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Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Predicted moves for Italy:
BlackSea->Armenia
Constantinople->Black Sea
Sil/Gal attack Warsaw
Serbia? perhaps ->Trieste
I've got to get used to these new conditions. You may wish to suggest my
moves. I do want to stay similar to you in size.
Ivy
Message from England to Master
Doug,
My EOY
*******************
England's 1911
Russia and Italy hate each other. Not to worry; it's only visceral. I am
confident that they won't let a little thing like the final's of a 2-year
tournament get in the way of emotional satisfaction.
I try to hold the anti-French union together, but fail. Again and again I
remind Russia that we can eliminate Italy after France has been reduced a
bit. When we are, say, 10-8-8-8, then Italy's 6 units will be spread thin
and he will be an easy mark. Russia wants to take out Italy now. I cannot
comprehend why Russia is in such a hurry.
It is no surprise when Russia cooperates with France in the fall. Italy
will now do everything possible to throw the game to France. Russia
actually believes that France will calmly accept a 3-way. He really
believes it. France says he will go for the 3-way. However, this should
now be an easy French victory.
What is Russia thinking?
Allen
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I sent you a note much earlier in the day but I never got a confirmation
on it. Perhaps I messed it up. The gist was that I disbanded F Bul for
political reasons figuring I could do more without it than I could with
it, and because I preferred the army in Mar.
I also indicated that I got a good laugh at your comment about the
puppy. :-) Thanks for that.
I need to go back and look at your proposed moves, I did not read them
in details during the flurry of messages. I would probably answer that
I am unlikely to actively have my units work with yours. However, I
cannot stop Con to BlS and BlS to Ank. I also am not likely to prevent
Ser from moving to Bud. Who knows, if it makes it there and Gal does
not bounce Tri to Vie, there might be an opportunity to support it to
Vienna?
I will try to write later in the weekend between shopping trips.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England and Russia
Sorry for my silence today. I was in meetings most the day. I am not
used to this many messages. I can usually deal with the one or two
quite easily. I still have to thoroughly read some of them.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
Italy was frustrated that I removed the fleet in Bulgaria.
I am thinking that he may go for Vienna, hence we should bounce there.
Otherwise I think that you will be focussing on shoring up your
defenses. We can discuss how many Italian units to remove in the fall.
I will position myself to be flexible. In the North I will act to keep
you and England honest. So we may have a split relationship between the
North (at war) and South (cooperating). :-)
--Xavier
Message from France to England
Ivy:
Thanks for the note. I agree with your comments on letting Italy cool
off. But Russia is hot now too, so it might be hard for him. I haven't
had much time to write much, but I would have probably just wait for the
dust to settle.
--Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
>
> I sent you a note much earlier in the day but I never got a
> confirmation on it. Perhaps I messed it up.
>
Who knows what happened but I never received it. Maybe it went to another
power by accident.
> The gist was that I disbanded F Bul for
> political reasons figuring I could do more without it than I
> could with it, and because I preferred the army in Mar.
>
Not a problem. Mar-Pie-Ven shores up the line. Greece has nothing to be
worried about.
> I also indicated that I got a good laugh at your comment about the
> puppy. :-) Thanks for that.
>
I'm glad to hear somebody (besides me) did.
> I need to go back and look at your proposed moves, I did not read them
> in details during the flurry of messages. I would probably
> answer that I am unlikely to actively have my units work with yours.
>
Ok, we can work on a set of moves that does not have you actively supporting
my units (until the fall perhaps) but still gives you a more than reasonable
shot at the solo if you want to go that route.
Do you prefer I not issue my statement giving you control of my units? In
reality, you have complete control of them but I don't have to announce that
if you don't want me to.
Roberto
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I will try to address your other comments later, although
a few I may avoid if it seems best. Feel free to ask
again if it is important enough. I do understand your
points. I will answer this one now:
>Did you set draw this spring?
Yes I did. I set it with the note that I officially
stated that I had done so. I did not remove it. I have
confirmed this in my private (press to f) messages. You
can read them after the game if you are so inclined. I
do not know who would have the free time to read it all
:-) (I did not set draw in the fall though.)
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
You are running the show now, and probably have been for a long time.
It'll be interesting to see what you come up with. I gather that Italy is
filling your mailbox with lots of offers.
Your Friday work day experience (again) makes me even more curious about
what you do for a living plus other personal tidbits.
Perhaps, given the modest prominence of this game, Doug could request a
brief Bio to accompany our EOGs. For example, I could mention my fondness
for butterflies and how I run around nearby counties in order to add
species to the state butterfly map. I don't think anyone already knows
that, so that's no clue to my I.D. -- as if anyone cared about anonymity
any more.
Ivy
Message from France to Italy
The fleet in Bulgaria was not critical. The army in
Marseilles was more important to me. But the disband
also is important for more political reasons. I may
actually accomplish more without it than with it.
Of course, I am often wrong.
Message from France to all
My adjustment is in, without wait. Any eoy statements by
me will be written this weekend, whether the adjustments
adjudicate before then or not. If Russia wants to let
the adjustments go forward, the next deadline will not
change. It is of course his option. I can pretty much
adjust my map now.
>Cool. I need something to use to potty-train my new
>puppy.
:-)
Now stop that! People look at me strange when I burst
out in laughter at work :-) Only send humor in the
evenings. My wife already knows that I am strange. She
things this game is strange :-)
--France
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
>Who knows what happened but I never received it.
>Maybe it went to another
>power by accident
I did not get a confirmation on that message, so it went
to no one, not someone else. I just got a
second confirmation from a message to about my having set
draw. I sent that this morning. So perhaps there is
something goofy going on with mail via my ISP?
>I'm glad to hear somebody (besides me) did.
The missing message broadcasted a note laughing about it.
In hindsight I hope that one never gets found :-)
>Do you prefer I not issue my statement
>giving you control of my units?
I do not think it matters either way. Russia believes
this already and will act accordingly. Do what you think
feels right for you and your feelings toward the game.
As for controlling your units, there is no need right
now. Make the best attacks you can. I do ask you not to
attack Rumania or Vienna. I expect that you would be in
Bud, Arm, BlS, Sil, and Gal or Ukr. That would pin down
Russia and open up the possibility for more active
cooperation in the fall.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
My meetings and experiments are not all that exciting. I
would be glad to explain. I think that we have some
things in common based on what I gleaned from some of
your comments. I know that we are so close to the end,
but I will resist the temptation to discuss identities.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
>Broadcast message from France in 'titleist':
>My adjustment is in, without wait. Any eoy statements by
>me will be written this weekend, whether the adjustments
Just so you know, I wrote this message this morning.
