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Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto, My Friend,
>I seem to recall suggesting Mos s Gal-War. :)
Which would have left me with a 50-50 shot at
defending Sev, and eliminated any hope for Russian
growth.
>I tried to get Austria to concentrate on Turkey but he felt he had to
>attack you. Even after I stabbed him he still moved into your home center.
Yes, Austria will not win any rewards for
rational play in this game.
>As for Turkey, he didn't want to see you get a build either. I think
>Austria/Turkey feared a powerful Russia more than they feared a powerful
>Italy.
That might explain F1901M, but without a build
in 1903, I'm going to lose a Center or two to Germany
in '04, and I don't see how that benefits Turkey.
Of course, a 4-Center Power in 1904 is hardly powerful,
by any reckoning, especially when it's Russia.
>That's not to say your position isn't salvageable, but I'd have to think
>not too many observers are giving you a chance to survive.
Unless I can sway England this year, I'm inclined
to agree with the Observers. ;-)
>I've ordered an army build in Venice
My thanks.
>It's heading to Tyrolia or Piedmont depending on the next round of
>negotiations.
Attacking France this year would give Ivy the
opportunity to grow from French Centers while Germany
expands in Russia. I can't see how that's good for
you, even if you get Mar and/or Spa.
>I have two choices in Iberia. Ivy still has hope that I will help take
>France out.
It clearly seems to be to your advantage to
support France, and contain Ivy this year, while you
eliminate Austria. I'd say it would also be to your
advantage to have England stab Germany, since that
would slow/prevent German growth, and aid my survival,
and keep the West from resolving for some time, so I
would ask that you tell Ivy that you intend to support
France this year.
I'm not dead, yet!
I'm feeling better, really, I am!
I think I'll go for a walk...
Nick.
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
Roberto is claiming that he saw no way to get
you to support Gal-Bud because you didn't want me
to get a build. Since that would be a remarkably
pro-German position, and since a Turkey with only
one Fleet should not want a strong German presence
in Russia, I find this hard to believe, but that is
what he's saying. For this Spring, I'd suggest:
War-Mos
Gal-Ukr
Ank-Arm
Ser-Bud
Bul-Rum
Smy-Con
Bla S Bul-Rum
This will destroy the Austrian Army in Sevastopol,
with minimal risk to you, since you will have
support attacks on Bul, Smy in the Fall, if
Austria happens to guess right with F Aeg this
Spring, and a supported attack on Bud this Fall,
no matter what he does. What do you think?
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy, My Friend,
Roberto indicates that he's planning to support
France this year while he finishes off Austria. I
suppose he could be lying, but I don't see why he
would. France's Fleet build is a clear indication
that he intends to defend against you, even it that
means sacrificing Centers to Germany. Austria's
moronic disband is a clear signal that he hopes to
see me eliminated before he is, though why he would
feel that way, I don't understand. The combination
of these facts means that IF you're lucky, AND you
get support from Germany, you'll get one build from
France this year, while Germany gains two or three.
On the other hand, by stabbing Germany this
Spring, you can gain two Centers while Germany, at
best, remains at six Centers, and more likely loses
one or two. Next year, Italy is likely to attack
France, leaving you free to expand in Germany without
fear of a resurgent France, and I'll still be around
to harass Germany in the East, and stir up trouble
between Italy and Turkey. Please let me know what
you're thinking, since, if you're going to continue
your attack on France, I have to write Germany and
play up the threat of EF Nth, while if you're going
to attack Germany, I'll want to focus on IA Ven.
Still Struggling,
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> That might explain F1901M, but without a build
> in 1903, I'm going to lose a Center or two to Germany
> in '04, and I don't see how that benefits Turkey.
>
I agree but, unfortunately, Turkey saw it a different way. The more I think
about it, the more I think Turkey knew Austria was going to move to
Sevastopol. (He knew the other three orders.) I think that's why Austria
removed the unit closest to me - I'm not the last person to stab him. In
Turkey's mind, how could you be mad at him this year when he takes a unit
from Austria in SEV even though it's your home center. And, with Austria in
SEV, it would make it that much harder for the two of you to coordinate and
cooperate. He never told me he knew, but I'm confident that he did know and
refused to bounce Austria using the Black-Sea-fleet-self-bounce-in-CON
excuse.
>
> >It's heading to Tyrolia or Piedmont depending on the next round of
> >negotiations.
>
> Attacking France this year would give Ivy the
> opportunity to grow from French Centers while Germany
> expands in Russia. I can't see how that's good for
> you, even if you get Mar and/or Spa.
>
A move to Piedmont does not necessarily mean an attack of France. It could
easily be used to help defend Marseilles from a Burgundy attack. I would
move to Piedmont only with approval from France.
>
> It clearly seems to be to your advantage to
> support France, and contain Ivy this year, while you
> eliminate Austria.
That is the current plan.
> I'd say it would also be to your
> advantage to have England stab Germany, since that
> would slow/prevent German growth, and aid my survival,
> and keep the West from resolving for some time,
I would love for England to stab Germany although I seriously doubt that
will happen unless a few things occur:
- he's blocked in the West Med
- Germany grows too large too soon but unfortunately that would most likely
come at your expense so that's not such a good thing
I see Germany stabbing England as more likely.
