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Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Predicted moves for Italy:
BlackSea->Armenia
Constantinople->Black Sea
Sil/Gal attack Warsaw
Serbia? perhaps ->Trieste
I've got to get used to these new conditions. You may wish to suggest my
moves. I do want to stay similar to you in size.
Ivy
Message from England to Master
Doug,
My EOY
*******************
England's 1911
Russia and Italy hate each other. Not to worry; it's only visceral. I am
confident that they won't let a little thing like the final's of a 2-year
tournament get in the way of emotional satisfaction.
I try to hold the anti-French union together, but fail. Again and again I
remind Russia that we can eliminate Italy after France has been reduced a
bit. When we are, say, 10-8-8-8, then Italy's 6 units will be spread thin
and he will be an easy mark. Russia wants to take out Italy now. I cannot
comprehend why Russia is in such a hurry.
It is no surprise when Russia cooperates with France in the fall. Italy
will now do everything possible to throw the game to France. Russia
actually believes that France will calmly accept a 3-way. He really
believes it. France says he will go for the 3-way. However, this should
now be an easy French victory.
What is Russia thinking?
Allen
Message from France to England and Russia
Sorry for my silence today. I was in meetings most the day. I am not
used to this many messages. I can usually deal with the one or two
quite easily. I still have to thoroughly read some of them.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
Thanks for the note. I agree with your comments on letting Italy cool
off. But Russia is hot now too, so it might be hard for him. I haven't
had much time to write much, but I would have probably just wait for the
dust to settle.
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
You are running the show now, and probably have been for a long time.
It'll be interesting to see what you come up with. I gather that Italy is
filling your mailbox with lots of offers.
Your Friday work day experience (again) makes me even more curious about
what you do for a living plus other personal tidbits.
Perhaps, given the modest prominence of this game, Doug could request a
brief Bio to accompany our EOGs. For example, I could mention my fondness
for butterflies and how I run around nearby counties in order to add
species to the state butterfly map. I don't think anyone already knows
that, so that's no clue to my I.D. -- as if anyone cared about anonymity
any more.
Ivy
Message from France to all
My adjustment is in, without wait. Any eoy statements by
me will be written this weekend, whether the adjustments
adjudicate before then or not. If Russia wants to let
the adjustments go forward, the next deadline will not
change. It is of course his option. I can pretty much
adjust my map now.
>Cool. I need something to use to potty-train my new
>puppy.
:-)
Now stop that! People look at me strange when I burst
out in laughter at work :-) Only send humor in the
evenings. My wife already knows that I am strange. She
things this game is strange :-)
--France
Message from France to England
Ivy:
My meetings and experiments are not all that exciting. I
would be glad to explain. I think that we have some
things in common based on what I gleaned from some of
your comments. I know that we are so close to the end,
but I will resist the temptation to discuss identities.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
>Broadcast message from France in 'titleist':
>My adjustment is in, without wait. Any eoy statements by
>me will be written this weekend, whether the adjustments
Just so you know, I wrote this message this morning.
My ISP was sitting on several messages that are now
coming through, some for the second time?
>>Cool. I need something to use to potty-train my new
>>puppy.
>:-)
>Now stop that!
I assumed that Roberto meant this in good humor.
I was laughing at the unexpectedness of the comment
not at any negative comments on the Nick's broadcasts
Please do not send the Okhrana Guards after me!!! :-)
(See I remember some of these broadcasts :-)
I even had to surf the to figure out what they were,
although I am still not 100% clear. Isn't this a wonderful
game? I learned about Russian Secret Service types
and who Ivy Wingo was!)
Message from Russia to England, France, and Italy
> Message from France to England, Italy and Russia in 'titleist':
> Please do not send the Okhrana Guards after me!!! :-)
>
> (See I remember some of these broadcasts :-)
> I even had to surf the to figure out what they were,
> although I am still not 100% clear. Isn't this a wonderful
> game? I learned about Russian Secret Service types
> and who Ivy Wingo was!)
