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Message from Austria to France
Was the Burgundy bounce pre-arranged? Neither Mar-Bur nor
Mun-Bur is particularly common; both at once makes them seem
coordinated.
The most interesting dynamic seems to stem from Russia's
northern opening. That will tend to distract England's
attention from the west. Neither EG nor EF will succeed very
quickly. FG, on the other hand, might succeed very quickly
indeed.
Good luck.
Felicia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from England to France
Good Prince,
All is calm in the Channel. No surprises either in Galicia, Tyrolia, Black
Sea, Trieste, etc. To the best of my knowledge, all bounces were arranged.
The Russian move to StP surprised me, but I don't think I should be overly
concerned. Prior to the move Nicky indicated he was very nervous about
being bounced in Sweden. A Smoke screen? If StP was really anti-English,
I probably will be the last to know.
We have several things to talk about. Start with Burgundy. What do I say
to Germany if he wants to hit Burgundy again? He expected you to cover
Burgundy with Paris as long as needed, so that it would remain hopeless for
him to get in there. I didn't bother to tell him that Paris was going to
Picardy. Now that Picardy is aimed at Belgium, and Marseilles is eyeing
Spain, Freddy will consider Burgundy. Especially so, since Tyrolia is
vacant. I can't just say, "no Freddy, don't go there. It doesn't fit with
EG plans." It might be best for me to say nothing, but Germany may ask me
a direct question. Well, I'll think about this. You too, please. I need
something plausible to say.
I would also appreciate your take on how you think the east is shaping up.
Russia's placing of two units in the north suggests that he is somewhat
confident of the south. I've also been under the impression that Turkey
and Italy hit it off fairly well. What I fear most is something like a
fast RIT crushing of Austria followed by a continued RT push.
Now, on to Belgium & Holland & possible builds. Let's see if I can offer a
few thoughts of my own without damaging our growing trust.
Bouncing Germany in Holland may be my least attractive option. It doesn't
even guarantee me a build, because Norway is not really 100% certain.
Also, I would rather not start our partnership with a 6-4 imbalance.
Earlier, we discussed possible Belgium neutrality but only gave it a word
or two. Bouncing in Belgium is still an option, but it is less than
imperative now, because Germany is no longer a threat to take Belgium.
Consider permitting me to go to Belgium with certain safeguards and/or
conditions attached. For example, you get Belgium once Belgium takes
Holland. Or, if I take Belgium now, then I don't build a fleet in London
or Yorkshire, or even postpone a build. I'm just thinking out loud right
now and am not sure just what is best for us.
More: England/France can get stuck against Germany, if Russia supports
Germany in the north. This suggests that we (separately) suggest that
Germany bounce Russia in Sweden in order to foster German/Russian
hostility? Yes? No?
Afterthought: should I actually encourage Germany to go for Burgundy and
you bounce it with Picardy? The advantage is that Freddy's obvious
alternative move to Ruhr permits him to build another army on your border
in Munich.
Yours,
Ivy
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 6&7 Results:
First, I wanted to wish everyone a very happy Bastille
Day. This being our national holiday, I have been busy
with festivities and have not been very communicative. I
apologize for that. But sometimes, the people are more
important than my neighbors in Europe. I even missed an
update on the Tour de France. Fittingly a Frenchman took
today's stage. Although he rides for a team in a
different country, we take pride in his accomplishment
all the same. This is his second stage and gives the
Turk's 20 points and a tie for first in the standings.
The prior stage was taking by Jaan Kirsipuu from AG2R.
He rides for none of our teams.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 10 points
Turkey (CSC): 20 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Jens Voigt (C.A.) 29 hours, 51 minutes, 29 seconds
2. Laurent Jalabert (CSC/Tascali) @ 2:34
5. Igor G. Galdeano (ONC) @ 5:00
9. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ 5:20
15. Lance Armstrong (USP) @ 5:56
19. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ 6:23
Current Leaders:
Yellow Jersey: Jens Voigt [50 points] - no one
Green Jersey: Erik Zabel [20 points] - Germany
Polkadot Jersey: Patrice Halgand [20 points] - no one
Message from France to Austria
Ms. Felicia:
I am sure that the bounce in Burgundy is equivalent to
the bounce in Trieste.
You must have a strong relationship with Russia. You
both left Galicia open. That shows a lot of trust on
both your parts. Russia went further to send an extra
North. Is that boldness, trustfulness, or cockiness?