My ISP was sitting on several messages that are now
coming through, some for the second time?
>>Cool. I need something to use to potty-train my new
>>puppy.
>:-)
>Now stop that!
I assumed that Roberto meant this in good humor.
I was laughing at the unexpectedness of the comment
not at any negative comments on the Nick's broadcasts
Please do not send the Okhrana Guards after me!!! :-)
(See I remember some of these broadcasts :-)
I even had to surf the to figure out what they were,
although I am still not 100% clear. Isn't this a wonderful
game? I learned about Russian Secret Service types
and who Ivy Wingo was!)
Message from Russia to England, France, and Italy
> Message from France to England, Italy and Russia in 'titleist':
> Please do not send the Okhrana Guards after me!!! :-)
>
> (See I remember some of these broadcasts :-)
> I even had to surf the to figure out what they were,
> although I am still not 100% clear. Isn't this a wonderful
> game? I learned about Russian Secret Service types
> and who Ivy Wingo was!)
The Okhrana were indeed the Russian Imperial Secret Police,
(the predessors of the KGB). They had an extensive operation
in Paris, oddly enough. 8-) Virtually all of the revolutionary
groups and labor organizing groups in Russia were thouroughly
infiltrated by the Okhana, and there is speculation that Stalin
worked for them for a time. (The things you learn on the web.) 8-)
Russia.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
I will probably send in orders some time today. I wanted to know what
you would like me to do with Tyrolia. I am thinking that you would want
me to bounce with you in Vienna. This defends it from Italy. My
alternative is to support Munich to hold. Let me know.
You obviously need to defend Sevastopol and Warsaw. I need not know
your plan. You may choose something other than the obvious one.
Is England demanding Holland or Belgium since you will make gains in the
south?
The rest of the day I will be busy trying to root your spies out of
Paris!
--Xavier
Message from Russia to France
> Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
> I wanted to know what you would like me to do with Tyrolia.
I don't know.
> You obviously need to defend Sevastopol and Warsaw.
I don't know.
> Is England demanding Holland or Belgium since you will make gains in the
> south?
Not yet. ER discussions of 1912 haven't started, yet.
> The rest of the day I will be busy trying to root your spies out of
> Paris!
Good Luck. 8-)
Nick.
Message from France to France
1911 End of Year Statement
An excellent year in the end. It spent most of the year
trying to get Russia to stab Italy. I promised not to
take the win, which he claimed to have never believed. I
tried to convince him that I would not be able to take
the Italian centers before he could take them. I was
mostly serious about the promise and actually believe
that he could probably prevent my victory. I am not
certain how much my arguments help to cause him to
eventually turn on Italy. I am thinking that their
argument was the true reason.
As I stated in an earlier message to myself, my Spring
moves were quite desperate. They were based on what
Russia suggested would be the southern moves. But if he
lied or if they changed, I would have been in very
serious trouble. They did leave me very exposed, but
with very many options. I wonder if the fact that my
moves worked so well against theirs may have cause
suspicion of Russia and eventually lead to the blow up
between Russia and Italy? The other likely cause is
Russia's move to Ukraine. Russia could just as easily
have supported me from Galicia, but they might not have
been the argument? I will have to read the other
statements and the press later to find out if these
speculations are even close.
The question now is whether I will take the win, if even
available. I need to move on a path that would give me
that option, so that I am not in the position where ER
could just push me back, doing what the splintered EIR
could not. I may take the win just to avoid that. Or
being close to the win would be enough of a threat that
they would vote for EFR draw. My biggest hesitation
towards the draw, other than greed, is that I have never
won with France. It would be nice to add that to my
accomplishments and only have Turkey left. We shall see.
For this coming year I will take what opportunities Italy
gives me, trying to influence him, but not in a way that
would allow him to convince Russia that I am trying for
the solo and hence reform the EIR. It is unlikely, but
certainly possible. I prefer the draw to that and I do
not want to appear like I was going for the solo, just in
case Russia , makes peace with Italy. I will need the
appearance of keeping my word to try and split them
again.
Roger
Message from France to all
1911 Symposium on Philosophy, Europe and
Everything.
- by Prince Xavier Boar
[Hello this is Ken L., your guest moderator for this
year. Last year's Symposium was canceled due to some
crisis in the castle. Something about some dogs getting
sick? It is hard to get a clear story out of the Prince
on that one. At any rate, I enjoyed studying the battles
that have occurred so far. I bet I could write a program
to simulate and control these fleets and armies. Matter
of fact, I think that I will! I have been meaning to
learn C anyway. I will ponder that while you listen to
the Prince's State of the Union Address.]
My dear French people. The Dauphin and I continue to
hold the status quo, keeping alive the prosperity of
France. We have once again repelled the English invaders
from Picardy, although they continue to attack it. Rumor
has it that Ivy lost the keys to the Royal Bathroom in
Picardy. He is hopping around on one foot desperately
trying to get it back. If anyone finds it, please let me
know.
[I believe that he means to melt it down, reform it into
a different shape and send it to England, just to torture
poor Ivy. What a "lowe" blow!]
The Dauphin and I pledge to end the wars soon. It will
of course depend on the cooperation of our neighbors. We
hope to enlighten them on the need for peace. We also
missed our opportunity last year to say goodbye to Ali
Baba, may he rest peace. I ask for a moment of silence
for our departed friend.
[Brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it? Speaking of
crying, it is time to endure the Prince's lecture on
Philosophy. I wonder if I could write a program that
would simulate me sitting here listening? Maybe I need
to include an option for no press in my code? At least
there is a limerik at the end of the speech!]
Philosophy
In honor of our dear friend Ivy, today's lesson is on the
philosophy of George Berkeley, a fellow Englishman. He
asserted that matter or substance of things around us is
an assumption. An alternative assumption is that God
places in our minds all the perceptions that we
experience. Why is the assumption of matter more
reasonable than the assumption of God? To put this in a
proper context, does the fleet in the Mid-Atlantic Ocean
really exits or maybe it we only perceive that it exists
in our minds. I submit that there is not really a little
plastic blue anchor floating in the ocean. It is not
real. Therefore Ivy need not worry about it and can move
his fleets away.
Berkeley believed that things must be perceived to exist,
but they always exist because God is the eternal
perceiver. His arguments disturbed many and they believe
his doctrines false, but they found them unanswerable.
In 1847 a reward of 500 pounds was offered to anyone who
could refute them. It has never been claimed. Perhaps
one of you will take up the challenge?
