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Message from Italy to England and Russia
My only and final comment (to Russia) is I don't appreciate wasting five
full days of painful negotiations just to have you decide to change your
orders two hours before the deadline. It is my sincere hope that I never
have to go thru that process again in this game or any game in the future.
Any mail from Russia to Italy for the remainder of this game will be deleted
unread.
Roberto
Message from Russia to all
> Movement results for Spring of 1914. (titleist.054)
> Italy: Army Bohemia -> Galicia.
> Italy: Army Munich -> Silesia.
> Italy: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Bohemia -> Galicia.
What's the matter, Roberto? Do you lack the guts to throw
the game to Roger by just giving him your Centers? You think
that attacking me, will give your poor play, and poor
sportsmanship, some sort of legitimacy?
Czar Nicholas II
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
*sigh* I asked him whether he was moving to Tyl or Kiel yesterday at 8 PM.
I had to ask four more times today in various ways to finally get an answer,
so I started looking at alternatives for defending against France alone. By
the time he FINALLY told me he was moving to Tyl, I had looked at
alternatives for defending against France alone, and I decided that the move
to Arm was important enough to delay the capture of Rum until Fall. So, I
think to myself, "His big complaint is that I lie about my moves, so I'd
better tell them about the change.", and in response he does this! *ARGHHH*
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
Roger,
I request that you delay your solo until Italy is eliminated.
Nick.
Message [from France] to Russia
Thank you for your suggested moves. They were interesting. Although I
was certain that they would work, I felt that down the road they would
require too many additional resources to maintain and required too many
opportunity costs elsewhere. Also, making progress against England
would have been too slow and likely netted very little.
Regards,
Minister of War
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
>I request that you delay your solo until Italy is eliminated.
You best hurry :-)
I could be talked into it, but not at the risk of getting stalemated.
--King Roger XIII
Message from Russia to France
Roger,
> >I request that you delay your solo until Italy is eliminated.
> You best hurry :-)
> I could be talked into it, but not at the risk of getting stalemated.
Whatever. I lack the interest at this point to make the effort.
Eric.
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
It is just a game :-) Take the weekend off and think about something
else. Then do what you think is best. The move to Serbia was nicely
done by the way. I was not expecting it to come from Budapest.
I am sure that there were better moves than the ones that I made. But I
waited until late last night and tried to reason it out while my wife
watched dateline or something. It was about repairmen taking advantage
of women. It was distracting me! A bad thing for an average tactician.
Roger
Message from Russia to France
Roger,
> It is just a game :-) Take the weekend off and think about something
> else. Then do what you think is best.
No, it's the 2000 Vermont Group Full Press Tournament Championship
game, and therefore, in effect, the Judge World Championship game. 8-)
Also, at least until it went to hell in personality conflict, it was going
to
be a showcase game at the Pouch. (At this point, I don't know if Doug
will want to create a permanent record of this as an example of Vermont
Group play. 8-)
> The move to Serbia was nicely done by the way. I was not expecting
> it to come from Budapest.
Thanks, had Italy moved rationally, the Fall would have been tough for
you.
Eric.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
I'm available, if you want to discuss the Fall moves.
Nick.
Message from Russia to Master, England, France, and Italy
I have issued all HOLD orders and Set Draw.
Eric.
Message from England to Russia
>I'm available, if you want to discuss the Fall moves.
I will get back to you as soon as Roberto resonds to a message that I sent
him. Please don't attempt to write him yourself.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> I will get back to you as soon as Roberto resonds to a message that
> I sent him. Please don't attempt to write him yourself.
Thanks. I have no plans to write to anyone at this point, unless they
write to me.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
OK, let's get to work. I believe I have Roberto's proxy. There are some
conditions -- the obvious, don't let Russia win. Also, he probably will
not stand for Budapest supp Vienna->Trieste.
Let's see what we can come up with.
[Set draw is hopeless, I'm afraid. Roger would have to be insane to go for it.]
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
>Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>I believe I have Roberto's proxy.
Thanks.
>There are some conditions -- the obvious, don't let Russia win. Also, he
>probably will
>not stand for Budapest supp Vienna->Trieste.
Understood.
>Let's see what we can come up with.
Roger has 15 at this point, (if we shift Ser to my
ownership, which is not unreasonable), so he needs to
take three, and lose none to win.
