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England: Builds 2 units
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Removes 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Austria to France
Hi Erik,
What has happened between you and England?
Is it Andy's doing so he could try to finish me up
in peace?
Regards,
Philippe
Message from England to France
Erik -
I would have considered the same thing you did & I do not bear any grudge
for it at all.
Let's take a look at some of what we can expect now that the shoe has
dropped:
England: with two builds, will build in the south in a defensive posture.
The battle for French occupation of English centers will be slow and require
a near-complete use of the French forces.
Germany: crumbled, with BER to go to Russia
Russia:
Facing *zero* enemies - unless you include Germany. No doubt is *thrilled*
that England must now turn to face France, leaving most English holdings
vulnerable to Russia, to be taken at some point down the road, significantly
*after* French growth has stalled.
Italy:
Getting crushed in the Balkans. All three home centers and TUN are
vulnerable to France, as he pushes the units he has *east*. Meanwhile he
controls TUN, which is I believe a *necessary center* for France to solo.
Count the 18 yourself - I do not see how you solo without TUN, unless you
occupy WAR, or MOS. Moreover, TUN once held by you is easily defended.
Erik, as I see it you and I are in similar situations: I would benefit
fastest from attacking Scandinavia, and you would benefit fastest - not to
mention cross the stalemate line - by attacking Italy. But instead it
appears we *may* have to lock horns against each other, trying to scratch
out a difficult battle while good opportunities elsewhere dry up.
It is not too late for you to change your mind. I will build an A LVP and F
LON. It will not be an *offensive* build - it will rather be designed to
protect the home turf. You in IRI are perfectly well protected from me.
But if you choose to follow this path - building F BRE - then I will have to
pull back from the RG neighborhood to try to deal with you. I hope you see,
that better opportunites for you lay elsewhere.
If I was Italy, I would be encouraging France to attack England, to keep him
away from me. If I was Russia, I would be encouraging France to attack
England, to keep him away from me. If I was Germany, I would be encouraging
France to attack England, to break up the EF. But if I were *France*, I
would take this opportunity to reach across the stalemate line and stake my
claim to the Italian centers.
What do you think?
Ben
Message from Russia to France
Erik,
Well, I certainly left you holding the bag with Ben, but on the plus side,
Germany's been pretty well eviscerated. You are in a tighter spot than you'd
hoped, and a bungled situation in the south (that cost me position but has
nothing to do with FGR discussions) did the same for me. Yes Ben is stronger,
but he's out of position, and Italy's still weak, so you are still in an
overall decent spot. I don't know how you'll react to my moves, especially
when they are combined with Tony's (I just had that niggling feeling that I
could not trust him), so I won't talk any real planning with you until I hear
from you how badly I've pissed you off.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to England, France, and Russia
First off; Congratulations to Ben on his two builds, I would have preferred
they came from RG rather than just G.
Secondly, well done Eric (Russia).
Thirdly; it is not to late for the three of you to surrender to me. I will
be leniant and forgive you your trespasses against me, however continue down
this foolish path and none of you will survive to see 1905.
Analysis:
Observation:
1 - Doesnt that fleet in IRI look a lot like the army we saw in s1901m in
PIE ;-)
2- I was hoping on 4 sc's. Having only two left is still 50% positive news
Facts as I saw them, in message to observers before fall moves
1 - Russian proposal never taken seriously (expect attack on BER)
2 - Move to BOH expected
3 - Juggernaut to show through
4 - attack on Greece expected
Assumptions in message to observers
1 - Russia wouldnt follow through on support of DEN - KIE
2 - Ben would opt for DEN and NWY with my blessing
3 - EG will be screwed by FR (france wont move on iri)
4 - EFR to continue attack on G
All 4 wrong, I must stick to facts in the future ;-)
Analysis to date:
Russia hoping for EF conflict to allow juggernaut to take over
Germany/Italy. Builds gained to be deployed in north(STP) and warsaw area.
What does surprise me (but we all live and hopefully learn) is the
following.