> so I would ask that you tell Ivy that you intend to support
> France this year.
>
I plan on doing just that.
> I'm not dead, yet!
> I'm feeling better, really, I am!
> I think I'll go for a walk...
>
I haven't decided any plans for this year but if all goes well, it's
certainly possible I might be able to support you into either Budapest or
Vienna if you so desire.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> Roberto is claiming that he saw no way to get
> you to support Gal-Bud because you didn't want me
> to get a build. Since that would be a remarkably
> pro-German position, and since a Turkey with only
> one Fleet should not want a strong German presence
> in Russia, I find this hard to believe, but that is
> what he's saying.
Well, he tells you this, I tell you that. I don't normally pass press, but if
you want to see what it was I was hearing from Italy, let me know. The bottom
line is that holding Tri was a big deal to him, and he expressed no concern to
me whether you built or not.
The bottom line is also that I'm eventually going to have to start building
fleets, and when I do, I'm going to need friendly units in Russia. As you
point out, Germany is not that ally. I know I did damage to our relations
with my choices last fall, which I sincerely regret. But my enemy remains
Austria, and I'm more than happy to continue working with you against him if
you're still on board.
> For this Spring, I'd suggest:
>
> War-Mos
> Gal-Ukr
> Ank-Arm
> Ser-Bud
> Bul-Rum
> Smy-Con
> Bla S Bul-Rum
You didn't mention what Rum would be doing; it could either try moving to Gal,
or could support Gal-Ukr or Ser-Bud. In any case, I'm planning to order
somthing along those lines. I may self-bounce in Con with Bul/Smy, since I
can't afford to vacate Bul while Austria is in Aeg.
> This will destroy the Austrian Army in Sevastopol,
> with minimal risk to you, since you will have
> support attacks on Bul, Smy in the Fall, if
> Austria happens to guess right with F Aeg this
> Spring, and a supported attack on Bud this Fall,
> no matter what he does. What do you think?
Something along those lines will definitely work for me. I hope that
supporting you back to Sev might make up for my lack of support last turn.
Let me know what you think of the above.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
> > For this Spring, I'd suggest:
> >
> > War-Mos
> > Gal-Ukr
> > Ank-Arm
> > Ser-Bud
> > Bul-Rum
> > Smy-Con
> > Bla S Bul-Rum
>
>You didn't mention what Rum would be doing;
Whoops, that should have been Bal S Rum-Sev. We
can destroy A Sev this Spring without moving something
in there. Given Ser-Bud, Bud S Sev-Rum would be cut,
and given Bla S Rum-Sev, Sev S Bud-Rum would be cut,
because it will be dislodged, so you'd hold Rum, no
matter what. You don't need to worry about F Aeg,
this Spring, because if Bul-Rum and Aeg-Bul/SC succeed,
you'll retake Bul with Bla S Con-Bul, or Con S Arm-Bul,
Bla C Arm-Bul, and if he orders Aeg-Smy, Con S Arm-Smy
will dislodge him.
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> Whoops, that should have been Bal S Rum-Sev. We
> can destroy A Sev this Spring without moving something
> in there. Given Ser-Bud, Bud S Sev-Rum would be cut,
> and given Bla S Rum-Sev, Sev S Bud-Rum would be cut,
> because it will be dislodged, so you'd hold Rum, no
> matter what. You don't need to worry about F Aeg,
> this Spring, because if Bul-Rum and Aeg-Bul/SC succeed,
> you'll retake Bul with Bla S Con-Bul, or Con S Arm-Bul,
> Bla C Arm-Bul, and if he orders Aeg-Smy, Con S Arm-Smy
> will dislodge him.
That certainly does put a different spin on things. I had approached your
first press with an eye toward supporting you to Sev in the fall. As you
point out, there are numerous tactical advantages to what you suggest. Only
problem is, it puts me in Sev instead of you. I'm assuming that long-term,
you're going to want to recover Sev yourself. How do you see that taking
place?
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
>Message from Turkey to Russia in 'titleist':
Ali,
>That certainly does put a different spin on things. Only problem is, it
>puts me in Sev instead of you. I'm assuming that long-term, you're going
>to want to recover Sev yourself. How do you see that taking place?
That depends in large part on what Germany
and England do in the Spring. Bla S Sev-Rum,
Ukr-Sev in the Fall is possible, if Germany isn't
threatening Warsaw, but Mos S RA Ukr-War, TA Sev-Ukr,
A Arm-Sev may be necessary to block the German
advance. It's actually possible for Russia to
prosper without Sev, so I don't rule out leaving
it Turkish, but if I'm going to counter-attack
against Germany, I'll probably look for a way for
you to move West, so that I can retake it and Build
a 2nd Fleet in StP.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> Roberto indicates that he's planning to support
>France this year while he finishes off Austria. I
>suppose he could be lying, but I don't see why he
>would.
He's clearly not lying, since he told me the same thing. The
French/Italian relationship has been very, very strong since the beginning.
That's one reason why I have been very reluctant to turn my back on France
and go after Germany.
I think France intended from the beginning of this game to go north. It is
what he will do now given the opportunity.