Perhaps a bit of all three.
You and Italy must be pleased with the Bounce in the
Black Sea. It keeps Turkish fleets out of the
Mediterranean, just a bit longer. Although he can now
move Ankara to Constantinople and still build in Smyrna.
All-in-all a nice opening for both of us. My
congratulations to you and your leaders.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I was very surprised to see the Russia move to St.
Petersburg. I have never heard it explained to be a move
against Germany. Perhaps it helps him get to Sweden.
But it can easily bounce you in Norway or set himself up
to move on Norway. This is especially true if Germany
allows him into Sweden. That would be three units on
Norway.
Before we get too serious about our talks on Belgium, let
me see what I can learn from Russia. I will write him
next.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
A very bold opening move! I was surprised to see you in
St. Petersburg. Now you have England in a pickle. Does
he risk not supporting himself into Norway? He could end
up without a build. He could also have two builds if he
neighbors were nice. I would love to hear more about
your reasonings and your thoughts.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
The Dauhphin grunt a thank you to you, which I am passing
on. Let me add to his eloquence. This was a great
beginning for us. More than just choosing a set of
military operations, we have start a long relationship.
One where we watch each other's back and defend one key
border for each other. We each must hope that the other
propsers. Yes there will be worries if the other
prospers too much. But we can find ways to work things
out. One nice thing about our friendship is the distance
between us. A quick stab is impossible.
You must also be pleased that Turkish fleets will not be
in the Mediterranean in the fall. He will likely have
one eyeing the waters, but none will be on the waters.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Turkey
Ali Baba:
A nice start for you. Russia sent a unit North, hence
you have less worries than you might. There is currently
no one in Rumania, therefore you can afford to move
Ankara to Constantinople, if you so please. I suppose
that you would still have Smyrna covered, so that does
not buy you anything. Perhaps taking the Black Sea is
stronger. I am sure that you will do the smartest thing.
Are you worried about the strong display of trust between
Russia and Austria (no one moved to Galicia)?
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
I am pleased with the first moves. Italy bother neither
of us and Russia annoyed England. We each should be
happy. We each also kept our word about our moves. A
great beginning.
What do you think about the Russian move to ST. Petes.
It slows down England. Can you afford to let Russia have
Sweden? If England is hampered and Russia is strong (he
appears to have Rumania in hand and strong relationships
in the south), that could be trouble for us.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Austria to France
> I am sure that the bounce in Burgundy is equivalent to
> the bounce in Trieste.
No, not exactly. But perhaps the effects are similar.
> You must have a strong relationship with Russia. You
> both left Galicia open. That shows a lot of trust on
> both your parts. Russia went further to send an extra
> North. Is that boldness, trustfulness, or cockiness?
> Perhaps a bit of all three.
His was the most adventurous opening of 1901; but there wasn't
much competition for that title.
> You and Italy must be pleased with the Bounce in the
> Black Sea. It keeps Turkish fleets out of the
> Mediterranean, just a bit longer. Although he can now
> move Ankara to Constantinople and still build in Smyrna.
Of course. Slow, cautious, and solid.
> All-in-all a nice opening for both of us. My congratulations
> to you and your leaders.
There was a question (from our ambassador in Italy, I believe)
about how France would tend to react to Tunis being occupied by
a fleet, as opposed to an army. I speculated that France might
prefer an army there, but some guidance from you would not be
unwelcome.
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
> A very bold opening move! I was surprised to see you in
> St. Petersburg. Now you have England in a pickle. Does
> he risk not supporting himself into Norway?
While Russia can survive without St. Petersburg, (or Sevastopol), I did
not feel that I could risk writing off my Scandinavian interests this early,
particularly since I hope to do more than just survive the opening.
Hopefully
it won't cost me unduly in the south. Germany was unwilling to acknowledge
the justice of my desire to bring Sweden into the EEU under Russian control,
so I felt that sending an Army to Finland this Fall was necessary. England
has said that he plans to take Nwy with a Fleet, so I don't plan to oppose
his
move. Of course, if you end up allied with Germany, that second Unit in
Scandinavia will prove extremely useful. Have you given any further
consideration to joining the EEU?
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from England to France
Good Prince,
I cannot remember ever passing on someone else's mail, but I am sorely
tempted to show you what Russia sent. I will restrain myself and
paraphrase. What he said seems to be incredibly honest, but
unintentionally revealing.
