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Message from England to France
Erik -
We'll be ok.
I would like to set up the line. I'll be a lot happier when that's done.
Sorry for being harsh before.
Ben
Message from Turkey to France
Looks like Andy is doing his best to punish you for your advance. I'm
hoping that EF pressure on the north will thwart that. The more you guys
push him back in the north, the less he'll be able to work with Andy in
the south.
jason
Message from Russia to France
Erik,
Well, it's an interesting call. I'm certainly worried about Ben, as it
sounds like you are. He's actually in a decent position to move against
both of us. Actually, even if you get a build I'm not sure that's enough to
hold out against him. With a build in Lon, he can force both MAO and Eng
really quickly.
To be completely frank, the problem with moving against Andy is that Andy
is not just nicely not bothering me in the Balkans, he's keeping Jason
focused west as well. If I attack Andy, he probably retreats to Tyl, then
attacks me in coordination with Jason (as they were doing just two turns
ago). Hmm. The more I look at it the more Ben's position looks really good
to me.
So other than (or in addition to) getting you a build in the south, what
can we do to really put some pressure on Ben in the north?
--- Eric
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
I can certainly appreciate your desire to keep Andy around; in your
position, I'd do the same, and at least you're being honest with me.
Better to have him occupying Jason (and, while you obviously can't admit
this, me) then collpasing and leaving Jason and I with more centers.
Nevertheless, I really need a build to do anything against Ben, so even if
you could be so bold as to not lend support to Venice, I'd appreciate it.
Otherwise, things could start getting real stagnant real soon -- Ben and I
will both be holding the line and unable to move off of it.
I've been trying to build a fleet in Bre for years but unable to justify
it. Ben's going to get Sweden this turn, but his growth will slow after
that, and he's going to have to keep himself extended to deal with you
effectively. If I can get one build and reduce Italy enough to pull other
fleets away from down South, maybe I can finally make a grab for Hol /
Lon.
Otherwise, I'd say your best bet is to defend St. Petersburg and deal with
Turkey sooner rather than later.
Erik
Message from France to England
Ben:
So given that you're relatively relaxed, what do you think about moves for
this turn? I guess we don't need a whole lot of coordination. I've been
chatting with Eric, trying to convince him to focus on Turkey, not support
Ven, and imply some lingering dischored between us.
Erik
Message from France to Turkey
Yes, I kind of figured Andy would come charging out. In any case, I'm sorry
that it had the net effect of losing you Bulgaria. At this point, I'd
recommend one of two things:
1.) Use everything to try to get Bulgaria back (he could slip up or assume
you've given up on it)
2.) Support Arm or Ukr to Sev, under the assumption that he might try to
bounce himself to leave that space open for a build (which he could get if
he grabbed Trieste).
Erik
Message from France to England
It's a longshot, but can you support Bur - Mun just in case?
Erik
Message from England to France
Erik -
> So given that you're relatively relaxed, what do you think about moves for
> this turn? I guess we don't need a whole lot of coordination. I've been
> chatting with Eric, trying to convince him to focus on Turkey, not support
> Ven, and imply some lingering dischored between us.
Hm. I don't suppose Eric dropped any clues about STP - as you said, a
guessing game.
I'd been planning some kind of guess for STP; it's only a matter of time,
if I guess wrong.
What are you hearing from Eric about VEN? He claims he's not angry at me &
is pleasant enough in his press - I could write him about it. I won't
unless I hear from you.
Sorry I hadn't written more - I was working all weekend & hadn't given my
moves much thought.
I decided not to mention RUH in this press, because if I did, I'd be
beating a dead horse; no doubt you are as aware as I am that you need to
*go there* finally. So I'm not mentioning it in this press.
Ben
Message from England to France
> It's a longshot but can you support Bur - Mun just in case?
Sure.
Ben
Message from France to England
> Hm. I don't suppose Eric dropped any clues about STP - as you said, a
> guessing game.
Nothing. Eric's been very good about keeping us all in the dark this game
without being offensive ("no, I won't tell you anything about my moves,
jerk") about it. He was at least honest enough to tell me that he'll be
using Andy for everything he's worth. This means he may not attack
Trieste, which may mean no build for Russia. Or maybe he didn't want to
give me a tool to bait Andy into reconsidering his planned suicide.
As I said, I think Nwy - StP with support from Barents is the best plan. If
he bounces you, it's because he ordered some combination of Fin / Mos to
StP with support from the other, and that means Moscow doesn't move to
Livonia. As long as Ukr doesn't move to War, we'll have more time to shore
up the Mun / Ber line.
> What are you hearing from Eric about VEN? He claims he's not angry at
> me &
> is pleasant enough in his press - I could write him about it. I won't
> unless I hear from you.
Yes, he's always pleasant. Nothing specific to Venice, though I haven't
heard back from my last plea to let me take it (the justification being
that I need a build in Bre to defend against you).
I told Jason he should either try to take Bulgaria back or else support Ukr
or Arm into Sev, given that Eric might try to self-bounce there to leave
it open for a build.