> Austria's
>moronic disband is a clear signal that he hopes to
>see me eliminated before he is,
A puzzlement. That disband only serves to speed Austria's demise.
>The combination
>of these facts means that IF you're lucky, AND you
>get support from Germany, you'll get one build from
>France this year, while Germany gains two or three.
Yes, I will be lucky to get even one center. I don't think Germany will
get more than StP. Unfortunately, I have no way of preventing your loss of
StP. Germany will take that no matter what I do.
>if you're going to continue
>your attack on France, I have to write Germany and
>play up the threat of EF Nth
I am still leaning that way. If I ever change my mind, I doubt that I
would advertise it. Please don't tell Germany about the North Sea. He
hasn't even noticed it. 8-)
Cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>He's clearly not lying, since he told me the same thing. The
>French/Italian relationship has been very, very strong since the beginning.
>That's one reason why I have been very reluctant to turn my back on France
>and go after Germany. I think France intended from the beginning of this
>game to go north. It is
>what he will do now given the opportunity.
Once Austria's gone, (this year), that Italian
support is almost certain to turn aggressive, though.
I don't believe France will be able to move North.
>That disband only serves to speed Austria's demise.
The only explanation I can come up with is he's
hoping that Turkey will grow faster, and stab Italy.
>I don't think Germany will get more than StP.
It obviously depends on my moves, and France's
but I've made a commitment to destroy the Austrian
Army in Sev this Spring, so War is at risk, and I
expect that France will defend Bre and Iberia,
risking Par or Mar, so three for Germany is possible.
>Unfortunately, I have no way of preventing your loss of
>of StP. Germany will take that no matter what I do.
True, but Nth-Den, StP-Fin, followed by Den S Fin-Swe
balances it nicely, and forces him to pull back from
StP and War.
>I am still leaning that way. If I ever change my mind, I doubt that I
>would advertise it.
I'm not suggesting that you leak your plans to
me, but rather proposing an alliance against Germany.
Work with me against him, and you'll get two builds
this year, and I'll use my influence with Italy and
France to encourage IF conflict.
>Please don't tell Germany about the North Sea. He hasn't even noticed it.
>8-)
If you're not willing to work with me against
him, I have to play up the threat your position
poses to him to delay his attack on me. Given the
choice, I'd much rather work with you, though.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
How goes your negotiations? Mine go slow in that I have
had none :-) Is it a bad sign when no one writes to
you? :-) Sort of like when the jury will not look at
you, you know they are voting guilty!
My plan is to try and deny England a build. Have you had
any luck convincing him that Germany will get too
large unless he does something about it? I try, but I
wonder if I am even making an impression.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
>How goes your negotiations?
Italy has committed to supporting you this year,
but is undecided on whether to send A Ven to Pie, or
Tyl. I favor Tyl to pressure the German Home Centers
and force Fredd to pull back from France and/or Russia.
An endorsement of this idea from you to him would
prove helpful.
>My plan is to try and deny England a build. Have you had any luck
>convincing him that Germany will get too
>large unless he does something about it?
Negotiations continue. He says that he favors
continuing the attack on France, but recognizes that
odds are that he won't get a build this year, if he
does. He thinks that StP is Fredd's only likely gain
this year, but I have explained that my forces will
be committed to the Austrian Campaign, so Warsaw is
vulnerable, and that you are likely to defend in such
a way as to deny England a build, even at the risk of
Germany gaining Paris or Marseilles. He has not
responded to that message, yet, but I remain hopeful.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
>An endorsement of this idea from you to him would
>prove helpful.
Already done actually, for the same reason, but put
pressure of Germany at home.
I have hestiated telling England outright that I will
allow Germany to take a center as long as I deny him one.
I do not want him to negotiate having Germany hand him
Denmark or Holland as compensation. But if I do not tell
him, then he may have no insentive to pull back. What
would you recommend that I do. Please do not mention
this to him, I just seek your advice. The sooner the
better actually :-)
I bet if Germany grew by 3 centers, England would have to
react. Perhaps in the fall, even the threat of it would
be enough, if we could somehow then deny Germany 2 of
those builds.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
>Already done actually, for the same reason, but put
>pressure of Germany at home.
My thanks, I'll have to contact Ialy again, and
ask if he's made a decision about A Ven.
>I have hestiated telling England outright that I will
>allow Germany to take a center as long as I deny him one.
The disband of A Bur to build F Mar was a clear
signal of your intent. You might mention to him that
Austria is gone this year, and that means Italy is
likely to attack you next year, and you'll throw Centers
to Italy, rather than give them to EG, but if England
pulls back, you'll be able to turn and meet the Italian
threat.
>I bet if Germany grew by 3 centers, England would have to
>react. Perhaps in the fall, even the threat of it would
>be enough, if we could somehow then deny Germany 2 of
>those builds.
Yes, but for England to react effectively, he needs
to stab this Spring, I think.
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Have you made a decision regarding A Ven, yet?
I got a note from France indicating that he was
planning to to try to keep England from gaining a
Center, so I was hoping he had let you know whether
he wanted Ven-Pie, or Ven-Tyl.
