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Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>England: Fleet Norway -> St Petersburg (north coast)
Ooops!
Never thought of that possibility. Let's see what we can work out. I
didn't expect the move to Silesia either.
I just got our of bed and will be heading to work. More later. There is a
lot to digest here.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Somehow we need to get you a build this year. For starters, I expect
Germany will probably double-attack Sweden (but which way?) and
double-attack Warsaw.
I suspect that Livonia->StP->Norway will work, however there is always that
chance the Germany, who is quite clever, will consider Bothnia->StP.
You have the most at stake, so I probably will follow your lead on
this. Whatever we do, I think it is important that we guarantee, if
possible, that Germany will lose two centers this year. That will make
next year all the more easier.
Italy really is going to let France walk over him. He says he is going to
destroy Rome this winter and I believe him. France set a precedent by
asking that we go slow in Germany. Now I think that you and I have the
opening to ask that France go slow in Italy.
Ivy
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto, My Friend,
Ivy tells me you're threatening to throw the game
to France. Is there any truth to this, and if
you've made it, do you plan to carry it out? I
won't share anything you divulge with Ivy, but
your answer could affect my dealings with Germany.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
Xavier, My Friend,
We may have a problem... Ivy has the potential
for four builds this year. (StP, Den, Hol, and
Bre.) Germany claims StP/SC-GoB, Nwy-StP/NC
was arranged, but Ivy says he hasn't heard from
Fredd. Fredd could easily be trying to sow
dissent in EFR, but the possibility is one we
have to consider. What are you hearing from
GI?
Nick
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Ivy tells me you're threatening to throw the game
> to France.
>
I've been told the reason Germany moved to Tyrolia was I was too big.
I've been told the reason France moved my direction was I was too big.
I've been told the reason England allowed both to happen was I was too big.
I've been told the world will stand together to stop the player that is too
big.
I concluded I no longer should be that player.
> Is there any truth to this, and if
> you've made it, do you plan to carry it out?
> your answer could affect my dealings with Germany.
>
Before I answer, I request to know how the answer will affect your dealings
with Germany.
> I won't share anything you divulge with Ivy,
You have my blessing to divulge this information to Ivy.
Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
Message from Russia to Italy
>Message from Italy to Russia in 'titleist':
>I've been told the world will stand together to stop the player that is too
>big.
>
>I concluded I no longer should be that player.
Throw your Centers to me! I'll put up with the
Early Leader Syndrome. 8-)
>I request to know how the answer will affect your dealings with Germany.
Well, I was going to suggest, Boh S Bur-Mun.
Germany is determined to keep me from growing, and
to try to eliminate me before he is eliminated, no
matter what options I offer him to disengage, so I
figure that the faster I eliminate him, the better.
The other request I had was that you not attack
TA Gal, so that I could get Ali to order Gal S War.
Are you willing to consider either or both of these
options?
>Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
Your government has been taken over by Austrian
expatriates????
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
I never used the word 'threat' to England. I merely told him what I planned
to do with fleet Rome and fleet Ionean. I told him the truth. My disband
will be the fleet in Rome and I will be moving Ion-Eas this fall.
>
> Well, I was going to suggest, Boh S Bur-Mun.
>
I've made that suggestion to France as well. I have not heard back yet.
> The other request I had was that you not attack
> TA Gal, so that I could get Ali to order Gal S War.
Let me know how your progress goes in getting Turkey to make this order. I
will take your request under advisement.
>
> Your government has been taken over by Austrian
> expatriates????
>
Roberto was vacationing in Tunis this spring. We haven't heard from him.
Somebody has to man the ship.
Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
>
> Throw your Centers to me! I'll put up with the
> Early Leader Syndrome.
>
I would if I could.
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali, My Friend,
Well, Germany's moves came as a surprise. He claims they were arranged
with Ivy, but Ivy stabbed him for Hol, and he may be right. Still Fredd
insists
on trying to take my Centers, rather than letting me grow to help him fight
Ivy,
so I have little sympathy for him.
