mind.
Ben
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
Sorry, I've been *terrible* about sending press this week. I'm still trying
to figure out the situation in the south -- I've really not heard much from
Jason, so don't really know what's coming from Turkey, though there is an
obvious guess. Haven't heard from Ben in the last few days too, so I have
no idea what his disband will be (not that I really expect him to tell me,
but still).
If what Erik tells me is true (and again, I haven't heard from him in a
bit), he might be willing to consider splitting off with England. Then
again he's being so coy with his responses that I can't tell if he's
serious -- he might just be trying to keep me friendly in case GR breaks
England down fast enough to get him in trouble.
On to matters closer to home:
I will admit that I am a little worried about you having so many armies
stacked up near our DMZ, so I'm trying to figure out ways to make it worth
your while to work with me for the long term, especially if we manage to
break up EF. I'd like our cooperation to be more than an arrangement of
convenience. But I've been so focused on the IAT triangle that I haven't
given as much thought to our situation as I should, and have really just
responded to your ideas.
You had talked about getting me into Nth this year. Assuming that happens I
think that F Nth should be used to help you hit the coastal areas of France
(Bel/Hol, etc.) rather than press an attack on England. You need to get
into Bur or Bel to really start to press France and break through the Army
logjam he's setting up, and that's probably more important than me getting
builds off of an England who is already suffering.
Alternately, we could look at getting you into Nth. You could try to go
through Nth to Eng, then I'd take Nth behind you. That gets me in Nth a
season or so later than you suggested, but again, getting you past those
French armies is probably more important than having me get access to
England, especially given how battered he is already. In many ways I think
that would be a superior arrangement. It gives us more equivalent growth,
it keeps your units moving west, and keeps my defense from getting spread
too thin.
These are obviously only initial thoughts, and are much too late in coming,
but what do you think? Does it make more sense for you to take Nth first?
Is there anything else we should be looking at?
Hope your weekend is going well.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Eric, good to hear from you.
Yes, the weekend is going fine. Hope yours is too.
Well I am sure you feel better with an army than a fleet of mine in Berlin.
I am more than willing to break throught the French line. That's one reason
I need the army. I am still in a lot of trouble with EF. Until they break up
I am totally pinned down.
I too have been trying to get France to turn on Ben, but to date everything
he has said (except for s1901) he has done the opposite.
A fleet in STP(NC) still has my vote. I dont mind moving on the NTH once you
get to SKA next spring. I dont even mind convoying you to England. I just
need to break up the EF alliance. No doubt he will disband London or
Yorkshire.
At the moment its a deadlock in Europe with the FG armies, it will be a
guessing game if he once again decides to move against me. I hope we can
stick together for some time. Dont worry about my armies they are all
heading west.
England: REMOVE Army Yorkshire
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Italy: BUILD Army Rome
Russia: BUILD Army Sevastopol
Russia: BUILD Army Warsaw
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Smyrna
Centers
Austria: 4
England: 3
France: 6
Germany: 5
Italy: 5
Russia: 7
Turkey: 4
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