Given the German threat, and the Austrian Army
in Sev, I don't think RA Gal will be available to
attack Bud, but I appreciate the offer. I'd,
obviously, love to see Tri-Vie, Alb-Tri, Ven-Tyl
this Spring. I suspect that Bud may be involved
in an attack on Rum, to try to save Sev from the
destruction I promised, so Tri-Vie has a better
than even chance to succeed, I think.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Germany
Fredd,
Are you sure you can afford to attack StP
with an English Fleet sitting in Nth? You could
easily find yourself disbanding one as England
builds two, rather than building yourself.
Nick.
Message from Germany to Russia
Nick:
You are quite correct in pointing out the dangers of the English
fleet. I've been berating Ivy over that one since the last moves
processed.
Don't worry, I'm not stupid enough to leave my back side wide open to a
stab. I've noticed that England has yet to take a center from
France. I would suspect that they can patch up their difference if they
want to. That is until England actually grabs a center.
Fredd
Message from France to all
Spring 1904 Symposium on Philosophy, Europe and
Everything.
- by Prince Xavier Boar
[This is Stuart Scott here. Surprisingly I did not lose
my job. I think that the brothers are too busy trying to
defend France to worry about me. They definitely could
use a better middle linebacker, that guy in Burgundy
folded like a freshly dried bath towel. Maybe they
should try to trade for Ray Lewis.]
[Let's role the clip on the uncensored parts of Prince
Boar's speech.]
Countrymen, life in France remains hard. The English and
the Germans continue to press our borders. With horror
we witnessed the deaths of some brave lads in Burgundy.
The Dauphin tells me that their sacrifice was necessary
and will not go in vain, but it was a tragedy
nonetheless. The Dauphin and I will continue to do
everything we can to turn back the English fleets and
slow down, if we can, the German armies.
We do welcome the arrival of the Italian fleet. Its
presence may allow us to hold out for as long as
possible.
[Was the disaster in Burgundy really a sacrifice for that
new fleet or are they just trying to cover up their
blunder? He mentioned some private stuff to give the
French people hope. Hope that he will stop talking that
is! Here is his customary pedantic philosophy portion.
Hey, alliteration. I have to find a way to use that one
on SportsCenter. Boomer will be so jealous.]
Philosophy
Today's lecture is on the topic of doubt and will feature
a great French philosopher, Rene Descartes. Descartes is
best know for his classic conclusion: Cogito ergo sum, or
in French: Je pense donc je suis. For the benefit of our
English speaking brethren: I think, therefore I exist.
The Dauphin likes to modify this philosophy to: I fight
therefore I exist. But the important part of this
philosophy is that Descartes arrived at it from a
foundation of doubt.
Descartes sought a method for seeing the truth of things
based on reason alone. He suspended belief in everything
he learned from childhood, doubted everything, as a
deliberate strategy toward certainty. My failure to
France was not starting for this same location. I should
have doubted the existence of an English alliance until
there was proof to support it. I put France at risk by
being blinded by faith without certainty. But no more.
The Dauphin and I pledge to continue to defend France as
if she will continue to be invaded by England and German.
No matter what the words we are hearing, we shall wait
for proof.
I am sure that many of you have noticed the Italian fleet
off our borders and recall my earlier words welcoming
them. You must be thinking, but you have not proof of
their intentions. I admit it is true. Only can a real
necessity or benefit allow us to risk trust without
proof. Therefore we must trust the Italian intentions.
[I think therefore I am, an interesting philosophy. I
know many a lineman who doesn't really think. I wonder
if they exist? If a Quarterbacks simply refuse to
believe in the existence of that 300 pound lineman, would
the bull pass right through him? Of course if he is
wrong, he will have plenty of time in a hospital bed to
ponder his philosophies.]
[Well, that is all folks. Until next year, if there is a
next year for France. I wish the Dauphin good luck. I
like coming to France. Where else do the women
continually kiss you on the cheeks whenever you walk into
the room?
Really, where else do they do that? I want to know. I
have some vacation time coming and need to plan a trip
somewhere!
Stuart]
Message from Russia to Germany
Fredd,
>You are quite correct in pointing out the dangers
>of the English fleet. I've been berating Ivy over
>that one since the last moves processed.
You have to wonder why he moved there…
>I've noticed that England has yet to take a center
>from France. I would suspect that they can patch
>up their difference if they want to. That is until
>England actually grabs a center.
True, but given the disband of A Bur, and build
of F Mar, it seems clear that France will defend
strongly against England, and as a result, you are
more likely to gain two builds than England is to
gain one. Can England afford to let that happen?
I don't think so. What recourse does he have?
Nth-Den, Bel-Hol, MAO-Eng seems the most obvious,
and most effective.
Nick.
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Baloney Diploman, the French sure are taking some pot shots at the
English. They do not seem to need our services.
DM> Boy Gambit, our role is to expose the betrayers in the world, it is up to
the powers to decide how to handle those betrayals. Perhaps the French are
just a bunch of whiners!
BG> Was that whiners or "winers"? They drink a lot of wine, get it?
DM> Yes, ahem. It is sure nice to be back in action now that everyone is back
from vacation.
BG> Why were we so silent? It was boring watching all those reruns on cable!