Would you be willing to order Gal S War? If so, I'll try to convince
Ivy to
not attack Gal. Neither one of you has much reason to lie to me, and both
of
you want me to grow, (though for different reasons), so I'm hoping that I
can
free up Lvn to do something else.
Thanks,
Nick.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
Germany has pointed out England's build potential, but
did not mention that the moves near St. Petes were
arranged. Of course I see the danger that you are
mentioning. This is why I will likely not move from
Belgium to Ruhr. I am not sure whether to react or
trust Ivy. He could make the big jump to huge. But he
would not damage me too much and Italy would then be
allowed to grow as I retreated to fight England. This
would allow Italy to eliminate Turkey and get to 13 or
so centers and have a 100% defensible line. I will
remind England of that and see what he says.
Has he promised to move out of St. Petes?
--Xavier
Message from Russia to France
Xavier,
> Germany has pointed out England's build potential, but
> did not mention that the moves near St. Petes were
> arranged. Of course I see the danger that you are
> mentioning.
I really tend to suspect that Germany is just hoping to
sow distrust, but Ivy has been a little too "unconcerned"
about what happens after Germany is eliminated, for me
to trust him completely.
> he would not damage me too much and Italy would then
> be allowed to grow as I retreated to fight England. This
> would allow Italy to eliminate Turkey and get to 13 or
> so centers and have a 100% defensible line. I will
> remind England of that and see what he says.
Good point. Of course, Ivy is also worried about Italy
throwing Centers to you to get out of the ELS bind he's
in.
> Has he promised to move out of St. Petes?
No, given GA Pru, GA Sil, War is under threat, so it's
unclear whether I can afford to move Lvn-StP. We're
still mulling options. He says he wants to see me build
this year, but I'm not sure that will be possible. I did
propose Boh S Bur-Mun to Roberto, though.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Master to all
One day extension due to a player absence.
Doug
Message [from Turkey] to all
DATELINE: CONSTANTINOPLE
In a surprise announcement to global press
organizations, Turkey today revealed that Ali Baba, the
Turkish leader thought to have been killed in the
recent naval disaster in Bulgaria, is still alive and
continues to control the government. Apparently, Baba
was found unconscious in the wreckage, and was spirited
away by loyalist followers.
Baba apologized to Turkish citizens for his
previously erratic and unexplainable behavior, accusing
Italian operatives of poisoning his food with
psychotropic drugs. Baba's love for Italian food had
resulted in a large number of foreign nationals among
his kitchen staff, many of whom turned out to be agents
of the Italian regime.
"Though this represents a clear failure on the part
of our intelligence apparatus," Baba said, "we have
taken appropriate and prudent steps to tighten
security, and we now believe that most of the foreign
elements have been eliminated." Baba refused to
clarify what he meant by "eliminated."
Since the Bulgarian catastrophe, Turkish officials
have accused Italy of harboring fanatical zealots who
have carried out a number of suicide attacks against
Turkish interests, resulting in unprecedented loss of
civilian lives.
Referring to Italian leader Roberto as a "crazed
lunatic", Baba's government has attempted to form a
global coalition to fight what he calls a threat to
humanity. "These suicide attacks are an affront to
civilized people everywhere, and we call on the nations
of the world to stand with us against these terrorist
fanatics," Baba said.
"They wish to see us demoralized, but the result has
been an unprecedented level of unity among the Turkish
people," Baba claimed, displaying visible emotion
during the press conference. Outside observers have
confirmed that clashes between rival warlords seem to
have abated. Though many tribal leaders were recently
bitter enemies, most have joined forces in a display of
national unity.
However, some observers inside Turkey, who spoke
only on condition of anonymity, remain pessimistic that
these efforts can save Baba's government. As one
official put it, "if someone is so fervently
anti-Turkish that he is willing to give up his own life
to destroy us, there is really very little we can do to
counter such attacks."