He has supported attacks on:
Belgium - using Bur and Pic (Bel is unlikely, since you have
it so easily defended, but listed for completenesses sake)
Munich OR Vienna - using Tyl and Tri or Bur
Budapest OR Serbia - using Tri and Rum
Sevastopol - using Bla and Rum
OR an open attack on Ankara from Bla.
I have attacks open to me on Tri or Gre, Rum or Bul, and
Ank or Smy. What's your sense of what Roger will try?
Go for the Italian Centers figuring they'll be lightly
defended? Go for position and try to win next year?
Or attack me, hoping for Italian help?
>[Set draw is hopeless, I'm afraid.]
It was a gesture to you and Roberto, primarily, but
at this point, I'd really rather resign than go on
playing. (VGers don't do that, though.)
Nick/Eric.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>at this point, I'd really rather resign than go on
>playing. (VGers don't do that, though.)
I know what you mean. However, apparently we are about to have a long
break. Ken is having surgery (not life-threatening) on Wednesday. That
will give us all some time to calm down.
>Roger has 15 at this point, (if we shift Ser to my
>ownership, which is not unreasonable), so he needs to
>take three, and lose none to win.
I think he will realize that this is impossible. I am almost 100% certain
that Roberto will not actively aid a French win in the sense of full
coordination of moves. I think Roger will be conservative and go mainly
for position. He will convoy Apulia either to Constantinople or to Greece.
The latter would require Rumania->Serbia to guarantee success. He *might*
gamble on Vienna, thinking that Roberto is heading for Warsaw. I doubt
that Roger will seriously try for Munich, since I can cover it myself. I
rather expect him to leave Sevastopol alone and go for Ankara.
Here is one set of moves that I came up with.
Ruhr supp Silesia->Munich
Galicia supp Vienna
Budapest supp Ukraine->Rumania
Vienna & Serbia supp Albania->Trieste
Armenia->Sevastopol
and perhaps StP->Moscow, Berlin->Silesia, although these may not be essential.
This set of moves cedes Ankara to France while attempting to take Serbia,
Rumania, and Trieste. There is a very good chance that this is what will
happen. They protect Vienna. They protect Serbia and Budapest, because
both Trieste and Rumania are attacked externally. They should be
acceptible to Italy, because he keeps Moscow and Vienna. France could get
Sevastopol, but only if he doesn't try for Ankara.
There are surely many other good choices, especially with Ankara, Smyrna,
Greece, and Bulgaria wide open. I believe Armenia->Smyrna will succeed, so
that is very tempting, but what if France convoys that army to
Constantinople?
Let me know what you think. I don't believe the situation is desperate.
Do try to think of moves that preserve at least two centers for Italy.
Don't write him. Unless he changes his mood, I expect him to cooperate
with me.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
> >Roger has 15 at this point, (if we shift Ser to my
> >ownership, which is not unreasonable), so he needs to
> >take three, and lose none to win.
>
> I think he will realize that this is impossible. I am almost 100% certain
> that Roberto will not actively aid a French win in the sense of full
> coordination of moves. I think Roger will be conservative and go mainly
> for position. He will convoy Apulia either to Constantinople or to
Greece.
> The latter would require Rumania->Serbia to guarantee success. He *might*
> gamble on Vienna, thinking that Roberto is heading for Warsaw. I doubt
> that Roger will seriously try for Munich, since I can cover it myself. I
> rather expect him to leave Sevastopol alone and go for Ankara.
It does seem unlikely if Italy doesn't oppose Russian actions, and Russia
tries to stop the French Solo. How likely either of those occurances seem
to Roger is open to debate, though. If he tries and fails, how bad off will
he be, and how much of a risk-taker is Roger?
> Let me know what you think. I don't believe the situation is desperate.
> Do try to think of moves that preserve at least two centers for Italy.
> Don't write him.
I will consider you moves, and I won't write to Roberto. The only reason I
did so last turn was because you were refusing my letters. If I had your
Proxy and Roberto's, and moves were due tonight, I would order the
following:
Nth S Bel
Bel S Ruh-Bur
Ber S Sil-Mun
Vie S Gal-Bud
Ser S Alb-Tri
Ukr S Bud-Rum
Arm-Ank
StP-Mos
Swe-Den
This would give me at least one build, and position me to retake Sev next
year.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
>I will consider you moves, and I won't write to Roberto. The only reason I
>did so last turn was because you were refusing my letters.
Your sin last time wasn't writing Roberto, it was ignoring all that had
been written and changing everything at the last minute. A better way to
have proceeded would have been to request Roberto's permission for the
changes. With no response, use the original plan.