DM> Well Boy Gambit, we do not want to broadcast during known absences. By a
process of elimination our identities would be revealed.
BG> Holey Brainwaves Diploman, you certainly are smart. I never thought of
that.
DM> We have missed a bit of action during our silence. The blood was barely dry
on the knife and the Italian promptly stuck it in the back of the Austrian.
BG> Yes, they certainly are active. Who will be the next one to feel his knife?
The French?
DM> We shall see Boy Gambit, we will watch Boy Gambit. Anything else strike
you as being naughty.
BG> Well, I can't help but wonder if the Germans really invited the English back
into the North Sea. Was that a betrayal Diploman?
DM> We are currently investigating that one. It is up in the air pending
further information.
BG> The Germans may not have much to complain about. The Russia move to
Livonia last spring suggests that they expected something else from the Germans.
DM> Good point Boy Gambit. You grow in awareness each day.
BG> Holey Flattery Diploman, you embarrass me.
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
January, 1904
"Labor Unrest Worsens"
The work stoppages which have plagued the nation
since Production losses were anounced in 1902 have
worsened due to the flat economic results in 1903.
The employment crisis in Sevastopol, that was brought
about by the decommisioning of the Southern Fleet,
has been exacerbated by the garrisoning of the
Austrian 1st Calavry there last Fall. Czar Nicholas
has pledged that the Austrian 1st Cavalry will be
destroyed this Spring, and their horses slaughtered
to feed the residents of Sevastopol who were uprooted
from their homes last Fall. The Bolsheviks, always
the most radical memebers of the Union movement are
demanding a rethinking of the underlying unionization
strategy, and threatening revolution if there demands
are not met. There are rumors that the Czar's
personal guard are keeping the Royal Yacht, the
Standart, fully stocked, and prepared to leave port
at a moment's notice.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Have you made a decision regarding A Ven, yet?
>
France declined help in Piedmont so I will indeed make an attempt for
Tyrolia this spring. I'm still uncertain whether to support the move or not
though.
> I'd, obviously, love to see Tri-Vie, Alb-Tri, Ven-Tyl
That's the other option other than supporting myself to Tyrolia.
Let me know if you hear anything that may influence my decision.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
>I will make an attempt for Tyrolia this spring.
My thanks.
> > I'd love to see Tri-Vie, Alb-Tri, Ven-Tyl
>the other option [is] supporting myself to Tyrolia.
>Let me know if you hear anything that may influence my decision.
Indications are that Germany is concerned about
an English stab, so Boh-Tyl seems unlikely, especially
since Tri S Ven-Tyl would take Tyl, anyway. I tried
to get Fredd to move Boh-Tyl-Pie last year and he
refused because he didn't want to spook you. He has
less reason to do so, now, would I think.
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> That depends in large part on what Germany
> and England do in the Spring.
I've not heard from either lately, so it's hard to say what will happen.
Germany did tell me after the Fall moves that he would "delay" his efforts
against you until F Nth was withdrawn. Italy seems to think he'll have
Germany's blessing for a move to Tyr, in which case Boh-Mun is a high
probability. It's all just rumor at this point, but if I learn anything
concrete I'll let you know.
> Bla S Sev-Rum,
> Ukr-Sev in the Fall is possible, if Germany isn't
> threatening Warsaw, but Mos S RA Ukr-War, TA Sev-Ukr,
> A Arm-Sev may be necessary to block the German
> advance.
Either of these presents good possibilities. At the moment I'm favoring
Sev-Rum in the fall, with Ser S Rum-Bud. It may be possible to enlist Italian
support for the Bud attack, leaving Sev vacant for you to move into. If
Boh-Sil, Pru-War, then there will be no way to regain Warsaw anyway, and I
would favor Ukr-Sev. I think that for the sake of stability, it would be far
better for each of R/T/I to gain a center from Austria this year, rather than
anyone taking two. Either way, I would very much like to see Austria
eliminated this year.
> It's actually possible for Russia to
> prosper without Sev, so I don't rule out leaving
> it Turkish, but if I'm going to counter-attack
> against Germany, I'll probably look for a way for
> you to move West, so that I can retake it and Build
> a 2nd Fleet in StP.
In the long run, I think Turkish posession of Sev would be a thorn in the side
of RT relations. Clearly, any new Russian fleets in the north, combined with
Turkish fleets in the south, would go a long way toward changing the face of
this game.
I've entered the orders you suggested with wait set. I'm still hoping to hear
some more out of Italy before the move; he had stated a preference for my
attacking Bud, and indeed that is what I had been planning. In any case I do
want to take steps in the fall to ensure that Bud does not fall to Italy.
I look forward to your reply,
Ali
Message from Russia to Turkey
Ali,
>Germany did tell me after the Fall moves that he would "delay" his efforts
>against you until F Nth was withdrawn.
That's good to hear. I was concerned about
Pru-War, Boh-Sil.
> > Sev-Rum, Ukr-Sev in the Fall is possible
> > but Mos S RA Ukr-War, TA Sev-Ukr, Arm-Sev may > be necessary to block
>the German advance.
>I'm favoring Sev-Rum in the fall, with Ser S Rum-Bud.
