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Message from Germany to Italy
Roberto:
Should I expect a return of the Italians to TYR? Looks like you can
pick up VEN while Turkey grabs BUD.
What's up with a new French Fleet? Perhaps his strategy is now to
leave himself wide open to me so that he can fight England better? Or
is he worried about you.
Sorry to be asking so many questions while providing little information
of my own. I just seem to have more questions than answers at the
moment.
Fredd
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
I seem to be totally ignorant in the ways of Diplomacy. How did I ever
make the final round?
Never in a million years did I think France would build a fleet. Although
I gave it much less thought, I was confident that Austria would destroy
his.
Taking the latter first, Austria's decision looks like a complete "give-up"
move designed only to harass you. By keeping the fleet, Austria occupies
your Ionian fleet for one more year. Frankly, I don't think this makes any
difference to anything in the long run.
Back to France, where you were completely correct and I was wrong. You
either have better diplomacy sense than I do or better information. I
don't wish to put you on the spot again by asking your intentions -- at
least for now. We apparently can't get you Spain immediately anyway. I do
wish to repeat my suggestion that, no matter what you deem best in the
short run, our interests are best served in the long run by not practicing
deception for short term gains. Our potential for working together is
considerable.
Once I asked you how you were going to restrain Austria. Question: how are
you going to contain Turkey? I know, I know, how am I going to contain
Germany? Both Turkey and Germany have better control over the alliances
than we do. This year they have the opportunity to surge ahead
independently, or they can restrain themselves and maintain equality with a
partner. That's what I would do, but then I am not them.
I still think that the sooner we rid ourselves of France, the sooner we can
come to grips with Germany & Turkey.
Cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto, My Friend,
>I seem to recall suggesting Mos s Gal-War. :)
Which would have left me with a 50-50 shot at
defending Sev, and eliminated any hope for Russian
growth.
>I tried to get Austria to concentrate on Turkey but he felt he had to
>attack you. Even after I stabbed him he still moved into your home center.
Yes, Austria will not win any rewards for
rational play in this game.
>As for Turkey, he didn't want to see you get a build either. I think
>Austria/Turkey feared a powerful Russia more than they feared a powerful
>Italy.
That might explain F1901M, but without a build
in 1903, I'm going to lose a Center or two to Germany
in '04, and I don't see how that benefits Turkey.
Of course, a 4-Center Power in 1904 is hardly powerful,
by any reckoning, especially when it's Russia.
>That's not to say your position isn't salvageable, but I'd have to think
>not too many observers are giving you a chance to survive.
Unless I can sway England this year, I'm inclined
to agree with the Observers. ;-)
>I've ordered an army build in Venice
My thanks.
>It's heading to Tyrolia or Piedmont depending on the next round of
>negotiations.
Attacking France this year would give Ivy the
opportunity to grow from French Centers while Germany
expands in Russia. I can't see how that's good for
you, even if you get Mar and/or Spa.
>I have two choices in Iberia. Ivy still has hope that I will help take
>France out.
It clearly seems to be to your advantage to
support France, and contain Ivy this year, while you
eliminate Austria. I'd say it would also be to your
advantage to have England stab Germany, since that
would slow/prevent German growth, and aid my survival,
and keep the West from resolving for some time, so I
would ask that you tell Ivy that you intend to support
France this year.
I'm not dead, yet!
I'm feeling better, really, I am!
I think I'll go for a walk...
Nick.
Message from Italy to Germany
> Should I expect a return of the Italians to TYR?
> Looks like you can pick up VEN while Turkey grabs BUD.
>
Can we discuss my moving back to Tyrolia? I would very much like to see
Austria eliminated as fast as possible as he carries (and rightfully so) a
vendetta against me. An army in Tyrolia would very much aid in that goal.
The sooner Austria is eliminated, the sooner I can concentrate fully on
France and Turkish growth.
I understand Tyrolia borders your home center and you are understandably
concerned when a unit moves there. I hope my previous tenure in Tyrolia
will ease any tension between us. We have a potentially great opportunity
to work with each other in the very near future when a simultaneous move
east and west would put Tyrolia into Piedmont.
I am very interested in your opinion on the move Ven-Tyr.
Both you, I, and Turkey are now at 6 centers. I would like to see us all
reach 7 if possible this year. STP to Germany, SEV to Turkey, and 1 of
VIE/BUD to Italy seems more than feasible. What are your thoughts?
> What's up with a new French Fleet? Perhaps his
> strategy is now to leave himself wide open to me
> so that he can fight England better? Or
> is he worried about you.
>
He has told me on more than one occassion that his primary goal is to defend
Iberia from English conquest even if that means relinquishing centers to
either you or me. I do not believe he is worried about me as he requested
my move to the Western Med. Wanting to move west myself, I was more than
happy to oblige. :)
>
> Sorry to be asking so many questions while providing little
> information of my own. I just seem to have more questions
> than answers at the moment.
>
Not a problem. I seem to have more answers than questions.
Actually, I do have one question. Ivy has made mention that, despite your
presence in Burgundy, you have no claim on French centers. I find this hard
to believe but was wondering what your take on the subject was?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> That might explain F1901M, but without a build
> in 1903, I'm going to lose a Center or two to Germany
> in '04, and I don't see how that benefits Turkey.
>
I agree but, unfortunately, Turkey saw it a different way. The more I think
about it, the more I think Turkey knew Austria was going to move to
Sevastopol. (He knew the other three orders.) I think that's why Austria
removed the unit closest to me - I'm not the last person to stab him. In
Turkey's mind, how could you be mad at him this year when he takes a unit
from Austria in SEV even though it's your home center. And, with Austria in
SEV, it would make it that much harder for the two of you to coordinate and
cooperate. He never told me he knew, but I'm confident that he did know and
refused to bounce Austria using the Black-Sea-fleet-self-bounce-in-CON
excuse.
>
> >It's heading to Tyrolia or Piedmont depending on the next round of
> >negotiations.
>
> Attacking France this year would give Ivy the
> opportunity to grow from French Centers while Germany
> expands in Russia. I can't see how that's good for
> you, even if you get Mar and/or Spa.
>
A move to Piedmont does not necessarily mean an attack of France. It could
easily be used to help defend Marseilles from a Burgundy attack. I would
move to Piedmont only with approval from France.
>
> It clearly seems to be to your advantage to
> support France, and contain Ivy this year, while you
> eliminate Austria.
That is the current plan.
