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Message from Germany to Russia
Nik:
> Russia: Removes the fleet in Sevastopol.
You might not believe it but I like this move. It makes me look far
less imposing. All the press that I've been receiving has had a
hysterical tone to it. Mainly because everyone thought that you'd
remove the fleet up north, and then I could walk into STP. Now there's
less chance that they'll gang up on me.
I would ask though, can you tell me who pushed this disband?
Fredd
Message from Russia to Germany
Fredd,
> > Russia: Removes the fleet in Sevastopol.
>
> You might not believe it but I like this move.
Keeping F GoB is hardly anti-German.
> I would ask though, can you tell me who pushed this disband?
Ali, obviously. Boar favored F GoB, surprisingly. Austria lobbied for
A Gal. (Like that was gonna happen!) I haven't heard from Ivy recently,
and Roberto and I discussed other things. Can we agree on Bal-Pru,
Swe-Bal, GoB-Lvn, Ber-Sil this Spring?
Nick.
Message from Germany to Russia
> Can we agree on Bal-Pru,
> Swe-Bal, GoB-Lvn, Ber-Sil this Spring?
This is not to put you off. I will certainly consider all of these
moves. It's just late now, and I want to get a message back.
BER-SIL certainly looks like a go.
I'd say that parking a fleet in PRU is a no go. In saying that I'm
thinking of England more than you. Putting a fleet where it can't be
used for a year could tempt him to return.
On the other hand I'd like to get off of SWE so England isn't threatened
in NWY.
What about BOH and GAL? Any ideas there?
Last but not least, why would Ali want you to disband the fleet in the
Black Sea. I thought that you two were allies. If you're not then AI
will roll over you. If you are, I think it would be advantageous to
have a fleet in the Black Sea.
Fredd
Message from Russia to Germany
Fredd,
> > Can we agree on Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, GoB-Lvn, Ber-Sil?
>
> This is not to put you off. I will certainly consider all of these
> moves. It's just late now, and I want to get a message back.
>
> BER-SIL certainly looks like a go.
>
> I'd say that parking a fleet in PRU is a no go. In saying that I'm
> thinking of England more than you. Putting a fleet where it can't
> be used for a year could tempt him to return.
Sorry, don't buy it. This Spring Ivy HAS to order Iri S Nwg-NAO,
Lon S Eng, to attack MAO this Fall, and you yourself claimed that he
wants you out of Swe, and not in a position to grow this year. That
almost forces Swe-Bal, Bal-Pru. Additionally, IF we're cooperating
against Austria, and your ordering Ber-Sil, you don't want the
Austrian Army in War retreating to Pru when dislodged.
> On the other hand I'd like to get off of SWE so England isn't
> threatened in NWY.
Fin, GoB, and Lvn all threaten me, and threaten England indirectly.
That leaves Swe-Bal, and Bal-Pru, or Bal-Ber. Bal-Pru makes much
more sense from an anti-Austrian point of view.
> What about BOH and GAL? Any ideas there?
Several, but we need to come to an agreement on the Fleets, first,
I think.
> Last but not least, why would Ali want you to disband the fleet in the
> Black Sea. I thought that you two were allies. If you're not then AI
> will roll over you. If you are, I think it would be advantageous to
> have a fleet in the Black Sea.
You'd think so, and I'd think so, but Ali is the Turk, and Turks have
this ingrained snap response that Russia's first disband HAS to be F Sev,
for the Juggernaut to work. Also, I HAD to disband something, and the
Armies were out for obvious reasons, so I had to choose a Fleet, and if
I disbanded F GoB the ONLY ways to keep you from taking StP in the
Fall were to ask you to be nice, or to move Mos-StP and risk War-Mos.
Had I disbanded GoB, you COULD have ordered Swe-GoB, Bal-Lvn,
Ber-Pru, Boh-Sil, take StP, and quite possibly, War. This MIGHT have
caused an EF vs. G realignment, but I'd still be on my way to elimination,
so I didn't want to tempt you.
Let me know your thoughts on the Northern Fleets, when you get
time, and anything that you hear from around the world. Prince Boar
was lobbying hard for FAIR vs. GET, but Austria refused to retreat to
Sil, and Italy never commented on it publicly, so I think you don't
have anything to worry about, as long as you don't grow this year.
Nick.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
It's been two and one half days since we've exchanged letters, we're
slipping! 8-) I've asked Fredd to order Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, to keep
Austria from retreating to Pru, and to minimize the danger of Germany
attempting a break-away building spree. He claims that moving Bal-Pru
will encourage you to order Nwg-Nwy, Lon-Nth and attack him. (Yes,
that makes as little sense to me, as it does to you.) France remains
worried, Austria remains recalcitrant, and Italy remains almost as smooth
as you are. Hopefully, Turkey will take my disband as a sign of good
faith, and cover Bul with His Fleet, rather than covering Sev. How does
the world look from the misty isle?
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> It's been two and one half days since we've exchanged letters, we're
>slipping! 8-)
I have had a semblance of a normal life these past several days. This is
probably a bad sign indicating that I have been neglecting my diplomacy.
>I've asked Fredd to order Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, to keep
>Austria from retreating to Pru, and to minimize the danger of Germany
>attempting a break-away building spree. He claims that moving Bal-Pru
>will encourage you to order Nwg-Nwy, Lon-Nth and attack him. (Yes,
>that makes as little sense to me, as it does to you.)
Perhaps he is more afraid of Bothnia->Sweden, but doesn't want to say so.
I am confident that Germany is ready for some degree of cooperation with
you, because he sees the greater danger in Austria. Austria's setback in
the south was only temporary and he could grow soon, possibly rapidly.
Anyway, Germany wants you to recover Warsaw, and it looks like you have a
great shot at that.
Germany is feeling pretty confident these days, and he probably will expect
something in return for German/Russian cooperation. He may want help
against Vienna, or he may want you to pull your fleet away from Sweden. I
should be able to influence him a little in this matter, but something
tells me that he will be reluctant to vacate Sewden or Baltic when you can
jump into the resulting void.
>How does the world look from the misty isle?
Speaking selfishly, I just want the rest of the world to freeze in place
(that includes Germany) while I advance against France. I expect to be in
the Mid-Atl by fall 1903, but still cannot see any moves that guarantee me
a build by 1904. This is tough.
Ivy
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
I understand your reasoning. I am just anxious to get
some pressure on Engand before I am dead.
I think that Italy would be open to an RIFT alliance. In
the end, I will be a secondary participant no matter what
choice is made in the south. I suspect it will be IRA or
IRT, probably the latter. I just want to join so I can
encourage and remind you all that I am keeping EG from
getting to large and without some help, they will be
montrous.
If I feel that I am left to the wolves, I might just give
up and roll over.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> > I've asked Fredd to order Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, to
> > keep Austria from retreating to Pru,
>Perhaps he is more afraid of Bothnia->Sweden
Whoops, I forgot to mention that GoB-Lvn was
part of the package. At three Centres, with a
hostile Austria occupying Warsaw, I can't afford
to order GoB-Swe at this point, even if I knew
the move would succeed.
>He may want help against Vienna, or he may want you to pull your fleet away
>from Sweden.
I don't see that I can afford to support any
German gains before I get to five Centres, but
GoB-Lvn, Swe-Bal, Bal-Pru secures both Germany's and
Russia's and your northern border, in my opinion
Nick.
Message from Germany to Russia
Nick.
Just a minute before I head off to work. (Where I don't get email from
this game)
> Prince Boar
> was lobbying hard for FAIR vs. GET, but Austria refused to retreat to
> Sil, and Italy never commented on it publicly, so I think you don't
> have anything to worry about, as long as you don't grow this year.
This is exactly why I don't want to grow this year. So STP would have
been safe (This year) even if you had disbanded GOB.
Yes that infers that it wouldn't have been safe next year. But I expect
that I need'nt blow smoke and say something that everyone knows that I
would consider. But a year is a year in this game, and you just knew
know. My point being that STP is and was safe (from me) this fall.
I'll also have to stop talking without looking at the board. I had
overlooked Austria retreating to PRU. That's a good point. For my
next press I'll have a complete strategy laid out.
Fredd
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> >Perhaps he is more afraid of Bothnia->Sweden
>but
>GoB-Lvn, Swe-Bal, Bal-Pru secures both Germany's and
>Russia's and your northern border, in my opinion
Yes, indeed.
Getting Germany to trust you will be the trick then. He probably fears
being duped and that you will move GoB->Swe in the spring. And surely he
will want assurances that you will not be building a second northern unit
in StP at the end of the year. Perhaps you might consider the reassuring
GoB->StP in the spring. I don't see any harm in Austria retreating Warsaw
to Livonia or Prussia. An Austria army in one of those positions could be
easily crushed.
Anyway, if I were Russia, my goal this year would be to regain Warsaw while
diploming with all my neighbors. Don't make any more enemies than you
already have.
Good luck.