Essentially he said that he doesn't want an EF alliance. He prefers EG or
FG and would gladly help the winner against Germany afterwards. This just
has to be true, but I am astonished he would say it our loud in such an
undiplomatic manner. In other words he doesn't care a whit about you and
me as long as one of us is dead. It doesnt matter which of us dies. He
wants us to play gladiator in the arena for his pleasure.
Well, screw him. Let's see him get down in the dirt and risk his own neck.
This is not typical talk from me. [Good Old Doug, who has read so much of
my mail for so long now, knows that I don't normally talk or write this
way. But Good Old Doug can't permit himself to comment, unfortunately. It
just occurred to me that Good Old Doug could be shortened to GOD. How
appropriate!]
There. I feel better.
yours,
Ivy
Message [from Russia] to all
Tsar Nicholas,
I would like to bring your attention to a most serious problem facing our
fatherland. We are almost bankrupt. The agriculture minister is failing
in his duty to feed us, and our industry, while great, is backward
compared to the great European powers. We must take steps now to
secure a strong foundation for our future economic growth.
Russia more than any other country needs a proper economic foundation
for her national policy and culture. International competition does not
wait. If we do not take energetic and decisive measures so that in the
course of the next decades our industry will be able to satisfy the needs
of Russia and of the Asiatic countries which are---or should be---under
our influence, then the rapidly growing foreign industries will break
through our tariff barriers and establish themselves in our fatherland and
the Asiatic countries mentioned above. Our economic backwardness
may lead to political and cultural backwardness as well.
In order to modernize our industry and provide this secure foundation, I
propose that we undertake to greatly increase the breadth and scope of
our railroads. The presence of railroads, especially in the far reaches of
our interior provinces is vital to tying our economy together and reaching
our production goals. This railroad must stretch from St Petersburg, to
Moscow, to the ore fields of the Ukraine. It must reach from the
granaries of Warsaw to the farthest village in Siberia and the eastern
coast of our great country. Only with a strong, vibrant railroad, can we
unite our country and at the same time provide our military with the
transportation backbone needed to protect our national security from the
imperial powers of the west.
In this let us learn from the United States, whose Trans-continental
railroad has opened the vast expanses of territory purchased by Tomas
Jefferson. We have an even greater expanse of earth to unite, let it be
by rail!
In order to fund this effort, we will need capitol. I estimate that it
will take the resources of fourteen additional great cities such as
St. Petersburg to supply the vital expansion of our industry. Some of
this will come from the benefit of the railroad itself. Efficiency in
production and shipping will pick up some of the slack. However,
every effort must still be given to obtaining the resources of Europe for
our growth. Whether this be by trade or by conquest, I will leave for
you and our generals to decide. I beg of you not to let this matter drop.
If we do not obtain these resources, I fear that 100 years from now, our
country will be as backwards as it is today, while the great powers of the
west, and perhaps even the pitiful United States of America will have
passed us in all areas of greatness. I do not wish to see our fatherland
exploited by the European powers like they have Africa and the isles of
the sea.
I await your comments.
Respectfully,
Sergei Witte
Minster of Finance
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 8 Results:
Rabobank's Erik Dekker (RAB) sprinted to a wet and cold
stage victory Sunday in Pontarlier beating other
breakaway companions Stuart O'Grady (CA), fifth today,
will again wear the yellow leader's jersey. The main
peloton finished 35 minutes behind. Can the top
contenders make up that difference in the Mountains?
The Russian pick up their second stage and now join the
tie for the lead.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 0 points
Russia (Robobank): 20 points
Turkey (CSC): 20 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O_Grady (C.A.) 34-hours 57-minutes 18-seconds
3. Bram De Groot (RAB) @ 21:16
11. Laurent Jalabert (CSC) @ 31:57
12. Bobby Julich (C.A.) @ 33:49
13. Igor G. Galdeano (ONC) @34:23
17. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ 34:43
24. Lance Armtrong (USP) @ 35:19
27. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ 35:46
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to England
ivy:
Sorry for my relative silence this weekend. It was a bus
one. I even was late in calling my mother, who had
surgery during the week. Bad, bad, son.
Thank you for telling me about your message from Russia.
I guess it is surprising that he would be arrogant to
tell you that. He has not sent me exactly the same
message but he is open about the fact that he feels
England is difficult to eliminate and would not be
against seeing you eliminated. I cannot say he is
actively advocating it, but it is easy to read between
the lines.