The Okhrana were indeed the Russian Imperial Secret Police,
(the predessors of the KGB). They had an extensive operation
in Paris, oddly enough. 8-) Virtually all of the revolutionary
groups and labor organizing groups in Russia were thouroughly
infiltrated by the Okhana, and there is speculation that Stalin
worked for them for a time. (The things you learn on the web.) 8-)
Russia.
Message from France to all
1911 Symposium on Philosophy, Europe and
Everything.
- by Prince Xavier Boar
[Hello this is Ken L., your guest moderator for this
year. Last year's Symposium was canceled due to some
crisis in the castle. Something about some dogs getting
sick? It is hard to get a clear story out of the Prince
on that one. At any rate, I enjoyed studying the battles
that have occurred so far. I bet I could write a program
to simulate and control these fleets and armies. Matter
of fact, I think that I will! I have been meaning to
learn C anyway. I will ponder that while you listen to
the Prince's State of the Union Address.]
My dear French people. The Dauphin and I continue to
hold the status quo, keeping alive the prosperity of
France. We have once again repelled the English invaders
from Picardy, although they continue to attack it. Rumor
has it that Ivy lost the keys to the Royal Bathroom in
Picardy. He is hopping around on one foot desperately
trying to get it back. If anyone finds it, please let me
know.
[I believe that he means to melt it down, reform it into
a different shape and send it to England, just to torture
poor Ivy. What a "lowe" blow!]
The Dauphin and I pledge to end the wars soon. It will
of course depend on the cooperation of our neighbors. We
hope to enlighten them on the need for peace. We also
missed our opportunity last year to say goodbye to Ali
Baba, may he rest peace. I ask for a moment of silence
for our departed friend.
[Brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it? Speaking of
crying, it is time to endure the Prince's lecture on
Philosophy. I wonder if I could write a program that
would simulate me sitting here listening? Maybe I need
to include an option for no press in my code? At least
there is a limerik at the end of the speech!]
Philosophy
In honor of our dear friend Ivy, today's lesson is on the
philosophy of George Berkeley, a fellow Englishman. He
asserted that matter or substance of things around us is
an assumption. An alternative assumption is that God
places in our minds all the perceptions that we
experience. Why is the assumption of matter more
reasonable than the assumption of God? To put this in a
proper context, does the fleet in the Mid-Atlantic Ocean
really exits or maybe it we only perceive that it exists
in our minds. I submit that there is not really a little
plastic blue anchor floating in the ocean. It is not
real. Therefore Ivy need not worry about it and can move
his fleets away.
Berkeley believed that things must be perceived to exist,
but they always exist because God is the eternal
perceiver. His arguments disturbed many and they believe
his doctrines false, but they found them unanswerable.
In 1847 a reward of 500 pounds was offered to anyone who
could refute them. It has never been claimed. Perhaps
one of you will take up the challenge?
Ronald Knox's limerick captures the essence of his
philosophy:
There was a young man who said, "God
must think it exceedingly odd
if he find that this tree
continues to be
when there no one about in the Quad"
Dear sir,
Your astonishment's odd
I am always about in the Quad
and that is why the tree
will continue to be
Since observed by
yours faithfully,
God
[Wow, heavy stuff. They should name several cities and
perhaps a University or two after this guy.]
[This is Ken L. signing off.]
Message [from Russia] to all
> I enjoyed studying the battles that have occurred so far.
> I bet I could write a program to simulate and control
> these fleets and armies.
You'd need quite a random number generator to simulate
the "control" of THESE Fleets and Armies...
Message from France to all
>You'd need quite a random number generator to simulate
>the "control" of THESE Fleets and Armies...
Strong words from an anonymous coward!
Oh wait, I cannot reveal my last name, that makes
me an anonymous coward as well!
Nevermind then,
Ken L.
Nick wrote:
>We'll have to see if he has a response for dear
>George.
If he can refute Berkeley's claims, then Ivy
owes Rasputin 500 pounds!
--Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Someone pointed out to me that there was a Ken L in this game. Ooops.