Ivy
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
Ok, what are you thinking for the spring move? I think we should come up
with a plan that works if Italy really switches sides, but that also
protects us if he doesn't.
What is your relationship with Germany? He seems disposed anti-Austrian,
and he seems pretty unhappy with Italy's unit in Tyrolia. If he can be
convinced to hit Vienna, at least to cut support, it would be a great help.
The obvious combination to me is Gre-Ser, Boh-Vie, Rum S Gal-Bud. This gets
you Bud unless he defends with Ser-Rum, but that seems unlikely to me. If
he orders that, it would likely be with support from Bud, which could be
cut, and even if Ser goes to Rum it gains him nothing due to Gre-Ser. The
biggest risk here is Ser S Aeg-Gre, but if Italy is on board then I'll
regain Smy and can afford to lose Gre.
The other option is to focus on getting you into Warsaw, with Boh-Vie,
Rum-Bud, Gre-Ser, Mos S Gal-War. This has the same risks, namely Bud S
Ser-Rum (in which case Gre moves to Ser), and Ser S Aeg-Gre (which I can't
do anything about anyway). The drawback is that it moves your army away
from Austria, and if Austria loses out this year he may well disband A
Warsaw anyway, allowing you to pick it up uncontested in the following year.
There are other options of course, such as Gal S Boh-Vie. However, this
isn't really along the lines of Italy's proposed FIRT vs. EGA. You could
perhaps entice Germany by promising support for Boh-Vie in the fall if you
gain Bud. Also, Germany may have other plans for Boh, such as dislodging
Tyr. I'm writing Germany today to inquire of his plans; let's touch base
should either of us hear from him, yes?
Anyway, as you suggested I'm presenting a united front to Italy. I will be
writing joint presses to try and get ITR vs. A off the ground. However, I'm
not going to really believe it until I see it.
Please write at your earliest convenience. I'm eager to hear your thoughts
on the above.
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
I'll respond to your letter when I get the chance,
but I suspect that Italy is sincere. I don't know how
closely you coordinated with Austria before S1902M, but
he hasn't moved effectively, and has not negotiated
well, either, so I suspect that Italy is frustrated
with him. Additionally, if he wanted to continue to
attack you, why lie about it? He could have just
build A Nap, had Austria support Smy and Convoyed to
Syr this Spring. He doesn't strike me as the sort
who would lie unnecessisarily. Your mileage may vary,
of course, but I don't see what he'd gain by lieing
to us at this point.
In Haste,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Any word from Austria about this Spring? Are you
committed to RIFT vs. AGE (for this year, anyway 8-)?
Any comments on your build from anyone? Germany and I
are discussing shifting our Fleets south to prevent A War
from retreating northward when I repatriate the Poles, but
he hasn't agreed to anything, yet. Please write when you
can.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> I'll respond to your letter when I get the chance,
> but I suspect that Italy is sincere. I don't know how
> closely you coordinated with Austria before S1902M, but
> he hasn't moved effectively, and has not negotiated
> well, either, so I suspect that Italy is frustrated
> with him. Additionally, if he wanted to continue to
> attack you, why lie about it? He could have just
> build A Nap, had Austria support Smy and Convoyed to
> Syr this Spring. He doesn't strike me as the sort
> who would lie unnecessisarily. Your mileage may vary,
> of course, but I don't see what he'd gain by lieing
> to us at this point.
I agree that Italy's press seems sincere, but then again it seemed pretty
sincere when he told me he would not move his fleets my way, and that he was
attacking Austria and Greece. So, I will contiue to be cautious regarding
Italy until I've seen his cards on the table.
As for his possible advantage, I cannot rule out the possibility that it is
simply a ploy to try to learn our moves. Austria continues to write me in
an effort to get me to attack Sev and to learn what it is I'm planning.
Certifiable bullshit, all of it (or so it appears), and it hasn't been
working. Perhaps the Italian is now trying his hand. Austria's in a tough
spot, and his best hope may be to take the guesswork out of it. So, I'm
strongly opposed to revealing any more to Italy than is absolutely
necessary, for this turn at least.
If Italy does turn out to be on the level, then it creates some strange
bedfellows. If we assume he wants FIRT vs. EGA, then that means you
attacking Germany. However, Germany at least appears to be a good candiate
to cooperate with you against Austria. If Italy is lying, then we should
embrace Germany with both arms if he'll help against Austria. If Italy's on
the level, though, then the German question could turn into a bit of a
tight-rope that must be walked with great care.
Write when you get a chance,
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
My Dear Ali,
>what are you thinking for the spring move?
I see two possibilities, play cautious, wait to
make sure Italy is with us, and take War in the Fall,
or assume that Roberto will order Tyl-Tri, Smy-Alb,
and we try to take Ser, Bud, War, and perhaps even Vie.
>What is your relationship with Germany?
He's worried about IA at the moment, but if
Italy attacks Austria, I expect that he will rapidly
become interested in War and StP, himself.
>If he can be convinced to hit Vienna, at least to
>cut support, it would be a great help.
If he agrees to the Fleet moves I've suggested,
I'll propose that he hit Vie, and let you know what
he says.
>There are other options, such as Gal S Boh-Vie.
I see no reason to support Germany into a Center
before I'm up to six Units myself, and at that point,
I won't have to. 8-)
>I will try to get ITR vs. A off the ground. However, I'm not going to
>really believe it until I see it.
As I said in my previous letter, I don't see that
Italy gains anything by lying to us about RIFT vs. AGE,
but we'll see for sure this Spring.
In Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> I see two possibilities, play cautious, wait to
> make sure Italy is with us, and take War in the Fall,
> or assume that Roberto will order Tyl-Tri, Smy-Alb,
> and we try to take Ser, Bud, War, and perhaps even Vie.
>
> >What is your relationship with Germany?
>
> He's worried about IA at the moment, but if
> Italy attacks Austria, I expect that he will rapidly
> become interested in War and StP, himself.
You're probably right. I wouldn't bet the farm on Tyr-Tri yet, though.
Germany seems annoyed at Tyr, and apparently Italy has refused to move it.
If Italy wants to help France, he may use it to support Bur-Mun. Italy has
certainly not promised me he'll use Tyr to attack Austria; it might be a
good idea to press him on the issue a bit. I myself have asked pointedly
what he intends for Tyr.
> >If he can be convinced to hit Vienna, at least to
> >cut support, it would be a great help.
>
> If he agrees to the Fleet moves I've suggested,
> I'll propose that he hit Vie, and let you know what
> he says.
Likewise, I've written him to inquire about it. Let's compare notes when we
hear from him.
> >There are other options, such as Gal S Boh-Vie.
>
> I see no reason to support Germany into a Center
> before I'm up to six Units myself, and at that point,
> I won't have to. 8-)
Agreed.
It seems we don't have much to go on until we've heard more from Italy and
Germany. I will write as soon as anything develops. The deadline is
tomorrow, so I hope we can keep up the dialoge as much as possible and come
up with the best plan we can.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
> Austria continues to write me in an effort to get
> me to attack Sev and to learn what it is I'm planning.
> Certifiable bullshit, all of it (or so it appears),
Yes, I've been getting similar letters about the
German threat. My response has been, 'Move War-Sil,
and we'll talk.'
> Perhaps the Italian is now trying his hand.
> I'm strongly opposed to revealing any more to Italy
> than is absolutely necessary, for this turn at least.
Oh, definitely! Tyl-Tri, Smy-Alb, Nap-TyS is
all Italy need to know about RIFT vs. AGE this Spring.
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
>I think that Italy would be open to an RIFT alliance.
It does seem that way, but I believe that he is
almost as smooth as Ivy.
>I can encourage and remind you all that I am keeping
>EG from getting to large and without some help, they
>will be montrous.
I am well aware of Germany's potential, especially
since I represent so much of his potential, now.
>If I feel that I am left to the wolves, I might just give up and roll over.
The only logical move for F Nap is to TyS and
then WMed, which should protect Iberia and Marseilles.
We might be able to get you into Mun this Fall, which
would let you protect Brest next year, as well. It's
going to be a near thing for both of us, but things
could turn around for us this year.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
Gentlemen,
I have not yet heard from Austria so I do not know his plans to date. I've
started the ball rolling by asking him if he wants/needs support into
Greece. Typically, I hear from Austria on the day of the deadline. I think
he uses the first day to figure out what he wants to do and then the second
day to talk me into doing what he wants me to do.
It may surprise you to know that, other than the fleet orders, I have not
known what Austria's orders were going to be. He hasn't in the past shared
them with me. I've made some guesses/assumptions but I haven't been any
more correct than the two of you.
I suspect, with the new board position, I will have a good idea of the AEG
and VIE orders and possibly SER but I highly doubt I will know any more than
you regarding WAR/BUD.
I will share what I know when I have more information and that should help
solidify our moves this spring.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Germany
Fredd,
> > I think you don't have anything to worry about
> > as long as you don't grow this year.
