|
|
Austria: Builds 2 units
England: Builds 1 unit
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Builds 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Italy to France
Erik...
Spain(SC)....help me out here.
Message from Germany to France
Hmmm once again strange moves. Interesting to see how this develops. I
wonder if you will be facing a strong AI soon.
Let me know your reasoning.
Message from France to Italy
>
> Erik...
>
> Spain(SC)....help me out here.
>
Andy:
Hey, don't focus on Spain (sc), focus on A Tyr and A Bur -- pretty darned
anti-German, right? Which, I believe, is what you were gunning for.
Spa (sc) was just to cover myself in case you decided you'd be better off
coming after me after I moved to Piedmont. My build will *not* be in
Marseilles, and as such, I'm not really that threatening to you right now.
Besides, F Spa will be heading to Portugal next year to pick up another
build.
I would have given you more warning of the plan that England I were
developing, but with Tony as the receiving end, I figured the less people
who had word, the better. As promised, though, I did vacate Piedmont.
Anyway, I've only just glanced at the results, so I'm not in a position to
discuss too much right now. I wanted to reassure you sooner rather than
later, though.
More soon,
Erik
Message from France to England
Nice. Germany's worried now, wants to know what I'm doing. He was
expecting F Mao - Eng.
Erik
Message from England to France
Erik -
> Nice. Germany's worried now, wants to know what I'm doing. He was
> expecting F Mao - Eng.
Beautiful. I am very pleased with our position.
Tony's already complained to me - I wrote him that I didn't want him to
build an F KIE and now I don't have to worry about it. Really the big
surprise for him came from you - I am very pleased with our position now.
I will look things over & get back to you with a proposed build for me. I
will tell you right now I am thinking of F LON, with your permission, which
will permit us - through ENG - to exert force against BEL. Perhaps set as a
goal that I get BEL with that fleet, or something like that.
But I haven't given it a whole lot of thought yet & certainly have no
attachment to anything yet.
You had an excellent plan and I have a smile on my face, which is more than
I could have said after the spring moves. . .
Ben
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
>
> Hey, don't focus on Spain (sc), focus on A Tyr and A Bur -- pretty darned
> anti-German, right? Which, I believe, is what you were gunning for.
>
Yes. But its not like you arent still in a position to attack me.
> Spa (sc) was just to cover myself in case you decided you'd be better off
> coming after me after I moved to Piedmont. My build will *not* be in
> Marseilles, and as such, I'm not really that threatening to you right now.
> Besides, F Spa will be heading to Portugal next year to pick up another
> build.
Ok.
> Anyway, I've only just glanced at the results, so I'm not in a position to
> discuss too much right now. I wanted to reassure you sooner rather than
> later, though.
>
please do.
Message from France to Italy
> Yes. But its not like you arent still in a position to attack me.
Andy, if I'd wanted to actually attack you, I would have lobbied Austria
for cooperation this turn, and I would have ordered F Mao - Wes and Gas -
Spa. A Pie certainly wouldn't have gone to Tyrolia, where it's threatening
to Germany. I know you're worried, but I have absolutely no interest in
attacking you right now.
I do have a very strong interest in attacking Tony, though, which is why A
Mar - Pie has turned out so fortuitous in the end -- A Bur and A Tyr,
while not a decisive force against Germany, certainly put England and I in
a better position than other sets of moves would have.
I appreciate your willingness, so far, to accept my word and continue
focusing on the east. I can assure you that such trust is not without
reward -- I am, as you desired, taking on Tony, and that A Pie opening is
just an unpleasant memory now.
Erik
Message from Austria to France
Erik,
I'm pleasantly surprise to see you in Tyrolia. I would
have prefered to know about it in advance, but I
suppose you still didn't trust me in regard of Italy.
For my part, since there was to be no attack on Italy,
I saw no problem in supporting Apu-Ven; but we did
lose a good opportunity to bring down Italy a notch.
Philippe
Message from England to France
Erik -
I have put in F LON for my build, as I described earlier. But I also set
wait & will understand perfectly well if you would like me to do something
else; just let me know.
Again, my thinking with F LON is ENG - BEL. Also in the spring I order the
convoy to HOL again, forcing the German defenses to be spread too thin.
Let me know your thoughts.
Ben
Message from Turkey to France
Nice one. Germany never saw that coming....
jason
Message from France to Austria
>
> I'm pleasantly surprise to see you in Tyrolia. I would
> have prefered to know about it in advance, but I
> suppose you still didn't trust me in regard of Italy.