I was referring to Ken Lowe, the writer of the Judge code. I put a
subtle hint in the message "lowe" blow. I keep forgetting the names of
all the players in the game. If I had remembered that there was a Ken
in the game, I would have used someone else.
I apologize if anyone was confused.
France
Message from England to Austria and England
>Very nice.
And thank you. In more ways than one.
We hope you may still be of service to us this coming year, possibly by
cutting Tyrolia and Trieste so that Venice will fall. If Turkey asks you
to support Serbia->Trieste, that would do as well. This is all very
preliminary, of course.
Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
some harm.
John d'Arc
Message from Italy to England
I just had a chilling thought.
I'm sure EFR are having some discussions right now and they are probably
reassuring you that a 3-way draw is in the works upon my elimination. Do
you trust them or are they angling for a 2-way?
Prior to the adjustments, I sent France a set of moves that guaranteed a
French solo. They included GRE-BUL. Two hours later, he disbands instead
of retreating claiming he didn't fully read my suggestions in the flurry of
messages that occurred. Funny how he doesn't quite have enough units now to
assure himself a solo victory this year regardless of how hard I try to
throw the game to him.
My question is, will Italy be the last power eliminated from 'titleist'?
The Vegas odds makers have posted 10-1 odds for 'yes'.
I don't expect you to throw away the possibility of being included in a
3-way draw, but if F&R are reassuring you that Norway,etc are safe and that
STP will be moving to Moscow, keep in mind that Russia has two unused builds
and a new fleet in STP/nc is a distinct possibility.
I asked France point blank Friday morning if he voted for the draw this past
spring. He said he did and I believe him. I also believe you voted for it.
I know what I did. [as an aside, it's odd how France was able to read and
reply to that message during the flurry of activity]
That leaves Russia. He's proven he's a scoundrel and I have no doubts he
not only is considering a 2-way but a solo victory for himself. I say he
needs to be taught a lesson for his actions to us.
What are your thoughts?
Roberto
Message from England to Austria
Oops, you got a message meant for a different game.
Are you still out there listening in?
Ivy Wingo
>>Very nice.
>
>And thank you. In more ways than one.
>
>We hope you may still be of service to us this coming year, possibly by
>cutting Tyrolia and Trieste so that Venice will fall. If Turkey asks you
>to support Serbia->Trieste, that would do as well. This is all very
>preliminary, of course.
>
>Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
>some harm.
>
>John d'Arc
Message from Italy to England
What are the chances of Kiel and Berlin supporting Silesia to Munich?
Perhaps if you think I'm worthy of being included in a draw, one of my
armies could find there way to Kiel or some such far off land.
Roberto
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
My wife just got some very bad news about her family. I rather not get
into the details, but I do not want to tie up the phone and do not feel
it appropriate that I should be spending time on diplomacy. I will be
able to get my orders in on Monday, but I will not write or check e-mail
until then.
France
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
>I just had a chilling thought.
[laugh!] You "just" had a chilling thought? Did you ever see the movie
"Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid"? You and I are now jumping off an
enormous cliff down onto a raging creek full of jagged boulders. Suddenly
you just have a chilling thought -- you can't swim.
It doesn't really matter, does it?
>I'm sure EFR are having some discussions right now and they are probably
>reassuring you that a 3-way draw is in the works upon my elimination. Do
>you trust them or are they angling for a 2-way?
I have not been included in any discussion of any substance. I'm on the
outside.
>Two hours later, he disbands instead of retreating
I know that Russia requested that disband. Russia is expecting some kind
of draw, and persumably the southeast is to be Russian. If any of this
comes to pass, i.e. if anything occurs other than a quick French solo, then
Doug ought to throw out the game on the grounds of incompetence and try
again with players 8 through 14.
**********
>What are the chances of Kiel and Berlin supporting Silesia to Munich?
>Perhaps if you think I'm worthy of being included in a draw, one of my
>armies could find there way to Kiel or some such far off land.
The Long Ranger and faithful Tonto find themselves surrounded by hostile
Indians. Lone Ranger: We are in serious trouble, Tonto. Tonto: Wha'dya
mean "we," white man?
[You probably have a clue to my age by my cultural references.]