> I'd say it would also be to your
> advantage to have England stab Germany, since that
> would slow/prevent German growth, and aid my survival,
> and keep the West from resolving for some time,
I would love for England to stab Germany although I seriously doubt that
will happen unless a few things occur:
- he's blocked in the West Med
- Germany grows too large too soon but unfortunately that would most likely
come at your expense so that's not such a good thing
I see Germany stabbing England as more likely.
> so I would ask that you tell Ivy that you intend to support
> France this year.
>
I plan on doing just that.
> I'm not dead, yet!
> I'm feeling better, really, I am!
> I think I'll go for a walk...
>
I haven't decided any plans for this year but if all goes well, it's
certainly possible I might be able to support you into either Budapest or
Vienna if you so desire.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Turkey
> Austria: Removes the army in Vienna.
I never saw that coming! Can I rollback the turn and build a fleet?
I haven't had time to study the map in great detail but I would like to
discuss the Aegean fleet. Would it be to your advantage if I ordered Ion s
Gre-Aeg? A self-bounce in CON would force the fleet to the EAS Med where in
the fall you would only have to worry about Smyrna as opposed to
SMY/CON/BUL. Just a thought.
Let me know if the plan of BUD->Italy and SEV-Turkey changes. Both are
easily within reach I think.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Turkey
> If you could give me something to tell Ivy, it
> might help glean information on what Nth is up to.
>
With the Aegean fleet still in existence, I plan on telling Ivy that, at
least for the spring, I intend on supporting the French position and I would
reevaluate in the fall. I do not plan on supporting France into the MAO as
I don't want to 'force' a retreat to North Africa.
If you would prefer a different plan of attack, let me know.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to England
>
> I seem to be totally ignorant in the ways of Diplomacy. How
> did I ever make the final round?
>
Better to be lucky than good I guess. :)
> Never in a million years did I think France would build a
> fleet.
When I saw the disband, I immediately assumed a fleet in Marseilles was on
the way. Neither you nor Germany had a build so there was no reason to keep
either of you guessing.
> Although I gave it much less thought, I was confident
> that Austria would destroy his.
>
As was I. The Austrian disband caught me by surprise but, as I look at the
map, I think this was the best possible disband for Italy. The Aegean fleet
causes more concern for Turkey than I and Trieste is much more easily
defended now. I'm pleased with the results of the winter.
> Taking the latter first, Austria's decision looks like a
> complete "give-up" move designed only to harass you. By
> keeping the fleet, Austria occupies your Ionian fleet for
> one more year. Frankly, I don't think this makes any
> difference to anything in the long run.
>
Here's my take on the Austrian disband. Most Diplomacy players direct their
attention/defense at the last person who stabbed them. In this case, I
think Turkey stabbed Austria in the fall. Austria was probably expecting
Turkish support into Trieste and didn't get it. It's clear Austria's
disband favors Italy more than Turkey and the only reason for that would be
if Austria was more upset at Turkey than me.
> I don't wish to put you on the spot again by asking your
> intentions -- at least for now. We apparently can't get
> you Spain immediately anyway.
Doubtful and I don't want to try until it's guaranteed and I have the
ability to defend the center with my own units. It's not that I distrust
you but I prefer to take and defend centers with my own units without having
to rely on outside help. It's very nerve racking to wonder if Turkey will
order Ser s Tri or Ser s Vie-Tri.
I suppose it goes back to the adage I talked about above, Diplomacy players
are most mad at the last player to stab them. Currently, you are the last
player to stab France. As Italy, there is no real reason for me to change
that at least until Austria is eliminated and I need to find another place
of growth.
> I do wish to repeat my suggestion that, no matter what
> you deem best in the short run, our interests are best
> served in the long run by not practicing deception for
> short term gains. Our potential for working together is
> considerable.
>
I agree. Thus, I am informing you that, at least for this spring, I will
use my Western Med fleet as France desires. I will reevaluate the position
in the fall. Had Austria disbanded his fleet and allowed me to move another
fleet west, I think I would have felt more secure in attacking France this
year. So, hopefully next year, I will be in a position where I feel
comfortable in beginning our active participation against France.
>
> Question: how are you going to contain Turkey?
>
I'm hoping Germany will worry about containing Turkey. :)
> I know, how am I going to contain Germany? Both Turkey
> and Germany have better control over the alliances
> than we do. This year they have the opportunity to surge ahead
> independently, or they can restrain themselves and maintain
> equality with a partner.
>
Prior to the disbands, Turkey and I had planned (hoped) to each take 1 from
Austria - BUD->Italy and SEV->Turkey. Turkey and I are both proponents of
maintaining equality with a partner. However, of the 4 major powers, you're
currently the only one without 6 centers. Thus, I'm secretly hoping that
you reach 6 this year as I suspect Germany will acquire STP for his 7th.
With German assistance, I think it's possible. He'd have some explaining to
do if he didn't help you.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
> I never saw that coming! Can I rollback the turn and build a fleet?
Heh heh. Actually that's what I was guessing he would disband, on the premise
that I'm now the bad guy. Disbanding Aeg or Sev would have given me much more
flexibility, and he can't hope to hold Vie and Bud anyway. So this way he
gets to be a P.I.A. to anyone in the region, depending on his whim.
> I haven't had time to study the map in great detail but I would like to
> discuss the Aegean fleet. Would it be to your advantage if I ordered Ion s
> Gre-Aeg? A self-bounce in CON would force the fleet to the EAS Med where in
> the fall you would only have to worry about Smyrna as opposed to
> SMY/CON/BUL. Just a thought.
Yes, that would be quite welcome. Austria's fleet would be much less
troublesome in EMS than Aeg. Hopefully Austria will be gone soon, and so will
his fleet.
> Let me know if the plan of BUD->Italy and SEV-Turkey changes. Both are
> easily within reach I think.
Russia tells me he's thinking of War-Mos, Gal-Ukr, in which case I might not
have a sure shot at Sev in the fall if Rum's support were cut (assuming
Ank-Arm doesn't bounce). In a second press, though, he suggests Bla S
Rum-Sev, so I'm not sure what he has in mind.
So I'd like to get more intelligence from Russia before committing one way or
another, but either Bud->Italy, Sev->Turkey, or Vie->Italy, Bud->Turkey works
for me. I'd like to do maximum damage to Austria this year; if that means
letting Russia back into Sev, that might not be so bad, depending on what
Germany does. However, I'm still leaning toward going for Sev this year.
Either way, it should be easy to get us each a build.
> With the Aegean fleet still in existence, I plan on telling Ivy that, at
> least for the spring, I intend on supporting the French position and I would
> reevaluate in the fall. I do not plan on supporting France into the MAO as
> I don't want to 'force' a retreat to North Africa.