Ronald Knox's limerick captures the essence of his
philosophy:
There was a young man who said, "God
must think it exceedingly odd
if he find that this tree
continues to be
when there no one about in the Quad"
Dear sir,
Your astonishment's odd
I am always about in the Quad
and that is why the tree
will continue to be
Since observed by
yours faithfully,
God
[Wow, heavy stuff. They should name several cities and
perhaps a University or two after this guy.]
[This is Ken L. signing off.]
Message [from Russia] to all
> I enjoyed studying the battles that have occurred so far.
> I bet I could write a program to simulate and control
> these fleets and armies.
You'd need quite a random number generator to simulate
the "control" of THESE Fleets and Armies...
Message from Russia to France
> In honor of our dear friend Ivy, today's lesson is on the
> philosophy of George Berkeley, a fellow Englishman.
*chuckle* Rasputin very nearly referred to Berkeley in
his response to your 1909 Philosophy lecture, but opted
to use the Eastern Philosophies he has been exposed to,
instead. We'll have to see if he has a response for dear
George.
Nick.
Message from France to all
>You'd need quite a random number generator to simulate
>the "control" of THESE Fleets and Armies...
Strong words from an anonymous coward!
Oh wait, I cannot reveal my last name, that makes
me an anonymous coward as well!
Nevermind then,
Ken L.
Nick wrote:
>We'll have to see if he has a response for dear
>George.
If he can refute Berkeley's claims, then Ivy
owes Rasputin 500 pounds!
--Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Someone pointed out to me that there was a Ken L in this game. Ooops.
I was referring to Ken Lowe, the writer of the Judge code. I put a
subtle hint in the message "lowe" blow. I keep forgetting the names of
all the players in the game. If I had remembered that there was a Ken
in the game, I would have used someone else.
I apologize if anyone was confused.
France
Message from England to Austria and England
>Very nice.
And thank you. In more ways than one.
We hope you may still be of service to us this coming year, possibly by
cutting Tyrolia and Trieste so that Venice will fall. If Turkey asks you
to support Serbia->Trieste, that would do as well. This is all very
preliminary, of course.
Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
some harm.
John d'Arc
Message from Italy to England
I just had a chilling thought.
I'm sure EFR are having some discussions right now and they are probably
reassuring you that a 3-way draw is in the works upon my elimination. Do
you trust them or are they angling for a 2-way?
Prior to the adjustments, I sent France a set of moves that guaranteed a
French solo. They included GRE-BUL. Two hours later, he disbands instead
of retreating claiming he didn't fully read my suggestions in the flurry of
messages that occurred. Funny how he doesn't quite have enough units now to
assure himself a solo victory this year regardless of how hard I try to
throw the game to him.
My question is, will Italy be the last power eliminated from 'titleist'?
The Vegas odds makers have posted 10-1 odds for 'yes'.
I don't expect you to throw away the possibility of being included in a
3-way draw, but if F&R are reassuring you that Norway,etc are safe and that
STP will be moving to Moscow, keep in mind that Russia has two unused builds
and a new fleet in STP/nc is a distinct possibility.
I asked France point blank Friday morning if he voted for the draw this past
spring. He said he did and I believe him. I also believe you voted for it.
I know what I did. [as an aside, it's odd how France was able to read and
reply to that message during the flurry of activity]
That leaves Russia. He's proven he's a scoundrel and I have no doubts he
not only is considering a 2-way but a solo victory for himself. I say he
needs to be taught a lesson for his actions to us.
What are your thoughts?
Roberto
Message from England to Austria
Oops, you got a message meant for a different game.
Are you still out there listening in?
Ivy Wingo
>>Very nice.
>
>And thank you. In more ways than one.
>
>We hope you may still be of service to us this coming year, possibly by
>cutting Tyrolia and Trieste so that Venice will fall. If Turkey asks you
>to support Serbia->Trieste, that would do as well. This is all very
>preliminary, of course.
>
>Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
>some harm.
>
>John d'Arc
Message from Italy to France
> I expect that you would be in Bud, Arm, BlS, Sil,
> and Gal or Ukr. That would pin down Russia and
> open up the possibility for more active cooperation
> in the fall.
Okay, sounds like a reasonable plan.
Roberto
Message from Italy to England
What are the chances of Kiel and Berlin supporting Silesia to Munich?
Perhaps if you think I'm worthy of being included in a draw, one of my
armies could find there way to Kiel or some such far off land.
Roberto
Message from France to Italy
>Accept my apologies for jumping to conclusions without sorting out the
>facts.
NO No no, please do not apologize! I accept all the blame. I try to be
humor and get careless. I should never have used Ken L. I used Allan
Calhammer, Richard Sharp, and then Ken Lowe seemed the next most
famous. It was stupid of me not to think throw whether there might be
any chance for confusion.
I honestly did not know about your dog. Russia said that you had some
family problems - if he told me a few details I completely forgot about
them. My wife's Grandmother is in a coma and my step mom has less than
2 months to live due to cancer. I would never purposely be insensitive
about the death of a love one. It is very much on my mind right now.
The dog reference was due to my La Raine Margot scene where Prince Boar
was trying to get rid of Le Dauphin. It wasn't even funny. I need to
learn to shut up and not try to be funny because I usually fail and
sometimes inadvertenly hurt someone.
Please accept my heartfelt apologies and feel free to take out my
stupidity in anyway you feel appropriate. The game is meaningless. The
fact that you though that I was an unfeeling monster is what has
bothered me all day. I was rushing out the door when I read your note
and I did a poor job expressing myself. The kids said can we go about
four times and I ran out of in just a minutes.
I am truly sorry,
France
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
My wife just got some very bad news about her family. I rather not get
into the details, but I do not want to tie up the phone and do not feel
it appropriate that I should be spending time on diplomacy. I will be
able to get my orders in on Monday, but I will not write or check e-mail
until then.
France
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
>I just had a chilling thought.
[laugh!] You "just" had a chilling thought? Did you ever see the movie
"Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"? You and I are now jumping off an
enormous cliff down onto a raging creek full of jagged boulders. Suddenly
you just have a chilling thought -- you can't swim.
It doesn't really matter, does it?
>I'm sure EFR are having some discussions right now and they are probably
>reassuring you that a 3-way draw is in the works upon my elimination. Do
>you trust them or are they angling for a 2-way?
I have not been included in any discussion of any substance. I'm on the
outside.
>Two hours later, he disbands instead of retreating
I know that Russia requested that disband. Russia is expecting some kind
of draw, and persumably the southeast is to be Russian. If any of this
comes to pass, i.e. if anything occurs other than a quick French solo, then
Doug ought to throw out the game on the grounds of incompetence and try
again with players 8 through 14.