>If I had your Proxy and Roberto's, and moves were due tonight, I would
>order the following:
[I am led to believe that I have Roberto's proxy. You don't have mine. 8-) ]
>Nth S Bel
>Bel S Ruh-Bur
>Ber S Sil-Mun
>Vie S Gal-Bud
>Ser S Alb-Tri
>Ukr S Bud-Rum
>Arm-Ank
>StP-Mos
>Swe-Den
Fairly similar to what I suggested. I would suggest Vienna supp
Albania->Trieste to make that conquest more certain. Perhaps let
Galicia->Budapest go on it's own.
Sweden->Denmark is unnecessary. I won't approve.
Allen/Ivy
Message from Russia to England
> Your sin last time wasn't writing Roberto, it was ignoring all that had
> been written and changing everything at the last minute. A better way to
> have proceeded would have been to request Roberto's permission for the
> changes. With no response, use the original plan.
If Roberto had answered my perfectly reasonable question about which
way he was moving, 28 hours before deadline, instead of forcing me to
ask it over and over again, and forcing me to consider the "lone Russian
defense" up until a few hours before the deadline, it wouldn't have been
a last minute change. Additionally, the move to Serbia and the move to
Armenia had been discussed from the very beginning as options, so it was
hardly ignoring everything that had been written.
> >If I had your Proxy and Roberto's, and moves were due tonight, I would
> >order the following:
>
> [I am led to believe that I have Roberto's proxy. You don't have mine.
8-) ]
I'm aware of that. 8-)
> Fairly similar to what I suggested. I would suggest Vienna supp
> Albania->Trieste to make that conquest more certain. Perhaps let
> Galicia->Budapest go on it's own.
I felt that Roberto would get more satisfaction from attacking Budapest in
force. ;^} It also bounces Rum S Tri-Bud.
> Sweden->Denmark is unnecessary. I won't approve.
My moves give me from one to three builds, without Swe-Den, it's zero to
two.
In my view, if I'm to stop the French Solo, a build is, in fact, necessary.
You
have a couple of extra Units that can be sacrificed to the cause without
cost to
your defense against France. ;^} I will, however, look for ways to assure
a
build without taking Nwy or Den.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
The storm knocked out our TV cable in the middle of the Jets-Raiders game.
Our e-mail was also down. With nothing else to do, Joanne and I went
outside and shoveled 9 inches of snow from our long driveway. Man, did they
misforcast this one.
>I felt that Roberto would get more satisfaction from attacking Budapest in
>force. ;^} It also bounces Rum S Tri-Bud.
One of the reasons I like my set of moves (with Budapest supp
Ukraine->Rumania) is that Budapest and Serbia are 100% safe. I think that
your Armenia->Ankara improves my suggestion even more.
Here is another consideration that Armenia->Ankara brings up. Your moves
could leave Italy with Munich, Vienna, Budapest and Ankara. That's one too
many and therefore a waste of resources. Armenia->Ankara has excellent
chances of bouncing, so I think that Munich and Vienna suffice without
Budapest. I think Roberto will be happy with this. He has told me several
times that saving three units is not as essential as other goals.
>I will, however, look for ways to assure a
>build without taking Nwy or Den.
I think my moves altered with Armenia->Ankara guarantee you at least one
build (Serbia) plus a near guarantee for Trieste. The
Rumania-Ankara-Sevastopol situation can be no worse than even for you.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy/Allen,
> The storm knocked out our TV cable in the middle of the Jets-Raiders game.
> Our e-mail was also down. With nothing else to do, Joanne and I went
> outside and shoveled 9 inches of snow from our long driveway. Man, did
they
> misforcast this one.
We got about two inches. My son, Ian, and I went out and did the
snow-angel,
snowball fight, snowman thing for a couple of hours. It's our first snow of
the
season.
> One of the reasons I like my set of moves (with Budapest supp
> Ukraine->Rumania) is that Budapest and Serbia are 100% safe. I think that
> your Armenia->Ankara improves my suggestion even more.
I'm hesitant to order Ukr-Rum, since that will make it more difficult to
recapture
Sevastopol, but I'll consider it.
> I think my moves altered with Armenia->Ankara guarantee you at least one
> build (Serbia) plus a near guarantee for Trieste. The
> Rumania-Ankara-Sevastopol situation can be no worse than even for you.