>This is exactly why I don't want to grow this year. So STP would have
>been safe (This year) even if you
>had disbanded GOB. Yes that infers that it would
>not have been safe next year.
There was the danger that you would try for
StP AND War, and while that move would likely have
garnered you more attention than you wanted, it
would also have definitely crushed my hopes of
survival. So, that concern, combined with my
desire to prevent War from retreating to Lvn, and
Turkey's desire that I disband F Sev all influenced
my decision.
>I had overlooked Austria retreating to PRU.
That's why I like GoB-Lvn, Bal-Pru, and Swe-Bal
should make England happy, it increases everyone's
security in the north.
Nick.
Message from Russia to Turkey
>Message from Turkey to Russia in 'titleist':
>
>I agree that Italy's press seems sincere, but then again it seemed pretty
>sincere when he told me he
>would not move his fleets my way, and that he was
>attacking Austria and Greece.
My belief in Italy's sincerity isn't based on
his press, though. Telling you that you were safe
to attack Russia and build Armies set you up for
the Lepanto. Lying to us at this point, doesn't
set us up for anything that I can see, though,
unless he leaks our plans to Austria, and he can't
do that since we're not going to tell him our plans.
>Germany at least appears to be a good candiate
>to cooperate with you against Austria.
Yes, but even Fredd admits that that is a very
short-term deal. He'll help me cripple Austria this
year, while England gains position against France,
then he'll attack StP and War.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
My moves are fairly straightforward, so I have given more thought to your
area of the board.
Having looked at the position more carefully, I think it is hopeless to
expect Germany to move Swe->Bal this turn. He is in a comfortable position
where he has no need to take risks. Although I doubt that he thinks you
might cross him with Bot->Swe, why should he take the chance? If you
succeeded with Bot->Swe it would be a major disaster for Germany. He's
just not going to let that happen while you are adjacent to Sweden.
He also worries that you will build in StP. I don't know what you can do
to reassure him that you won't.
Selfishly, I am hoping that you can play off Germany and Austria against
each other and make it difficult for either of them to break away from the
pack. The worst scenerio would be for you to end up with both Germany and
Austria as enemies. Should somehow Germany find a new ally in Austria,
then (1) you are dead and (2) Germany has less use for me.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Germany to Russia
Nick:
Strangely enough we find ourselves back in the same boat again.
Remember back before the first move, when you wanted Sweden but wouldn't
commit to putting that build in STP? (You, of course, couldn't commit
because of the Juggernaut)
Now we are in a similar position. You would like my help in retaking
WAR or VIE. I don't have much trouble with that, UNLESS you use that
build to put an army in STP. If we can agree that you won't build an
army in STP then we should plan an attack.
Let's assume that A and I are working hand in glove. There are five
units that we have to cover. TYR, VIE, BUD, WAR, and SER. We have BOH,
BER, MUN (sort of), GAL, MOS and RUM
It sounds to me that from the moves that you suggest you want to put GAL
into WAR with help from MOS. Which also makes WAR retreat to UKR.
(Unless RUM goes there. Highly unlikely)
Then in the fall it'll be a guess between you and Austria. You try to
leave something open and keep all your pieces, while he tries to get one
back. And he might have a unit in GAL to help.
Not the greatest plan in the world.
I do like the BER-SIL, BAL-PRU, and BOT-LVN part of the plan. Those are
my tentative orders right now.
What about: RUM S GAL- BUD and BOH - VIE.
Or BOH s GAL - VIE and MUN - TYR
What is Turkey willing to do? I'd like to attack in the south this
turn, then support MOS - WAR in the fall (with SIL)
Fredd
Message from France to all
Spring 1903 Symposium on Philosophy, Europe and
Everything.
- by Prince Xavier Boar
[This is Stuart Scott here. Trey Wingo lost this job
because of his relationship to Ivy Wingo. It is not wise
to be related to someone who betrays the Dauphin. He got
the Axe, had a date with Mr. Guillotine, you get the
picture. After carefully consulting my family tree, and
knowing that I am not related to any of the leaders in
Europe, I accepted this job. I could not resists after
reading all Trey's postcards describing the beautiful
babes.]
[Well it is time to play the uncensored parts of Prince
Boar's speech and add my witty commentary.]
My dear French people, as you all know, things have not
gone well for France. We are under attack from both our
Northern and Eastern Borders. For now the South appears
to be safe, but the Italians may be mustering for war as
well. Our sources tell us of their expanding navy. But
I implore you to keep your hope. The Dauphin and I will
do all that we can to make certain that our betrayers do
not benefit from their treachery.
We shall Protect in Paris, and Battle in Burgundy. We
will Punish in Picardy and berate in Brest. We shall
Garrison in Gascony, Beset in Belgium, Ravage in Ruhr,
Malign in Munich, and Maul in Marseilles. We will
Persecute in Portugal and Skirmish in Spain. Our Navies
will Maraude in the Mid-Atlantic Ocean, Nip at the North
Atlantic Ocean, Invade the Irish Sea, and Engage in the
English Channel. Our people shall never give up!
[Quite the big talker and a guy who knows how to use a
Thesaurus. Perhaps he can toss it at Frederick when he
arrives in Paris at the head of his armies. Next he gets
into some private French strategy, if you call looking up
nasty words that start with the letter 'I' a strategy. I
assure you that no one discussed the color of the
Dauphin's underwear this time. But the rumor has it that
the Dauphin sent a pair of Hot Pink ones with Bats and
Mediterranean Blue with Speckled Eggs to Diploman and Boy
Gambit respectively.]
Philosophy
A neighbor has suggested that France is being attacked
because we were too likeable. That we should have
purposely been less likeable to not make ourselves a
target. The irony is that this neighbor is more likeable
than we are. But it is an interesting philosophy
nevertheless. It is a philosophy, however, that I must
reject. Instead I choose to follow the personal
philosophy of the great Marcus Aurelius. He is a man of
my own heart in that he was both a Caesar of Roman and a
wise stoic philosopher. To him, the wise man "will not
go against the divinity that is planted in his breast;
but rather he will preserve his deepest inner self in
tranquillity. He will, above all, preserve his own
autonomy and integrity, and not let anything alienate him
from himself". Words that I can live by. If I fail
France by being who I am, then I must apologize. But I
shall not fail myself by being myself.
[He may not fail himself, but we wonder if he is full of
himself. He is deluding himself that he is likeable. He
can't seem to convince a soul to do the simplest things.
Maybe we should get that Sport Center Advertisement team
over here to work on his image.]
[Well, thankfully that is all folk. Until next year.
Stuart]
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Having looked at the position more carefully, I think it is hopeless to
> expect Germany to move Swe->Bal this turn.
You could request/demand it to protect Nwy.
> He is in a comfortable position where he has no need to take risks.
F Swe-Nwy is a risk to you, and Bal-Pru, Swe HOLD risks
GoB-Bal, so Swe-Bal, Bal-Pru,GoB-Lvn makes sense for everyone.
Please endorse it to Fredd.
> Although I doubt that he thinks you might cross him with Bot->Swe,
> why should he take the chance?
To allow me to work effectively with him against Austria.
> He also worries that you will build in StP.
That's more of a worry for you, I expect, but Austria is my enemy, and
StP is a long way from Vie.
> Selfishly, I am hoping that you can play off Germany and Austria against
> each other and make it difficult for either of them to break away from the
> pack. The worst scenerio would be for you to end up with both Germany and
> Austria as enemies. Should somehow Germany find a new ally in Austria,
> then (1) you are dead and (2) Germany has less use for me.
Then encourage him to move as I've suggested. You know that I play an
honest game, and I don't see that GoB-Swe makes any more sense at this
point than StP-Nwy made in F1901M.
Your Friend,
Nicky.
Message from Russia to Germany
Fredd,
> Strangely enough we find ourselves back in the same boat again.
> Remember back before the first move, when you wanted Sweden
> but wouldn't commit to putting that build in STP?
You wanted me to build in StP??? Geeze, why didn't you say so?
> Now we are in a similar position. You would like my help in retaking
> WAR or VIE. I don't have much trouble with that, UNLESS you use that
> build to put an army in STP. If we can agree that you won't build an
> army in STP then we should plan an attack.
Austria is my enemy; I cannot afford to open up a second front at
this point. I need to shore up the South first.
> It sounds to me that from the moves that you suggest you want to put GAL
> into WAR with help from MOS. Which also makes WAR retreat to UKR.
> Then in the fall it'll be a guess between you and Austria. Not the
greatest
> plan in the world.
I've pretty much ruled out attacking War this Spring for just that
reason.
> I do like the BER-SIL, BAL-PRU, and BOT-LVN part of the plan. Those
> are my tentative orders right now.
What about Swe-Bal? (I know, you don't want StP this year, but it is my
capital, and my home, and I worry about it.)
> What about: RUM S GAL- BUD and BOH - VIE.
Ali and I have been toying with this idea, it seems likely.
> What is Turkey willing to do?