I will make another effort to elicit something of substance from France or
Russia. If I get anything that might be useful to us, I will let you know.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Do you think France's message implied that he would communicate a little on
Monday?
I have to admit that I feel adrift at this point. All my logic circuits
tell me that the game is over, but I believe that you are much more
optimistic.
What is your goal?
Do you think there is a remote chance of any ending other than a quick
French victory?
Are there any moves that you would like me to make?
What about those moves that you wanted at the last minute a few days ago?
Most cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Do you think France's message implied that he would communicate a little
on
> Monday?
I will almost certainly ask for an extension until Tuesday, unless France
and I
both have a light work day on Monday.
> I have to admit that I feel adrift at this point. All my logic circuits
> tell me that the game is over, but I believe that you are much more
> optimistic. What is your goal?
Realistically, I don't think I can do better than an EFR three-way draw. I
suspect that you and I played together in the semi-finals, and I know that
I played with France in the first round, and he and I became friendly in
that
game. He seems to have lost the will to win here, due to a variety of
real-life
issues, and just wants the game to end. I realize that could be a deception
on his part, but it doesn't scan like a sucker-play to me; he seems
genuinely
disheartened.
> Do you think there is a remote chance of any ending other than a quick
> French victory?
I'm going to play as though Italy will be actively throwing Centers to
France,
and France will be taking them. He needs to take and hold four Centers,
without losing any to win, though, and he only has four Units to do it with,
so I believe that even if he tries, I think I stand a fair chance of
stopping him.
> Are there any moves that you would like me to make?
> What about those moves that you wanted at the last minute a few days ago?
They're certainly good as a default set, but I haven't really looked at
1912, yet.
In Friendship,
and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
I just read over yesterday's messages, and I am worried that my response to
you was overly flippant -- Butch Cassidy, the Lone Ranger and all of
that. Sorry, I know that you were serious. It's just that in my own mind
the game is over, and it is difficult for me to believe that anything you
or I do matters. I suppose there is always that small chance. Russia,
certainly, has a much different attitude.
Ivy
Message from England to England
Chap,
>Well, ultimately Tunis is up to you, but I'd recommend against giving it
>to Turkey.
I see another problem. If I helped Turkey into Tunis, then Tunis retreats
to Tyrhennian where it could cut Tuscany in the fall. That would make it
difficult for me to hold onto Venice if I get it in the spring.
> I'd think that Italy will support himself into the Ionian. Give a
>thought to Wes-Naf, Spa-Wes. I know that risks a double bounce, but Italy's
>on the retreat and under heavy pressure from Turkey - what are the odds he's
>ordering to Wes or naf?
Good thought, especially in light of Italy's broadcast. Isn't it nice when
your enemies like you? It's nothing I did or said, I'm sure; it's probably
what Russia and Turkey have done and said that has shaped Italy's
attitude. I feel a bit sorry for him, because I think he is a very good
player. There is a lot of luck in any one game, and his has been bad in
murph1.
John
Message from England to Master
Doug,
Grrrr. That's twice that I have sent a message to "titleist" that meant
for another game. At least I sent this message to England, i.e., myself.
Allen
Message from Austria to England
> Message from England to Austria and England in 'titleist':
> Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
> some harm.
>
> John d'Arc
While I'd be delighted to do harm to Italy and Russia, I'm a bit puzzled as
to what you have in mind.
Perhaps this was intended for your other game?
Absently Yours,
Archduke Ferdinand (writing for himself, as his lovely heralds have all
sought other employment)
Message from England to Austria
> > Message from England to Austria and England in 'titleist':
>
> > Let us know if you have other devious ideas that could do Italy & Russia
> > some harm.
> >
> > John d'Arc
>
>While I'd be delighted to do harm to Italy and Russia, I'm a bit puzzled as
>to what you have in mind.
Gosh, you were my last hope.
>Perhaps this was intended for your other game?
Grrrr, yes. Sorry. Have I done this twice now?
Good old "titleist" will soon be over. I am dying to learn of everyone's
identities and say "hello" properly.