>
> I decided not to mention RUH in this press, because if I did, I'd be
> beating a dead horse; no doubt you are as aware as I am that you need to
> *go there* finally. So I'm not mentioning it in this press.
Thank you for not mentioning it. I am indeed aware, but if you had reminded
me, I might have gotten paranoid and decided you were up to something.
Erik
Message from England to France
Erik -
> He was at least honest enough to tell me that he'll be
> using Andy for everything he's worth.
This means to me, he will be supporting VEN so you can fight Italy while he
extinguishes Turkey.
> As I said, I think Nwy - StP with support from Barents is the best plan.
If
> he bounces you, it's because he ordered some combination of Fin / Mos to
> StP with support from the other, and that means Moscow doesn't move to
> Livonia. As long as Ukr doesn't move to War, we'll have more time to shore
> up the Mun / Ber line.
I was leaning toward the supported attack on STP. It can't hurt.
> > What are you hearing from Eric about VEN? He claims he's not angry at
> > me &
> > is pleasant enough in his press - I could write him about it. I won't
> > unless I hear from you.
>
> Yes, he's always pleasant. Nothing specific to Venice, though I haven't
> heard back from my last plea to let me take it (the justification being
> that I need a build in Bre to defend against you).
Ok, I'll just keep quiet.
> I told Jason he should either try to take Bulgaria back or else support
Ukr
> or Arm into Sev, given that Eric might try to self-bounce there to leave
> it open for a build.
Or use UKR to cover SEV while reclaiming BLA.
> > I decided not to mention RUH in this press, because if I did, I'd be
> > beating a dead horse; no doubt you are as aware as I am that you need to
> > *go there* finally. So I'm not mentioning it in this press.
>
> Thank you for not mentioning it. I am indeed aware, but if you had
reminded
> me, I might have gotten paranoid and decided you were up to something.
Hm. It's for the best that I didn't say anything then.
Ben
Message from Master to all
Players,
I'm extending the deadline due to a player's request.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from Germany to all
> I'm extending the deadline due to a player's request.>
This wasn't me. The last request I made was to have
the game reset to S1901M and it was refused.
I therefor no longer submit requests ;-)
Message from Russia to France
Hey Erik,
I'm way behind on press -- the extension is on my behalf.
I've only had a chance to scan over the press, so I hope I'm not missing
anything. I think for this season I need to keep Andy happy. Next year I
don't see any reason why I can't jump him, but even going down two, if he and
Jason combine, I'm not seeing how I can hold any line, north or south.
I may well be overlooking something, as this assessment comes from about 2
minutes of scanning the board.
Sorry to be both so terse and so unhelpful.
--- Eric
Message from France to Russia
> I'm way behind on press -- the extension is on my behalf.
Hey, I understand. Believe me.
> I've only had a chance to scan over the press, so I hope I'm not missing
> anything. I think for this season I need to keep Andy happy. Next year I
> don't see any reason why I can't jump him, but even going down two, if
> he and
> Jason combine, I'm not seeing how I can hold any line, north or south.
>
I'm not asking you to jump him. I'm just asking you to let me jump him, in
Venice. All you have to do is use Tyrolia for something, anything, other
than supporting Venice. He's going to do your bidding regardless; he's too
hell-bent on proving a point to me to do otherwise. Letting me take Venice
won't cost you anything, and will give me a better shot at dealing with
Ben when the time comes.
Erik
Message from England to all
Greetings all.
My computer's been at the shop for two days. I thought I'd be able to get
my orders in tonight at work but I haven't been able to do it yet. I will
take care of it in a few hours but it will surely be after the deadline.
I will gladly consider any correspondence I get *before* the deadline.
Mea culpa.
Ben
England: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT Fleet Berlin
England: Fleet Barents Sea → Norway
England: Fleet Berlin HOLD
England: Army Kiel → Holland
England: Fleet North Sea → English Channel
England: Army Norway → Sweden
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → North Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet Skagerrak SUPPORT Army Norway → Sweden
France: Army Belgium → Ruhr
France: Army Burgundy → Munich (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon SUPPORT Army Tuscany
France: Army Piedmont → Venice (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
France: Army Tuscany SUPPORT Army Piedmont → Venice
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Russian Army Serbia → Bulgaria
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Tunis (*bounce, dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Naples SUPPORT Army Rome
Italy: Army Rome SUPPORT Army Venice
Italy: Army Venice SUPPORT Army Rome (*cut*)
Russia: Fleet Armenia SUPPORT Fleet Bulgaria (east coast) → Black Sea
Russia: Fleet Bulgaria (east coast) → Black Sea (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Finland → St Petersburg
Russia: Army Moscow SUPPORT Army Finland → St Petersburg
Russia: Army Munich → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Rumania SUPPORT Army Serbia → Bulgaria
Russia: Army Serbia → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Silesia SUPPORT Army Munich → Berlin
Russia: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Italian Army Venice
Russia: Army Ukraine → Sevastopol
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Fleet Ankara SUPPORT Fleet Black Sea
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
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