Fair enough, I'll pass this along. If I can glean any info on where F Nth is
going, I'll let you know. I'm getting conflicting reports about how concerned
Germany is about F Nth. He tells me it may "delay" his Russian offensive, but
I'm not entirely sure it isn't just window dressing to downplay EG solidarity.
> If you would prefer a different plan of attack, let me know.
How do these ideas grab you:
Ven S Tri - Tyr
Alb - Tri
Ion S Gre - Aeg
Rum S Ser - Bud (or Rum - Sev)
Bla S Rum (or S Rum - Sev)
Ank - Arm
Bul - Con
Smy - Con
This would give you pressure against either Vie or Bud in the fall, and still
allow Ven-Pie if you wish. Russia's proposal is Bla S Rum-Sev, Smy-Con,
Bul-Rum, Ser-Bud, War-Mos, Gal-Ukr. His argument is that this will ensure the
destruction of A Sev, and still enable me to regain Bul or Smy if Austria
guesses right with the fleet. Actually, my guess is Aeg-Bul, to cut support
for an attack on Rum. Anyway, if Russia's really on board for seeing a
Turkish army destroy Austrian A Sev in the spring, that would be my first
choice. I find it hard to believe that's what he really wants, though.
I'm still pretty uncertain about Russian intentions. I can't rule out the
possibility that they'll conspire to destroy Rum, with Bul/Gal S Sev-Rum,
War-Ukr. Of course, that doesn't jive with his suggestion of Ser-Bud, but the
paranoid side of me still has to wonder about AR. In any case, I'd love to
hear what you're getting from him these days.
Best regards,
Ali
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
>Here's my take on the Austrian disband. Most Diplomacy players direct their
>attention/defense at the last person who stabbed them.
It's a very emotional thing, as you surely know. I think that the defense
is usually directed at the one who most hurt the cause and sent one on a
losing spiral. For example, I expect that should France die as a result of
the current position, he will always defend against me.
> It's very nerve racking to wonder if Turkey will
>order Ser s Tri or Ser s Vie-Tri.
Turkey will remain on your side until he picks up Sevastopol and Moscow.
Then he will charge west. If you have picked up Vienna and Budapest, you
may be able to restrain him. Germany will be a wild card in this. I can't
quite envision what German strength will be like in a year or two. Anyway,
I do believe that Turkey will work with you for at least one more year.
My biggest fear is that Germany will unite with France and crush me, before
France is weakened. It troubles me a little that Turkey and Germany have a
potential stalemate line between them that they can use should they throw
in together.
> I am informing you that, at least for this spring, I will
>use my Western Med fleet as France desires. I will reevaluate the position
>in the fall.
This is what I had been expecting. It is what the whole world has been
telling me. Of course, I trust that you will contain your support of
France to your side of Gibralter. I have pledged to respect that boundary
and I hope you do too. Please do not support any action in the Mid
Atlantic.
>Prior to the disbands, Turkey and I had planned (hoped) to each take 1 from
>Austria - BUD->Italy and SEV->Turkey. Turkey and I are both proponents of
>maintaining equality with a partner. However, of the 4 major powers, you're
>currently the only one without 6 centers. Thus, I'm secretly hoping that
>you reach 6 this year
I have a chance, although it is not a certainty. Please note that your
secret hope is incompatible with my loss of MAO. 8-)
Good luck.
Most cordially,
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
>
> Please do not support any action in the Mid Atlantic.
>
France has yet to request an order so I don't know what he has in mind;
however, I told him I don't want to support action in the MAO since I really
don't want to 'force' a retreat to North Africa and then be 'forced' to
defend Tunis.
If I had to guess, he's going to ask me to support Mar-Spa/sc so that he can
use Portugal against the MAO either supporting Brest there or moving there
itself. I would be hard-pressed to deny that request and still maintain any
friendly relations with the Prince. If you want any accurate info down the
road about French moves, I suspect it would come from me so keeping him on
my good side is good for the both of us.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
>If I had to guess, he's going to ask me to support Mar-Spa/sc so that he can
>use Portugal against the MAO either supporting Brest there or moving there
>itself. I would be hard-pressed to deny that request
This is perfectly fine with me. By the way, I doubt that Germany will ever
try for Marseilles.
Ivy
Message from Italy to France
Fleet Western Med is at your disposal. Let me know what you want it to do.
Also, I haven't yet decided on what I will do with my new army in Venice.
If you want me to move it to Piedmont as further defense against EG I'd
consider it, but I'd rather move it to Tyrolia to cripple Vienna.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Germany to Italy
Roberto:
My instincts tell me that I should protest you entering TYR again. My
brain says that there's little that I can do about it, as you can
support yourself in. So I suspect that even if I say don't go, I'll
see an Italian army in Tyr in the spring.
So go for it. However, as before, I really want to see it move out
again. Can we agree that the visit will be for only one turn? After
all Vienna is yours. Unless I work with Austria to keep you out. I have
no plans to do that, currently.
Ok that was the diplomatic thing to say. Closer to the truth is that
it's my belief that you will be under attack from your eastern neighbor
soon enough. Like I said many moons ago, I can forsee an IG alliance in
the midgame being quite productive.
It's true that I have no designs on French centers.
Fredd
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
Thank you for the note. I had forgotten about the game
and did not realize that the deadline was tonight. An
empty mailbox can do that to you.
Any thoughts on what England might do? Anything that
you have heard that might help me? What has he
requested from your fleet? Has he made any offers?
My first impression is to ask you to support Brest to the
MAO. I know it is a bit of a risk, but I am getting a
bit desperate. I ask you to make that your default order
and I will study the map at lunch today.
Go ahead and use the new army in the East. Right now
there is little that it can do and it's presence in
Tyrolia may be just as useful as Piedmont. I realize
that it will probably not do actively anything useful for
me, but it may make Germany nervous enough to hesitate.
That in itself may help.
Thanks for remembering me.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Have you made a decision regarding A Ven, yet?
I got a note from France indicating that he was
planning to to try to keep England from gaining a
Center, so I was hoping he had let you know whether
he wanted Ven-Pie, or Ven-Tyl.
Given the German threat, and the Austrian Army
in Sev, I don't think RA Gal will be available to
attack Bud, but I appreciate the offer. I'd,
obviously, love to see Tri-Vie, Alb-Tri, Ven-Tyl
this Spring. I suspect that Bud may be involved
in an attack on Rum, to try to save Sev from the
destruction I promised, so Tri-Vie has a better
than even chance to succeed, I think.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from France to all
Spring 1904 Symposium on Philosophy, Europe and
Everything.
