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Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> Gist of it is, I'd prefer the build, but as long as you build an army,
> it won't bother me too much.
No problem. It allows me to replace it with another Austrian dot, and its
only one season, you get it next year.
thanks Jason...appreciate you understanding.
Andy
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
you are going to ARM this season....right?
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
> you are going to ARM this season....right?
If you examine my moves for the last two seasons, I think you can see that
planning on me making sound tactical moves on my own is dangerous assumption.
Can you spell out the picture you are imagining in greater detail?
Specifically, are you planning to support me to Bud from Ser? If I had the
army in Rum as anticipated I'd suggest trying for Bul from Rum, but without a
fleet to tap Bla, that won't succeed. Are you going to take Aeg or Eas and
Ion? Etc.
Thanks,
--- Eric
Message from Master to all
Players,
I'm extending the deadline by a week at a player's request.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
> > you are going to ARM this season....right?
>
> If you examine my moves for the last two seasons, I think you can see that
> planning on me making sound tactical moves on my own is dangerous assumption.
Well...I hadnt noticed taht they were that bad, but since you mention it,
I am now asking you if you are making the sound tactical move...and going
to ARM.
> Can you spell out the picture you are imagining in greater detail?
Part of this we need to talk about.
> Specifically, are you planning to support me to Bud from Ser?
Not immediately, I am supporting ION - GRE since I dont trust the Turk NOT
to support himself there.
I would support you to BUD next year.
If I had the
> army in Rum as anticipated I'd suggest trying for Bul from Rum, but without a
> fleet to tap Bla, that won't succeed. Are you going to take Aeg or Eas and
> Ion? Etc.
No....I am going to hold onto Greece.
You could get an army to RUM and get sound tactical positioning by
SEV - ARM
RUM - SEV
GAL s UKR - RUM
UKR - RUM
How do you see this playing out, and remember you are already 2 centers
ahead of me .
take care
Andy
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Did Erik mention to you a bounce in WES?
Happy Thanksgiving.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> Did Erik mention to you a bounce in WES?
>
No...
Should I expect one.
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> > Did Erik mention to you a bounce in WES?
> >
>
> No...
>
> Should I expect one.
Maybe. If (a) you go to WES and (b) he goes to WES.
Right now I'd lay even money on (a) and (b), both.
I would rather you get the jump on him than the other way around, but he
hasn't told me anything directly.
Ben
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
Word is that you are coming to WES....
is this the case
Andy
Message from Italy to Turkey
Jason,
You have been getting mighty quiet again, are we good.
What do you see as the plan?
Andy
Message from France to all
Folks --
Sorry if I haven't been responding to press, but I was away for
Thanksgiving. My girlfriend's parents don't have dial-up, much less
broadband, so I was kind of in the stone ages for a few days there. I will
get back to you all later today.
Erik
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
*yawn*
When was the last time you heard from Eric/Russia? Is he the one who is
away?
Ben
Message from Italy to England
I havent heard from Eric since Saturday.
I am the one on the road.
I will be back on Thursday. I didnt think I would have connectivity here,
but I do.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
> > Specifically, are you planning to support me to Bud from Ser?
>
>Not immediately, I am supporting ION - GRE since I dont trust the Turk NOT
>to support himself there.
>
>I would support you to BUD next year.
Right. That was not meant as a demand, since clearly supporting me to Bud
and keeping Jason from taking Gre are mutually exclusive. I was just trying
to understand the bigger picture. Jason not getting Gre is a good thing.
And last thing he told me about Gre he was planning to support himself
there anyway.
>You could get an army to RUM and get sound tactical positioning by
>
>SEV - ARM
>RUM - SEV
>GAL s UKR - RUM
>UKR - RUM
>
>How do you see this playing out, and remember you are already 2 centers
>ahead of me.
Details, details. :)
Seriously, I'd think a split of something like Tri, Bul for you, Vie, Bud
for me. You should be able to get Tri with or without my help next year as
I take Bud. Then I could focus on Vie, and breaking the defense and/or
supporting you into Bul. From there we'd probably split Turkey 2/1, with me
taking Ank. That's a stable arrangement if we go forward looking at 3way
possibilities. If we are looking at 2 ways, then we'll have to look at
different arrangements of the southern dots. The way things look now, this
leaves me up one on you, but depending on how things go, you may end up
going up one while I go down one anyway, so that center difference you
refer to may be ephemeral. If I'm doing really well in the north, then we
can look at other arrangements, but we'll need something that gives us each
a semblance of defensible lines.
