|
|
France: Builds 2 units
Italy: Removes 1 unit
Russia: Builds 3 units
Turkey: Removes 1 unit
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
Oh well, I guess that you are not available. I hope that you arranged
things well in the North. In the South I have no choice but to do what
I must do to insure that Italy ends up with as few centers as possible.
This may not be the optimum, but it is the best that I can do. It is
certainly not even foolproof, but the best option. I sure hope that you
are taking Warsaw.
--Xavier
Message from England to Italy and Russia
Please friends, stay calm. Don't write that note. We were less
coordinated that we could have been, but let's stick together. He cannot
get 18 if we do, and we should be able to reduce him.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
I think the west went quite well. I am in Picardy, but at least France
didn't move to the Channel. The best part was the destruction of Holland.
I thought he would either take Kiel or counter our move with
Holland->Belgium.
Italy will be furious over the move to Warsaw. He had stated that his
moves would change if he was going to lose Warsaw. However, the mixup
would not have happened had he been in communication earlier than today.
There is only so much that can be expected of us at the last minute. We
have other responsibilities, families, etc.
I hope that we don't get into an open argument over this.
Ivy
Message from Italy to Russia
> Russia: Army Livonia -> Warsaw.
I'm trying not to overreact but is there an explanation for this move that
I'm not aware of (other than you wanted your home center back)?
Message from England to Italy
Idalia, (Roberto?)
I really don't attribute Livonia->Warsaw to malice or deception. Russia's
press today was hurried and not always consistent. I had unusual
difficulty coordinating the western moves with him.
I know that you clearly stated that your moves would differ if you were
going to lose Warsaw. I don't think that Nick picked up on this.
I saw the problem coming and tried to step in. But there is only so much
that can be expected of us at the last minute. We have other
responsibilities, families, etc.
I really think that Warsaw was an honest error.
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
> I am very worried that there is going to be an accidental
> misunderstanding between the two of you on what is happening or not >
happening in Warsaw this turn.
Accidental? I'm not 100% sure of that.
Unless I can get a decent explanation for Russia's move, the two of you may
not like my disband.
It's always a dangerous situation when the Italian has to disband because
you just never know what unit he'll pull next. It could be Serbia. It
could be Smyrna. Maybe Rumania would be a good choice.
Idalia
Message from Italy to England
>
> I really think that Warsaw was an honest error.
>
How can you say that? I specifically asked him/you what I should do with
Silesia. He responded with 'Sil s Mun' or the hypothetical Sil-Tyl. That
seemed perfectly clear to me. Where's the gray area? What unit did he
expect me to move to Warsaw for the supposed bounce?
Note, I gave him/you my moves and yet he never gave me his and yet used my
moves against me to take Warsaw. Russia should consider himself lucky if I
ever discuss tactics with him again this game.
I honestly think Russia thinks he'll be awarded second place by having the
second most units when France solos. Either that, or he's still maneuvering
to eliminate me. Either way, we'll both end up losing.
I believe I have a right to be upset this turn regardless of the poor
communication this turn because the only truly necessary communication this
turn (Sil and Gal) was perfectly clear on this end (and I believe perfectly
clear on the other end as well).
Still Idalia (Roberto is the sane, even-tempered one)
Message from Russia to France
Sorry for being out of touch before the deadline, my wife wanted the
PC. If it's any comfort, England didn't want to be in Pic, you're
building two, and Italy is annoyed about Lvn-War. I just woke up
and read my mail, and looked at the results so I have no analysis to
offer at this point.
(The Russian player backspaces over his real name.8-)
Message from Russia to England and Italy
Gentlemen,
I'm sorry about the confusion over Warsaw and the fact that I was out
of touch before the last couple of hours before the deadline. My wife
had some things to do on the PC and my son need help with his
homework. (This is the down-side of not beginning negotiations until
twelve hours before the deadline. Sometimes, not everything gets
settled.)
In talking to Ivy after dinner, I decided that Lvn-War made more
sense with Gal-Vie, and Sev left open, and then I had to go offline.