Ivy Wingo
Message from Austria to England
> Grrrr, yes. Sorry. Have I done this twice now?
Not with me. But I recognize some of the symptoms: the unknown signature
that should have been from France, the message to the same power it's from,
the references to units that aren't where they are presumed to be. (Not to
mention sending any message to poor stabbed eliminated Austria).
> Good old "titleist" will soon be over. I am dying to learn of everyone's
> identities and say "hello" properly.
I have guesses for most powers anyway. I'm sure you do as well.
Archduke Ferdinand, etcetera
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
I am available and have default orders in. I am
bascially waiting to decide on one unit.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I just wanted you to know that my plan is to eliminate
Italy, giving as much of it as I can to Russia. I
realize that this may make him pretty large. If that
makes you nervous, you can negotiate a fair transfer of
Northern territory with him.
I do not plan to purposely transfer French territory
(although I cannot prevent it indefinately) because I
wish to be close enough to the solo that you and Russia
will vote for the three-way draw.
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
>I just wanted you to know that my plan is to eliminate
>Italy, giving as much of it as I can to Russia.
Whatever you do is fine with me. I say this, because I've been reduced to
the status of bemused observer.
Not long ago, I thought you had a forced win. That was the time you had a
disappointing year and got to build three units as a
consolation. Following that, it seemed quite clear that reasonable
cooperation between Italy, Russia, and myself could halt your advance and
push you back. I told Russia repeatedly, and meant it, that once we had
reduced you a bit in numbers, then it would be safe to eliminate
Italy. For whatever reason, Russia could not bring himself to do this. It
is possible you have made promises to Russia in terms so certain that he
was comfortable with putting you back in complete control.
Now you, once again, are the proverbial 500 pound gorilla. You may do
whatever you wish. I will watch, make innocuous moves, and accept the result.
On other matters: Green Bay and the Steelers each had a wonderful
weekend. Unfortunately for each, this appears to be St Louis' year again.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I missed seeing my forced win opportunity. Then again,
tactics is not my strength.
I am not paying enough attention right now so I will
probably miss any future opportunities. I just wish to
end the game as soon as possible.
Prince Boar, Le Dauphin, Josephine, and perhaps myself
all need to go into retirement.
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
Bel-Hol, ECh C Lon-Bel, Kie-Ruh, Ber Hold, followed
by Ber S Ruh-Mun, Bel-Bur, Hol-Kie seems like it
should give you Munich this Fall. What do you think?
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>Bel-Hol, ECh C Lon-Bel, Kie-Ruh, Ber Hold, followed
>by Ber S Ruh-Mun, Bel-Bur, Hol-Kie seems like it
>should give you Munich this Fall. What do you think?
What I think is that nothing you or I do matters. Everything is in the
Prince's hands. If he wants a win, he has an easy win.
The moves that you suggest are very similar to what I was thinking of. I
will make some respectable moves and watch, bemused, to see if France walks
to victory. It is possible, I suppose, that he made promises to you in
such sincerity that he might keep them.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >Bel-Hol, ECh C Lon-Bel, Kie-Ruh, Ber Hold, followed
> >by Ber S Ruh-Mun, Bel-Bur, Hol-Kie seems like it
> >should give you Munich this Fall. What do you think?
>What I think is that nothing you or I do matters. Everything is in the
>Prince's hands. If he wants
>a win, he has an easy win.
I don't see that. He needs four Centers to win, and
he only has five Units in the Southeast corner. If
we take Munich, he'd have to hold a new Center with
every one of those Units this Fall, and not lose any,
to win. That's not going to be possible.
>I will make some respectable moves and watch,
>bemused, to see if France walks to victory.
No! I did not agree to stab Italy because I trusted
France completely. I agreed to do it because I felt
that even if he tried for the Solo, we could stop
him short of it. To do that, though, we need to
work together, and coordinate our moves. Please,
work with me here.
I've asked France to support Mos-Sev, and I'm
thinking StP-Lvn, Ukr S War-Gal. Have you heard
from Italy? Would you be willing to order Ber-Sil,
to cut Sil S Gal-War?