Nevertheless, most Turkish military authorities
remain strong in their resolve to combat this new form
of warfare. "Apparently, these fanatics believe they
will receive greater rewards in the afterlife if they
kill our people in the process," one source in the
Turkish War Ministry proclaimed. "If that's their
belief, then we can only endeavor to send them to that
afterlife as speedily as possible."
So far, reaction from Western governments have been
mixed. One French official has reportedly assured Baba
that his nation stands "shoulder to shoulder" with the
Turkish people, and has vowed to do his part to punish
those responsible for these "atrocities". However, it
appears that French assistance may come only in the
form of humanitarian aid, rather than direct military
assistance.
The effect on this war-torn nation has been
significant and remarkable. Though tensions run high,
most Turks remain grimly resolved. "We will fight to
the last man," said one resident of Constantinople.
"They may have superior technology, but they will never
crush the Turkish spirit."
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> Well, Germany's moves came as a surprise. He claims they were arranged
> with Ivy, but Ivy stabbed him for Hol, and he may be right. Still Fredd
> insists
> on trying to take my Centers, rather than letting me grow to help him fight
> Ivy,
> so I have little sympathy for him.
Indeed. I was glad to see you and Ivy continuing to cooperate. It looks like
Germany is in some trouble, which can only be good news for Russia.
> Would you be willing to order Gal S War? If so, I'll try to convince
> Ivy to
> not attack Gal. Neither one of you has much reason to lie to me, and both
> of
> you want me to grow, (though for different reasons), so I'm hoping that I
> can
> free up Lvn to do something else.
That's a tough request. So far I only see one way to prevent Italy from
taking another center from me, and it requires the use of Gal elsewhere. I
also sicerely doubt that you could convince Roberto not to attack Gal. (I
assume you meant Roberto, not Ivy). His move to Boh seems pretty obvious, and
I fully expect to be dislodged from Gal this turn. If you have some influence
with Roberto, you might ask him to order Boh-Sil, which along with Lvn-Pru
would be much more likely to save Warsaw than any easily-cuttable support from
Gal.
Looks like we've got a few days before the deadline, and I'll continue to
study the board. Hopefully there's something I haven't seen yet. I do want
you to prevail against Germany; but from my perspective I'm still under
ever-increasing threat from Italy, and he continues to present a much stronger
threat than Fredd does. So I won't rule out your request, but I'm having a
hard time envisioning how I can help without sacrificing either Rum or Bul.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
>Message from Turkey to Russia in 'titleist':
>
>His move to Boh seems pretty obvious, and
>I fully expect to be dislodged from Gal this turn.
Roberto indicated that he offered Boh S Bur-Mun
to Prince Boar. I'll seek confirmation. I do
understand your concerns, though.
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
Xavier,
Did Roberto offer to order Boh S Bur-Mun?
He claims that he did. I'm trying to arrange
Gal S War.
Thanks,
Nick.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
He did ask if he should support me to Munich, but I assumed that he was
being sarcastic. He has not written me since.
--Xavier
Message from France to England, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Turkey
Just to let you know that I will be out of the
country Sat, Sun, and Mon. Do write and I
will try to respond Monday night. Tuesday will
be a humdinger of a day, but I *will* find time on
Tuesday. I do not want to cause more than the
minimum delay.
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to England and France
Gentlemen,
The German move to Silesia suggests that Fredd is determined
to keep me from building, and it looks like he'll succeed. A
supported attack on War, and/or GoB-StP/SC will negate any
attempt by the Russian 2nd Guards Army to control St.
Petersburg, and any action on Denmark will result in a bounce,
or an exchange of Centers. I have concluded, therefore, that for
the good of the alliance, I should once again set aside any attempt
to achieve Russian growth, and focus on causing maximum damage
to the German economy. So, my suggestions are:
England:
F StP/NC HOLD
A Hol -> Kiel
F Nth -> Den
F ECh -> Nth
France:
A Bel -> Hol
A Bur S A Kiel -> Mun
Russia:
F Swe S F Nth -> Den
A Lvn -> Pru
A War S A Lvn -> Pru
Italy:
A Boh -> Sil
If I can't get Roberto to agree to Boh-Sil, I'll fall back to Lvn S War.