He owes me several, so I think I can count on his support for any plan
that stands a good chance of hurting AI.
> I'd like to attack in the south this turn, then support MOS - WAR in
>the fall (with SIL)
This seems like a workable plan, I'll contact Ali, and confirm with
you later this afternoon.
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy and Turkey
Gentlemen,
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
>
> I have not yet heard from Austria so I do not know his plans to date.
> It may surprise you to know that, other than the fleet orders, I have
> not known what Austria's orders were going to be. He hasn't in the
> past shared them with me.
That doesn't surprise me, actually. You might offer to coordinate
Tyl with Vie this Spring, though, and see if it generates any Army info.
(What do you plan to do with Tyl this Spring, anyway?)
> I suspect, with the new board position, I will have a good idea of the AEG
> and VIE orders and possibly SER but I highly doubt I will know any more
> than you regarding WAR/BUD.
Partial information is better than no information at all, and I thank
you in
advance for any help you can provide.
In Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Turkey
My Good Ali,
Germany has offered to order Boh-Vie, so that we can take Bud this
Spring. My inclination is to take it since we can't be as sure of his
support
if Italy attacks Austria as we hope he will. What do you think?
Nick
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
Thank you for your words of encouragement. It seems that
our roles are reversing. At the end of 1901 I was busy
trying to help you, but talking to Turkey and England. I
expect that your efforts were more important than mine,
but I am sure that I helped in some fashion. Now things
look more bleak for me and I hope you will help me
wherever you can. Perhaps soon I will need your help to
keep Italy from stabbing me. Time will tell.
I do agree with your keeping Fleet Bot. My arguments for
disbanding were purely selfish in nature. I wanted you
to try and cost England a center. But the F in Bot is
much better. It can defend St. Petes for this year.
Germany will not be able to take it until next year. And
you may be able to support St. Petes from Mos by that
time.
I am sure that you realize this, but in the Dauphin's
arrogance he insist that I send you my analysis. He says
that Germany must do the following:
Bal -> Bot s by Swe
If he does the opposite, you simply retreat to Fin and
then he must guess whether you will go for Swe or defend
St. Petes. Therefore your best bet is to either hold or
order Bot -> Bal just so you feel that you are
accomplishing something.
If Bal takes Bot as expected, you can retreat to St.
Petes. He then must support himself to Fin from Swe.
But your retreat to St. Pete gives you a chance to at
least try and talk him into taking Norway instead. I
guess that you could also do this from Finland, but he
would be more secure if you were in Bot.
But the advantage of your being in Finland is that you
could take a chance and hold in the fall. If Germany
dislodges you, then you can disband and build an army in
St. Petes. This allows you to threaten Norway. This is
probably the stronger choice. But you can wait for the
retreats to decide.
I do appreciate your signing your letter, "your friend".
I need all the friends I can get. I look forward to the
day when you can act on the statement and threaten
England for me.
As for Roberto. Yes he is probably just as slick as Ivy.
But he is not asking you to do anything that you would
not do anyway, side with Turkey against Austria.
Therefore you do not need to worry about him. It is
Turkey that must be nervous. :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
I just got a long note from Germany. It is very clear that he prefers an
alliance with Russia against Austria. He says that Austria is lobbying him
hard to help eliminate Russia.
>> He also worries that you will build in StP.
>
> That's more of a worry for you, I expect, but Austria is my enemy, and
>StP is a long way from Vie.
This has become the critical issue, the key to Russian intentions. It's
another reason why Germany is refusing to vacate Sweden. Sweden might be
needed to protect Norway, which is ultimately German territory. Germany
has asked and I have agreed to Lon-Nth-Nwy in case of war breaking out in
Scandinavia or a Russian build in StP. Let's hope it doesn't come to this.
I need that fleet in the south.
Thus, to the best of my knowledge, here is where matters stand. Germany
truly wants Russian cooperation. Germany fears a build in StP. Germany is
not moving Sweden this turn. Please don't accuse me of deception if am
wrong. Every move Germany has done something that I did not expect. He
makes life interesting.
>> Having looked at the position more carefully, I think it is hopeless to
>> expect Germany to move Swe->Bal this turn.
>
> You could request/demand it to protect Nwy.
Norway is not one of my worries. I cannot defend against a German stab and
French/German cooperation, so I don't even worry about it. I lobby Germany
hard for German/Russian cooperation, for I sure don't want German/Austrian
cooperation, but GR cooperation shouldn't hinge on Sweden holding. I know
that if I were Germany, I would never consider vacating Sweden this turn.
France is trying his best to extract himself from his position. That's to
be expected. Moscow ->StP now!? I have been told that he really asked
that. Is this true? Does he expect you to ruin your chances for Warsaw to
do him a tiny favor?
More interesting is the supposed French proposal to unite Austria, Italy,
Russia, and France against Germany, England, and Turkey. That is actually
feasible, so permit me to comment. Whatever you do, look out for Russia
first. Obvious, of course. That means getting Warsaw this year and
keeping options open.
Another thing. You have exactly one friend you can count on - Turkey. If
you throw him away you are left with no neighbor who owes you anything
except sugar-sweet words whose only purpose is to influence your next
moves.
Germany can be a short-term friend, but he will be a danger to you long-term.
France. France cares only about saving France. France will be intact for
a long, long time, so don't jeopardize your immediate future to make life
rosy for him. Let France sweat a little. He's a big boy.
Austria is still your biggest problem. He is 100% loyal to Italy and must
yield most of the south to Italy. What does that mean? That means that
Austria must have Russia, pure and simple. That's why he is in Warsaw.
England. I am trying to conquer France and it will take forever. Don't
you think the world owes me a lot of gratitude? 8-) I am trying to put a
bell on the cat. It will take me a long time to get anywhere and I want to
come out of this with some chance of advancing afterwards. If that happens
I am more than willing to spin the dice and reallign alliances. Certainly
I don't want a monster Germany any more than anyone else.
Well, I have blabbed enough. Yes, I am trying to influence you. 8-) As
long as we remain open and honest, it will be easier to cooperate in the
future.
Most cordially,
Ivy Wingo
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
The other possibility that I see is Ank S Bla-Con,
Gre S Con-Bul, Rum-Ser, which is a strong set of moves for
you. The problem I see with it is, assuming that Italy
orders Smy-Alb, and I think he will, then I doubt we can
count on German support in the Fall, which makes taking
War doubtful. Hopefully, I'll hear something from GIA this
morning to firm up my thoughts. I'll keep you informed,
and trust that you will do the same.
In Friendship, and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Austria and Italy
Have you made a decision regarding Sil and Boh? The
deadline approaches.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Germany to Russia
> > Strangely enough we find ourselves back in the same boat again.
> > Remember back before the first move, when you wanted Sweden
> > but wouldn't commit to putting that build in STP?
>
> You wanted me to build in StP??? Geeze, why didn't you say so?
>
Oops. I meant the opposite.
> What about Swe-Bal? (I know, you don't want StP this year,
> but it is my capital, and my home, and I worry about it.)
Ivy has asked me to stay in SWE this turn. In case of (the highly
unlikely) move of MOS-STP. This works better for me than moving south.
Fredd
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Underoos Diploman. What a nice gift from the Dauphin!
DM> Yes it was. I will wear mine tonight, after I take off my costume. I do
hope that France is not trying to buy us with this gift.
BG> Absolutely Diploman. We must remain impartial observers in our vigil to
bring the betrayers to justice!
DM> Speaking of which, the alliances stayed pretty steady this season.
BG> I agree. Next year could be more interesting though. Say, do you want to
go model our new undies?
DM> Sure, why not. Let's get out of here.
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
OK, I admit that asking you to go to St. Petes and then
Norway was obnoxious and selfish. I am sorry for being
both. I was hoping it was done in conjunction with an
alliance with Austria where you could retake your home
centers more easily.
But if you feel that I am being unreasonable and
obnoxious, please tell me so yourself. That way I can
apologize straight out. I prefer not hearing through
England, the obnoxious things that I may ask you.
Besides realizing that you are telling him my requests, I
must also assume that you are complaining about them.
Again, I apologize for my unreasonableness. I realize
that you have your problems too. You just have hope for
the future. Mine outlook is down and as I consider the
likely strength of your bond with England, they look
worse. :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
>Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>OK, I admit that asking you to go to St. Petes and then Norway was
>obnoxious and selfish.
I didn't consider it to be either. I recognized
it as a very pro-France move, but didn't really expect
you to take an anti-French position.
>I was hoping it was done in conjunction with an
>alliance with Austria where you could retake your home centers more easily.
I realized this as well, and had Austria retreated
to Sil as we suggested, I would have considered Mos-StP
more seriously.
>But if you feel that I am being unreasonable and
>obnoxious, please tell me so yourself.
Rest assured that I will, though it seems extremely
unlikely to you will be so rude.
>I prefer not hearing through England, the obnoxious
>things that I may ask you.