**********
>What are the chances of Kiel and Berlin supporting Silesia to Munich?
>Perhaps if you think I'm worthy of being included in a draw, one of my
>armies could find there way to Kiel or some such far off land.
The Long Ranger and faithful Tonto find themselves surrounded by hostile
Indians. Lone Ranger: We are in serious trouble, Tonto. Tonto: Wha'dya
mean "we," white man?
[You probably have a clue to my age by my cultural references.]
I will make another effort to elicit something of substance from France or
Russia. If I get anything that might be useful to us, I will let you know.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Do you think France's message implied that he would communicate a little on
Monday?
I have to admit that I feel adrift at this point. All my logic circuits
tell me that the game is over, but I believe that you are much more
optimistic.
What is your goal?
Do you think there is a remote chance of any ending other than a quick
French victory?
Are there any moves that you would like me to make?
What about those moves that you wanted at the last minute a few days ago?
Most cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Do you think France's message implied that he would communicate a little
on
> Monday?
I will almost certainly ask for an extension until Tuesday, unless France
and I
both have a light work day on Monday.
> I have to admit that I feel adrift at this point. All my logic circuits
> tell me that the game is over, but I believe that you are much more
> optimistic. What is your goal?
Realistically, I don't think I can do better than an EFR three-way draw. I
suspect that you and I played together in the semi-finals, and I know that
I played with France in the first round, and he and I became friendly in
that
game. He seems to have lost the will to win here, due to a variety of
real-life
issues, and just wants the game to end. I realize that could be a deception
on his part, but it doesn't scan like a sucker-play to me; he seems
genuinely
disheartened.
> Do you think there is a remote chance of any ending other than a quick
> French victory?
I'm going to play as though Italy will be actively throwing Centers to
France,
and France will be taking them. He needs to take and hold four Centers,
without losing any to win, though, and he only has four Units to do it with,
so I believe that even if he tries, I think I stand a fair chance of
stopping him.
> Are there any moves that you would like me to make?
> What about those moves that you wanted at the last minute a few days ago?
They're certainly good as a default set, but I haven't really looked at
1912, yet.
In Friendship,
and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
I just read over yesterday's messages, and I am worried that my response to
you was overly flippant -- Butch Cassidy, the Lone Ranger and all of
that. Sorry, I know that you were serious. It's just that in my own mind
the game is over, and it is difficult for me to believe that anything you
or I do matters. I suppose there is always that small chance. Russia,
certainly, has a much different attitude.
Ivy
Message from England to England
Chap,
>Well, ultimately Tunis is up to you, but I'd recommend against giving it
>to Turkey.
I see another problem. If I helped Turkey into Tunis, then Tunis retreats
to Tyrhennian where it could cut Tuscany in the fall. That would make it
difficult for me to hold onto Venice if I get it in the spring.
> I'd think that Italy will support himself into the Ionian. Give a
>thought to Wes-Naf, Spa-Wes. I know that risks a double bounce, but Italy's
>on the retreat and under heavy pressure from Turkey - what are the odds he's
>ordering to Wes or naf?
Good thought, especially in light of Italy's broadcast. Isn't it nice when
your enemies like you? It's nothing I did or said, I'm sure; it's probably
what Russia and Turkey have done and said that has shaped Italy's
attitude. I feel a bit sorry for him, because I think he is a very good
player. There is a lot of luck in any one game, and his has been bad in
murph1.
John
Message from England to Master
Doug,
Grrrr. That's twice that I have sent a message to "titleist" that meant
for another game. At least I sent this message to England, i.e., myself.
Allen
Message from Austria to England
> Message from England to Austria and England in 'titleist':
> Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
> some harm.
>
> John d'Arc
While I'd be delighted to do harm to Italy and Russia, I'm a bit puzzled as
to what you have in mind.
Perhaps this was intended for your other game?
Absently Yours,
Archduke Ferdinand (writing for himself, as his lovely heralds have all
sought other employment)
Message from England to Austria
> > Message from England to Austria and England in 'titleist':
>
> > Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
> > some harm.
> >
> > John d'Arc
>
>While I'd be delighted to do harm to Italy and Russia, I'm a bit puzzled as
>to what you have in mind.
Gosh, you were my last hope.
>Perhaps this was intended for your other game?
Grrrr, yes. Sorry. Have I done this twice now?
Good old "titleist" will soon be over. I am dying to learn of everyone's
identities and say "hello" properly.
Ivy Wingo
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I have been scouring my mind and I am very embarrassed to say this, but
I vaguely recalling Russia? mentioning your dog. I am very sorry for
having forgotten it. I am overwhelmed in RL and I knew that you did not
want me to know about your private life. This tells me that if I do not
have the time to be careful with my role-playing, I should not do it
just because I started it. I certainly do not have the time right now
so I will be drastically scaling it back. I am sorry that you had to
pay for my carelessness. It was definitely not intentional.
Also, I did not download any of my messages, so if I seem to be ignoring
something, I will take care of it on Monday.
France
PS: If you are willing to tell me what type of dog your puppy is, I
would like to know.
Message from Russia to Master and Observer
Russian EoY for 1911:
Well, 1911 was a rough year, but I still
managed to gain a Center, and build two Units.
France was becoming more disillusioned with my
attempts to balance FR vs. EIR, and destroyed
my Army in Munich in the Spring, as Italy went
ballistic over my moving to Ukr, instead of Gal.
France appears to have lost the will to win
as a result of a number of real-life factors.
I, obviously, can't afford to trust that feeling
when France is at 14 Centers, but his agreeing to
disband F Bul, rather than retreating to Gre, and
the fact that he didn't betray my double-dealing
to Italy, suggests that this may be the case.
If France does go for the solo, I believe that
I should be able to stop him short, and my tempo
advantage over him in Austria, Turkey, and the
Balkans should allow me to keep him from soloing.
After the Spring moves, Italy demanded that
I move Ukr-Gal, Vie S Ser-Tri, or "the game is
over. Period." I don't appreciate being
threatened, especially when it's a, 'do as I say,
or I'll throw the game!', type of threat, but I
stopped, and looked at the situation, and decided
that even if Italy tried to throw the game, I
stood a good chance of stopping them, so I chose
to support France to Rum. Now, we'll see how it
plays out.
Nick.
Message from Austria to England
> Grrrr, yes. Sorry. Have I done this twice now?
Not with me. But I recognize some of the symptoms: the unknown signature
that should have been from France, the message to the same power it's from,
the references to units that aren't where they are presumed to be. (Not to
mention sending any message to poor stabbed eliminated Austria).