Hopefully Roberto will not be quite as busy as Idalia has been, now
that the Turk has been eliminated. I will build A Mos, and move
Mos-Ukr, and almost certainly, War-Gal.
Nick.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >It has been pointed out to me that once I devise a plan, it's nearly
> >impossible to get me to change my mind, and that tends to annoy people.
> >So,I've been striving to allow my allies to formulate the plans, and then
> >offer alternatives. ;^} It doesn't seem to be working, though... 8-)
>
> Isn't this how marriages break up? "You're not the person I married."
"A woman marries a man, thinking that he will change, and a man marries
a woman thinking she will never change, both end up disappointed." ;^}
I really am trying to take a less demanding tone, though.
> **********
>
> > I'll change to Lvn-War with this letter.
>
> Gulp! That's fine with me, but please let's not surprise Italy with this.
> Does he know?
I really didn't do it to punish him for waiting until the last minute, but I
did feel that if anyone had to disband it should be him. (Well, ok,
France, Turkey, and then Italy, but you get the point. 8-) Hopefully,
Roberto won't be too annoyed. (His letter to me was more of a "Huh?
I thought...", rather than a, "You Devil! I'm throwing the game to
France now!", so I think we'll be ok.)
Nick.
Message from Russia to all
I'm Setting Wait to give us all a chance to write EoY reports, newspaper
articles, ESPN Philosophy Bowl coverage, etc.
Russia.
Message from France to Russia
Nick:
>If it's any comfort, England didn't want to be in Pic
We could have prevent it if you had told me the plan.
For what it is worth, I do not want him in Picardy
either. We are very close to the point where my defense
is cracked and I start handing over centers to Ivy, to
hasten his victory and get this thing over with.
In the south, you will have to do something about Italy
immediately or else he will be impossible to eliminate.
I best end this letter now, before I type something that
I wish I hadn't. As I indicated in my notes last night.
People around me, perhaps me, will have far bigger
problems than a diplomacy game.
If I proposed the 4-way draw, would everyone vote for it?
--Prince Boar
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
Today is layoff day at work. I will most likely get my
adjustments in by tonight, but my eoy messages will have
to wait. Right now there are more important concerns.
France
Message from Russia to France
>Message from France:
>Today is layoff day at work. I will most likely get my
>adjustments in by tonight, but my eoy messages will have
>to wait. Right now there are more important concerns.
Roger,
My thoughts will be with you, and I hope things
turn out alright for you. If you want to propose
a 4-way, go ahead. My suspicion is that England
and/or Italy would vote no, but I could be wrong.
Actually, I could propose it, if you'd like. It
would serve to cover our plans to eliminate Italy
to a certain extent. No rush on responding.
Good Luck,
The Russian Player whose name you know, but
who isn't supposed to use it here.
Message from Master to all
Farewell to Turkey, and thank you for playing. If you have time, please
submit by 'press to m' and End-of-game statement for the sake of posterity.
As I've mentioned before, 'titleist' will eventually be a Showcase game
and the readers will no doubt be interested in your take on the game.
Actually, if you prefer, you could broadcast your EOG instead -- it's
up to you. And I'll encourage everyone to add their comments at the
end of the game, as well.
Thanks, again,
Doug
Message from Master to all
Farewell to Turkey, and thank you for playing. If you have time, please
submit by 'press to m' and End-of-game statement for the sake of posterity.
As I've mentioned before, 'titleist' will eventually be a Showcase game
and the readers will no doubt be interested in your take on the game.
Actually, if you prefer, you could broadcast your EOG instead -- it's
up to you. And I'll encourage everyone to add their comments at the
end of the game, as well.
Thanks, again,
Doug
Message from Observer to Observer
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
vgfp_titleist group:
Okay, Turkey is the third power to
depart. He didn't give many clues to
his identity over the course of the game
-- can you guess who he is by process of
elimination?
o Allen Schweinsberg
o Ken Lofgren
o Jeff Stephens
o Eric Hunter
o Roger Yonkoski
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vgfp_titleist/polls
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
Message from Italy to England and Russia
For the record, if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
likely support French units against ER forces.