Yes, that would be better for both of us. It opens
up the possibility of Ukr-Sev, Disband F StP on retreat,
B A War.
>In the long run, I think Turkish posession of Sev would be a thorn in the
>side of RT relations.
Obviously I'd like to control Sev, but I don't
see Turkish control of Sev as a relationship breaker,
if you're there to keep Germany from overrunning me.
>I've entered the orders you suggested with wait set.
Hopefully the set including Bla S Rum-Sev. ;^)
War-Mos, Gal-Ukr are in as well. I'm still trying to
decide what, if anything, to do with my Fleet.
Nick.
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
> That's good to hear. I was concerned about
> Pru-War, Boh-Sil.
Well it's still just speculation on my part, but it's something to hope for.
> >I've entered the orders you suggested with wait set.
>
> Hopefully the set including Bla S Rum-Sev. ;^)
Heheh, yep. Bla S Rum-Sev, Ser-Bud, Ank-Arm, Smy-Con, Bul-Rum.
> War-Mos, Gal-Ukr are in as well. I'm still trying to
> decide what, if anything, to do with my Fleet.
Tough call. If Germany does decide to counter an English threat, then
GOB-Swe, Lvn-Bal would be his only chance to recapture Denmark. In that case,
then StP-GOB could be very useful. On the other hand, something like GOB-Bal,
Lvn-StP would be disastrous if the fleet moved. I tend to think that Lvn-StP
would be ordered only with support anyway, but I'm still trying to figure out
what he was thinking with his fleet moves last turn. And, it's still possible
that it's all smoke and mirrors, and that we'll see Nth-Nor, GOB S Lvn-StP,
with Nor S StP, GOB-Swe in the fall.
I will write Germany again, though I haven't heard from him in a while. I'll
let you know what, if anything, I get from him.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
Have you come to a decision about Nth-Den? I ask because if
you're going to do it, and are willing to order Den S Fin-Swe in the
Fall, I'll move to Fin. If you're not going to move Nth-Den, I'll
have to consider other possibilities.
Thanks,
Nick.
Message [from France] to all
>I think, therefore I exist.
On an evening such as this,
It's hard to believe that I exist
- Bare Naked Ladies
>Czar Nicholas
>has pledged that the Austrian 1st Cavalry will be
>destroyed this Spring, and their horses slaughtered
>to feed the residents of Sevastopol who were uprooted
>from their homes last Fall.
I heartily suggest that you choose the tail end of the horse. Everyone
knows that it is the best part. We enjoy it so much we often act like
one.
- Buck Naked Gentlemen
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> Have you come to a decision about Nth-Den?
Yes, I entered my moves a few hours ago. For various reasons, I think it
best that I not say what my moves are. Information has been flowing around
Europe much too easily. For example, everyone knows that the Italian fleet
is at France's disposal. Even Italy has had to confirm that.
I can say that I have no idea what moves Germany will make on his eastern
front. From the beginning of the game he has declined to reveal eastern
moves to me.
Cordially,
Ivy
Message [from Turkey] to all
DATELINE: CONSTANTINOPLE
The official Turkish news agency announced today
that Sultan Suleiman, the Turkish ceremonial head
of state, is dead. The circumstances surrounding
the Sultan's death were not immediately made public.
Several witnesses to the elaborate state funeral
claim that the corpse on display, while bearing a
resemblance to the Sultan, was not actually that of
Suleiman himself.
The surprise announcement comes at a time when
the Turkish countryside is being ravaged by civil
war, and amidst growing concern about the mental
stability of Ali Baba, who continues to hold power
under the declaration of martial law following
last year's riots. Baba has been seen in public
muttering about how his "voices" will guide his
hand in military affairs, and several top generals
within the Turkish armed forces have either been
placed under house arrest or have fled the country.
Baba's personal security forces continue to
control the capital city, despite growing public
opinion against him. Though most Turks have been
hard-hit by rampant inflation as a result of the
war, Baba has repeatedly imposed harsh new taxes
to fund his military machine. The plight of the
Turkish peasants, many of whom are starving, stands
in sharp contrast to the lavish parties that have
frequently been held for top Italian officials.
Meanwhile, accusations of rampant corruption
within Baba's government are widespread. Many of
Baba's relatives and political supporters have been
installed in Turkey's recently-nationalized ship-
building industry, and are reportedly receiving
lucrative paychecks despite the fact that Turkish
shipyards have been mothballed for years.
Disturbing reports have also reached the city
that rival warlords have begun fighting openly
throughout the Turkish countryside. In one such
outbreak in Ankara, Baba's forces moved in to
observe but did nothing to resolve the conflict.
As the warring factions fought each other to a
standstill, it appeared that Baba was content to
let both sides demolish each other. Once the
bloodshed had ended, soldiers from both sides were
quickly conscripted into a new regular army unit.
Although Baba claims that the new force will be
used to help "liberate" southern Russia from its
Austrian occupation forces, outside observers have
noted that the commanders, chosen personally by
Baba, are generally believed to be responsible for
most of the pillaging, looting and other atrocities
committed during the Ankara conflict. In addition,
sources in Vienna now claim that European leaders
are closer than ever to charging Baba himself with
crimes against humanity.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Indications are that Germany is concerned about
> an English stab, so Boh-Tyl seems unlikely, especially
> since Tri S Ven-Tyl would take Tyl, anyway.