> Good old "titleist" will soon be over. I am dying to learn of everyone's
> identities and say "hello" properly.
I have guesses for most powers anyway. I'm sure you do as well.
Archduke Ferdinand, etcetera
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
Here are my current orders:
alb -> ser s by rum
smy -> con s by aeg
mar -> pie
bur s mun
par s pic
spa&wes s mao
tryolia???
I am just waiting on knowing what you want with Tyrolia.
There are a couple options. Bounce in the Vienna is the
safest, but there are better ones (like tri->vie,
tyr->tri followed by tri-> bud or vie -> bud in the
fall). Let me know what you want.
--Xavier
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
I am available and have default orders in. I am
bascially waiting to decide on one unit.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
My ISP acted up for only that half day.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I just wanted you to know that my plan is to eliminate
Italy, giving as much of it as I can to Russia. I
realize that this may make him pretty large. If that
makes you nervous, you can negotiate a fair transfer of
Northern territory with him.
I do not plan to purposely transfer French territory
(although I cannot prevent it indefinately) because I
wish to be close enough to the solo that you and Russia
will vote for the three-way draw.
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
>I just wanted you to know that my plan is to eliminate
>Italy, giving as much of it as I can to Russia.
Whatever you do is fine with me. I say this, because I've been reduced to
the status of bemused observer.
Not long ago, I thought you had a forced win. That was the time you had a
disappointing year and got to build three units as a
consolation. Following that, it seemed quite clear that reasonable
cooperation between Italy, Russia, and myself could halt your advance and
push you back. I told Russia repeatedly, and meant it, that once we had
reduced you a bit in numbers, then it would be safe to eliminate
Italy. For whatever reason, Russia could not bring himself to do this. It
is possible you have made promises to Russia in terms so certain that he
was comfortable with putting you back in complete control.
Now you, once again, are the proverbial 500 pound gorilla. You may do
whatever you wish. I will watch, make innocuous moves, and accept the result.
On other matters: Green Bay and the Steelers each had a wonderful
weekend. Unfortunately for each, this appears to be St Louis' year again.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I missed seeing my forced win opportunity. Then again,
tactics is not my strength.
I am not paying enough attention right now so I will
probably miss any future opportunities. I just wish to
end the game as soon as possible.
Prince Boar, Le Dauphin, Josephine, and perhaps myself
all need to go into retirement.
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Xavier,
>Here are my current orders:
>alb -> ser s by rum
>smy -> con s by aeg
>mar -> pie
>bur s mun
>par s pic
>spa&wes s mao
>tryolia???
Any word from Italy? What do you think of Tyl-Vie,
Alb S Tri-Ser, Rum S Mos-Sev? I would prefer, for
obvious reasons, that I take Italian Centers where
possible.
Nick.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
Bel-Hol, ECh C Lon-Bel, Kie-Ruh, Ber Hold, followed
by Ber S Ruh-Mun, Bel-Bur, Hol-Kie seems like it
should give you Munich this Fall. What do you think?
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>Bel-Hol, ECh C Lon-Bel, Kie-Ruh, Ber Hold, followed
>by Ber S Ruh-Mun, Bel-Bur, Hol-Kie seems like it
>should give you Munich this Fall. What do you think?
What I think is that nothing you or I do matters. Everything is in the
Prince's hands. If he wants a win, he has an easy win.
The moves that you suggest are very similar to what I was thinking of. I
will make some respectable moves and watch, bemused, to see if France walks
to victory. It is possible, I suppose, that he made promises to you in
such sincerity that he might keep them.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >Bel-Hol, ECh C Lon-Bel, Kie-Ruh, Ber Hold, followed
> >by Ber S Ruh-Mun, Bel-Bur, Hol-Kie seems like it
> >should give you Munich this Fall. What do you think?
>What I think is that nothing you or I do matters. Everything is in the
>Prince's hands. If he wants
>a win, he has an easy win.
I don't see that. He needs four Centers to win, and
he only has five Units in the Southeast corner. If
we take Munich, he'd have to hold a new Center with
every one of those Units this Fall, and not lose any,
to win. That's not going to be possible.
>I will make some respectable moves and watch,
>bemused, to see if France walks to victory.
No! I did not agree to stab Italy because I trusted
France completely. I agreed to do it because I felt
that even if he tried for the Solo, we could stop
him short of it. To do that, though, we need to
work together, and coordinate our moves. Please,
work with me here.
I've asked France to support Mos-Sev, and I'm
thinking StP-Lvn, Ukr S War-Gal. Have you heard
from Italy? Would you be willing to order Ber-Sil,
to cut Sil S Gal-War?
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>I don't see that. He needs four Centers to win, and
>he only has five Units in the Southeast corner.
For starters he can walk into Bulgaria, Constantinople and Ankara this year.
> If we take Munich, he'd have to hold a new Center with
>every one of those Units this Fall, and not lose any,
>to win.
I expect it to be impossible to take Munich. France will be ordering
Munich supp Burgundy->Ruhr & Paris->Burgundy. If he gets there, we can
forget Munich forever. I think I have to try to bounce him in Ruhr.
>No! I did not agree to stab Italy because I trusted
>France completely.
I'm a bit incredulous here. How could you stab Italy last year without
guarantees from France, when it would have been completely safe to do it
later when France was weaker?
> To do that, though, we need to
>work together, and coordinate our moves. Please,
>work with me here.
It took amazing courage to write that.
>I've asked France to support Mos-Sev, and I'm
>thinking StP-Lvn, Ukr S War-Gal. Have you heard
>from Italy?
Yes, he is doing everything in his power to help France. Consider their
moves to be coordinated until proven otherwise.
> Would you be willing to order Ber-Sil,
>to cut Sil S Gal-War?
Only if you are willing to give up Ruhr and all hope of taking
Munich. Isn't Berlin->Munich needed to cut support for Burgundy->Ruhr?
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>he can walk into Bulgaria, Constantinople and Ankara
Yes, but 16 or 17 does him no good.
>I expect it to be impossible to take Munich. France will be ordering Munich
>supp Burgundy->Ruhr & Paris->Burgundy.
He says he's ordering Bur S Mun, Tyl- my choice of
Vie or Tri to help eliminate Italy.
> >No! I did not agree to stab Italy because I trusted
> >France completely.
>I'm a bit incredulous here. How could you stab
>Italy last year without guarantees from France, when it would have been
>completely safe to do it
>later when France was weaker?