Ser-Bul, Bud S Alb-Ser has potential too, I think. Roger has to worry about
supported attacks on Tri and Gre, and Arm-Smy, so he might just overlook
Ser-Bul. (I hate fighting in the Balkans, too many possibilities.)
Nick/Eric.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Since I have to get back to Roberto, do you think we can settle on moves by
early afternoon tomorrow? at least his moves.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Since I have to get back to Roberto, do you think we can settle on
> move by early afternoon tomorrow? at least his moves.
Why don't we go with Sil-Mun, Gal S Vie, Vie S Alb-Tri.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
I sent Roberto his moves. I will let you know when I hear back from him.
The more I consider the following moves, the more I like them:
Ruhr & Berlin supp Silesia->Munich
Galicia supp Vienna
Budapest supp Ukraine->Rumania
Vienna & Serbia supp Albania->Trieste
Armenia->Ankara
You are guaranteed to get Serbia and at least one build.
The probability of getting Trieste is very, very, high. France has too
many spaces to cover, and will not expect Italy to help you.
You even have a decent shot at Ankara.
France can't take Sevastopol without giving up Rumania AND Ankara.
>I'm hesitant to order Ukr-Rum, since that will make it more difficult to
>recapture Sevastopol, but I'll consider it.
It won't be hard. I give you a 95% chance of getting two builds. You will
have armies in Warsaw and Moscow after the builds.
I think I can safely enter my moves now.
Ivy/Allen
Message from England to all
Can anyone tell me why I have seen no new messages at rec.games.diplomacy
in several weeks?
Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >I'm hesitant to order Ukr-Rum, since that will make it more >difficult
>to recapture Sevastopol, but I'll consider it.
>I give you a 95% chance of getting two builds
Of course, in that 5% chance, I've got a real problem.
>I think I can safely enter my moves now.
Could I interest you in Nwy-Nwg, Swe-Fin?
Nick.
P.S. I'd guess you're news server is having some sort
of problem, (or you have Joe Brennen in your 'killfile' 8-),
r.g.d has had normal volume for me.
Message from England to Russia
> >I give you a 95% chance of getting two builds
>
>Of course, in that 5% chance, I've got a real problem.
That statement appears to agree, tacitly, with my contention that two
builds is highly probable. Even if you only get one build, you don't have
a "real problem." You have a nuisance at worst. By moving StP->Moscow and
building an army in Warsaw, you are quite prepared to take back
Sevastopol. If you do get two builds, as expected, then you can rebuild
StP. In the meantime, France will continue having serious problems
defending all he has.
We expect him to have to disband two units. These will be the fleet in
Western Med and the army in Piedmont, I expect. The next unit he loses
after those will be very painful. The catch -- the very obvious catch --
is keeping Italy happy. Another catch, I suppose, is maintain cooperation
between the two of us. Speaking for myself, I am still somewhat wary. 8-)
>Could I interest you in Nwy-Nwg, Swe-Fin?
I am not crazy about the lack of symmetry. That still leaves you next to
an open Norway, while I would have no immediate threat in return. Here is
a counter-suggestion: Norway->Sweden & Sweden->Norway.
I still haven't heard from Roberto.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
> >Could I interest you in Nwy-Nwg, Swe-Fin?
>I am not crazy about the lack of symmetry. That still leaves you next to
>an open Norway, while I would have no immediate threat in return.
Umm, no. F Fin would not be adjacent to Nwy, and
A Stp is moving to Moscow, and of course, both
Ber and Ruh are adjacent to Kiel.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
>Umm, no. F Fin would not be adjacent to Nwy,
Ugh. I am so bad at tactics. Sorry. Finland is adjacent to Norway, but a
fleet in Finland is not. You are right.
Nevertheless, I do not want to move to Nwg. Doing so runs the risk of you
taking BOTH Denmark and Norway. I am not suggesting that you would
actually do this, but none of this has anything to do with our primary task
of stopping France.
Still no word from Roberto.
Actually, still no word from you on your moves either. In some sense, I
don't need to know, because my moves and Roberto's moves are now somewhat
independent of yours.
There is one important exception, Vienna supp Albania->Trieste. It would
be the last straw (of many last straws) if we asked Roberto for this, but
then did something different.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >Umm, no. F Fin would not be adjacent to Nwy,
>Finland is adjacent to Norway, but a
>fleet in Finland is not. You are right.