- by Prince Xavier Boar
[This is Stuart Scott here. Surprisingly I did not lose
my job. I think that the brothers are too busy trying to
defend France to worry about me. They definitely could
use a better middle linebacker, that guy in Burgundy
folded like a freshly dried bath towel. Maybe they
should try to trade for Ray Lewis.]
[Let's role the clip on the uncensored parts of Prince
Boar's speech.]
Countrymen, life in France remains hard. The English and
the Germans continue to press our borders. With horror
we witnessed the deaths of some brave lads in Burgundy.
The Dauphin tells me that their sacrifice was necessary
and will not go in vain, but it was a tragedy
nonetheless. The Dauphin and I will continue to do
everything we can to turn back the English fleets and
slow down, if we can, the German armies.
We do welcome the arrival of the Italian fleet. Its
presence may allow us to hold out for as long as
possible.
[Was the disaster in Burgundy really a sacrifice for that
new fleet or are they just trying to cover up their
blunder? He mentioned some private stuff to give the
French people hope. Hope that he will stop talking that
is! Here is his customary pedantic philosophy portion.
Hey, alliteration. I have to find a way to use that one
on SportsCenter. Boomer will be so jealous.]
Philosophy
Today's lecture is on the topic of doubt and will feature
a great French philosopher, Rene Descartes. Descartes is
best know for his classic conclusion: Cogito ergo sum, or
in French: Je pense donc je suis. For the benefit of our
English speaking brethren: I think, therefore I exist.
The Dauphin likes to modify this philosophy to: I fight
therefore I exist. But the important part of this
philosophy is that Descartes arrived at it from a
foundation of doubt.
Descartes sought a method for seeing the truth of things
based on reason alone. He suspended belief in everything
he learned from childhood, doubted everything, as a
deliberate strategy toward certainty. My failure to
France was not starting for this same location. I should
have doubted the existence of an English alliance until
there was proof to support it. I put France at risk by
being blinded by faith without certainty. But no more.
The Dauphin and I pledge to continue to defend France as
if she will continue to be invaded by England and German.
No matter what the words we are hearing, we shall wait
for proof.
I am sure that many of you have noticed the Italian fleet
off our borders and recall my earlier words welcoming
them. You must be thinking, but you have not proof of
their intentions. I admit it is true. Only can a real
necessity or benefit allow us to risk trust without
proof. Therefore we must trust the Italian intentions.
[I think therefore I am, an interesting philosophy. I
know many a lineman who doesn't really think. I wonder
if they exist? If a Quarterbacks simply refuse to
believe in the existence of that 300 pound lineman, would
the bull pass right through him? Of course if he is
wrong, he will have plenty of time in a hospital bed to
ponder his philosophies.]
[Well, that is all folks. Until next year, if there is a
next year for France. I wish the Dauphin good luck. I
like coming to France. Where else do the women
continually kiss you on the cheeks whenever you walk into
the room?
Really, where else do they do that? I want to know. I
have some vacation time coming and need to plan a trip
somewhere!
Stuart]
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Baloney Diploman, the French sure are taking some pot shots at the
English. They do not seem to need our services.
DM> Boy Gambit, our role is to expose the betrayers in the world, it is up to
the powers to decide how to handle those betrayals. Perhaps the French are
just a bunch of whiners!
BG> Was that whiners or "winers"? They drink a lot of wine, get it?
DM> Yes, ahem. It is sure nice to be back in action now that everyone is back
from vacation.
BG> Why were we so silent? It was boring watching all those reruns on cable!
DM> Well Boy Gambit, we do not want to broadcast during known absences. By a
process of elimination our identities would be revealed.
BG> Holey Brainwaves Diploman, you certainly are smart. I never thought of
that.
DM> We have missed a bit of action during our silence. The blood was barely dry
on the knife and the Italian promptly stuck it in the back of the Austrian.
BG> Yes, they certainly are active. Who will be the next one to feel his knife?
The French?
DM> We shall see Boy Gambit, we will watch Boy Gambit. Anything else strike
you as being naughty.
BG> Well, I can't help but wonder if the Germans really invited the English back
into the North Sea. Was that a betrayal Diploman?
DM> We are currently investigating that one. It is up in the air pending
further information.
BG> The Germans may not have much to complain about. The Russia move to
Livonia last spring suggests that they expected something else from the Germans.
DM> Good point Boy Gambit. You grow in awareness each day.
BG> Holey Flattery Diploman, you embarrass me.
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> Yes, that would be quite welcome. Austria's fleet would be much less
> troublesome in EMS than Aeg. Hopefully Austria will be gone
> soon, and so will his fleet.
>
Okay, ordering Gre-Aeg.
>
> How do these ideas grab you:
>
> Ven S Tri - Tyr
> Alb - Tri
> Ion S Gre - Aeg
> Rum S Ser - Bud (or Rum - Sev)
> Bla S Rum (or S Rum - Sev)
> Ank - Arm
> Bul - Con
> Smy - Con
>
As far as my moves, I don't think I need to support myself into Tyrolia.
Germany and I are in negotiations right now and it looks like Ven-Tyr will
have his blessing this spring. I think I'm going to order Ven-Tyr; Tri-Vie;
Alb-Tri unless you think those aren't wise moves. It's a beginning to a
demilitarization of the Balkans.
As for your moves, either option has my blessing although I'd lean more
towards Rum s Ser-Bud.
>
> I'm still pretty uncertain about Russian intentions. In any
> case, I'd love to hear what you're getting from him these days.
>
I asked Russia if he would like support into either Budapest or Vienna and
he turned me down siting the Austrian presence in Sev and the German threat.
He did not provide details of what he WAS going to do however.
Message from Italy to France
>
> Any thoughts on what England might do? Anything that
> you have heard that might help me? What has he
> requested from your fleet? Has he made any offers?
>
He first asked me if I was interested in participating in the French
destruction. I refused so he obviously made no requests of my fleet.
> My first impression is to ask you to support Brest to the
> MAO. I know it is a bit of a risk, but I am getting a
> bit desperate. I ask you to make that your default order
> and I will study the map at lunch today.
>
England did ask one thing - that I not support action into the MAO. Quite
frankly, I'd rather not as a retreat to North Africa would tie up one of my
fleets in the defense of Tunis. Can I make my default order Wes s
Mar-Spa/sc? That would give you (hopefully) three fleets on the MAO in the
fall.
> Go ahead and use the new army in the East. Right now
> there is little that it can do and it's presence in
> Tyrolia may be just as useful as Piedmont. I realize
> that it will probably not do actively anything useful for
> me, but it may make Germany nervous enough to hesitate.