I did receive guarantees from France, and he disbanded
F Bul at my request. I did not, however, blindly
assume that France would not take Italian Centers as
they were offered to him. He may not, in which case
our job is simple, but I agreed to the stab because
I felt that we could stop him, if we had to. To me,
Diplomacy is as much about psychology as it is about
tactics, and both Italy and France were approaching
the point of being unwilling to work with me, in my
view, so I felt I had to stab Italy last Fall, while
I could still influence French moves in the Med.
> > To do that, though, we need to work together, > and coordinate our
>moves. Please,
> > work with me here.
>It took amazing courage to write that.
I am a cheeky bastard, aren't I? ;^} Honestly,
though, I don't think I've ever offered you bad
advice, and we do need to work together, if
France does try for the Solo.
> >Would you be willing to order Ber-Sil,
> >to cut Sil S Gal-War?
>Only if you are willing to give up Ruhr and all hope of taking Munich.
>Isn't Berlin->Munich
>needed to cut support for Burgundy->Ruhr?
It seems unlikely that France would lie to me about
his moves at this point. We've been in constant
communication since 1901, and formed a bond during
the early years when he was under pressure from you
and Germany, and I was under pressure from Austria
and Germany. He really seems to have lost the will
to win, though, and just wants the game to end.
Could this be an elaborate deception on his part?
I suppose so, but given that he could have leaked
my press to him to you and Italy years ago, and
gotten one or both of you to stab me, it just
doesn't seem conceivable. Tapping Sil will give
me Gal, and a supported attack on Bud, should that
prove necessary, so I think it makes sense. Also,
Italy will have to disband several Units this year,
so I should be able to move to Sil and perhaps Boh,
next year and that will let us take Mun if we fail
this year.
Nick.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
Your plan seems to exchange Serbia for Budapest or
Trieste. I do not see how that moves towards Italian
elimination. Can you show me what the fall moves might
be, assuming that Italy ends up in Budapest? I am
keeping an open mind, let's talk it through. But, I do
prefer plans that require little cooperation between our
units, thereby reducing the risk of betrayal on both
sides.
Sorry for the shortness of my notes. I am downspirited
of late. My notes will probably be utilitarian for a
while. I wanted you to know it had nothing to do with
you.
--Xavier
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>He says he's ordering Bur S Mun, Tyl- my choice of
>Vie or Tri to help eliminate Italy.
Very well, I will cut Silesia.
> > > To do that, though, we need to work together, > and coordinate our
> >moves. Please,
> > > work with me here.
>
> >It took amazing courage to write that.
>
>I am a cheeky bastard, aren't I? ;^} Honestly,
>though, I don't think I've ever offered you bad
>advice,
Agreed. However, I believe that you did something truly foolish all on
your own last time. 8-)
My moves are in.
Good ol' Ivy
Message from Russia to France
Xavier,
>Your plan seems to exchange Serbia for Budapest or
>Trieste. I do not see how that moves towards Italian
>elimination.
I gain Sev and Ser, while defending War, and we should
be able to keep him out of Tri in the Fall. Given
Pie-Ven, though, I'm not sure that really matters that
much. You should be able to take Con and/or Bul with
your Fleets, and force Italy to disband three.
>I prefer plans that require little cooperation between
>our units, thereby reducing the risk of betrayal on both sides.
I'm unclear on just how I could betray you, and I think
I'd already be eliminated if you wanted to betray me. ;-)
Has Italy told you how he plans to move?
Your Friend,
and Ally,
Nick.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>Very well, I will cut Silesia.
Thank you.
>I believe that you did something truly foolish all on your own last time.
>8-)
I grant you it was a risk, but my sense is that
France has lost the will to win, and that Italy
was not the least bit interested in being the
smallest member of a four-way draw. Additionally,
once the French Solo threat was removed, you would
have had the freedom to expand your own power-base
at my expense as I worked to eliminate Italy, and
I was concerned that you might try to go from 10
to 13 to 18 Centers. A strong France makes that
option much less attractive for you.
With Respect,
Nick.
Message from Master to Russia
I don't remember if I mentioned this the first time: When you "press
to O", it's recorded in the game history. The other players don't see
it, but they can pull a history of the game and see it that way.
Now this might be a clever diplomatic ploy of yours, but I'd hate for
you to be giving away game secrets because you didn't realize the
Judge handled things that way.
Doug
Message from Russia to Master
>Message from Master to Russia in 'titleist':
>I don't remember if I mentioned this the first time: When you "press
>to O", it's recorded in the game history. The other players don't see
>it, but they can pull a history of the game and see it that way.
>Now this might be a clever diplomatic ploy of yours, but I'd hate for
>you to be giving away game secrets because you didn't realize the
>Judge handled things that way.
Yes, I was aware of that "feature" of the code, but
since I've played a fairly honest game, and haven't
discussed future plans in any detail, I didn't figure
it would come back to haunt me. Italy seemed to take
offense at something I wrote in 1907 or so, and took
Warsaw the next year, though even after reviewing my
press to him and the Observers, I can't figure out
what it was. That's why I went to the separate EoYs
at that time, since I had to play both sides against
each other for a while. Now that I've declared my
true intentions, again, I figured I could go back
to sharing my thoughts with 'vgfp_titleist'. Thanks
for the heads-up, though.
Eric.
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
My moves are in. My moves will be similar to what Russia proposed last time.
Messages from France and Russia make no sense to me. I don't know what
these guys are doing or what they want.
Ivy
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
"Capital Liberated!"
by: Alix Hesse-Darmstadt January 12, 1912
The Russian Imperial Seat was finally liberated this
Fall, after six long years of foreign occupation.
The night was filled with cheers and songs as
thousands of people filled the streets to welcome
the Czar and Tsarina back to their city.
Czar Nicholas and the Tsarina Alexandria conducted
their now traditional Christmas Council in the Grand
Library of the Winter Palace. Finance Minister Witte
urged the Czar to celebrate this victory by pushing
ahead with plans to extend the railroad Trans-Siberian
Railway, so as to not squander the excess production
capacity Russia is currently enjoying.
Union Steward V. I. Lenin urged Czar Nicholas to
concentrate his efforts on restoring the docks and
shipyards at Kronstadt and upgrading those at
Murmansk, while laying plans to restore operations
in Sevastopol as soon as possible. Not surprisingly,
Naval Commander-in-Chief, General-Admiral Genrikh
Tsyvinsky, hardily endorsed this idea.
In a reversal of his prediction from last year, which
he denied ever making, Rasputin proclaimed that with
the assistance of our loyal French allies, (the ones
he claimed would be swept away last year), the Italians
and English would be nothing more than folk-tales used
the frighten children at this time next year. Pyotr
Rachkovsky, head of the Okhrana's Foreign Bureau,
reported the French efforts to undermine the Bureau's
operation in Paris were being successfully redirected,
chiefly by engaging the French Counter-intelligence
Corps in attempts to disprove George Berkeley's
theory about the nature of reality.
