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England: Builds 2 units
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Removes 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Austria to Germany
Hi Tony,
I'm getting tired of favorising others just so Andy doesn't
get to profit from his betrayal. He's offering peace to me
yet again and I hope it will be the right one this time; but
what do you think my chances are of actually seeing it?
Has he said anything to you?
Philippe
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
You are a gutsy and determined player. I am very impressed with your play.
Really. You have really done everything you could in the face of combined EFR
antagonism. I know it hasn't helped your position at all, and I'm sure it
doesn't help you to know that I sympathize with your position, having lived
through much the same abuse in my last two games, but I wanted to tell you
that I am very impressed with your determination.
That said, for yet another turn we've both pretty much screwed the other one
over. Had I not supported Den-Kie, I would be in probably a worse position in
Scandinavia than I am now with England out of Ska. I completely understand
your choice to try to take Hol and not move to Den. Makes perfect sense. For
myself, I think my moves were the slightly lesser of several evils.
I'm assuming we're at a negotiating standstill for the moment, but let me
know if there's anything you want to talk about, whether it be future moves,
analyzing earlier moves, or just chatting.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Austria
Hi, Philippe. I believe it is all to little to late. He may be genuine this
time but the juggernaut is on the role.
As I expected all along the Juggernaut is on its way. You and Italy will be
swept aside. .
BUD and GRE will be next to fall. You may get lucky. Surely even Andy must
realise by now that there is no IR, IT, AR or AT. There never was. I havent
concerned myself much with the east following the opening problems
encountered in trying to get an GIA relation off the ground.
Russia ploy is to get EF fighting. RT to sweep west, even maybe towards a 2
way. For now my money is on Russia to solo. Eric (Turkey) is a competent
player so Russia will find it difficult going but for now Russia is in the
driving seat.
Ben has fallen for a short term gain bun unless he and France work as one
Russia will be all over England.
RT will have no problem allowing Italy to take TRI. They will just remove
any Italian or Austrian unit that is there when the time comes. I think the
best AI defence (if one arises) is to try and destory as many units as
possible without worrying about losses.
I think Turkey will build a fleet. In the spring expect boh - vie, gal
support ser - bud.
If I were RT I would use the spring to position myself in ALB (ser - alb,
bul - ser, aeg - bul, smy - age). This ensures that GRE, BUD fall in the
fall. Russia may take the long way around and take BER.
Either way I am afraid that it is to late for AI. Maybe a late AIG might
offer some relief but not for long.
I would opt for bud - gal supported by vie, mun - boh supported by tyr,
ber - sil. Just try and destroy a frontline russian unit. Maybe even get a
shot at war by fall. I think Russia/Turkey will make it to Germany and
Italy.
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Erik. Thanks for the press and compliments. I am just getting around to
replying to 15 of 19 games, most of which were in my favour. I kept C2 till
last ;-) I will broadcast an efr press any minute now. I am just about to
start on it. I didnt however move on DEN (or at least I hope I didnt). I
only went for Holland. I will explain why in the large press.
Tony
Message from Russia to Germany
> I am just getting around to
> replying to 15 of 19 games, most of which were in my favour.
I have to believe that this (playing in lots of games) is the only way to
reduce the anxiety level I get playing this game. I often think that
Diplomacy playing is going to give me ulcers, I get so emotionally distraught
over them. But then I only play one or two games at a time, so maybe that
just magnifies things.
But I just don't have the time to participate in that many games. Real life
and all.
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Germany
Tony,
Just in case I wasn't clear, Andy's hold on Jason was so strong for
a while that I actually spend most of my time insuring there would
be an RT instead of an IRT. I failed at first, but I was bound to get
it going sooner or later. Now, I doubt my effort will help me survive
the Juggernaut, but there might still be hope. One thing's for sure, if
an RT isn't enough to get Andy off my back, then I will spend what
time I have left attacking him just for the fun of it.
So, if you have any influence left over Andy, please use it to stop
this madness,
Philippe.