> That in itself may help.
>
Okay, I won't move to Piedmont and will make an attempt for Tyrolia.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to all
"St. Petersburg Pravda"
January, 1904
"Labor Unrest Worsens"
The work stoppages which have plagued the nation
since Production losses were anounced in 1902 have
worsened due to the flat economic results in 1903.
The employment crisis in Sevastopol, that was brought
about by the decommisioning of the Southern Fleet,
has been exacerbated by the garrisoning of the
Austrian 1st Calavry there last Fall. Czar Nicholas
has pledged that the Austrian 1st Cavalry will be
destroyed this Spring, and their horses slaughtered
to feed the residents of Sevastopol who were uprooted
from their homes last Fall. The Bolsheviks, always
the most radical memebers of the Union movement are
demanding a rethinking of the underlying unionization
strategy, and threatening revolution if there demands
are not met. There are rumors that the Czar's
personal guard are keeping the Royal Yacht, the
Standart, fully stocked, and prepared to leave port
at a moment's notice.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Have you made a decision regarding A Ven, yet?
>
France declined help in Piedmont so I will indeed make an attempt for
Tyrolia this spring. I'm still uncertain whether to support the move or not
though.
> I'd, obviously, love to see Tri-Vie, Alb-Tri, Ven-Tyl
That's the other option other than supporting myself to Tyrolia.
Let me know if you hear anything that may influence my decision.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
>I will make an attempt for Tyrolia this spring.
My thanks.
> > I'd love to see Tri-Vie, Alb-Tri, Ven-Tyl
>the other option [is] supporting myself to Tyrolia.
>Let me know if you hear anything that may influence my decision.
Indications are that Germany is concerned about
an English stab, so Boh-Tyl seems unlikely, especially
since Tri S Ven-Tyl would take Tyl, anyway. I tried
to get Fredd to move Boh-Tyl-Pie last year and he
refused because he didn't want to spook you. He has
less reason to do so, now, would I think.
Nick.
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I understand your concern for a possible English retreat.
But if it occurred, which is not certain, it would most
certainly go towards his Island. England knows that the
Dauphin would go right for his Britain if he left us an
opening. You could easily cover Tunis and we would
support you to the Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
I know it is a lot to ask, but the Dauphin's defense of
France is based on this move.
Actually, I want to know how Ivy can even ask you to not
support efforts to the MAO. First he is allied with
Germany who is attacking Russia, but Russia is still his
good friend, despite his refusing to do anything about
Germany. Then he moves into the North Sea and Germany
does not nothing about it and they remain almost
completely demilitarized. Does he also need to put
limitation on what you can and cannot do to support me in
defending France from him? Kind of unfair don't you
think? :-)
I really need that support for Brest to MAO. Please
reconsider.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
> As far as my moves, I don't think I need to support myself into Tyrolia.
> Germany and I are in negotiations right now and it looks like Ven-Tyr will
> have his blessing this spring.
Most interesting. Surely this means he's planning to cover Munich, either by
withdrawing from France or with Boh-Mun. That army never did do anything
effective; it might as well move back home. At least, it will most likely
move back to Mun or to Sil for an attack on Warsaw.
> I think I'm going to order Ven-Tyr; Tri-Vie;
> Alb-Tri unless you think those aren't wise moves. It's a beginning to a
> demilitarization of the Balkans.
No, I agree that's a better plan than what I proposed. It's quite possible
that both moves will succeed unopposed, and almost certain that one or the
other will. I thank you for Alb-Tri, and will likewise move toward
demilitarizing the Balkans ASAP.
> As for your moves, either option has my blessing although I'd lean more
> towards Rum s Ser-Bud.
I think there's a fairly high chance of Bud S Sev-Rum, Aeg-Bul, which would
defeat Rum's support. If Russia is to be believed, then I feel I should take
the opportunity to destroy Austria's army. Until we see what happens in the
north, it may be wisest to keep Russia alive; I'm strongly thinking about
going along with the Russian plan, which I outlined earlier, and then moving
Sev-Rum, Ser S Rum-Bud in the fall, leaving Sev for Russia.
The advantages to this plan are that Austria will be eliminated this year, it
will give us each a build, and prop up Russia a bit so that GE have at least
some opposition up north. The obvious drawback is that with Gre-Aeg, then F
Aeg is sure to retreat to Bul or Smy. This could be countered in Bul with
Bla/Con, and in Smy with Con/Arm, but this pretty well defeats the purpose of
Gre-Aeg, which was to drive the Austrian fleet to EMS.
Anyway, what would you think of such a plan? If you agree, then I'd ask that
you hold in Greece, rather than forcing Aeg. This would give me greater
flexibility going forward since I will finally have no foreign fleets off the
shores of Turkey. In any case, by all accounts Austria should cease to exist
this year, and his fleet will cease to be a problem.
I look forward to your reply at your earliest opportunity.
Ali
Message [from France] to all
>I think, therefore I exist.
On an evening such as this,
It's hard to believe that I exist
- Bare Naked Ladies
>Czar Nicholas
>has pledged that the Austrian 1st Cavalry will be
>destroyed this Spring, and their horses slaughtered
>to feed the residents of Sevastopol who were uprooted
>from their homes last Fall.
I heartily suggest that you choose the tail end of the horse. Everyone
knows that it is the best part. We enjoy it so much we often act like
one.
- Buck Naked Gentlemen
Message from Italy to Germany
I thank you in advance for allowing me to move to Tyrolia unopposed. I will
remember that I owe you a favor.
> However, as before, I really want to see it move out
> again. Can we agree that the visit will be for only
> one turn?
>
I want to make sure we agree on the definition of "one turn". Does that
mean moving in this spring and then out again this fall? Or, moving in this
spring and then out again next spring after using it to take Vienna from the
Huns?
Either way is actually fine by me. I just want to make sure there are no
misunderstandings. I suppose it's possible, depending on the actions of
BUD/GAL (and BOH), that I may still be in TYR after the fall even though I
tried to exit. I hope you wouldn't hold that against me.
btw, if I happen to get lucky enough to get another build this year, it will
most definitely be a fleet. I don't see an army build for Italy again
without your prior approval.
> Closer to the truth is that it's my belief that you
> will be under attack from your eastern neighbor
> soon enough.
It's certainly possible although I would suspect that my fleet advantage
would make him less likely to stab.
> Like I said many moons ago, I can forsee an IG
> alliance in the midgame being quite productive.
>
I hope so. If the game remains along the same path, we will find ourselves
between two corner powers both of whom have better natural defensive
positions than ourselves. A cooperative effort could be very beneficial to
us both.