Message from Italy to England
>
> My moves are in. My moves will be similar to what Russia
> proposed last time.
>
So no chance of say:
kie-ruh
ber-kie
sil-ber
gal-boh
lon-nth-hol
with the capture of Munich in the fall?
> Messages from France and Russia make no sense to me. I don't
> know what these guys are doing or what they want.
>
I believe they want a 2-way draw. Russia, in his final message to me, said
something about how you stabbed him in '07 and I stabbed him in '09. He
actually still writes 'press to om' messages that end up in the history
file. I haven't read them until this weekend but he makes mention of how
fitting the powers that took his home centers have been/will be eliminated.
England was once in STP so I don't see how this philosophy would not extend
to you.
I for one don't want to sit back and watch these guys end up with a 2-way.
France has already rejected a flat out offer to give him a solo. To me,
that leaves two choices. Make moves such that if France does not take the
solo victory, he will forever be labelled a carebear for the world to see in
the 'Showcase' game of the first VGFPT. Or, somehow figure out a way that
neither of us can be eliminated since I am positive that once I am
eliminated, FR will come after you.
One last dying effort on the part of Roberto. You never know the answer
until you ask.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
Sorry for my silence today. I had extreme problems getting to my e-mail
from work. The server must have been having problems. It seems better
from home. Luckily I went home early (just to do Dip with you of course
:-)
I do not know what Italy is doing. I think that is just as good a
chance that he will concentrate his efforts on me as on you. He really
does not write me much, and not since last week.
Go ahead and order Tri to Serbia as a default order. I do not have time
to ponder the details and will probably just go with your plan. Mos to
Sev is a given.
What are you doing with Belgium? Are you giving England some centers in
the North? Any chance of a two way would require that you end up with
as many centers as possible. But he will probably not go for that.
Then again, maybe he really does not care much anymore? They two-way is
probably unlikely as I stated. I see no reason to deny any of ERF a
piece of the draw.
--Xavier
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
>So no chance of say:
>
>kie-ruh
>ber-kie
>sil-ber
>gal-boh
>lon-nth-hol
>
>with the capture of Munich in the fall?
Russia claims he wants me to try for Munich in the fall! I think he is
starting to worry abut France. Kinda late for that.
I am moving to Ruhr. It will probably bounce, but I am not so sure of
Berlin->Kiel.
Also, I am going to support an attack on Belgium, apparently with Russia's
blessing.
All this is crazy.
If you want to put an army in Bohemia, then that should help with
Munich. I don't think you can take Warsaw.
> Make moves such that if France does not take the
>solo victory, he will forever be labelled a carebear for the world to see in
>the 'Showcase' game of the first VGFPT.
We already have that. If France does not solo, then titleist has a
carebear finish. Period. Not the worst thing in the world; I confess that
I carebeared a 2-way once and could do it again.
This is a hurried note. I must race outside now, for my wife is picking me
up to drive me home.
Ivy.
Message [from Italy] to Master, England, France, Italy, and Russia
Recently, gunboat was breached in this game. For fairness, if you are
interested in the details, send a non-grey press message to the remaining
four players in the game. I will respond with the details. If you are not
interested, simply press your delete key now.
Doug, I think all press relating to this issue can be permanently removed
from the record of titleist for publication purposes.
a power
Message from Master to all
usin@thekleimans.com said:
>Recently, gunboat was breached in this game. For fairness, if you are
>interested in the details, send a non-grey press message to the
>remaining four players in the game. I will respond with the details.
>If you are not interested, simply press your delete key now.
An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous. Four "yes" votes
is all it would take to make that change. Please respond by press to
m for that one.
Doug
PS: Are there any players who don't know some/all the other identities
by this point in the game? Some by mistake, some by logical reasoning,
etc. . .
Message from Italy to Master
>
> An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous. Four "yes" votes
> is all it would take to make that change. Please respond by press to
> m for that one.
>
Difficult for me to vote 'no', eh.
>
> PS: Are there any players who don't know some/all the other
> identities by this point in the game? Some by mistake, some
> by logical reasoning, etc. . .
>
I only could guess that England lives in the Eastern time zone because of
the meteor shower broadcast. Other than that, I don't have a clue. Then
again, I haven't tried to get a clue either.
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
>An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous.
It is probably best.
>Are there any players who don't know some
I know two.
France
Message from Italy to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
>
> >Are there any players who don't know some
>
I do not know who any of the other players are.
Italy
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I am willing to set draw right now. If you wish me to do so, please let
me know and I will announce it.
--Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
> I am willing to set draw right now. If you wish me
> to do so, please let me know and I will announce it.
Sure, I'd just assume end this game. It's painfully obvious I am not in the
proper mindset to play this or any other game.
However, haven't we been down this street already?
Draw has been set at this end.
Roberto
Message from England to all
>An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous.
It doesn't matter to me, one way or another.
> Are there any players who don't know some/all the other identities
>by this point in the game?
I think I know who France is. If I am correct, he is a total stranger to
me whom I have never played before. I have no idea about any others,
except I think Russia and I played in a previous game.
Ivy
Message from Russia to Master
yes
Message from Russia to Master, England, France, and Italy
> >Are there any players who don't know some
I know two, counting me.
Russia
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
One simple way to settle the entire gunboat issue is to set draw. I am
doing so now.
--Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
More thoughts on your draw request.
If you can assure me that you are playing for a solo victory, I am happy to
play on. If however, you are playing until Italy is eliminated and then
calling it a 3-way, I'd just assume that not happen. After what Russia did
to both England and myself these past two and half turns, he deserves no
more a part of a draw than the rest of us.
My elimination should bring about a French solo victory and any other
outcome would probably be considered 'carebearish'. (Ivy has said the same
to me privately)
If you're going for a 2-way, that involves some risk in that Russia might
actually solo in which case that outcome would be acceptable as well.
However, my centers are more easily taken by you than by Russia so a 2-way
is really a moot point since you should have soloed by that time, IMHO.
Just my .03 cents of random thoughts for the day,
Roberto
----------------------
I wrote this prior to your latest broadcast and was just about to hit send
before your broadcast arrived.
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
The game is in your hands. If you want the four-draw, I will vote for
it.
If you want a French solo, I will go for it. If prefer a EFR so I have
less success, I will accept that.
Just tell me what you want me to do. I am 100% on the level!
How do you clear draw? 'clear draw'?