>
He has given his blessing for Ven-Tyr asking only that it remain for a
single turn. Once I'm there or course, I'll have to reevaluate what exactly
"one turn" means. :)
> I tried
> to get Fredd to move Boh-Tyl-Pie last year and he
> refused because he didn't want to spook you.
>
He never brought this subject up. I actually was expecting him to move to
Tyrolia though and was happy to see that he didn't.
Roberto
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicholas:
Turkey tells me that he feels badly about not supporting
you last turn and suggests that he will try to make it
up to you. Perhaps the time is ripe to ask for some
help from him, he just might help you out. I am sure
that he wants to eliminate Austria and have an ally in
case Italy gets greedy.
Things seem to be are looking up for you a bit!
I am not so hopeful. Italy will not make the order that
I want him to make, so I am pressing him. I worry that
I will press too hard and he will throw his hands up in
the air and turn on me instead. But I grow tired of
always hearing, next season, next season, next season.
I may just roll over and give my centers to England. If
no one is willing to help me slow him down then I might
as well let the world see what I was trying to prevent!
At least England has been honest about his intentions of
continuing to fight me. I do not get broken and hedged
promises.
OK, take a deep breath. Breathe..... Ok, better now :-)
Good luck with Turkey!
-- Prince Boar
Message from Turkey to Russia
Nick,
Just confirming, my orders are in as previously described. I've still heard
nothing from Germany, I have no idea what he's thinking. England professes
to have had "difficult" discussions with Germany lately. However, England's
tone seems somewhat reserved, so I don't know if he's feeding me a line or
not. All he would say was that Nth was moving, but wouldn't say where.
Sorry I don't have more. Best of luck in the result.
Ali
Message from England to all
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
What is this? A novice game?
Message [from Germany] to all
His royal majesty King Frederick XXXVILLMCMMM would like to add to the
outstanding press reports originating in other neighboring countries.
We have good beer.
Our girls are cute, and wear short skirts.
Yes indeedy
Tah
Message from Russia to England
>Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> > Have you come to a decision about Nth-Den?
>I think it best that I not say what my moves are.
That makes it difficult for me to work with you.
If you were attacking Germany, I'd have every reason
to NOT say anything about it to anyone, so I must
conclude that you intend to keep beating your head
against the wall in France.
>Information has been flowing around Europe much too easily. For example,
>everyone knows that the Italian fleet
>is at France's disposal. Even Italy has had to confirm that.
Yes, I told you that too, though I did not reveal my
source, or sources. For that matter, I asked Italy to let
you know, so that you would not delude yourself into
thinking that continuing to attack France was a viable
option.
>I can say that I have no idea what moves Germany will make on his eastern
>front.
He's taking StP, and pulling his Armies back to
defend against your stab. (This is speculation on my
part, but it's based on available intel sources.) I
regret that you don't trust me enough to work with me.
Sincerely,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
>He has given his blessing for Ven-Tyr asking only that it remain for a
>single turn. Once I'm there I'll have to reevaluate what exactly "one
>turn" means. :)
No, No, honor your agreement, move Tyl-Mun in the
Fall! ;-) Though Tyl-Sil has potential, too, if you
get Vie this Spring, and don't have to defend it.
> > I tried to get Fredd to move Boh-Tyl-Pie last year
>I was expecting him to move to Tyrolia
>though and was happy to see that he didn't.
My reasons for making the suggestion were, of
course, to avoid Boh-Sil, and because the move to
Pie would have cracked France like an egg. (Not
that I wanted to see that happen, but it was a good
move for Germany.)
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
>Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>Turkey tells me that he feels badly about not supporting
>you last turn and suggests that he will try to make it
>up to you. Perhaps the time is ripe to ask for some
>help from him, he just might help you out. I am sure
>that he wants to eliminate Austria and have an ally in
>case Italy gets greedy.
>Things seem to be are looking up for you a bit!
Turkey is always willing to work with me when he's
gaining Centers from the deal, it's just when I'm
supposed to get the Center that his support is only
verbal.
>I may just roll over and give my centers to England. If
>no one is willing to help me slow him down then I might
>as well let the world see what I was trying to prevent!
I, obviously, urge you not to do this. Our only
hope, as I see it, is to resist, and let Germany grow,
and hope that England realizes it's stab, or be stabbed.
>Good luck with Turkey!
Thanks, good luck with Italy.
Nick.
Message from England to all
>What is this? A novice game?
Oops. That was supposed to be a gray broadcast.
The jury is instructed to disregard ...
Message from England to Russia
Dear Nick,
>If you were attacking Germany, I'd have every reason
>to NOT say anything about it to anyone, so I must
>conclude that you intend to keep beating your head
>against the wall in France.
You are right. I am guilty of careless, shoddy diplomacy. I am trying to
hang onto the EF allliance another year, and I was too cowardly to say that
to you directly. Sorry, you deserve bettter.
> I regret that you don't trust me enough to work with me.
Now the shoe is on the other foot. This is false, for you know that the
issue is not trust. It is obvious that you could be trusted if I attacked
Germany.