>
> It's true that I have no designs on French centers.
>
Hmmmm, interesting. Then why the move to Burgundy? Will you be helping
England in anyway against France? The slower English progress against
France, the better for the both of us, no?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to England
France has requested Wes s Bre-Mao. I refused and he asked me to reconsider
as "defense of France is based on this move". I find myself between a rock
and a hard place - not wanting to support action in the MAO but also not
wanting to tip off France to my fleets true intention. Do you have a
suggestion of what I can tell France?
Roberto
Message [from Turkey] to all
DATELINE: CONSTANTINOPLE
The official Turkish news agency announced today
that Sultan Suleiman, the Turkish ceremonial head
of state, is dead. The circumstances surrounding
the Sultan's death were not immediately made public.
Several witnesses to the elaborate state funeral
claim that the corpse on display, while bearing a
resemblance to the Sultan, was not actually that of
Suleiman himself.
The surprise announcement comes at a time when
the Turkish countryside is being ravaged by civil
war, and amidst growing concern about the mental
stability of Ali Baba, who continues to hold power
under the declaration of martial law following
last year's riots. Baba has been seen in public
muttering about how his "voices" will guide his
hand in military affairs, and several top generals
within the Turkish armed forces have either been
placed under house arrest or have fled the country.
Baba's personal security forces continue to
control the capital city, despite growing public
opinion against him. Though most Turks have been
hard-hit by rampant inflation as a result of the
war, Baba has repeatedly imposed harsh new taxes
to fund his military machine. The plight of the
Turkish peasants, many of whom are starving, stands
in sharp contrast to the lavish parties that have
frequently been held for top Italian officials.
Meanwhile, accusations of rampant corruption
within Baba's government are widespread. Many of
Baba's relatives and political supporters have been
installed in Turkey's recently-nationalized ship-
building industry, and are reportedly receiving
lucrative paychecks despite the fact that Turkish
shipyards have been mothballed for years.
Disturbing reports have also reached the city
that rival warlords have begun fighting openly
throughout the Turkish countryside. In one such
outbreak in Ankara, Baba's forces moved in to
observe but did nothing to resolve the conflict.
As the warring factions fought each other to a
standstill, it appeared that Baba was content to
let both sides demolish each other. Once the
bloodshed had ended, soldiers from both sides were
quickly conscripted into a new regular army unit.
Although Baba claims that the new force will be
used to help "liberate" southern Russia from its
Austrian occupation forces, outside observers have
noted that the commanders, chosen personally by
Baba, are generally believed to be responsible for
most of the pillaging, looting and other atrocities
committed during the Ankara conflict. In addition,
sources in Vienna now claim that European leaders
are closer than ever to charging Baba himself with
crimes against humanity.
Message from England to Italy
>France has requested Wes s Bre-Mao. ... Do you have a
>suggestion of what I can tell France?
I was afraid this would happen.
You've got to do what you think is best for you in the long run, even
though it will make someone unhappy. Neither an unhappy France nor an
unhappy England will be in any position to take retribution for a long
time. Well, my fleet in North Africa would be a nuissance, but it wouldn't
be fatal.
You might say that, while you are willing to anger England by taking a
pro-French stand, a mid-Atlantic action that completely ruined the EG
attack would distress Germany as well. While you have no love whatsoever
for Germany, you are not ready to provoke him. You have been making "nice
talk" to Germany as insurance against Turkish treachery. You would like to
see a little longer cooperation from Turkey and gain at least one more army
yourself before irritating Germany. Perhaps saying that Germany explicitly
asked you not to go beyond Gibralter would be overdoing it.
There is also that problem of my retreat to North Africa. You are not
ready to handle that until the Austrian fleet is gone. If England is in
North Africa, you have no convenient way to protect Tunis and keep Austria
out of the Ionian. It can be done, but it would really mess up your
position and make you even more vulnerable to Turkey.
That's the best I can do.
Good luck,
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
I must admit, you are a good diplomat!
All of what you say is actually true. I will do my best to ease France's
unhappiness. Rest assured, I will not support action in the MAO.
Thank you for your thoughts.
Roberto
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
>Rest assured, I will not support action in the MAO.
Thank you. I am aware that this is a major decision on your part.
Ivy
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> I think there's a fairly high chance of Bud S Sev-Rum,
> Aeg-Bul, which would defeat Rum's support.
That would appear to be the most obvious move; but, then again, when has
Austria made the most obvious move?
> If Russia is to be believed, then I feel I should take
> the opportunity to destroy Austria's army.
>
I'm a bit hesitant to believe Russia will order War-Mos; Gal-Ukr. Germany
can guarantee STP with Pru-War; Gob s Lvn-STP. I highly doubt Russia is
willing to give up two centers to Germany just to seek revenge against
Austria all with the hope that you'll give him SEV in the fall for what, to
have to remove a unit anyway. Something just doesn't add up here.
> Until we see what happens in the north, it may be wisest
> to keep Russia alive;
I definitely think Russia can be a useful resource but I don't think he's
going to fight off Germany just to have your armies march up his rear-end.
He's been unusually silent about his moves this spring which leads me to
believe he doesn't want me to pass on information to you. I smell a rat but
that just might be this morning's road-kill still in my nose.
What Russia would do other than follow the outlined plan is anybody's guess.
I would be shocked to see any cooperation between Austria and Russia this
year. However, I don't think anyone in this game will just throw their
hands up and quit. We'll all fight to the bitter end.
>
> The advantages to this plan are that Austria will be
> eliminated this year,
>
I would be in favor of any plan that eliminated Austria this year.
>
> then I'd ask that you hold in Greece, rather than forcing Aeg.
>
I'll do what you want with Greece/Ion. I've altered their orders to
hold/support. Let me know if you want me to change them back to force the
Aegean.
As I talk with England/France, I'd actually prefer to force Austria to the
EMS.
That would enable me to move Ion-Tun; Aeg-Ion and I wouldn't have to worry
about an English retreat to NAF as much were it dislodged.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to France
>
> I understand your concern for a possible English retreat.
> But if it occurred, which is not certain, it would most
> certainly go towards his Island.
>
Unfortunately, Ivy has told me otherwise. He said if I supported action in
the MAO that caused a dislodgement, he would retreat to North Africa. It
could be a bluff but I would tend to believe him.
> You could easily cover Tunis and we would
> support you to the Mid-Atlantic Ocean.