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>I don't see that. He needs four Centers to win, and
>he only has five Units in the Southeast corner.
For starters he can walk into Bulgaria, Constantinople and Ankara this year.
> If we take Munich, he'd have to hold a new Center with
>every one of those Units this Fall, and not lose any,
>to win.
I expect it to be impossible to take Munich. France will be ordering
Munich supp Burgundy->Ruhr & Paris->Burgundy. If he gets there, we can
forget Munich forever. I think I have to try to bounce him in Ruhr.
>No! I did not agree to stab Italy because I trusted
>France completely.
I'm a bit incredulous here. How could you stab Italy last year without
guarantees from France, when it would have been completely safe to do it
later when France was weaker?
> To do that, though, we need to
>work together, and coordinate our moves. Please,
>work with me here.
It took amazing courage to write that.
>I've asked France to support Mos-Sev, and I'm
>thinking StP-Lvn, Ukr S War-Gal. Have you heard
>from Italy?
Yes, he is doing everything in his power to help France. Consider their
moves to be coordinated until proven otherwise.
> Would you be willing to order Ber-Sil,
>to cut Sil S Gal-War?
Only if you are willing to give up Ruhr and all hope of taking
Munich. Isn't Berlin->Munich needed to cut support for Burgundy->Ruhr?
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>he can walk into Bulgaria, Constantinople and Ankara
Yes, but 16 or 17 does him no good.
>I expect it to be impossible to take Munich. France will be ordering Munich
>supp Burgundy->Ruhr & Paris->Burgundy.
He says he's ordering Bur S Mun, Tyl- my choice of
Vie or Tri to help eliminate Italy.
> >No! I did not agree to stab Italy because I trusted
> >France completely.
>I'm a bit incredulous here. How could you stab
>Italy last year without guarantees from France, when it would have been
>completely safe to do it
>later when France was weaker?
I did receive guarantees from France, and he disbanded
F Bul at my request. I did not, however, blindly
assume that France would not take Italian Centers as
they were offered to him. He may not, in which case
our job is simple, but I agreed to the stab because
I felt that we could stop him, if we had to. To me,
Diplomacy is as much about psychology as it is about
tactics, and both Italy and France were approaching
the point of being unwilling to work with me, in my
view, so I felt I had to stab Italy last Fall, while
I could still influence French moves in the Med.
> > To do that, though, we need to work together, > and coordinate our
>moves. Please,
> > work with me here.
>It took amazing courage to write that.
I am a cheeky bastard, aren't I? ;^} Honestly,
though, I don't think I've ever offered you bad
advice, and we do need to work together, if
France does try for the Solo.
> >Would you be willing to order Ber-Sil,
> >to cut Sil S Gal-War?
>Only if you are willing to give up Ruhr and all hope of taking Munich.
>Isn't Berlin->Munich
>needed to cut support for Burgundy->Ruhr?
It seems unlikely that France would lie to me about
his moves at this point. We've been in constant
communication since 1901, and formed a bond during
the early years when he was under pressure from you
and Germany, and I was under pressure from Austria
and Germany. He really seems to have lost the will
to win, though, and just wants the game to end.
Could this be an elaborate deception on his part?
I suppose so, but given that he could have leaked
my press to him to you and Italy years ago, and
gotten one or both of you to stab me, it just
doesn't seem conceivable. Tapping Sil will give
me Gal, and a supported attack on Bud, should that
prove necessary, so I think it makes sense. Also,
Italy will have to disband several Units this year,
so I should be able to move to Sil and perhaps Boh,
next year and that will let us take Mun if we fail
this year.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>He says he's ordering Bur S Mun, Tyl- my choice of
>Vie or Tri to help eliminate Italy.
Very well, I will cut Silesia.
> > > To do that, though, we need to work together, > and coordinate our
> >moves. Please,
> > > work with me here.
>
> >It took amazing courage to write that.
>
>I am a cheeky bastard, aren't I? ;^} Honestly,
>though, I don't think I've ever offered you bad
>advice,
Agreed. However, I believe that you did something truly foolish all on
your own last time. 8-)
My moves are in.