The fact that he characterized the request as
obnoxious has no relavance to my view of it.
>Besides realizing that you are telling him my requests, I must also assume
>that you are complaining about them.
Both conclusions would be erroneous. Just because
you and Ivy are now clearly at war, do you expect him
to stop trying to play with your mind? I'm trying to
get Germany to cooperate with me against Austria, and
he questioned my disband decision, asking whom had
requested that I keep F GoB, suggesting that it had
been you. I corrected this mistaken opinion, telling
him that you had been in favor of disbanding GoB and
moving Mos-StP, as part of FAIR vs. EG, but that I felt
I could not do that since I was still faced with a
hostile Austria. I made no value judgements regarding
the reasonableness of your proposal, and saw no reason
to do so, since your requests were made in the interest
of saving France, and working with me, both of which are
laudable goals, in my opinion.
Ivy's latest press to me makes it clear that Fredd
told him what I had said regarding your proposal, and
he asked me to confirm that you had, in fact done so.
I suspect therefore, that his letter to you was an
attempt to gain confirmation by another means, and sour
our relationship, at the same time. Please remember to
stop taking Ivy's letters at face value, and instead
consider what he hopes to gain from it, because gaining
advantage is ALWAYS his intention.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Italy to Austria and Russia
>
> Have you made a decision regarding Sil and Boh? The
> deadline approaches.
>
I can see a great advantage in coordinating an attack to potentially destroy
the Bohemian army or, at the very least, force it to retreat. The question
arises is, who moves and who supports? I can understand Russia not wanting
to move further from his home centers. I can understand Austria not wanting
to leave a home center vacate especially given the fact that Budapest can be
attacked. I'm a bit reluctant to make the move fearing Mun-Tyr thus leaving
Venice undefended.
Bottom line is, I believe, no decision has been reached but Tyrolia is
available to support an attack against Bohemia if either of you so choose to
make the move.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Austria and Italy
>Message from Italy to Austria and Russia in 'titleist':
>Tyrolia is available to support an attack against Bohemia
Galicia is available to support War-Sil, (or Vie-Boh,
I suppose, but War-Sil makes more sense, if only one of
these moves is going to be made). Given that I would not
be in Gal, if Austria had not occupied Warsaw, I will not
move foward until the Archduke leaves Warsaw, but once
that occurs, I will happily attack Germany.
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
I remain committed to RIFT, but see no harm in
encouraging Austria to attack Germany.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
I'm entering my order for Rum S Gal-Bud. Given that Germany is on board for
this combination, I don't think we should pass up the opportunity. Just the
fact of the three of us coordinating our efforts in this fashion should reap
political rewards, let alone getting you into Bud. I've also got Bla S Con,
Con S Ank-Smy. I think Aeg-Bul is unlikely, and Ser-Bul might also mean
Gre-Ser, so I think I'm safe leaving Bul open for a possible retreat; I
can't afford to see A Gre destroyed.
Germany's press to me was mainly to push the Gal-Bud combination, to inquire
if I trusted you not to turn on me, and whether I thought you would work
with him. I replied that I did (to both questions), but that you probably
feared German attack shortly thereafter. I implied that his helping you
back into Warsaw would go a long way to improve relations.
I asked France if Italy had approached him on an FIRT; he replied that he
would be glad to join any triple coming out of the south, and he asked me to
encourage you to hassle England. He dodged the question of whether or not
he's been in contact with Italy. It may be that he simply wants to keep his
relations with Italy secret, if they've cooked up an attack on Munich.
I'm really looking forward to hearing some Italian press today. I'll be
most interested in what he has to say. I sincerely hope your optimism about
Smy-Alb is well-founded.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> I remain committed to RIFT, but see no harm in
> encouraging Austria to attack Germany.
>
Same here. Agreed. Ditto.
Roberto
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
I apologize for jumping to the wrong conclusions. I did
say that I was assume those things. I was giving you a
chance to explain them, hoping that I was incorrect.
I knew full well that Ivy was trying to stir up trouble
between us. I was more concerned that there was already
trouble and wanted to try and deal with it directly. I
was falsly imaging your sending a letter to Ivy saying,
"can you believe the audacity of this guy, asking me to
chase after Norway when I need to focus on getting my
home centers back." If that was the case, I wanted to
find out and work it out. I did not imagine the path of
this information going through Germany to England. I did
not think that it would have been relevant. But I
understand your explanation. Thank you for clarifying
it.
I will endeavor to not jump to conclusion and ask before
I assume. I know the danger of assuming. I think that I
fit the bill this time. On your part, do be careful what
you tell Germany. It does go right to England.
For the record, I never replied to England's comments. I
only answered other trivial comments that we make because
he have nothing substantial to talk about.
Again, with apologies,
-- Prince Boar
Message from Italy to Russia
Just so you're aware, the next message (sent to both you and Turkey) was
being penned as our discussion surrounding Austria was taking place. The
context thus may appear a bit out of whack.
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
I've heard from Austria. He has suggested Ion-Alb with an attack on Greece
in the fall. As I thought, no mention of what his armies would do. I will
continue to press him for further information.
> (What do you plan to do with Tyl this Spring, anyway?)
If I knew, I'd tell you. :)
My problem with moving to Trieste in the spring is, there is a high
percentage that Austria would kick me out in the fall and nothing would be
gained. If I had an unbreakable support, I'd be more comfortable in making
the move in the spring. As far as I can tell, only the ADR quaifies which
means I wouldn't be able to convoy to ALB. Lots of options but I still
don't know which is best.
Turkey has offered to swap SMY for GRE and that's the approach I'm taking
right now. The difficult part is, if I make any moves that look like I'm in
cahoots with Turkey, Austria will be tipped-off and it would be virtually
impossible for me to "sneak" into Trieste in the fall which, of course,
means I should move in the spring and we've come full circle to the
paragraph above.
Is everybody's head spinning yet? :)
Do these moves make any sense:
gal-bud
gre-ser
rum s gal-bud
bla s rum
con-bul
ank-smy
smy-eas-ion-alb
tyr-tri
The hope would be that Budapest would be dislodged without a retreat option.
I'm not certain, but if that happened, I think all of Austria's units could
be attacked in the fall breaking any support he may have to re-capture what
he lost in the spring. There is a possibility that Greece would not have a
retreat if attacked but given Austria's concern about a retreat to Albania,
I tend to believe him when he suggested a fall attack.
I welcome your comments.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Ali asked me for my thoughts on everything, and this is exactly what I wrote.
Ivy
>Ali,
>
>Here is what know or at least believe.
>
>France is trying to orchestrate an FIAR alliance against EGT.
>
>Russia still dislikes Austria and is trying to get German help against
>Austria. Germany is worried about Austria and wants some cooperation with
>Russia, but the two of them, Germany and Russia, are having trouble
>agreeing what to do with the three northern fleets.
>
>Italy and Germany are having words over Tyrolia.
>
>Austria has been quiet.
>Italy has been cryptic.
>
>I have reminded Russia that he only has one person he can trust and that
>is Turkey. His destruction of the southern fleet instead of his northern
>fleet is a good indication of where he stood at the time. I pointed out
>that if he believes that IA are solid, then he would be crazy to betray
>you. AI would assign Turkish spoils to Italy and Austria would go after
>Russia. Why is Austria already in Warsaw, for example?
>
>In short, AI is still solid, so RT have to remain solid.
>
>My self interest in all of this? I think it is obvious. It will take me
>so long to get a single center from France that I don't want anyone, not
>Austria, not Italy, not Germany, to get up any head of steam while I am
>inching along.
>
>Yours,
>
>Ivy
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
>Germany must do the following:
>Bal -> Bot s by Swe
>If he does the opposite, you simply retreat to Fin
EG are concerned that RT will collapse before
they can break through your defenses, and England
does not want Germany to grow before he has gained
MAO, so I do not believe that Germany will move
toward StP this year. Indeed Fredd has offered his
asistance against Austria this year,(a balanced
East works in EG's favor), and it brings his Armies
East to be positioned to attack me when the time is
right.
>As for Roberto, yes he is probably just as slick as Ivy.
He faked Ali out as completely as Ivy fooled you,
and I suspect that he encouraged Austria's paranoia
toward me so that he would be in control of the East
in 1903, but we both need him.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
What do you think of Italy's press?
> gal-bud
> gre-ser
> rum s gal-bud
> bla s rum
> con-bul
> ank-smy
> smy-eas-ion-alb
> tyr-tri
Yet another vote for Rum S Gal-Bud. I have to admit his press was all I had
hoped for. However, with his proposed moves I'm not protected against Aeg S
Smy-Con, EMS-Smy. I also couldn't help but notice his suggestion of Bla S
Rum, which is clearly not needed since both Ser and Bud will be cut. I can
only assume Italy gave this combination some serious thought, and I find it
hard to believe he wouldn't have caught that.
So I'd rather stick with Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy, since I believe Austria
will attack Greece in the spring, not the fall. However I don't want to say
that overtly to Italy, since it implies that Bul will be left open.