He say to me that he has no plans to deny you Norway
since you are taking it with a fleet. However, based on
the above, I wonder if he is being honest. If Germany
allows him Sweden, and he bounces you, he can go for
Norway. Perhaps worse would be for you to take Norway
with little backup (i.e. a fleet) and have him being in
Sweden, St. Petes, and Finland. You might be wise to put
your army there. If you did, I would move Picardy to
Burgundy, or at least attempt to do so.
Admittedly the other option is for you to move your army
to Belgium and move your fleet to Norway. It either
bounces or nets you a build. I am a bit nervous about
that, I must admit. Our relationship is growing strong
but it is still new. Would you be willing to compenstate
for your being in Belgium by allowing me a fleet in
Brest? It would not leave the coastline.
I will unfortunately be busy with work. I will check for
mail at lunchtime and will be available in the evening.
will you be available this evening to hash things out, if
necessary?
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Austria
Ms. Felicia:
I am sorry that my answer about the bounce was so
flippant. My answer was meant to be an answer. Since I
believe your bounce in Trieste was pre-planned, I assume
that you would understand that my bounce in Burgundy was
pre-planned. It is, however, a statement of a lack of
trust between Germany and France. I assume the same is
true for Austria and Italy. You apparently trust Russia
more?
As for the Italian fleet in Tunis. It seems a weaker
move. He should keep his fleet in the Ionian in order to
keep his options open. If Roberto wishes to discuss it
further with France, he should do so himself. I am
available. I do appreciate your starting the
discussions, but it seems more appropriate for him and I
to carry on those conversations.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Good Prince,
>I even was late in calling my mother, who had
>surgery during the week.
I hope she is fine.
>Thank you for telling me about your message from Russia.
>I guess it is surprising that he would be arrogant to
>tell you that.
I over reacted a little.
>He say to me that he has no plans to deny you Norway
>since you are taking it with a fleet. However, based on
>the above, I wonder if he is being honest.
At the opening of the game I told Russia that I would take Norway with a
fleet in order to demonstrate good will. Generally Russia feels more
threatened with an Army in Norway. I wanted to take my chances within the
EFG triangle without outside interference. Obviously, I didn't get what I
wanted.
>If Germany
>allows him Sweden, and he bounces you, he can go for
>Norway. Perhaps worse would be for you to take Norway
>with little backup (i.e. a fleet) and have him being in
>Sweden, St. Petes, and Finland. You might be wise to put
>your army there. If you did, I would move Picardy to
>Burgundy, or at least attempt to do so.
I am leaning that way. The only difficulty is that an army in Norway will
guarantee a Russian build in StP, even if he wasn't going to do it
originally. If I am confident that Russia will build in StP no matter what
I do, then the army is the right decision.
>
>Admittedly the other option is for you to move your army
>to Belgium and move your fleet to Norway. It either
>bounces or nets you a build. I am a bit nervous about
>that, I must admit. Our relationship is growing strong
>but it is still new.
Understood. As you can imagine, I have spend a nervous weekend. Any move
I make this turn entails real risks, both tactical risks and risks to
friendships.
>Would you be willing to compenstate
>for your being in Belgium by allowing me a fleet in
>Brest? It would not leave the coastline.
I approve of a fleet in Brest unconditionally and meant to mention this
earlier. I am thinking back to the last time I was France. Building no
fleets is bad for France. Building a fleet in Marseilles this early
invites unwanted trouble in the south. [Unless, you actually want trouble
in the south. Build two fleets and go with a western triple. I am not
entirely serious, but I am still annoyed with Russia.]
>will you be available this evening to hash things out, if
>necessary?
I tend to be available from roughly 6 am eastern to about 6 pm eastern,
because my work is very flexible. I can work or not work at my own
pleasure. Nice huh! I am available from 6 pm eastern to 11 pm about 30%
of the time, and I never know in advance. My modem at home is driving me
insane. It works all day and then usually conks out in the evening or
anytime there is a thunderstorm within 100 miles. I cannot pin down the
problem. In a real emergency I can drive the three miles to work in the
evening to check my mail there.
Let me indulge myself a bit here. I want to quote an expert on
English/French relations, someone by the name of Ivy Wingo 8-). On day 2
in a very early exchange between us I wrote,
"Belgium. I don't care who gets it, but
I do care about the matter of balance that you mentioned earlier. I prefer
not to see a 6-center France, while I have only four. There are lots of
ways around this, but too much is unknown to know so soon what is best.