Is that the kind of response you are looking for?
--- Eric
Message from Turkey to Italy
Sorry about that, what with the deadline extended, I figured we'd have
something new to talk about by now. :-)
I think you expressed the plan that you keep Ser and Gre this turn,
allowing you to keep the pressure on Austria. I keep holding back Russia.
Next year, I get Gre, you move east, and you and Russia end up splitting
up Austria (at least, I assume that's what will happen). I'll obviously
need to retake Rum at some point in all this to keep Russia honest.
Does that sound about right?
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
> Does that sound about right?
>
Sounds perfect....excellent
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Right. That was not meant as a demand, since clearly supporting me to Bud
> and keeping Jason from taking Gre are mutually exclusive. I was just trying
> to understand the bigger picture. Jason not getting Gre is a good thing.
> And last thing he told me about Gre he was planning to support himself
> there anyway.
>
Then I would ask you to hit Bul for me.
Rum - Bul
Sev - ARM
GAL s UKR - RUM
UKR - RUM
protects up both.
> Details, details. :)
Yeah....:-)
>
> Seriously, I'd think a split of something like Tri, Bul for you, Vie, Bud
> for me. You should be able to get Tri with or without my help next year as
> I take Bud. Then I could focus on Vie, and breaking the defense and/or
> supporting you into Bul. From there we'd probably split Turkey 2/1, with me
> taking Ank. That's a stable arrangement if we go forward looking at 3way
> possibilities.
I agree with all of this.
If we are looking at 2 ways, then we'll have to look at
> different arrangements of the southern dots. The way things look now, this
> leaves me up one on you, but depending on how things go, you may end up
> going up one while I go down one anyway, so that center difference you
> refer to may be ephemeral. If I'm doing really well in the north, then we
> can look at other arrangements, but we'll need something that gives us each
> a semblance of defensible lines.
> Is that the kind of response you are looking for?
Yes...very much so...thank you
Andy
Message from France to Italy
Andy:
My apologies for the silence. I've been laid up with the flu all week. I am
just starting to feel normal again.
I am most certainly not coming to Wes, and I would hope that you're not,
either. Why would I start anything with you when I've got my hands full
with EGR?
Erik
Message from Italy to France
> My apologies for the silence. I've been laid up with the flu all week. I am
> just starting to feel normal again.
>
> I am most certainly not coming to Wes, and I would hope that you're not,
> either. Why would I start anything with you when I've got my hands full
> with EGR?
I dont know either but G and R are telling me that you are coming for me.
Message from Italy to Turkey
Jason,
I am not sure what your relationship with Russia is, but it appears that
you and he have been slowly burying the hatchet, and he is getting at
least one build up north, maybe 2 if the English get sloppy. And he is
begging me to attack you, or support him to attack you. WHICH WILL NOT
HAPPEN.
I have been looking at the map, and if I am Russia, my moves are;
SEV - ARM
RUM - BUL (which he thinks I am supporting him to)
UKR - RUM
GAL s UKR - RUm
It leaves SEV for a build an gets me position on you all over the place,
while Italy twists in the wind aginst Austria.
protect yourself, or hell...move on him...he is getting way too big
anyway.
take care
Andy
Message from Turkey to Italy
Thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure to cover myself.
jason
Message from France to Italy
Would you like to bounce in Wes, then? It's a sure way of keeping the
peace.
Erik
Message from Italy to France
>
> Would you like to bounce in Wes, then? It's a sure way of keeping the
> peace.
Actually NO...I dont want to.
I have much bigger problems than that.
Message from Italy to Italy
Here we go again.
France will move to the Western Med, and then make some lame ass excuse
about how he didnt believe me
that is my gut feeling, especially after this little note.
Message from France to Italy
>
> Actually NO...I dont want to.
>
> I have much bigger problems than that.
What kind of problems? Frankly, a bounce in Wes works well for me, so I'd
kind of like to know what you need your fleets for.
Erik
Message from Italy to France
>
>
> What kind of problems? Frankly, a bounce in Wes works well for me, so I'd
> kind of like to know what you need your fleets for.
>
ION - GRE
TUN - ION
is what my fleets are doing.