Italy wasn't really the issue for me, but my joint planning with other
powers was. What exactly do you think I'm planning to do with A Tyr,
anyway?
> For my part, since there was to be no attack on Italy,
> I saw no problem in supporting Apu-Ven; but we did
> lose a good opportunity to bring down Italy a notch.
Well, it looked to me like you and Turkey had formed some sort of anti-
Russian plan, and I think I'm right about that, yes? I certainly
suggested taking Italy down a notch, but you didn't seem very interested
last season or the season before.
Let me look over the map a little more and get back to you.
Erik
Message from France to Germany
Tony:
Well, frankly, after your erratic opening, I just didn't feel that I
could trust you to undertake any kind of joint attack on a neighbor. You
demonstrated paranoia, an extreme willingness to lie and a propensity for
spreading misinformation all before the end of 1901. While these are all
certainly elements of any player's game, I just couldn't move forward
with you given your initial play.
I am always open to suggestions, though, and you've certainly followed
through as promised this turn, so perhaps I've made a mistake. Luckily,
my armies are in a position to move in a number of directions, so if I do
change course, they need not be as threatening to you as they seem.
It's late over here, and I need some sleep. I will write more tomorrow.
Erik
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
Looks like you're staring down the barrel of an AT alliance. Not pretty.
On the plus side, you won't have to worry about Germany for a little
while. England and I (as the moves have demonstrated) are making a run at
taking him down, though I suspect it's going to be a protracted fight.
Do you have any idea what Italy's position is right now via-a-vis AT? Most
of his messages to me have been along the lines of "please don't attack",
but I don't actually know much about what he's planning. I'd love to see
him provide you with a little relief, because I definitely don't want to
see you get chewed up by AT.
I know you probably can't afford to make an enemy of G right now, but if
you can spare F Swe for a support move against Tony, it would be very
helpful to me. I'm doing everything I can to keep England out of the north
while you get your southern border taken care of, and as long as Ben and I
are working together against Germany, I think I can do that. If you could
lend a hand, it would probably help me argue to keep English fleets from
venturing further than they've already gone into Scandanavia.
Erik
Message from France to England
Ben:
Well, frankly, I *am* a little uncomfortable with the thought of F Eng,
but at the same time, I can see its tactical benefits. I suppose an army
in London, while the most re-assuring thing for me from a long-term safety
perspective, just wouldn't do much good against Germany.
So, I suppose F Lon is your best build. We can always discuss its
disposition, and I can bring F Spa up to Mao as a comfort measure to cover
Brest. As for me, A Par seems the obvious choice.
We've got a lot of guessing going on. Assuming that Austria doesn't boot
me out of Tyrolia (which may be a big assumption, if he is indeed friendly
with Germany), I can either grab for Munich or try to head for Ruhr and
move Par - Bur. You can use Nth to tap Bel or try to convoy to Hol.
I'm thinking this for the spring:
A Bur - Ruhr (will probably bounce but keep Ruhr clear)
A Par - Pic
A Tyr - Mun (to kill any support Munich might be giving for, say, Kiel -
Ruhr)
You should order:
F Nwy - Ska (if you're comfortable with Russia, but given his southern
mess, he can't be looking to irk you right now)
F Nth - Hel
F Lon - Nth
I think this gives us maximum attack coverage while keeping Eng clear and
free of potential worry on either side.
If Germany moves Kiel - Hol, he leaves Kiel open, and you've got F Hel
there to threaten it. If he leaves Kiel in place, you've got a convoy op
in place with support from Hel OR from Pic (if you convoy to Bel). F Ska
is there to threaten / tap Den. Tyrolia probably won't make it to Munich
and Burgundy won't make it to Ruhr, but as long as they're there, Mun and
Ber are tied up in defense.
Thoughts?
Erik
Message from England to France
Erik -
> Well, frankly, I *am* a little uncomfortable with the thought
> of F Eng,
> but at the same time, I can see its tactical benefits. I
> suppose an army
> in London, while the most re-assuring thing for me from a
> long-term safety
> perspective, just wouldn't do much good against Germany.
I'm inclined to agree - A LON wouldn't do either of us much good.
> So, I suppose F Lon is your best build. We can always discuss its
> disposition, and I can bring F Spa up to Mao as a comfort
> measure to cover
> Brest. As for me, A Par seems the obvious choice.