>
The Austrian fleet makes covering Tunis a bit of risk. Under no
circumstances do I want to allow him into the Ionean and I don't want to
allow England into the Western Med (and I'm fairly confident you don't want
Ivy in the West Med either). I don't like to make 'guess' orders when I
don't have too but I'd put myself in that situation wondering how to cover
Tunis and Greece and the Ionean and the Western Med in the fall.
>
> I really need that support for Brest to MAO. Please
> reconsider.
>
Is there anyway this support can wait for the fall? I'm still uncertain as
to the true intentions of the Turk and I've been trying to keep good
relations with Germany "just in case". I fear that hindering the EG attack
would provoke the German so as to lose my opportunity to eliminate Austria.
If I can add one more unit and eliminate the Austrian fleet, I'd be fully
prepared to support you into the MAO. I hope you understand my thought
process.
I've thought about this most of the day and I just can't get my fingers to
type the order. I truly am sorry. I do have a support order in place for
Mar-Spa/sc. If you want me to eliminate that support let me know. Perhaps
it would be an option for us to bounce in Spain this spring? Just a
thought.
Anyway, I wish Austria had disbanded his fleet but as long as my Ionean
fleet is distracted, I'm just not comfortable with the possibility of an
English fleet in North Africa. He may move there anyway and I'll have to
deal with it regardless but at least I wouldn't have felt like I contributed
to the move.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Thanks for your reply. You raise some good points, and I have been wondering
myself why Russia would act as he says he's going to.
On the other hand, the Turkish orders that Russia is requesting don't seem to
put me at risk. At worst would be Gal S Bud-Rum, but that just trades Rum for
Sev, and I don't see Austria abandoning Bud that way. Also, what would Russia
gain from it?
In terms of Ion-Tun, Aeg-Ion in the fall, that would be jeopardized should
Austria end up in Bul as I expect. So, if we go with the Gre-Aeg plan, then
I'll clearly need to bounce in Con or something so that EMS is the only
retreat option.
The best-case scenario under Russia's plan would be Aeg-Smy. That could be
harmlessly dislodged in the fall, and still allow Ion-Tun, Gre-Ion. Any
thoughts on how we might leak word to Austria that Smy will be vacated in the
spring?
In any case, I appreciate your flexibility. Let's sleep on it and see if we
get any further intelligence from the others. I will write again tomorrow, or
sooner if I hear anything of value.
Best regards,
Ali
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> In any case, I appreciate your flexibility. Let's sleep on
> it and see if we get any further intelligence from the
> others. I will write again tomorrow, or
> sooner if I hear anything of value.
>
The deadline is tonight! No sleeping on it unfortunately.
I've lost track. Remind me again of what Russia has asked for?
What are the drawbacks to the following orders (if any):
rum-sev
bla s rum-sev
ank-arm
bul-con
arm-con
ser-bud
gre-aeg
ion s gre-aeg
tri-vie
ven-tyr
alb-tri
Is Bud-Rum a problem under this scenario? There would seem to be more fire
power than necessary to kick him out in the fall.
Am I looking at the map thru rose-colored glasses?
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Indications are that Germany is concerned about
> an English stab, so Boh-Tyl seems unlikely, especially
> since Tri S Ven-Tyl would take Tyl, anyway.
>
He has given his blessing for Ven-Tyr asking only that it remain for a
single turn. Once I'm there or course, I'll have to reevaluate what exactly
"one turn" means. :)
> I tried
> to get Fredd to move Boh-Tyl-Pie last year and he
> refused because he didn't want to spook you.
>
He never brought this subject up. I actually was expecting him to move to
Tyrolia though and was happy to see that he didn't.
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
> The deadline is tonight! No sleeping on it unfortunately.
Egad! Thanks, I was just looking at the date and not paying enough attention
to the time.
> I've lost track. Remind me again of what Russia has asked for?
Russia's proposal:
War - Mos
Gal - Ukr
Bla S Rum - Sev
Bul - Rum
Ank - Arm
Smy - Con
Ser - Bud
The premise is that Austrian A Sev is destroyed, and A Bud is unable to move
to any supply center. If Aeg-Bul, then I counter with Bla/Con against Bul.
If Aeg-Smy, then I counter with Con/Arm.
> What are the drawbacks to the following orders (if any):
>
> rum-sev
> bla s rum-sev
> ank-arm
> bul-con
> arm-con
> ser-bud
>
> gre-aeg
> ion s gre-aeg
> tri-vie
> ven-tyr
> alb-tri
>
> Is Bud-Rum a problem under this scenario? There would seem to be more fire
> power than necessary to kick him out in the fall.
No drawbacks at all, given IT considerations. But it gives me no supported
shot on Bud in the fall, and Ser S Rum-Bud would allow me to vacate Sev to
Russia.
> Am I looking at the map thru rose-colored glasses?
No, but perhaps I am. I agree that your plan is simpler, but it pretty well
requires that I hold onto Sev instead of possibly leaving it for Russia. Of
course, there's the chance that under the Russian plan, Bul-Rum might bounce
anyway. In any case, if Bul/Smy bounce in Con, it gives us less firepower on
Bud in the fall.
I dunno, am I making this too complicated?
Ali
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Well I sent that last press about 4 hours ago, and only now got
confirmation. Seems the judge was down for a bit. At present my orders are
in as described in the "Russia" plan. If you'd rather go with our original
combination, please let me know. I'll be checking my mail several times
tonight.
Ali
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I do understand all your reasons. It is just
frustrating to be always told to wait or perhaps next
season. I am fighting for my life here. Preventing EG
from running me over is important to you (see below).
Will that ever take priority?
I will study the map some more and see if I can come up
with and alternative. Meanwhile have you considered
just giving me the support and then giving Ivy and
ultimatium of your own. Tell him if he retreats to
North Africa then he will be your sworn enemy for life
without any chance of ever reconciling it. Does he want
to take that step? You are a great diplomat, at least
as good as Ivy. It is evident in that you keep putting
me off and I am not really that upset about it, so far.
I must admit that I am again disappointed though. You
said that you would help me, but in your letter you talk
about not wanting to hinder the EG attack on France. It
is in your best interest to impede it. Do you want them
to get that large?? If you stonewall England he is
likely to stab Germany, which is exactly what you want!
You want them fighting so they are not a threat to you!
Sigh. OK, where did I put that #%&* map.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Italy to Turkey
> At present my orders are in as described in the "Russia" plan.
> If you'd rather go with our original combination, please let me
> know. I'll be checking my mail several times tonight.
Greece hold; Ionean support Greece have been ordered.
Let's hope our results are as positive as they have been in the past.
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Message received.
> Let's hope our results are as positive as they have been in the past.