Comments, criticism, suggestions for improvement?
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Would you be willing to consider, Boh-Sil? Ali is reluctant to
order anything but Gal S Rum.
In Haste,
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Would you be willing to consider, Boh-Sil?
>
I don't think so.
In haste,
Idalia
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
It's good to hear from you!
As you know, the Prince is out of town. I suspect he will approve of any
reasonable moves that you and I agree on.
Here are my comments.
>If I can't get Roberto to agree to Boh-Sil, I'll fall back to Lvn S War.
Fine, but good luck with Roberto. To hear him talk, all he wants is to lie
down and die. He's lost heart. I may be wrong, and, to give him credit,
this may merely be a ploy. He tells me that he has no intention of
defending against France and that he will next disband Rome. I'm fairly
confident that he means it. His point is that I must attack France
immediately to keep him from becoming huge. I have no idea, under these
circumstances, whether Italy will cooperate with you. It can't hurt to ask
him.
You and I both know that I was not supposed to be in StP. I did think that
Germany might try StP->Bothnia, but only if accompanied by Livonia->StP.
I've looked at us trying Livonia->StP->Norway to get you into StP anyway,
and surely you have too. It's ugly. For starters, it guarantees the loss
of Warsaw.
I think Germany has three basic options, depending on whether Bothnia cuts
Livonia, or heads for StP, or participates in a double-attack on Sweden.
In classic game theory language, the double-attack on Sweden (plus a
double-attack on Warsaw) is a dominant strategy. That is, it fares as well
or better for Germany no matter what we do than the other two options. But
will Fredd reach the same conclusion? I think he may.
Here's a question. Why Swe supp Nth-Den? I know that was our original
plan, but that was when we were expecting you to get StP. I am willing
instead to substitute Nth supp Swe->Den. That either saves Sweden directly
or compensates you with Denmark.
My other question. Why Bel->Hol? First, that move is likely to fail,
because Holland will never get to Kiel. Also, I suspect that the Prince is
moving Bur supp Bel->Ruhr, so that he can take Munich next turn. And
Bel->Ruhr should succeed.
We do seem to agree that the best strategy is to do maximum damage to Germany.
Ivy
>>The German move to Silesia suggests that Fredd is determined
>>to keep me from building, and it looks like he'll succeed. A
>>supported attack on War, and/or GoB-StP/SC will negate any
>>attempt by the Russian 2nd Guards Army to control St.
>>Petersburg, and any action on Denmark will result in a bounce,
>>or an exchange of Centers. I have concluded, therefore, that for
>>the good of the alliance, I should once again set aside any attempt
>>to achieve Russian growth, and focus on causing maximum damage
>>to the German economy. So, my suggestions are:
>>
>>England:
>>
>>F StP/NC HOLD
>>A Hol -> Kiel
>>F Nth -> Den
>>F ECh -> Nth
>>
>>France:
>>A Bel -> Hol
>>A Bur S A Kiel -> Mun
>>
>>Russia:
>>F Swe S F Nth -> Den
>>A Lvn -> Pru
>>A War S A Lvn -> Pru
Message from Russia to England
Hello Ivy,
> It's good to hear from you!
It's been busy for reasons I can't discuss without breaking gunboat,
and I wanted to get a sense from IT of their intentions before
formulating a plan of my own. Sorry that I didn't write earlier.
> >If Roberto [won't order] Boh-Sil, I'll fall back to Lvn S War.
>
> Fine, but good luck with Roberto. It can't hurt to ask him.
That's what I figured.
> I've looked at us trying Livonia->StP->Norway to get you into StP
> It's ugly. For starters, it guarantees the loss of Warsaw.
Yeah, I considered Lvn-StP, StP-Bar to let Swe retreat to Nwy if
dislodged, but it didn't seem productive.