Good ol' Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>Very well, I will cut Silesia.
Thank you.
>I believe that you did something truly foolish all on your own last time.
>8-)
I grant you it was a risk, but my sense is that
France has lost the will to win, and that Italy
was not the least bit interested in being the
smallest member of a four-way draw. Additionally,
once the French Solo threat was removed, you would
have had the freedom to expand your own power-base
at my expense as I worked to eliminate Italy, and
I was concerned that you might try to go from 10
to 13 to 18 Centers. A strong France makes that
option much less attractive for you.
With Respect,
Nick.
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
My moves are in. My moves will be similar to what Russia proposed last time.
Messages from France and Russia make no sense to me. I don't know what
these guys are doing or what they want.
Ivy
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
"Capital Liberated!"
by: Alix Hesse-Darmstadt January 12, 1912
The Russian Imperial Seat was finally liberated this
Fall, after six long years of foreign occupation.
The night was filled with cheers and songs as
thousands of people filled the streets to welcome
the Czar and Tsarina back to their city.
Czar Nicholas and the Tsarina Alexandria conducted
their now traditional Christmas Council in the Grand
Library of the Winter Palace. Finance Minister Witte
urged the Czar to celebrate this victory by pushing
ahead with plans to extend the railroad Trans-Siberian
Railway, so as to not squander the excess production
capacity Russia is currently enjoying.
Union Steward V. I. Lenin urged Czar Nicholas to
concentrate his efforts on restoring the docks and
shipyards at Kronstadt and upgrading those at
Murmansk, while laying plans to restore operations
in Sevastopol as soon as possible. Not surprisingly,
Naval Commander-in-Chief, General-Admiral Genrikh
Tsyvinsky, hardily endorsed this idea.
In a reversal of his prediction from last year, which
he denied ever making, Rasputin proclaimed that with
the assistance of our loyal French allies, (the ones
he claimed would be swept away last year), the Italians
and English would be nothing more than folk-tales used
the frighten children at this time next year. Pyotr
Rachkovsky, head of the Okhrana's Foreign Bureau,
reported the French efforts to undermine the Bureau's
operation in Paris were being successfully redirected,
chiefly by engaging the French Counter-intelligence
Corps in attempts to disprove George Berkeley's
theory about the nature of reality.
Message from Italy to England
>
> My moves are in. My moves will be similar to what Russia
> proposed last time.
>
So no chance of say:
kie-ruh
ber-kie
sil-ber
gal-boh
lon-nth-hol
with the capture of Munich in the fall?
> Messages from France and Russia make no sense to me. I don't
> know what these guys are doing or what they want.
>
I believe they want a 2-way draw. Russia, in his final message to me, said
something about how you stabbed him in '07 and I stabbed him in '09. He
actually still writes 'press to om' messages that end up in the history
file. I haven't read them until this weekend but he makes mention of how
fitting the powers that took his home centers have been/will be eliminated.
England was once in STP so I don't see how this philosophy would not extend
to you.
I for one don't want to sit back and watch these guys end up with a 2-way.
France has already rejected a flat out offer to give him a solo. To me,
that leaves two choices. Make moves such that if France does not take the
solo victory, he will forever be labelled a carebear for the world to see in
the 'Showcase' game of the first VGFPT. Or, somehow figure out a way that
neither of us can be eliminated since I am positive that once I am
eliminated, FR will come after you.
One last dying effort on the part of Roberto. You never know the answer
until you ask.
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
>So no chance of say:
>
>kie-ruh
>ber-kie
>sil-ber
>gal-boh
>lon-nth-hol
>
>with the capture of Munich in the fall?
Russia claims he wants me to try for Munich in the fall! I think he is
starting to worry abut France. Kinda late for that.
I am moving to Ruhr. It will probably bounce, but I am not so sure of
Berlin->Kiel.
Also, I am going to support an attack on Belgium, apparently with Russia's
blessing.
All this is crazy.
If you want to put an army in Bohemia, then that should help with
Munich. I don't think you can take Warsaw.