I'm feeling fairly confident they will be. Worst case scenario is that you
bounce Tyr or Vie, and I either bounce Sev or lose Rum. Neither condidion
prevents my supporting you to Bud in the fall and also making another
attempt from Arm. And, my sense is that this gives us the best shot of
eliminating Austria outright this year. Whatever happens, we should be in
good shape for fall.
Best regards,
Ali
Message from England to all
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some power's orders.
What is this? A novice game?
Message [from Germany] to all
His royal majesty King Frederick XXXVILLMCMMM would like to add to the
outstanding press reports originating in other neighboring countries.
We have good beer.
Our girls are cute, and wear short skirts.
Yes indeedy
Tah
Message from Germany to Italy
Roberto:
Stabbed anyone lately? Life is good. You've done it twice and seem
to have gotten away with it both times. ;-)
I was thinking that one turn would be one spring or fall. This is what
I thought your moves would be. This turn VEN - TYR supported by TRI.
In the fall TYR-VIE supported by TRI. Is this not what you had in
mind?
Fredd
Message from Germany to Italy
R.
Yes, I'm planning on helping England against France with my army in
BUR. However, I might not do that this turn. RE:NTH Sorry I can't
tell you more.
Fredd
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
>He has given his blessing for Ven-Tyr asking only that it remain for a
>single turn. Once I'm there I'll have to reevaluate what exactly "one
>turn" means. :)
No, No, honor your agreement, move Tyl-Mun in the
Fall! ;-) Though Tyl-Sil has potential, too, if you
get Vie this Spring, and don't have to defend it.
> > I tried to get Fredd to move Boh-Tyl-Pie last year
>I was expecting him to move to Tyrolia
>though and was happy to see that he didn't.
My reasons for making the suggestion were, of
course, to avoid Boh-Sil, and because the move to
Pie would have cracked France like an egg. (Not
that I wanted to see that happen, but it was a good
move for Germany.)
Nick.
Message from England to all
>What is this? A novice game?
Oops. That was supposed to be a gray broadcast.
The jury is instructed to disregard ...
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
I will be out of town from about noon today through Sunday evening. Please
mind the store.
Ivy
Message from England to all
I am off to visit my citizens in Aquitaine. Be back Sunday evening.
Ivy
Message from France to all
>Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some
>power's orders.
What the???????
I have at least a half dozen reply messages from the
Judge in my mail box that say:
>: Judge: USIN Game: Titleist Variant: Standard Gunboat
>: Deadline: S1904M Thu Aug 23 2001 04:30:00 +0000
I am late because I specifically planned for a thursday
deadline. I checked several times on Wednesday to verify
that I had a Thursday deadline. The judge went down Wed
evening and when it came up the deadline was suddenly Wed
and not Thur!!
Did anyone esle notice this?
What is going on??
Can we reset the deadline for tonight?
I was up most the night with work and just crawled out of
bed, blurry-eye to find this mess.
France
Message [from Russia] to all
>Broadcast message from France in 'titleist':
>
> >Diplomacy game 'titleist' is waiting for some
> >power's orders.
>What the???????
>
>I have at least a half dozen reply messages from the
>Judge in my mail box that say:
> >: Judge: USIN Game: Titleist Variant: Standard Gunboat
> >: Deadline: S1904M Thu Aug 23 2001 04:30:00 +0000
>I am late because I specifically planned for a thursday
>deadline. What is going on??
04:30 +0000 Thursday is 11:30 pm Wednesday Eastern time.
Perhaps you should update your registration and set your
timezone.
Message from Master to all
The F1903B orders processed at 00:24:44 on Aug 21. The new deadline
was set for 23:30:00 on Aug 22, in accordance with the 47 hour deadlines.
Everyone's moves are due, please submit them with promptly.
Doug
Message from Italy to Germany
>
> Stabbed anyone lately? Life is good. You've done it
> twice and seem to have gotten away with it both times.
>
And I'm quite positive I won't get away with it a third time.
> This turn VEN - TYR supported by TRI.
> In the fall TYR-VIE supported by TRI.
>
> Is this not what you had in mind?
>
Pretty darn close. I just wanted to point out that I can't predict what GAL
& BUD with do (and for that matter Serbia as well) and it's possible,
although unlikely, that I would still be in Tyrolia in the fall even though
I tried to move to Vienna. Didn't want that to be held against me.
Roberto
Message from Italy to Germany
> Yes, I'm planning on helping England against France
> with my army in BUR. However, I might not do that
> this turn.
Fair enough.
> RE:NTH Sorry I can't tell you more.
>
I know why England moved to the North Sea. No explanation necessary.
Roberto
Message from France to all
My link to my e-mail is down.
I am sneaking this message out a different way.
I have not seen any mail since I sent my last broadcast
I hope it will be fixed this afternoon.
Otherwise I will be out of touch until
I get home tonight.
France
Message from France to all
OK, I got connected to my e-mail. I am sending in orders
with this message. Sorry for the delay.
Can someone give the idiot's guide explanation for this:
>04:30 +0000 Thursday is 11:30 pm Wednesday Eastern time.
>Perhaps you should update your registration and set your
>timezone.
Do you mean the registration with the judge? Or is there
something on my computer that I need to do.
I have never noticed this difference before. It might be
something between home and work.
Thanks,
France
Austria: Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast) (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Budapest → Rumania (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Sevastopol → Moscow (*bounce, destroyed*)
England: Army Belgium SUPPORT Fleet English Channel → Picardy
England: Fleet English Channel → Picardy
England: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean SUPPORT Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet North Sea → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Brest → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony → Burgundy
France: Fleet Marseilles → Spain (south coast)
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT German Army Burgundy → Belgium (*void, dislodged*)
France: Fleet Portugal → Mid-Atlantic Ocean (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Bohemia → Silesia
Germany: Army Burgundy → Ruhr
Germany: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia SUPPORT Army Prussia → Livonia
Germany: Fleet Livonia → Baltic Sea
Germany: Army Prussia → Livonia
Germany: Army Ruhr → Kiel
Italy: Army Albania → Trieste
Italy: Fleet Greece HOLD
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Greece
Italy: Army Trieste → Vienna
Italy: Army Venice → Tyrolia
Italy: Fleet Western Mediterranean SUPPORT French Fleet Marseilles → Spain (south coast)
Russia: Army Galicia → Ukraine
Russia: Fleet St Petersburg (south coast) CONVOY English Army Belgium → Berlin
Russia: Army Warsaw → Moscow (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Ankara → Armenia
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Rumania → Sevastopol
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Rumania (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Sevastopol
Turkey: Army Serbia → Budapest (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Smyrna → Constantinople
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