Am I being too paranoid here? I welcome your thoughts.
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
>What do you think of Italy's press?
>
> > gal-bud
> > gre-ser
> > rum s gal-bud
> > bla s rum
> > con-bul
> > ank-smy
> > smy-eas-ion-alb
> > tyr-tri
>
>Yet another vote for Rum S Gal-Bud.
Not at all unreasonable.
>with his proposed moves I'm not protected against Aeg S Smy-Con, EMS-Smy.
>I also couldn't help but
>notice his suggestion of Bla S Rum, which is clearly not needed since both
>Ser and Bud will be cut. I can only assume Italy gave this combination
>some serious thought, and I find it hard to believe
>he wouldn't have caught that.
Hmmmm, well there is the, "focus on the attacking
Units, and then support with those behind the lines",
theory. Bla-Con is more reasonable, though.
>I'd rather stick with Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy,
>since I believe Austria will attack Greece in
>the spring, not the fall
The problem with the Spring attack on Gre is that
Aeg S Ser-Gre let's Gre retreat to Alb, and with
Con-Bul, you have a 3 Army attack on Gre, or Ser, or
2 Army attacks on Ser and Bud in the Fall. Ser S Aeg-Gre
is a little better, since it doesn't leave Ser open,
but the retreat to Alb would still cause him grief.
>Am I being too paranoid here? I welcome your thoughts.
A little too paranoid, perhaps. 8-) Everyone is
saying that Austria has been very quiet since builds,
so it seems unlikely that AI have concocted an
elaborate scheme to fool you. If I was Austria, my
inclination would be towards Vie S Bud, Bud S Ser,
War-Gal, Ser S Aeg-Bul/SC followed by an attack on
Gre or Rum in the Fall. If your willing to risk
Austria taking Bul, Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy, or
Bla-Con, Ank S Con-Smy is fine. Let's go with
Rum S Gal-Bud, though.
Nick.
Message from Russia to England and Germany
Gentlemen,
If we can agree to GoB-Lvn, Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, I will
agree to not build in St. Petersburg this Fall. Is this
acceptable to you both?
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Turkey to Italy and Russia
Gentlemen,
I am greatly encouraged by Italy's suggestion of Tyr-Tri, Smy-Alb, and I
concur in general with his proposed combination. My only reservation is
that if I move to Bul, and Gre is dislodged, then my army will be destroyed.
I had also planned to protect my home centers against the event of continued
AI attacks. So I cannot commit specifically to how Bla, Con and Ank will
move; but I do agree to order Gre-Ser, Rum S Gal-Bud.
Whatever happens, I'm confident that we'll be able to cut any Austrian
support against Trieste, or else possibly support the unit directly from Bud
if Russia's attack succeeds. I also agree to help Italy into Greece, in
return for his withdrawal from Smyrna. I am confident that with the three
of us working together, Austria can be destroyed quickly, and all three of
us will benefit.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Germany and Russia
Gentlemen,
I'm just writing to confirm the discussions I've had with each of you. I
have ordered Gre-Ser, Rum S Gal-Bud. I am counting on Gal-Bud, Boh-Vie, as
per our conversations. The only way this can be defeated is with Ser-Rum,
which I'm not expecting. Once Russia is in Bud, then I see no reason why
Bud S Boh-Vie wouldn't work in the fall.
Please write at once if anything has changed.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
Your assesment seems pretty sound. I agree, it's looking more and more like
Italy will come through. Thank you for putting up with my paranoia (which I
haven't entirely lost, yet).
I do think Austria's nervous; his latest press to me sounded much less
cocky, and I think his nerves are getting frayed. In any case, it's looking
pretty good for a quick take-down of Austria. With so many people talking
about Gre-Ser, Rum S Gal-Bud, though, I guess it's possible Austria might
catch wind of it and order Ser-Rum to cut support. But it seems unlikely.
I'm still not sure what I'll do in Turkey/Bulgaria, but it will either be
Con-Bul, Ank S Bla-Con or Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy. Hopefully you'll be in
Bud this turn, and the tide will truly have turned.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
I am forever getting the Scandinavia area wrong, so I
hope that I am wrong yet again. I still suggest that you
at least hold in Bot. If you retreat to St. Petes,
Germany could take both Fin and Bot and then have a shot
at St. Petes in the fall. Be careful.
Well, my FIRT alliance is doing very much for me. You
all want to help Germany, that does me no good :-) If
you are going to go that route, make sure to get him a
build this year. The larger the Germany, the more
nervous the England.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Germany and Russia
Nick and Fred,
> If we can agree to GoB-Lvn, Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, I will
>agree to not build in St. Petersburg this Fall. Is this
>acceptable to you both?
I cannot in good conscience recommend that Sweden be vacated while a
Russian fleet is in Bothnia, at least not at this early stage of the
German/Russian relationship. I say this because, I don't think I would
want to move Sweden in the spring if I were Germany. Bothnia threatens
Sweden but Sweden does not threaten anything that belongs to Russia.
If the two of you want to consider Swe holds, Bal-Pru, GoB-Lvn, I see that
as a plausible compromise. After all it is the occupation of Prussia and
Livonia that should matter most in an anti-Austria campaign.
Why does Sweden have to be in Baltic? It is no farther from StP in the
Baltic than it is in Sweden?
Just my two cents.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England and Germany
Gentlemen,
I Wrote > >
> > If we can agree to GoB-Lvn, Bal-Pru, Swe-Bal, I will agree to not
> > build in St. Petersburg this Fall. Is this acceptable to you both?
>
> I cannot in good conscience recommend that Sweden be vacated while
> a Russian fleet is in Bothnia, at least not at this early stage of the
> German/Russian relationship. Bothnia threatens Sweden but Sweden
> does not threaten anything that belongs to Russia.
Oh, come now, am I likely to trade German cooperation against
Austria, and StP, for Sweden? Do I really strike you as that much of
a fool? I'm offering to remove the potential threat to Swe, and agree
to not build in StP, in return German support in my attacks on Austria.
I know that Austria is lobbying Germany for cooperation against me,
why would I give Germany the least excuse to work with him?
> Why does Sweden have to be in Baltic? It is no farther from StP
> in the Baltic than it is in Sweden?
It increases the security of Norway, and opens the option for
Pru S Bal-Lvn, rebuild F Lvn as an Army, in the Fall.
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from England to Germany and Russia
Nick,
> Oh, come now, am I likely to trade German cooperation against
>Austria, and StP, for Sweden? Do I really strike you as that much of
>a fool?
I think you and I have met before in a pre-existence. Only a guess. 8-)
It may be tough going at times, but I know we can work together.
As for the issue at hand, I now leave it to the two of you. Please don't
let small differences ruin the big picture.
I soon have to go out until late this evening.
Good luck.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
> Message from England to Germany and Russia in 'titleist':
Ivy,
> > Oh, come now, am I likely to trade German cooperation against
> > Austria, and StP, for Sweden? Do I really strike you as that much
> > of a fool?
> I think you and I have met before in a pre-existence. Only a guess. 8-)
Given that we theoretically played with 21 for the 50 players during
the first two rounds, and each of us played with one or two of the other
finalists in our semifinal game, I would suspect that the odds favor that.
(Karlis said on r.g.d that he had faced 6 of the 7 finalists in his games.)
I doubt that I'm the only player who uses righteous indignation to cover
my true intentions, though. 8-) (I've already speculated to Doug on
the identities of several players in my 1902 EoY, but we probably
shouldn't discuss this further between ourselves.)
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
After consulting with my crystal ball, otherwise known as the Archduke, here
are the optimum moves for the spring:
rum-ser
gre s rum-ser
ank-smy
con-bul
bla-rum
gal-war
mos s gal-war
I don't expect you to make those moves. Heck, nobody expects you to make
those moves. But they counter the following pretty dang well:
ser-rum
bud-rum
vie-gal
mos s vie-gal
aeg s eas-smy
With smy-alb and tyr-tri, Serbia has no retreat. Heck, Trieste wouldn't
even need a support in the fall.
My orders don't change but just a heads-up that Gal-Bud will not succeed.
It's up to the two of you whether you want to change your orders.
Life is Beautiful,
The Mole
Message from Turkey to Italy and Russia
Gentlemen,
I thank Roberto for his juicy intelligence. I am inclined to go along with
his suggestion. I have entered the moves he suggests, pending Russian
approval.
Ali
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
What do you think? The "austrian" orders Roberto speaks of sound pretty
legit to me. This could be a golden opportunity to take advantage of
foreknowledge about Austrian plans, an opportunity that will not arise
again. If the intelligence is genuine, that is.
I've received a press from France that seems to support Italy's proposals.
At least, he says he strongly believes Italy will attack Austria this turn.
He says he has indeed been lobbying Italy hard to change the 2-on-2 dynamic
in the south, for fear that it will simply lead to EG dominance in the
north. Anyway, it does seem to corroborate what Italy has been saying.