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
I just got home from Scouts, and have to help my son with his homework,
but wanted to answer your earlier letter. Ivy feels that you are going to
try
for the solo, and has asked me to not discuss our northern moves with you.
I hope you understand.
In Haste,
Nick.
Message from France to Italy
I found it, set nodraw
France
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
I have cleared my draw so it is not so rushed. We can take care of that
in the fall if necessary.
I just did not want you to think that some game was being played when it
did not pass.
Sorry for the mess
--Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
>
> The game is in your hands. If you want the four-draw, I will vote for
> it.
>
But, England and Russia would have to vote for it as well so it's not
entirely in our/my hands.
I have draw set. Let's see how the others react.
> If you want a French solo, I will go for it.
If the game does not end this turn/year, then I want you to get a solo
victory and would hope that you would move accordingly.
[had you kept the fleet in Greece, it would have been a forced win but I
understand why you disbanded it]
> If prefer a EFR so I have less success, I will accept that.
>
No, I do not prefer this outcome because that means Russia would have
success. If I have no success, then I want you to have all the success.
(I'm assuming you're talking about JDPR and ratings. I don't care about
those ratings. I play each game with a clean slate and act without regard
to any rating system.)
In my opinion, you've played the best game and deserve the best outcome.
> Just tell me what you want me to do. I am 100% on the level!
>
As am I.
Set draw but move your pieces for solo opportunities.
Roberto
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
I understand. I did not expect you to tell me much to anything. I said
a couple days ago that we would likely have a split relationship. I
have to make a decision on what to do in the North now. A, B, or C? I
can flip a coin, er two coins?
We can talk about the 4-way draw next turn. I thought it best to talk
to you privately before I officially took a stand. There simply will
not be enough time tonight. I need some sleep.
I hope that you enjoyed cub scouts. My daughter is a brownie. My sons
are not yet old enough for cub scouts, the youngest could be a 'tiger
scout' I suppose? I think that is the age for Kindergartners? Perhaps
next year.
--Xavier
Message from France to England
Ivy:
Hooray for the Steelers, Hooray for the Packers!
The Rams winning should not concern you, the Steelers do not have to go
through the Trans World Dome, or whatever they call it. I was cheering
for the Rams, but should have cheered for the 49ers. If the Packers are
the #2 seed, they would have better luck playing in SF on grass and in
the elements (wimpy though they may be) than on the turf in a dome.
I have the Steelers Kicker on my team. Can you go talk to him and make
certain that he stops missing so many FGs and for goodness sake, no
missed extra points! :-)
Thanks,
Prince Boar
PS: I will be curious as to what gave my identity away? I have a
guess. I have a guess for your identity as well, but both these must be
reserved until gunboat is removed.
Message from France to Italy
Our messages crossed again. I will set wait then.
As long as Russia does not order himself to Venice or Budapest, I will
have a forced win, with your help.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
We did settle on our moves in the south? Alb s Tri to Ser, Rum s Mos to
Sev? I want to confirm.
Also, I am going to set draw, giving you an out if you are afraid that I
might be going for the solo. I will wait a bit to hear back from you.
--Xavier
Message from Russia to France
> Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> We can talk about the 4-way draw next turn. I thought it best to talk
> to you privately before I officially took a stand. There simply will
> not be enough time tonight. I need some sleep.
I Set Draw for a time after you did last Fall, but England and Italy did not
come on board fast enough. Since then Italy's behavior has been such,
that I do not feel he deserves it, anymore, so I will not set draw again
until he has been eliminated. You're welcome to take any stand you'd like,
but my position will not change (unless you get to 17 Centers, and it's a
choice between a 4-way and a loss. ;-)
> I hope that you enjoyed cub scouts. My daughter is a brownie. My sons
> are not yet old enough for cub scouts, the youngest could be a 'tiger
> scout' I suppose? I think that is the age for Kindergartners? Perhaps
> next year.
Tigers are 1st Graders; "Alexi" is a Wolf Scout (2nd Grade), now, and he
enjoys it a lot, but he doesn't seem to want to do all of the things you
need
to do to get the badges and whatnot. I'm like, well, he's only 7, but all
the
outings and fundraisers and uniforms cost money, so a part of me feels that
he ought to take it more seriously than he does. I guess I have to "lead"
him a bit more than I have been. (More than you wanted to know, I'm
sure. 8-)
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
> Message from France to Russia in 'titleist':
>
> We did settle on our moves in the south? Alb s Tri to Ser, Rum s Mos to
> Sev? I want to confirm.
Check.
> Also, I am going to set draw, giving you an out if you are afraid that I
> might be going for the solo. I will wait a bit to hear back from you.
I won't set draw, but you can, if you'd like. I actually think that,
assuming
you don't closely coordinate with Italy, but just take the Centers he leaves
open, I would stand a fair chance of stopping you short of a Solo. (Given
the choice, I'd rathern not find out if I'm right, though... 8-)
Nick.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
>More than you wanted to know, I'm
>sure. 8-)
Actually, as I may be living it soon, I was quite interested. Thanks
for sharing.
Please confirm the orders for Alb/Rum. I hate to waste them.
I did set draw, but the way, in case it matters. Feel free to do what
you think best.
--Xavier
Message from France to Russia
>Check.
thanks.
I am off to be now. Good luck in the south. In the North, well I wish
you well in that England does not toast you, otherwise, bad luck :-)
--Xavier
Message from France to France
For the record, I did set draw
Roger
England: Army Berlin → Silesia (*bounce*)
England: Fleet English Channel CONVOY Army London → Belgium
England: Fleet Irish Sea SUPPORT Fleet English Channel
England: Army Kiel → Ruhr
England: Army London → English Channel → Belgium
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Army London → Belgium
France: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Smyrna → Constantinople
France: Army Albania → Serbia
France: Fleet Brest SUPPORT Army Paris → Picardy
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Munich
France: Army Marseilles → Piedmont
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Munich SUPPORT Italian Army Silesia (*void*)
France: Army Paris → Picardy (*bounce*)
France: Army Picardy → Belgium (*bounce*)
France: Army Rumania SUPPORT Army Albania → Serbia
France: Fleet Smyrna → Constantinople
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) SUPPORT Fleet Western Mediterranean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Tyrolia → Vienna (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Black Sea → Sevastopol (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Constantinople → Aegean Sea (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Army Galicia → Vienna (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Army Silesia → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Belgium → Holland
Russia: Army Moscow → Sevastopol (*bounce*)
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Livonia
Russia: Army Trieste → Serbia (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Army Warsaw → Galicia
Russia: Army Warsaw → Galicia
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