Will Italy be pounding at your door? Then you may need Belgium. Will
Russia be aiding Germany? Then I probably need Belgium. Will Russia be
attacking Germany? etc. etc. We can even trade Belgium back and forth to
sustain balance, if the the need arises."
Well, it seems that Italy is not at your door, but that Russia is heading
toward mine. If I do get Belgium, this year or next, I consider it to be
only an initial assignment. It can be handed back and forth a million
times as the need arises.
I say this year or next, because I may well support myself into Norway. I
am going crazy trying to make up my mind.
By the way, I have no idea what Germany is going to do, either in Sweden or
in Burgundy. He remains friendly, but there is that communication problem.
He sent me a three sentence "just got back" message with a promise of more
to come today. I am still waiting.
Cordially,
Ivy
Message from Russia to all
> Tour de France Stage 8 Results:
>
> Rabobank's Erik Dekker (RAB) sprinted to a wet and
> cold stage victory Sunday in Pontarlier beating other
> breakaway companions
Ah, the Dekker lad! He's from a good union family, you
know. They are the managing partners in the Black&Decker
tool company.
V. I. Lenin,
European Union Steward for Russia, (and Team Rabobank).
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Openings Diploman, we final got things underway!
DM> Yes, Boy Gambit. The openings were extremely conservative. No one seemed
to want to annoy anyone else.
BG> Well, the Russia seemed to have some balls. He sent an army North, which
sure must annoy Ivy Wingo.
DM> I suppose you are right. Perhaps he is the only one willing to stick his
neck out.
BG> I like that. I think that it is a smart move. A bold move among
conservative ones can make the different and get him a leg up on the
competition.
DM> Or it can set him up for a fall. Only time will tell.
Message from Austria to France
> I am sorry that my answer about the bounce was so
> flippant. My answer was meant to be an answer. Since I
> believe your bounce in Trieste was pre-planned, I assume
> that you would understand that my bounce in Burgundy was
> pre-planned. It is, however, a statement of a lack of
> trust between Germany and France. I assume the same is
> true for Austria and Italy.
I had no complaints about your response to my Burgundy
inquiry; it answered my questions with admirable brevity.
> You apparently trust Russia more?
Yes, on that occasion.
> As for the Italian fleet in Tunis. It seems a weaker
> move. He should keep his fleet in the Ionian in order to
> keep his options open. If Roberto wishes to discuss it
> further with France, he should do so himself. I am
> available. I do appreciate your starting the
> discussions, but it seems more appropriate for him and I
> to carry on those conversations.
Certainly; I am glad my judgement of the situation was
accurate as far as it went.
Felicia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Italy to Austria, England, France, Germany, Russia, and Turkey
Gentlemen,
I had an all-day presentation at work today. I will be in contact with
everybody tomorrow.
Roberto
Message from Germany to France
Prince Boar:
Quite an interesting game. As someone broadcasted, the only
interesting move was Russia to STP. But now that the moves have
processed we have many more things to talk about.
For instance, you're poised to build three. The safest course for
England being to support himself into Norway.
I'll admit that a 6 unit France will be cause for concern in the German
homeland. But we should be able to work something out. It'll be time to
start talking about who we should attack soon. Not much point in it
until after the fall move. Our moves are fairly well set.
I might or might not bounce Russia, depending on what we work out.
Certainly I'll go for Holland. This leaves Munich. The bounce worked
to both our advantage last turn. I can see that it won't work for you
this time. And certainly if I did go to BUR it would be a declaration
of war. I suspect that's not what you want. (nor I) However I do
need to do something with Munich. Certainly it can go in any direction.
None of which amounts to a great move. South - I suppose I could help
out Italy or Austria, but their bounce shows that they're working
together. Moving south would be pointless. East? Certainly Russia
will build one. Chances are it'll be in WAR or MOS. Not much point in
ruffling his feathers.
I'll bring up another sticky point. Where do we go after the builds.
We'll all want more builds. This will be when things get interesting.
Oops got to go. The girlfriend wants me to come over and hot tub. Ooh
La la. We'll have to continue this later. In effect, for a FG
relationship to work you have to go south. (and a little north) What
are your thoughts on this?
Freeddy VVY
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 8 Results:
Russia's Serguei Ivanov (FAS) took stage 9 of the 2001
Tour de France in a classic solo effort. He barely held a
break away from the main pack at the finish line.