>Nevertheless, I do not want to move to Nwg. Doing so runs the risk of you
>taking BOTH Denmark and Norway.
And you holding in Nwy presents a risk of you taking
StP as I move south to fight France. That risk is
much bigger in my mind, since you have the extra
Units available to you, while I NEED to move StP-Mos
to defend against France. If you want Alb-Tri, I'll
have to insist on Nwy-Nwg, Swe-Fin. Disengaging is
good for us both. You must see that.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>And you holding in Nwy presents a risk of you taking
>StP as I move south to fight France.
Sweden->Norway & Norway->Sweden makes it impossible for me to take
advantage of StP->Moscow.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >And you holding in Nwy presents a risk of you taking
> >StP as I move south to fight France.
>Sweden->Norway & Norway->Sweden makes it impossible for me to take
>advantage of StP->Moscow.
No, it just opens up Nth-Nwy, Swe-Nwy (*bounce*),
Nwy-StP. I need to see Nwy-Nwg as evidence that
you're serious about this. I'm offering Swe-Fin
which increases the security of Nwy and Den for
you, and I HAVE to move against France or we both
lose. Please, give us both a measure of security
in the North by agreeing to pull back.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> >Sweden->Norway & Norway->Sweden makes it impossible for me to take
> >advantage of StP->Moscow.
>
>No, it just opens up Nth-Nwy,
I need Nth to protect Belgium. I am not attacking you; I never have,
except for the one time I took a center that Germany otherwise would have had.
I see no reason to expose two of my centers to you. You already jumped
into Norway and Denmark one other time.
How does this happen? How do we get into these discussions? Don't you
think I want to stop France? Don't you think I know everything would be
ruined if I messed with you in the north? Please don't answer these questions.
This is totally unlike anything I have ever experienced in Diplomacy.
Please leave the north alone.
Please work on the south.
I will not debate Norway any more. If you want my advice on the south, I
will respond.
Allen/Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>I need Nth to protect Belgium.
You need Nth to protect Bel ONLY if France orders
Bre-ECh, Pic S Bur-Bel, which is less likely than
an attack on Munich.
>I see no reason to expose two of my centers to you.
You're not! StP is moving to Mos to retake Sev, and
IF you'll agree to Nwy-Nwg, Swe will move to Fin.
>You already jumped into Norway and Denmark one other time.
Yes, because of your stated intention to make
"harmless" defensive move due to my illness induced
silence. Then in the Fall, I moved out, as promised.
>How does this happen? How do we get into these discussions? Don't you
>think I want to stop France?
Sure you do, but you also want to win the tournament.
>Don't you think I know everything would be
>ruined if I messed with you in the north?
Again that's a judgement call. Would I throw the
game to France to keep you from winning the tournament,
when the alternative is a three or four-way draw with
people whose JDPR is two to three hundred points higher
than mine.
>This is totally unlike anything I have ever experienced in Diplomacy.
Welcome to the world of tournament Dip.
>I will not debate Norway any more. If you want my advice on the south, I
>will respond.
If you agree to move Nwy-Nth, I will move Swe-Fin,
StP-Mos, Alb-Tri, Ukr-Rum, Arm-Ank. Show me
where you can get a better deal. I'm not asking
for a lot here. You've already demonstrated your
willingness to throw away your stalemate line if
you don't like my moves, why would I risk that again,
and lie to you at a time like this?
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
>Welcome to the world of tournament Dip.
I've been around. Welcome to Nick.
Suggestion. Just hold StP. StP->Moscow is unnecessary. You can build in
Warsaw and Moscow next winter anyway.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
I finaly heard from Roberto. He has not exactly rubber stamped my
suggestions. I asked for "Silesia->Munich (supported by me)." He
countered with "ber->mun; sil-ber." I don't see why not. He would be in
Berlin and me in Munich instead of vice-versa. Berlin is safer for him.
Roberto also said, "Russia has my blessing to order arm->ank if you think
that best."
Here is the catch. On Vienna supp Albania->Trieste, he said he was not in
the mood right now to support Russian attacks.
This disappoints me.
You are pretty much on your own now. I am confident that you will make
intelligent moves against France. I fear what you might pull in the north.
I am going to send one more message to Roberto with copy to you.
Ivy/Allen
Message from England to Italy and Russia
Roberto,
This is probably my last e-mail before the moves are due. I have had
enough back-and-forth with Russia and I must devote some time to real life
matters. I am summarizing the Italian and English moves as I understand
them. Nick is getting a copy of this, so he can use the information as
best he can to plan his anti-French moves.