> Make moves such that if France does not take the
>solo victory, he will forever be labelled a carebear for the world to see in
>the 'Showcase' game of the first VGFPT.
We already have that. If France does not solo, then titleist has a
carebear finish. Period. Not the worst thing in the world; I confess that
I carebeared a 2-way once and could do it again.
This is a hurried note. I must race outside now, for my wife is picking me
up to drive me home.
Ivy.
Message [from Italy] to Master, England, France, Italy, and Russia
Recently, gunboat was breached in this game. For fairness, if you are
interested in the details, send a non-grey press message to the remaining
four players in the game. I will respond with the details. If you are not
interested, simply press your delete key now.
Doug, I think all press relating to this issue can be permanently removed
from the record of titleist for publication purposes.
a power
Message from Master to all
usin@thekleimans.com said:
>Recently, gunboat was breached in this game. For fairness, if you are
>interested in the details, send a non-grey press message to the
>remaining four players in the game. I will respond with the details.
>If you are not interested, simply press your delete key now.
An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous. Four "yes" votes
is all it would take to make that change. Please respond by press to
m for that one.
Doug
PS: Are there any players who don't know some/all the other identities
by this point in the game? Some by mistake, some by logical reasoning,
etc. . .
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
>An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous.
It is probably best.
>Are there any players who don't know some
I know two.
France
Message from Italy to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
>
> >Are there any players who don't know some
>
I do not know who any of the other players are.
Italy
Message from England to all
>An alternative is to simply switch to non-anonymous.
It doesn't matter to me, one way or another.
> Are there any players who don't know some/all the other identities
>by this point in the game?
I think I know who France is. If I am correct, he is a total stranger to
me whom I have never played before. I have no idea about any others,
except I think Russia and I played in a previous game.
Ivy
Message from Russia to Master, England, France, and Italy
> >Are there any players who don't know some
I know two, counting me.
Russia
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
One simple way to settle the entire gunboat issue is to set draw. I am
doing so now.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
I have cleared my draw so it is not so rushed. We can take care of that
in the fall if necessary.
I just did not want you to think that some game was being played when it
did not pass.
Sorry for the mess
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
Hooray for the Steelers, Hooray for the Packers!
The Rams winning should not concern you, the Steelers do not have to go
through the Trans World Dome, or whatever they call it. I was cheering
for the Rams, but should have cheered for the 49ers. If the Packers are
the #2 seed, they would have better luck playing in SF on grass and in
the elements (wimpy though they may be) than on the turf in a dome.
I have the Steelers Kicker on my team. Can you go talk to him and make
certain that he stops missing so many FGs and for goodness sake, no
missed extra points! :-)
Thanks,
Prince Boar
PS: I will be curious as to what gave my identity away? I have a
guess. I have a guess for your identity as well, but both these must be
reserved until gunboat is removed.
England: Army Berlin → Silesia (*bounce*)
England: Fleet English Channel CONVOY Army London → Belgium
England: Fleet Irish Sea SUPPORT Fleet English Channel
England: Army Kiel → Ruhr
England: Army London → English Channel → Belgium
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Army London → Belgium
France: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Smyrna → Constantinople
France: Army Albania → Serbia
France: Fleet Brest SUPPORT Army Paris → Picardy
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Munich
France: Army Marseilles → Piedmont
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Munich SUPPORT Italian Army Silesia (*void*)
France: Army Paris → Picardy (*bounce*)
France: Army Picardy → Belgium (*bounce*)
France: Army Rumania SUPPORT Army Albania → Serbia
France: Fleet Smyrna → Constantinople
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) SUPPORT Fleet Western Mediterranean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Tyrolia → Vienna (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Black Sea → Sevastopol (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Constantinople → Aegean Sea (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Army Galicia → Vienna (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Army Silesia → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Belgium → Holland
Russia: Army Moscow → Sevastopol (*bounce*)
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Livonia
Russia: Army Trieste → Serbia (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Army Warsaw → Galicia
Russia: Army Warsaw → Galicia
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