It was always apparent that England would receive two builds. I was willing
to let him keep Denmark and hoped that he would push for Norway whilst I
retook Holland and that we jointly protected Berlin. That would have left me
the 4 sc's I expected. It also meant tha Ben had an escape and wouldnt be
caught up between RF once I am gone. It also meant that at least in the
north we could take on the juggernaut which I have been preaching all along.
I didnt expect Russia to support Ben, two english builds isnt in Russia's
interest (unless they are used against france).
We know the EF alliance has been stable over the last few years. France
managed to talk his way out of the situation in Italy. I am sure he will
talk his way out of the situation in IRI. Now and then his front line units
seem to have a wil of their own. Italy and I am sure England accept this and
will excuse it.
The talks during the fall involved EG working together and EFR working
together. I just had to keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I did
all the diploming, false messaging etc. that I could think of to convince
Ben that in the long run he is doomned unless he teams up with me or at
least with France.
Would France have moved to IRI if he knew that Russia was supporting England
into Denmark. My money says he wouldnt have. So maybe my analysis to date as
mentioned above is true. So was I the only one stabbed? indirectly I dont
think so. Ben and Erik (france) have been set up nicely by Eric(Russia).
Ben, do you really want to be pushed into a war with France and let the
juggernaut profit. Visit the USSR before the USSR visits you. Russia would
like nothing more than you and France to slog it out until RT get into place
to "HELP" you and France. Russia via the north and Turkey via the south.
So which two units do I disband and whos puppet do I become until I wipe you
all out in 1905.
I am sure EF can sort out IRI.
A fleet build in BRE allows for SPA - WES, MAR - GOL, IRI - MAO. In the fall
you get MAO - NAF. BY spring France is in TUN. Block one against the
JUGGERNAUT.
England builds two fleets, one in EDI and LON. I keep BER and MUN. EFG can
hold MUN/BER long enough for Ben to take NWY in the fall. Block two against
the JUGGERNAUT.
Dont be surprised to see RT get Italy to take TRI whilst they attack and
take GRE and BUD.
No matter if it's an austrian or italian unit in TRI it will be removed once
RT meet up there.
The short term Italian gain will vanish like snow in the sun.
Thats how I see Bens gains. Very temporary indeed.
Russia has saved his northern frontier for now and lost nothing and even
gained false friendship. He will push the RF versus England but in reality
it will be an EF battle whilst RT inch their way forward. No doubt he will
want at least an army build in LVP but he will prefer a fleet build instead.
No doubt he will ask/insist on a fleet in LVP/LON.
This is Russia's crucial year. He needs a build this year to close the
gaping whole in his defence up north. It's the last window of opportunity
for England/France.
If Russia can keep Bens friendship just one more year the build in STP will
be a fact and the long hot showers between them will be over.
I hope the western alliance which we have hidden well up until now springs
its trap on Russia.
Erik, I am sure you will offer me a better deal as a Russian puppet.
Tony
Message from England to France
Erik -
Without going into all the detail I was interested in Tony's note & it
certainly explains something to me, namely, why would you attack me if you
thought I was getting two builds. Answer, you didn't think I was getting
two builds. Russia played you for the bad guy, while he revs up his RT and
waits for my exposed back.
Well, that realization gave me some hope for our future, and makes me think
maybe I will not see a F BRE - why would you give him what he wants, when
he's played you like a drum?
But time will tell, on this one.
Ben
Message from France to England
Don't worry. No invasion planned.
It was a last minute decision. I needed to hang onto Holland, and to do so
required promising to move to Iri. I figured doing so would give me a
little more credibility with Germany down the road and give me a chance to
manipulate him a bit. I would have told you, but I didn't want you pulling
units back unnecessarily.
Clearly, with your two builds and without any other French units in the
area, I do not have a serious attack planned on your homeland. I hope you
will keep this in mind when you choose your builds.
More after the adjustments.
Erik
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
Well, I can't say I'm pleased, but at least I got Holland, and I suppose
I'll be able to patch things up with Ben. Why didn't you give me some
notice about your plans?
Erik
England: BUILD Fleet Liverpool
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
Germany: REMOVE Fleet Helgoland Bight
Germany: REMOVE Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Smyrna
Centers
Austria: 3
England: 5
France: 7
Germany: 2
Italy: 5
Russia: 7
Turkey: 5
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