Liverpool->NAO
Irish supp Channel
Channel supp Belgium
North Sea supp Belgium
Belgium supp Ruhr
Ruhr supp Berlin->Munich
Berlin->Munich
Norway holds
Silesia->Berlin
Galicia supp Vienna
Vienna holds? or supp Galicia?
You aversion for Vienna supp Albania->Trieste messes up the primary plan
that I suggested to Russia, but he had alternate ideas anyway.
I don't know what is going to happen, because Nick and I are beginning to
argue after a good start to negotiations. Let's stick to the above moves
and hope for the best. I am confident that Nick will make good anti-French
moves, simply because it is in his best interest to do so.
As for me, I have tried the past few days and now must leave it up to Nick.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> I've been around. Welcome to Nick.
Fine. I guess it's perfectly reasonable for you to fear a stab from me that
weakens my attack against France, an almost certainly ensures that Italy
throws the game to France even if you don't. If, on the other hand, I'm
concerned about a stab from you that Italy would completely support,
and which would leave me faced with the choice of throwing away a
perfectly reasonable shot at a three-way (that is better than I had any
right
to expect), just to spite you, or to accept the loss and play on, I'm being
paranoid and uncooperative. Nwy-Nwg, Swe-Fin, StP-Mos INCREASES
you security, damnit! Is it so bad to increase mine as well?
> Suggestion. Just hold StP. StP->Moscow is unnecessary. You can build
> in Warsaw and Moscow next winter anyway.
Your confidence that I'll get two builds is heartwarming, but since the
damned Italian is refusing to support my attack on Tri, I would be surprised
indeed, if he doesn't order Vie S Gal-Bud, or Gal-War. He doesn't give a
rat's ass if France wins, as long as I don't, at this point.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>I would be surprised indeed, if he doesn't order Vie S Gal-Bud, or Gal-War.
Yeah. I can't rule it out, but I don't think he will do it. He has not
lied to me that I can recall.
>He doesn't give a rat's ass if France wins, as long as I don't, at this point.
Pretty close to the mark again, but I know he does not want France to win
either. The only thing that keeps him going, at least every other turn, is
a sense of pride in finishing honorably.
You have my moves. I am not attacking you. Please do your best.
Allen
Message from Russia to England
Allen,
> You have my moves. I am not attacking you. Please do your best.
Imagine this for a moment. Supose I moved Swe-Den, or Swe S StP-Nwy.
How would Italy react? My thought is that he would actively throw the game
to France. Now, suppose that I move Swe-Fin, StP-Mos, and next Spring
or next Fall, you moved Nwy-Swe, or Nwy-StP. How would Italy react?
Wouldn't he cheer you on and do a little happy dance? So, the only reason
I can find why you feel you can't move Nwy-Nwg, is that you plan to take
Swe or StP at some point in the future. Why can't we establish a DMZ, of
Nwy and Swe, and forge a less-strained working relationship over it? I'm
moving Swe-Fin, StP-Mos as discussed. Please reconsider your position
on Nwy-Nwg.
Eric.
England: Army Belgium SUPPORT Army Ruhr
England: Army Berlin → Munich
England: Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Army Belgium
England: Fleet Irish Sea SUPPORT Fleet English Channel
England: Fleet Liverpool → North Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Army Belgium
England: Fleet Norway HOLD
England: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Berlin → Munich
France: Fleet Aegean Sea CONVOY Army Apulia → Smyrna
France: Army Apulia → Ionian Sea → Aegean Sea → Smyrna
France: Fleet Black Sea → Ankara (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Brest SUPPORT Army Picardy
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT English Army Ruhr → Munich (*void*)
France: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Apulia → Smyrna
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → North Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
France: Army Paris SUPPORT Army Burgundy
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT Army Burgundy
France: Army Piedmont → Tyrolia
France: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) SUPPORT Fleet Western Mediterranean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Trieste → Serbia (*bounce*)
France: Army Tyrolia → Bohemia
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Galicia → Budapest
Italy: Army Silesia → Berlin
Italy: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Galicia → Budapest
Russia: Army Albania → Serbia (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Armenia → Ankara (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Albania → Serbia (*cut, destroyed*)
Russia: Army Serbia → Bulgaria
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Moscow
Russia: Fleet Sweden → Finland
Russia: Army Ukraine → Rumania (*bounce*)
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