I have no problem with SPA - MAO, if you're comfortable with Andy. We can
discuss that more in the spring.
> We've got a lot of guessing going on. Assuming that Austria
> doesn't boot
> me out of Tyrolia (which may be a big assumption, if he is
> indeed friendly
> with Germany), I can either grab for Munich or try to head
> for Ruhr and
> move Par - Bur. You can use Nth to tap Bel or try to convoy to Hol.
Tapping BEL could make a big difference. Tony is no doubt considering both
BEL s MUN - BUR, which would make it a breeze for him to recapture MUN in
the fall if TYR - MUN succeeds, and BEL s KIE (or MUN) - RUH.
> I'm thinking this for the spring:
>
> A Bur - Ruhr (will probably bounce but keep Ruhr clear)
> A Par - Pic
> A Tyr - Mun (to kill any support Munich might be giving for,
> say, Kiel -
> Ruhr)
I think these moves should do the trick.
> You should order:
>
> F Nwy - Ska (if you're comfortable with Russia, but given his southern
> mess, he can't be looking to irk you right now)
> F Nth - Hel
> F Lon - Nth
>
> I think this gives us maximum attack coverage while keeping
> Eng clear and free of potential worry on either side.
Yes but the success of your moves depends to a large part on the success of
NTH - HEL. If it fails then LON is stuck in LON and we make no headway in
'02. So what do you think of YOR - NTH - BEL and LON - ENG. I know you are
not comfortable with me in ENG but it gets the most out of all our units.
Here is your analysis below; consider what happens if I bounce in HEL, which
is not at all unlikely:
> If Germany moves Kiel - Hol, he leaves Kiel open, and you've got F Hel
> there to threaten it. If he leaves Kiel in place, you've got
> a convoy op
> in place with support from Hel OR from Pic (if you convoy to
> Bel). F Ska
> is there to threaten / tap Den. Tyrolia probably won't make
> it to Munich
> and Burgundy won't make it to Ruhr, but as long as they're
> there, Mun and
> Ber are tied up in defense.
>
> Thoughts?
You have 'em. We have plenty of time - I'm in no rush & have no great
attachment to anything yet.
Ben
Message from Austria to France
> Italy wasn't really the issue for me, but my joint planning with other
> powers was. What exactly do you think I'm planning to do with A Tyr,
> anyway?
I assume you are planning Tyr-Mun, but why don't you
simply tell me what you want to do?
> Well, it looked to me like you and Turkey had formed some sort of anti-
> Russian plan, and I think I'm right about that, yes? I certainly
> suggested taking Italy down a notch, but you didn't seem very interested
> last season or the season before.
Things become alot clearer with hindsight ;-( I went
against Russia while still hoping there might be a small
chance of remaining neutral with Andy for the moment.
Very naive of me, I know.
Philippe
Message from Germany to all
Yup, that was the press I was on about.
Well you are at a little crossroad. As we are sure France will be an army then there is no pending threat for you. Usually when playing England its always difficult to get the right amount of armies into play. Usually you need fleets to keep pace with GER fleet build.
This is not the situation in this game. Not only would an army build make me feel more comfortable ;-) but a move nwy - bar, yor - nwyand depending what happens after that edi - nwy sets you up firm in northern russia. Usually to get 2 armies up there is quite a challenge.
But if I were England at this point I too would go for a fleet, probably in EDI but maybe for the show in London ;-)
I will be playing safe and I will be considering all neighbours as hostile in the spring.
Depending on that outcome then anything can happen.
First we have to awit the interesting builds (Italy, Russia, France).
As for me, two armies it has to be. I dont see the point at this stage for a fleet in BER to go after Sweden. If we so decide then either of us can pick it up in the spring or leave it till fall.
It will be interesting to see what the realionship is between AIF.
Speak to you after the builds
Message from England to France and Italy
Andy -
I hope you do not mind me copying Erik here:
> That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send
> it elsewhere and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
I agree. He suspects I'm working with Erik & is trying to split us.
I'm at work - will have more of a chance to write you each later.
Ben
Austria: BUILD Army Budapest
Austria: BUILD Army Vienna
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Germany: BUILD Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Russia: BUILD Army St Petersburg
Turkey: BUILD Army Constantinople
Centers
Austria: 5
England: 4
France: 4
Germany: 5
Italy: 4
Russia: 5
Turkey: 4
|