P.-S. I heard Andy's a cutthroat player, but to see him lie and stab
me time after time with nothing to show for it is a bit much for me.
As Austria, I expect getting stab by Italy, but he has surpassed all
my expectations on that front and I wonder what's driving him to
such extreme. If you have any insight into his behavior, it would
really help me. Obviously, favorising an RT is a dead end strategy
for Austria and if I survive it, knowing what can be done to keep
Andy on board would help me greatly.
Message from Germany to Russia
> I have to believe that this (playing in lots of games) is the only way to
reduce the anxiety level I get playing this game.>
It has its downside. Accidently revealling your identity in gunboat games,
not giving the attention the game demands. The revealing of passwords, wrong
press to the wrong game or powers. Bad spelling and gramma because you are
constantly busy with all games at once. A conveyor belt of press and moves
(and gm-ing). The one major flaw is that some games demand more attention
than others. This one hasnt received the attention it deserved from me. It's
only in the last year (fall move) that I actually gave the game the
attention it deserved. But where there is life there is play.
The up-side is indeed that anxiety is ZERO and experience is gained in rapid
tempo. I enjoy every game and always have a good nights sleep and never
worry. I am always bewildered at how the cooky sometimes crumbles.
>I often think that Diplomacy playing is going to give me ulcers>
I know the feeling from the early days of diplomacy when I just started up
>I get so emotionally distraught over them.>
Yup, I can associate myself with that too, but once again way way back.
>But then I only play one or two games at a time, so maybe that just
magnifies things.>
I have played 39 games at once and I never had it so easy so maybe more
games equals less anxiety. It suddenly dawns on you that its just a game and
nothing is really personal. So I just enjoy every one of them. Maybe that 2
games indeed up the anxiety level where as the results in 20+ games always
cancel each other out. The positive and negative results always seem to
cancel each other out.
>But I just don't have the time to participate in that many games. Real life
and all.>
80% of my games are no press, it's just a matter of receiving press, looking
at the map and sending in your moves. The experience gained makes it all
worth while. In general though I do a lot better in press games.
Tony
Message from Germany to England, France, and Russia
First off; Congratulations to Ben on his two builds, I would have preferred
they came from RG rather than just G.
Secondly, well done Eric (Russia).
Thirdly; it is not to late for the three of you to surrender to me. I will
be leniant and forgive you your trespasses against me, however continue down
this foolish path and none of you will survive to see 1905.
Analysis:
Observation:
1 - Doesnt that fleet in IRI look a lot like the army we saw in s1901m in
PIE ;-)
2- I was hoping on 4 sc's. Having only two left is still 50% positive news
Facts as I saw them, in message to observers before fall moves
1 - Russian proposal never taken seriously (expect attack on BER)
2 - Move to BOH expected
3 - Juggernaut to show through
4 - attack on Greece expected
Assumptions in message to observers
1 - Russia wouldnt follow through on support of DEN - KIE
2 - Ben would opt for DEN and NWY with my blessing
3 - EG will be screwed by FR (france wont move on iri)
4 - EFR to continue attack on G
All 4 wrong, I must stick to facts in the future ;-)
Analysis to date:
Russia hoping for EF conflict to allow juggernaut to take over
Germany/Italy. Builds gained to be deployed in north(STP) and warsaw area.
What does surprise me (but we all live and hopefully learn) is the
following.
It was always apparent that England would receive two builds. I was willing
to let him keep Denmark and hoped that he would push for Norway whilst I
retook Holland and that we jointly protected Berlin. That would have left me
the 4 sc's I expected. It also meant tha Ben had an escape and wouldnt be
caught up between RF once I am gone. It also meant that at least in the
north we could take on the juggernaut which I have been preaching all along.
I didnt expect Russia to support Ben, two english builds isnt in Russia's
interest (unless they are used against france).
We know the EF alliance has been stable over the last few years. France
managed to talk his way out of the situation in Italy. I am sure he will
talk his way out of the situation in IRI. Now and then his front line units
seem to have a wil of their own. Italy and I am sure England accept this and
will excuse it.