Anyway, at the moment I'm inclined to go along with Italy's suggestion. I
find this surprising, given my hesitation to date regarding Italian
intentions. In any case, I'm very eager to hear what you think of it.
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
> Your assesment seems pretty sound. I agree, it's looking more and more
like
> Italy will come through. Thank you for putting up with my paranoia (which
I
> haven't entirely lost, yet).
I've been wrong before (F1901, and F1902 spring to mind), so a
certain level of paranoia is appropriate. Roberto does seem more rational
the Ferdie does, though.
> I do think Austria's nervous; his latest press to me sounded much less
> cocky, and I think his nerves are getting frayed.
Well, at least he's writing to you. 8-) Italy and I have been trying to
get him to move out of position by talking up FAIR vs. GET, (which
France proposed after moves, but before retreats), but he doesn't seem
to be buying it.
> I'm still not sure what I'll do in Turkey/Bulgaria, but it will either be
> Con-Bul, Ank S Bla-Con or Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy
At this point Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy seems better. Austria
might dislodge Gre, in which case you can retreat to Bul, or he might
take Bul, in which case you'll have three Units adjacent to recapture
it in the Fall. One other thing that just popped to mind. Don't be too
eager to trade Greece for Smy, Italy will/should take Tri, which will
keep him from disbanding, and I'd rather see you grow than Roberto.
In Friendship, and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> Well, at least he's writing to you. 8-) Italy and I have been trying
to
> get him to move out of position by talking up FAIR vs. GET, (which
> France proposed after moves, but before retreats), but he doesn't seem
> to be buying it.
Ah, so that's it. I had heard rumors of FAIR, and wondered where they came
from.
> Don't be too
> eager to trade Greece for Smy, Italy will/should take Tri, which will
> keep him from disbanding, and I'd rather see you grow than Roberto.
I've been favoring it in discussion with Italy, since I dearly want him the
hell out of Smyrna. But clearly, once he moves against Austria, we'll have
the upper hand, not him. I'm sure you can appreciate that in my heart of
hearts, I'm actually not all that eager to give up Greece. ;^)
Ali
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
One thing I just noticed:
> rum-ser
> gre s rum-ser
> ank-smy
> con-bul
> bla-rum
>
> gal-war
> mos s gal-war
>
> ser-rum
> bud-rum
> vie-gal
> mos s vie-gal [assuming he means War, not Mos]
> aeg s eas-smy
If the move processes with these orders, then Austria will have lost 4
centers in one move: Tyr-Tri, Rum-Ser, Gal-War, and Boh-Vie. Assuming Italy
and Germany do their parts, of course.
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
***Private Message***
Ali,
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
> After consulting with my crystal ball, otherwise known as the Archduke,
> ser-rum
> bud-rum
> vie-gal
> war s vie-gal
> aeg s eas-smy
>
> With smy-alb and tyr-tri, Serbia has no retreat. Heck, Trieste wouldn't
> even need a support in the fall.
> My orders don't change but just a heads-up that Gal-Bud will not succeed.
> It's up to the two of you whether you want to change your orders.
Hmmm, suddenly Austria reveals his full plans to Italy... Why? On the
other hand, given Austria's situation, the orders mostly make sense, though
I think Aeg-Gre would be better than S EMed-Smy. Can we trust Roberto?
Probably. Is Austria telling Roberto the truth? I'm not so sure. What do
you think?
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> Hmmm, suddenly Austria reveals his full plans to Italy... Why? On
the
> other hand, given Austria's situation, the orders mostly make sense,
though
> I think Aeg-Gre would be better than S EMed-Smy. Can we trust Roberto?
> Probably. Is Austria telling Roberto the truth? I'm not so sure. What
do
> you think?
It may be that Italy hasn't inquired before now, and but has somehow managed
to ferret out Austria's intentions. It may also be that Italy and Austria
have always discussed their moves in detail, but Roberto just wanted us to
think otherwise.
My gut reaction is that it's genuine. For some reason France's press did a
lot to convince me Italy may be on the level. If the scenario plays out as
described in Italy's joint press, then I have to say Italy will be in pretty
damn good shape, so he's got some strong motivation to do it. And, the
Austrian moves he describes do sound like a pretty reasonable Austrian
defense.
At present my orders are as Italy proposes, to the letter. However, I value
your opinion a lot more than Italy's. Bottom line is, with my old set of
orders I still come out ok against the supposed Austrian defense; the big
difference is that Gal doesn't move to Bud. I'm assuming Mos-War, so with
the Austrian combination that Roberto describes, it would all be a big
bounce.
That might not be so bad, actually, if we essentially hold position while
Italy attacks Austria. But, if it's all genuine and we take advantage of it
as Roberto suggests, it would have an enormous payoff. It would also make
it easier for me to hold onto Greece in the fall if that's the decision.
It's a tough call. I should be in e-mail contact right up to the deadline,
so we've still got some time to discuss it.
Ali
Message from Russia to Italy and Turkey
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
> I don't expect you to make those moves, but they counter the following
> pretty dang well:
>
> ser-rum
> bud-rum
> vie-gal
> mos s vie-gal
> aeg s eas-smy
Did Austria tell you he was making these moves? Obviously, that's
the implication, but you didn't actually say so... You have, however,
repeatedly said, that the Archduke never tells you what he's doing with
his Armies, so why now, and why in such detail?
I see three possibilities:
1) He's heard from somewhere that you plan to attack him, and is
spreading disinformation.
2) He's worried and desparate, and was seeking reassurance that his
moves would work.
3) You've decided to stick with Austria, and are trying to turn our
attacks, and open up Turkey to lose Con.
Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
A Curious,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
Let's see how Roberto responds to my query. I don't know why, but
something about Roberto's letter just started my "spider-sense" tingling.
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
>
> Did Austria tell you he was making these moves? Obviously, that's
> the implication, but you didn't actually say so... You
> have, however, repeatedly said, that the Archduke never tells you
> what he's doing with his Armies, so why now, and why in such detail?
Good questions. I hope I have some answers. [picture Roberto pulling
rabbit out of hat] :)
He didn't actually tell me directly those were his moves. But, when I
queried him regarding 'Tyrolia support Vienna' he replied with 'don't
bother, it's moving'. Where else would it move other than Galicia? Second,
he's been truthful regarding his fleet move to date and he suggested Smy-Arm
and Eas-Smy and taking Greece back in the fall. Third, I'm the Archduke and
I'm looking at the map and thinking Rumania is supporting something to
either Budapest or Serbia so let's cut any possible support with both armies
(he hinted at such a move in an earlier message). The only moves that make
the Austrian moves fail as outlined are the moves I gave you and the odds of
them occurring without intelligence gathering is minimal at best.
> I see three possibilities:
> 1) He's heard from somewhere that you plan to attack him, and is
> spreading disinformation.
In which case my goose is cooked either way I move.
> 2) He's worried and desparate, and was seeking reassurance that his
> moves would work.
I'm quite sure the first part of this sentence is true.
> 3) You've decided to stick with Austria, and are trying to turn our
> attacks, and open up Turkey to lose Con.
>
I did prefice the message with, "I don't expect you to make those
moves....".
> Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
>
Other than directly quoting Austrian press (which can be fabricated anyway),
no. They are my assumptions as to what Austria will order from having
pieced together several press messages. I believe the odds are greater than
50% those will be his moves. And if they are, he'd be completely crippled
come winter. I don't often switch alliances very easily. It requires a
great deal of benefit to my nation for me to consider it. Truthfully,
Austria has served her purpose to me. I have fleet superiority throughout
the Med that will be difficult to match anytime soon. Seeing Austria pull
her lone fleet will give that much more security to Italy.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
>
I figured one of you would be suspicious but I thought it would be Turkey.
Austria has never been a long-term ally choice. Seems the time is right to
take advantage of his position.
The worry is Germany and what his role in these moves will be. If he keeps
his nose where it belongs, we'll be all right. If he sticks his nose where
it doesn't belong, we could have some troubles.
I hope you realize I'm on the level with this one although I understand your
suspicion.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
> > Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
>
> I figured one of you would be suspicious but I thought it would be Turkey.
> Austria has never been a long-term ally choice. Seems the time is right to
> take advantage of his position.
It is sort of ironic, I've been reassuring Ali all day, and laying out
why
I thought you were sincere, but that letter had so much more information
than you had given any indication of having before, and it's so close to the
deadline, that I got a major flash of "spider-sense" tingle in my kidneys.
Ali seems confident that it's legit, though.
> The worry is Germany and what his role in these moves will be. If he
keeps
> his nose where it belongs, we'll be all right. If he sticks his nose
where
> it doesn't belong, we could have some troubles.
He's told Turkey and I that he's ordering Boh-Vie.
> I hope you realize I'm on the level with this one although I understand
> your suspicion.