For now, I'll disband Armenia (unless somebody has a better idea) and move
forward.
Idalia
Message from England to Master
Doug,
My End of Year for 1910.
*************************
Briefly, 1910 was a year in which Russia, Italy and, myself tried to
coordinate moves to stop France from winning. From the position on the
board it seems obvious that this can be done. Simple enough, it would
seem, although there is some tricky guessing involved.
Unfortunately, the year ended with Russia moving into Warsaw when he
explicitly said he was not going to do this. Italy has to remove a unit,
and he is justifiably upset. Russia, for his part, is frustrated with
Italy's inability to communicate until the day of the deadline.
Can I keep these two guys on board? It's tough.
Allen
Message from Russia to England and Italy
>Message from Italy to England and Russia in 'titleist':
>
>if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
>SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
>likely support French units against ER forces.
Noted, without comment.
>I'll disband Armenia (unless somebody has a better idea) and move forward.
Hmmm, Sil or Arm seem like the the obvious candidates.
I should be able to fill the War-Sil-Ber line though,
and I believe we need four Units to hold Turkey, don't
we? So, Sil seems like the better choice to me.
Nick.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
>Message from Italy to England and Russia in 'titleist':
>
>if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
>SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
>likely support French units against ER forces.
This means I can take Rum and Ser right? ;^}
Nick.
Message from England to France
>Today is layoff day at work.
Does that mean what I think it means? Are you secure?
Ivy
Message from England to Italy
>Accidental? I'm not 100% sure of that.
Neither am I. Given Russia's hurried and confused communication with me
yesterday, I prefer to believe it was a mistake.
>How can you say that? I specifically asked him/you what I should do with
>Silesia. He responded with 'Sil s Mun' or the hypothetical Sil-Tyl. That
>seemed perfectly clear to me. Where's the gray area? What unit did he
>expect me to move to Warsaw for the supposed bounce?
It's a little worse than that, because he specifically said at one point
that he was not going to take Warsaw. Then I got a message discussing
western strategy in which he seemed to be assuming that he would have a new
unit in Warsaw. That's when I sent out the late message to try to avert
what happened.
>Russia should consider himself lucky if I
>ever discuss tactics with him again this game.
There's no way to punish him without slitting our own throats. At least
not while France is this size. Maddening.
>I honestly think Russia thinks he'll be awarded second place ...
Second place? Who cares about second place if there is a solo?
I know I can't win. I can accept a draw in certain circumstances, but I've
never accepted a 4-way before. I have to admit that I might be tempted in
this game. It's starting to wear on me.
>I believe I have a right to be upset this turn
I'm upset too. At the late stages of a game in which a unified defense is
necessary, anything that injures one party puts the whole endeavor at risk.
>Still Idalia (Roberto is the sane, even-tempered one)
The real you, I presume.
>for the record, if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
>SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
>likely support French units against ER forces.
At some point, probably if Russia moves to Sevastopol, I'll join you in
that endeavor. Russia did once promise me he would not touch Sevastopol --
in response to my subtle warning about likely Italian reaction.
>For now, I'll disband Armenia (unless somebody has a better idea) and move
>forward.
Probably best.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
>Does that mean what I think it means? Are you secure?
Thanks for asking. I expect to be OK, but I will not
know for sure until the end of the day.
France
Message from Italy to England and Russia
>
> Hmmm, Sil or Arm seem like the the obvious candidates.
> I should be able to fill the War-Sil-Ber line though,
> and I believe we need four Units to hold Turkey, don't
> we? So, Sil seems like the better choice to me.
>
Depends what our goal is. If we just want to setup a stalemate line and
accept a 4-way draw and give France the tournament, then yes Silesia is the
correct choice. If, however, our goal is to push France back and continue
this game with 4 relatively equal powers, then Armenia is the correct choice
since I would need to get back to my home centers for this goal to be a
valid one. Armenia has (is there a smaller positive number below zero) no
chance of reaching Italian soil again. At least Silesia has hope for that
one day.
Then, there is what England said, which I think is a mighty fine idea.