The talks during the fall involved EG working together and EFR working
together. I just had to keep my fingers crossed and hope for the best. I did
all the diploming, false messaging etc. that I could think of to convince
Ben that in the long run he is doomned unless he teams up with me or at
least with France.
Would France have moved to IRI if he knew that Russia was supporting England
into Denmark. My money says he wouldnt have. So maybe my analysis to date as
mentioned above is true. So was I the only one stabbed? indirectly I dont
think so. Ben and Erik (france) have been set up nicely by Eric(Russia).
Ben, do you really want to be pushed into a war with France and let the
juggernaut profit. Visit the USSR before the USSR visits you. Russia would
like nothing more than you and France to slog it out until RT get into place
to "HELP" you and France. Russia via the north and Turkey via the south.
So which two units do I disband and whos puppet do I become until I wipe you
all out in 1905.
I am sure EF can sort out IRI.
A fleet build in BRE allows for SPA - WES, MAR - GOL, IRI - MAO. In the fall
you get MAO - NAF. BY spring France is in TUN. Block one against the
JUGGERNAUT.
England builds two fleets, one in EDI and LON. I keep BER and MUN. EFG can
hold MUN/BER long enough for Ben to take NWY in the fall. Block two against
the JUGGERNAUT.
Dont be surprised to see RT get Italy to take TRI whilst they attack and
take GRE and BUD.
No matter if it's an austrian or italian unit in TRI it will be removed once
RT meet up there.
The short term Italian gain will vanish like snow in the sun.
Thats how I see Bens gains. Very temporary indeed.
Russia has saved his northern frontier for now and lost nothing and even
gained false friendship. He will push the RF versus England but in reality
it will be an EF battle whilst RT inch their way forward. No doubt he will
want at least an army build in LVP but he will prefer a fleet build instead.
No doubt he will ask/insist on a fleet in LVP/LON.
This is Russia's crucial year. He needs a build this year to close the
gaping whole in his defence up north. It's the last window of opportunity
for England/France.
If Russia can keep Bens friendship just one more year the build in STP will
be a fact and the long hot showers between them will be over.
I hope the western alliance which we have hidden well up until now springs
its trap on Russia.
Erik, I am sure you will offer me a better deal as a Russian puppet.
Tony
Message from Germany to Austria
Hi philippe. I think it went badly wrong in the spring of 1901. I dont think
he ever got over your insistence on bouncing TRI, That is what probably
drove him to Turkey.
I for one had to give up on any GIA. It just wasnt there. Early alliances
are crucial. I made the big mistake of not believing and trusting EF in the
western alliance arena. I chickened out and I have paid dearly since. I too
am trying to warn EF of the RT juggernaut threat and that Russia is pushing
EF into war. I think that I scared them that much that they just dont
believe me anymore. The boy crying wolf.
As for Andy I know nothing about him. I never pay attention to JDPR's or
reputations. I play the board as is. I barecly recognise people who I have
played against in previous games. They usually point out that we know each
other. It just never registrates with me. I must be doing something right
else I wouldnt be ranked 340. But no doubt after the updates that may vary
for better or for worst. I dont keep track.
But all in all I know it takes all types to play diplomacy but I have found
it to be the best strategy that fits me. I believe you and Italy blew it in
the spring of 1901. All moves after that showed a clear anti austrian
tendancy.
I will try a last ditch AIG press soon to see if I can help out and help
myself at the same time. For now I am reasoning that Italy will attack TRI
edged to do so by RT. Whilst RT attack Greece and BUD and cut VIE support.
I will see what I can do.
Message from Germany to Germany
Tough one, I will opt to try and help out AI so I will be removing HEL/RUH.
That does coincidently also fit into the plan I put before EF. It will be
interesting to see if Ben sticks with Russia.
England: BUILD Fleet Liverpool
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
Germany: REMOVE Fleet Helgoland Bight
Germany: REMOVE Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Turkey: BUILD Fleet Smyrna
Centers
Austria: 3
England: 5
France: 7
Germany: 2
Italy: 5
Russia: 7
Turkey: 5
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