Your follow-up letter makes sense. I was just thrown by the fact that
you didn't indicate how you came into posession of Austria's moves, and
when I combined that with your previous comments about him not
discussing his Army moves, it just set off alarm bells.
In Friendship, and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy and Turkey
Gentlemen,
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
> He didn't actually tell me directly those were his moves. But, when I
> queried him regarding 'Tyrolia support Vienna' he replied with 'don't
> bother, it's moving'. Where else would it move other than Galicia?
Trieste is the most obvious alternative....
> I'm looking at the map and thinking Rumania is supporting something to
> either Budapest or Serbia so let's cut any possible support with both
armies
> (he hinted at such a move in an earlier message).
The probem with this is that a you're much better tactician than the
Archduke is. Last Fall, I was sure that he would either order Ukr-Mos,
or Ukr S Gal-War, and attack Rum to protect Ser, and bounce Sev-Rum,
but he didn't, he ordered Gal S Ukr-War, Bud S Ser.
> They are my assumptions as to what Austria will order from having
> pieced together several press messages. I believe the odds are greater
than
> 50% those will be his moves. And if they are, he'd be completely crippled
> come winter.
Fair enough. I don't know that I agree that Austria will make these
moves,
though he should, but you have eliminated the AI stab of Turkey from my
list of explanations.
In Friendship and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
Well, it seems your "spidey sense" was right... Italy didn't know what
Austria is planning, he was just speculating. Would have been nice if he
had volunteered that, instead of having it dragged out of him. Still, in a
way it's almost an argument in his favor; if he were simply lying, wouldn't
he have made up some story about why Austria was so talkative?
Gotta love this game, don't you? Schemes within schemes within schemes, and
90% of them are ghosts anyway.
I think it all boils down to the simple question of whether we think Italy
is planning to attack Austria or not. If he is, then chances are he's
genuinely giving us his best advice. If he changes course, he's going to
want Austria knocked out in a single blow, and the scenario he depicts would
do exactly that.
Italy probably does have reliable information about what F Aeg will do. And
again, once we assume an order for Aeg, nearly everything else follows from
it. If Aeg S EMS-Smy, then he cannot dislodge Greece. Greece cannot
support an attack on anything but Serbia, so Ser-Gre doesn't make sense.
If Serbia is not involved with Greece, then it's probably involved with Bul
or Rum. But Ser can't move to Bul or Rum, because that would allow Gre-Ser,
which he cannot permit. Any support Serbia might give is highly likely to
be cut. So if we assume Aeg S EMS-Smy, then Ser will almost certainly
attack Rum to cut support.
Which brings us to Bud. Bud is also likely to have its support cut, and
also cannot be permitted to move. Austria is closely surrounded, and anyone
who picked Austria must surely know that direct supports won't work in his
situation. Rum threatens Serbia as well as Bud, so this means Bud-Rum in
addition to Ser-Rum.
Finally, if Bud is moving, then there's no reason for A Vie to sit still.
Galicia is the natural choice, to cut any support it might offer against
Bud. However, along this line of thinking, War-Gal would also be needed, to
cut Gal's support against Vienna. So, if we start with a premise of Aeg S
EMS-Smy, then the rest seems to follow logically (except for my different
conjecture about A War).
Anyway, long and short of it is if we believe Italy will attack Austria,
then I think we should go with his plan. If we think he's setting us up,
then we should stick with our original plan. If we're not sure, then the
original plan will still work from a defensive standpoint, but we'll have
blown a potential chance for the jackpot. And the more I think about it,
the less likely it seems that Austria would fail to defend against the
attack we've been discussing (you, me, Italy, Germany... ).
I guess in the end I'm in favor of going with Italy's suggestion. What does
your spidey-sense tell you?
If my calculations are right, we've got about an hour before the deadline.
Is that right? Anyway, write when you get a chance.
Ali
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
I'm sure it goes without saying, but I intended to mention it anyway: my
first commitment is to you and to the plans we formed. If you don't feel
comfortable with Italy's plan then just say the word and I'll enter the
orders we discussed. I'll be watching my mail closely through the evening.
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
Sorry this is so late.
> I guess in the end I'm in favor of going with Italy's suggestion.
Might as well.
> What does your spidey-sense tell you?
Italy's speculative moves for Austria are Austria's best defense,
I just doubt that he will pick the best defense based on his
attack last Fall, but the potential pay-off for us is worth it.
Nick.
Message from Germany to England and Russia
Nick:
I've been away from email since this morning and the press has piled
up. I'm glad that I missed the exchange.
I agree with Ivy. Staying in SWE is the best move for me. It leaves
me no closer to STP than the Baltic. So the threat to you is exactly the
same. Plus as an added bonus I protect SWE and NWY from you. Certainly
you see the possibility of GOB- SWE and then to NWY. While I move to
BAL. Although I'll admit the risk of you actually doing that is small,
the loss if it happens is great.
I can agree to BAL-PUR with GOB-LVN. SWE holds
Fredd
Message from Germany to Russia
This is going to only you.
Ali has said that he'll support you to BUD. But I haven't heard that
you'll go there. It would be bad form for me to BOH-VIE if in fact
there were no attack.
Are you going? Or are there other plans that I need to cooperate on.
Fredd
Message from Russia to Germany
> Message from Germany to Russia in 'titleist':
> It would be bad form for me to BOH-VIE if there were no attack.
Boh-Vie would not be bad form, there will be an attack.
Nick.
Message from France to all
It is too bad that we did not get the results in last
night. I must leave on a trip in a couple of hours. I
will be gone through next weekend. I was hoping to see
what evil was done (to me an others). We were doing so
well with meeting the deadlines :-)
I am not the person late, therefore my absence will not
hold up processing this set of moves. I asked Doug to
advance the deadline for the next set of moves that I
have orders due. If for some reasons you feel that you
must talk to either Prince Boar or the Dauphin during a
retreat phase (if one occurs) and I do not have a
retreat, then you will have to work that out with Doug.
Regards,
France
Message from Russia to Germany and Russia
> Message from Germany to Russia and England in 'titleist':
>
> I agree with Ivy. Staying in SWE is the best move for me. It leaves
> me no closer to STP than the Baltic. So the threat to you is exactly the
> same.
Swe HOLD may be the best move for you, but the threat that F Swe,
F Pru presents to me and to StP is not the same as that posed by F Bal,
F Pru. You may not see the difference, but it is there.
> Plus as an added bonus I protect SWE and NWY from you. Certainly
> you see the possibility of GOB- SWE and then to NWY.
Yes, I also see the possibility of Swe-Nwy, Bal C Ber-Swe, followed
by Nwy-Nth, Bal-Den, Swe-Nwy, but I suppose that if Ivy sees GoB-Swe,
followed by Swe-Nwy as a greater threat, then Swe HOLD makes sense.
(Can you sense the irony dripping off that statement???)
Nick
Message from Russia to England and Germany
> Message from Germany to Russia and England in 'titleist':
>
> I agree with Ivy. Staying in SWE is the best move for me. It leaves
> me no closer to StP than the Baltic. So the threat to you is exactly the
> same.
Swe HOLD may be the best move for you, but the threat that F Swe,
F Pru presents to me and to StP is not the same as that posed by F Bal,
F Pru. You may not see the difference, but it is there.
> Plus as an added bonus I protect SWE and NWY from you. Certainly
> you see the possibility of GOB- SWE and then to NWY.
Yes, I also see the possibility of Swe-Nwy, Bal C Ber-Swe, followed
by Nwy-Nth, Bal-Den, Swe-Nwy, but I suppose that if Ivy sees GoB-Swe,
followed by Swe-Nwy as a greater threat, then Swe HOLD makes sense.
(Can you sense the irony dripping off that statement???)
Nick
Austria: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Italian Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Smyrna (*void*)
Austria: Army Budapest → Rumania (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce, destroyed*)
Austria: Army Vienna → Galicia (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Warsaw → Ukraine
England: Army Belgium SUPPORT German Army Munich → Burgundy (*void*)
England: Fleet English Channel → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet Irish Sea SUPPORT Fleet English Channel → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet London → English Channel (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → North Atlantic Ocean
France: Fleet Brest → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Burgundy → Belgium (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony → Burgundy (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean SUPPORT Fleet Brest → English Channel (*dislodged*)
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT Army Burgundy → Belgium
Germany: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT Fleet Sweden → Gulf of Bothnia
Germany: Army Berlin → Prussia
Germany: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Munich
Germany: Army Munich SUPPORT Army Bohemia
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT English Army Belgium
Germany: Fleet Sweden → Gulf of Bothnia
Italy: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean CONVOY Army Smyrna → Albania
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Smyrna → Albania
Italy: Fleet Naples → Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy: Army Smyrna → Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea → Albania
Italy: Army Tyrolia → Trieste
Russia: Army Galicia → Budapest (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Livonia
Russia: Army Moscow → Warsaw
Turkey: Army Ankara → Smyrna
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea → Rumania (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Greece SUPPORT Army Rumania → Serbia
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia
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