No, it is not a matter of trust at all. It is just that, intelligently or
stupidly, I have concluded that it is in my best long term interest to
"beat my head" against the French wall one more time.
I will be out of town from noon today until Sunday evening. It's
frustrating not to have the results.
Ivy Wingo
Message from England to all
I am off to visit my citizens in Aquitaine. Be back Sunday evening.
Ivy
Message from France to all
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some
>power's orders.
What the???????
I have at least a half dozen reply messages from the
Judge in my mail box that say:
>: Judge: USIN Game: Titleist Variant: Standard Gunboat
>: Deadline: S1904M Thu Aug 23 2001 04:30:00 +0000
I am late because I specifically planned for a thursday
deadline. I checked several times on Wednesday to verify
that I had a Thursday deadline. The judge went down Wed
evening and when it came up the deadline was suddenly Wed
and not Thur!!
Did anyone esle notice this?
What is going on??
Can we reset the deadline for tonight?
I was up most the night with work and just crawled out of
bed, blurry-eye to find this mess.
France
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >I conclude that you intend to keep beating your >head against the wall
>in France.
>
>You are right. I am guilty of careless, shoddy diplomacy.
I wouldn't call it so, particularly considering
Pravda's leak of the Galician DMZ agreement in 1901.
>I am trying to hang onto the EF (typo of EG, I assume) alliance another
>year, and I was too cowardly to say that to you directly. Sorry, you
>deserve better.
Hmm, Nth-Hol? Seems unlikely. Nth-Nwy-Swe,
or Nth-Nwy-StP/NC with support from the German Navy
perhaps?
> > I regret that you don't trust me enough to work with me.
>This is false, for you know that the issue is not trust.
Your unwillingness to tell me what you were doing
with F Nth implied a lack of trust.
>I have concluded that it is in my best interest to
>"beat my head" against the French wall one more time.
This suggests that Germany is offering you a Center
this year, or has committed to getting you Bre this Fall.
Interesting. It might just work, if you can trust him.
EF Nth seems to have eroded his trust in you, though.
Can you grow as fast by attacking France, as he can
attacking France and Russia? Switching sides now gives
you my help against Germany, and Italy keeping France
busy in the South. It still seems like the better choice
for England, to me.
>It's frustrating not to have the results.
My Fleet order went in with my first letter to you.
(I was unable to check mail last night.) Hopefully, the
results will be in before you leave.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message [from Russia] to all
>Broadcast message from France in 'titleist':
>
> >Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some
> >power's orders.
>What the???????
>
>I have at least a half dozen reply messages from the
>Judge in my mail box that say:
> >: Judge: USIN Game: Titleist Variant: Standard Gunboat
> >: Deadline: S1904M Thu Aug 23 2001 04:30:00 +0000
>I am late because I specifically planned for a thursday
>deadline. What is going on??
04:30 +0000 Thursday is 11:30 pm Wednesday Eastern time.
Perhaps you should update your registration and set your
timezone.
Message from Master to all
The F1903B orders processed at 00:24:44 on Aug 21. The new deadline
was set for 23:30:00 on Aug 22, in accordance with the 47 hour deadlines.
Everyone's moves are due, please submit them with promptly.
Doug
Message from France to all
My link to my e-mail is down.
I am sneaking this message out a different way.
I have not seen any mail since I sent my last broadcast
I hope it will be fixed this afternoon.
Otherwise I will be out of touch until
I get home tonight.
France
Message from France to all
OK, I got connected to my e-mail. I am sending in orders
with this message. Sorry for the delay.
Can someone give the idiot's guide explanation for this:
>04:30 +0000 Thursday is 11:30 pm Wednesday Eastern time.
>Perhaps you should update your registration and set your
>timezone.
Do you mean the registration with the judge? Or is there
something on my computer that I need to do.
I have never noticed this difference before. It might be
something between home and work.
Thanks,
France
Austria: Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast) (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Budapest → Rumania (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Sevastopol → Moscow (*bounce, destroyed*)
England: Army Belgium SUPPORT Fleet English Channel → Picardy
England: Fleet English Channel → Picardy
England: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean SUPPORT Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet North Sea → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Brest → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony → Burgundy
France: Fleet Marseilles → Spain (south coast)
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT German Army Burgundy → Belgium (*void, dislodged*)
France: Fleet Portugal → Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Bohemia → Silesia
Germany: Army Burgundy → Ruhr
Germany: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia SUPPORT Army Prussia → Livonia
Germany: Fleet Livonia → Baltic Sea
Germany: Army Prussia → Livonia
Germany: Army Ruhr → Kiel
Italy: Army Albania → Trieste
Italy: Fleet Greece HOLD
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Greece
Italy: Army Trieste → Vienna
Italy: Army Venice → Tyrolia
Italy: Fleet Western Mediterranean SUPPORT French Fleet Marseilles → Spain (south coast)
Russia: Army Galicia → Ukraine
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) CONVOY English Army Belgium → Berlin
Russia: Army Warsaw → Moscow (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Ankara → Armenia
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Rumania → Sevastopol
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Rumania (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Sevastopol
Turkey: Army Serbia → Budapest (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Smyrna → Constantinople
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