> [Germany can have] Bothnia cut Livonia, or head for StP, or
> participate in a double-attack on Sweden.
Ick, I hadn't considered GoB-Lvn.
> the double-attack on Sweden (plus a double-attack on Warsaw) is
> a dominant strategy. But will Fredd reach the same conclusion?
> I think he may.
It's what I came up with.
> Why Swe supp Nth-Den? I am willing instead to substitute
> Nth supp Swe->Den. That either saves Sweden directly
> or compensates you with Denmark.
*Nick thinks for a moment.* My way, I retreat to Nwy if I lose
Swe, which opens the possibility of supporting action in StP, but
if Swe-Den works, Germany would take Swe with GoB, eliminating
the German threat to StP, so I guess that is superior. Let's go with
Nth S Swe-Den.
> My other question. Why Bel->Hol? First, that move is likely to
> fail, because Holland will never get to Kiel.
I'm assuming Fredd may defend Mun with Kie-Mun, Tyl-Mun,
so Bur S Kie-Mun lets Hol-Kie work. That or Boh S Bur-Mun
strike me as the only options for taking a German Home Center
this year.
> I suspect that the Prince is moving Bur supp Bel->Ruhr, so that
> he can take Munich next turn. And Bel->Ruhr should succeed.
Yes, I just offered my moves as a suggestion, I don't really
supect France to agree to them.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
I am in a hurry and will be gone all day.
>> My other question. Why Bel->Hol? First, that move is likely to
>> fail, because Holland will never get to Kiel.
It just occurred to me in the middle of the night that Germany still owns
Holland and will keep it if I actually get to Kiel.
More tomorrow. Looks like we are easily reaching agreement.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> >> My other question. Why Bel->Hol? First, that move is likely to
> >> fail, because Holland will never get to Kiel.
>
> It just occurred to me in the middle of the night that Germany still owns
> Holland and will keep it if I actually get to Kiel.
Oh yeah, that too! 8-) Also, assuming Hol-Kie works, it gives EF both
two builds.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> Let's go with Nth S Swe-Den.
Done. I will enter my moves now.
I will also tell France that I am indifferent to his choice between
Bel->Hol and Bel->Ruhr.
Germany will lose two units this year -- possibly three, but I doubt
it. After next year he will be a non-entity.
Let's you and I keep an eye on France's progress, especially if Italy
really does destroy the unit in Rome.
Ivy
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
I am sorry that I did not get back to you. I have been
swamped. England and I made the best choice we could
in very limited time. I hope that he will not stab me :-)
Helping you get a center is a priority.
I truly want you viable!
--Xavier
England: Fleet English Channel HOLD
England: Army Holland → Kiel (*bounce*)
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Russian Fleet Sweden → Denmark
England: Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) HOLD
France: Army Belgium → Ruhr
France: Army Burgundy → Munich (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon → Tuscany
France: Fleet North Africa → Western Mediterranean
France: Fleet Tunis SUPPORT Fleet Western Mediterranean → Tyrrhenian Sea
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Tyrrhenian Sea
Germany: Fleet Denmark → North Sea (*bounce, dislodged*)
Germany: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Livonia (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel → Denmark (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Prussia → Warsaw
Germany: Army Silesia SUPPORT Army Prussia → Warsaw
Germany: Army Tyrolia → Munich (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast) (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Bohemia → Galicia
Italy: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Serbia → Rumania (*cut*)
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast)
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Eastern Mediterranean
Italy: Fleet Rome → Naples
Italy: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste
Italy: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Bohemia → Galicia
Russia: Army Livonia SUPPORT Army Warsaw (*cut*)
Russia: Fleet Sweden → Denmark
Russia: Army Warsaw SUPPORT Turkish Army Galicia (*void, dislodged*)
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Serbia (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Galicia → Budapest (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce*)
Turkey: Fleet Smyrna → Aegean Sea (*bounce*)
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