Please dont go to WES.
Message from Italy to England
Yeah....Erik is coming for me.
But there isnt a thing in the world I can do about it.
He is basically going to collapse my position, so that the Russian attack
on Turkey goes off like clockwork and it collapses my position, the
Russian will be at probably 12 or so by 05'.
I would urge you to tell him that this is a foolish way to go.
thanks
Andy
Message from Italy to Italy
I am once again showing too much of my hand. Especially if England and
France are working together.
But Ben will probably heed my warning.
Andy
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Your Pitkisser colleague Doug Moore just soloed in '07 in Oobleck, on DEDO. As Russia.
> Yeah....Erik is coming for me.
I thought he might be. :-(
> But there isnt a thing in the world I can do about it.
Hm. I know I've offered before & you haven't taken me up on it - if you need me to pass something along to one of your neighbors in the East, let me know. Particularly with regards to Austria, I may be able to bend his ear, though I don't think he would do anything obviously pro-Italian.
> He is basically going to collapse my position, so that the Russian attack
> on Turkey goes off like clockwork and it collapses my position, the
> Russian will be at probably 12 or so by 05'.
Ah. I should introduce him to Doug.
> I would urge you to tell him that this is a foolish way to go.
I will try.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
Ben,
> Your Pitkisser colleague Doug Moore just soloed in '07 in Oobleck, on
DEDO. As Russia.
>
And a great guy. Im not surprised at all.
> > Yeah....Erik is coming for me.
> I thought he might be. :-(
He keeps making allusions toward wanting a bounce, and I have told him
catagorically that I dont want the bounce, but I know he will interpret
that as I am lying to him, and he will be going to WES.
> > But there isnt a thing in the world I can do about it.
> Hm. I know I've offered before & you haven't taken me up on it - if
you need me to pass something along to one of your neighbors in the
East, let me know. Particularly with regards to Austria, I may be able
to bend his ear, though I don't think he would do anything obviously
pro-Italian.
>
Make sure the Turk knows I am working with him.
> > He is basically going to collapse my position, so that the Russian attack
> > on Turkey goes off like clockwork and it collapses my position, the
> > Russian will be at probably 12 or so by 05'.
> Ah. I should introduce him to Doug.
Yeah.
>
> > I would urge you to tell him that this is a foolish way to go.
> I will try.
thanks
Andy
Message from England to Italy
> Make sure the Turk knows I am working with him.
I will write him. Good plan; I will let you know what he says.
Ben
Message from Russia to Italy
All he's given me about his plans was about the Spring moves, and that all
turned out to be false anyway. I would not be surprised to see him try to
keep Gre from Jason (thereby losing Ser) but I would not be stunned to see
him try to take Tri, either.
He's not asked for any specific supports from me for the Fall, but that just
means that he's not trying to take Bud off of you for the moment.
Sorry, I know that's really not much information, but that's all I've got for
now.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Italy
Whoops!
Clearly that was not a message meant for you.
Philippe had asked what you were up to, and I was trying to be coy in
response. But I meant it to be in response to him, not to you, obviously.
--- Eric
Austria: Fleet Adriatic Sea → Trieste
Austria: Army Budapest SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria → Serbia
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Fleet Adriatic Sea → Trieste
England: Fleet Denmark → Kiel
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Fleet Skagerrak → Denmark
England: Fleet Skagerrak → Denmark
France: Army Belgium SUPPORT Army Holland (*cut*)
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Belgium
France: Army Holland SUPPORT Army Belgium (*cut*)
France: Fleet Marseilles → Spain (south coast)
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Irish Sea
France: Army Paris → Gascony
Germany: Army Berlin → Silesia (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Helgoland Bight → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel SUPPORT Fleet Helgoland Bight → Holland (*cut, destroyed*)
Germany: Army Munich → Silesia (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Ruhr → Belgium (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Greece (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Rome → Venice
Italy: Army Serbia SUPPORT Fleet Ionian Sea → Greece (*cut, dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT English Fleet Denmark → Kiel
Russia: Army Galicia → Bohemia
Russia: Army Norway → Sweden
Russia: Fleet Rumania HOLD
Russia: Army Sevastopol SUPPORT Fleet Rumania
Russia: Army Silesia → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Ukraine → Galicia
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea → Greece (*bounce*)
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Serbia
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
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