No longer Idalia but not quite Roberto yet so I think I'll just sign this
message...........
Italy
Message from Russia to England and Italy
>Message from Italy to England and Russia in 'titleist':
>
> > Hmmm, Sil or Arm seem like the obvious candidates.
> > I should be able to fill the War-Sil-Ber line though,
> > and I believe we need four Units to hold Turkey, don't
> > we? So, Sil seems like the better choice to me.
>
> Depends what our goal is. If we just want to setup a
> stalemate line and accept a 4-way draw and give France
> the tournament, then yes Silesia is the correct choice.
> If, however, our goal is to push France back and continue
> this game with 4 relatively equal powers, then Armenia
> is the correct choice since I would need to get back
> to my home centers for this goal to be a valid one.
> Armenia has no chance of reaching Italian soil again.
> At least Silesia has hope for that one day.
Yes, but I vote for establishing the stalemate line,
first, (France IS at 14 Centers, after all.), and then
trying to push Ser-Ven, since Serbia is even closer
than Sil.
Nick.
Message from Russia to Master and Observer
Russian EoY for 1910:
I hesitate to say that things are looking up, since
the Laws of Karma have played me like a Duncan Yo-Yo
in this game, but 1910 was a good year for Russia. I
took four Centers (three French, one Italian) with
my four Units, and only lost one. My one Home Center
means I'll have two unused builds again this year,
but I will FINALLY build my fifth Unit.
I find it ironic that France is threatening to throw
the game to England if I continue to support the
English attack on France, and Italy is threatening
to throw the game to France if I retake Sevastopol.
I still have the fewest Units on the board, and yet
I'm not the one threatening to throw the game.
*shrug* Will either one actually do it? Hard to
say, but Italy at least does have a reasonable motive,
since if I retake Sev, I do have the potential to
eliminate him.
Will I be able to build two next year? I don't
know. Depending on which Army Italy disbands, I
could lose Vie, Mun and Berlin in 1911. France is
talking about a 4-way Draw, but I have to think
that is an attempt to lull me into a mistake.
Nick.
Message from Russia to France
Xavier,
> >If it's any comfort, England didn't want to be in Pic
> We could have prevent it if you had told me the plan.
He wasn't sure he was going to order it when I had to log off last night.
I reccomended against it since he said he didn't want to be there, but I
guess he decided Pic S Hol-Bel, Ruh-Kie was you most likely move.
> For what it is worth, I do not want him in Picardy
> either. We are very close to the point where my defense
> is cracked and I start handing over centers to Ivy, to
> hasten his victory and get this thing over with.
You're at 14 Centers, 14 Units; I'm at 7 Centers and 5 Units. If you
choose to throw the game to England, I can't stop you, but as a threat
it has little meaning to me, since it's STILL easier for you to Solo than
it is for you to throw the game to England. If you really want to throw
the game, throw it to me. 8-) At this point it would be almost as easy
as throwing it to England. You'll retake Pic this Spring, and probably
destroy his Fleet in the process, so I don't see that your defense is
appreciably weakened.
> In the south, you will have to do something about Italy
> immediately or else he will be impossible to eliminate.
Italy's response to my move to War was to threaten to throw the
game to you if I take Sev. I will not be able to attack Italy this year,
but we should be able to continue our coordination there.
> If I proposed the 4-way draw, would everyone vote for it?
Italy is talking about disbanding Arm, rather than Sil because he wants
to try to get one or more of his Home Centers back with Sil. My pointing
out that we needed a fourth Unit in Turkey to lock down that end of the
stalemate line carried no weight. I suspect, therefore, that he meant what
he said when he told me he wouldn't set draw unless he had the lead in
the Center count. I'm not sure about Ivy.
Your Friend,
Nick.
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
France: BUILD Army Paris
Italy: REMOVE Army Armenia
Russia: BUILD Army Moscow
Russia: WAIVE
Russia: WAIVE
Turkey: REMOVE Fleet Black Sea (*no order*)
Centers
England: 7
France: 14
Italy: 6
Russia: 7
|