Tomorrow the riders will finish with a climb of the
legendary Alpe d'Huez and the standings should shake
up considerably.
This win for Fassa Bortolo gives Roberto his first
points. Congratulations.
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 0 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 10 points
Russia (Robobank): 20 points
Turkey (CSC): 20 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1. Stuart O_Grady (C.A.) 38-hours 55-minutes 30-seconds
3. Bram De Groot (RAB) @ 21:16
11. Laurent Jalabert (CSC) @ 31:57
13. Igor G. Galdeano (ONC) @34:23
17. Christophe Moreau (FES) @ 34:43
23. Lance Armtrong (USP) @ 35:19
27. Jan Ullrich (TEL) @ 35:46
Tomorrow the Race Begins!
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
Thank you for your kind words for my mother. Yes she is
doing well.
I have finally heard from Germany. Although he is
basically saying little other than he is keep his cards
open. We need to encourage him to go after Russia. If
he would bounce Russia in Sweden and move Munich to
Silesia...that would be great. But I do not know if
Germany is prepared to be so bold. He talks about
waiting until next year to decide whom he should attack.
It may be words to lull me into complacency, if he
intends to attack me. What does he tell you?
I will send a possible plan for the next year and a half,
for us to discuss. The Dauphin is working out the
details and it will not be ready until tonight.
I am sorry to hear about your modem. I hope that this
Mr. Modem person will shape up. If not, you should fire
him and hire a more reliable communications officier.
I do appreciate your understanding concerning my need for
a balancing fleet. It actually is going a long way to
relieving my worry for your possible army in Belgium.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
At this time I am trying to still negotiate a bounce with
England in Belgium. He is of course nervous about that
as he may not get Norway. I am not anxious to take
Belgium at all costs. It would be best to keep it open.
We shall see.
As for your Army in Munich. It can also simply hold?
Although if you do bounce Russia in Sweden, you may wish
to couple it with a move to Silesia. That would at least
distract Russia enough that he may not build a fleet in
the South Coast of St. Petersburg. It would be nice for
you to avoid that occurrence. You have a dilema. Let
Russia have Sweden and you suddenly have a very powerful
neighbor. Deny him it and you may have an angry
neighbor. But in my experience, a 1901 bounce in Sweden
is something that very often can be overcome. It is
almost like a bounce in Burgundy or the Black Sea. It
slows down Russia's grow to be more fairly matched to
your own, but causes him no real damage. Russia often
has little choice but to overlook it as he can do
nothing about it. I am sure that you will make the
wisest choice.
Did the hot tub go well? Ah, perhaps I prefer not
knowing ;-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Good Prince,
>I have finally heard from Germany.
Me too. He actually sent me a rather competent message. I suspect, based
on its contents, that he is really considering the bounce in Sweden. I
will encourage this.
>If he would bounce Russia in Sweden and move Munich to
>Silesia...that would be great.
My ideal outcome would be a bounce in Sweden followed by a Russian build in
Warsaw, instead of in StP. I can dream. As for Silesia, I don't have the
guts to suggest it. It's too much like saying, "Please turn your back on
me. Close your eyes. No peeking, now." In short, its such a bad move for
Germany, that he would be bound wonder why I would suggest it.
>What does he tell you?
Basically, he says, "let's kill Russia then turn on France."
Remember my message to you about what should I say if Germany asked advice
on Burgundy? He didn't mention it at all, and neither will I in my
response. However, if you think I should say something, I could. I'm
confident that I still have his ear.
>I will send a possible plan for the next year and a half,
>for us to discuss.
Not ten years?
>I do appreciate your understanding concerning my need for
>a balancing fleet. It actually is going a long way to
>relieving my worry for your possible army in Belgium.
Believe me, I am listening to your words (and Russia's) with great care.
I've got a critical choice to make here. Two units to Norway, or one?
Army to Norway? Fleet to Norway? Army to Belgium?
For what it is worth, Russia has sent me message after message begging me
to trust him and bounce you in Belgium.
I wanted this suspense to be over yesterday, one way or the other. This
delay has me on edge.
I heard from Italy. He didn't say much, but I gather that you are very
secure in the south.
Ivy
Message from Turkey to France
Prince Boar,
> A nice start for you. Russia sent a unit North, hence
> you have less worries than you might. There is currently
> no one in Rumania, therefore you can afford to move
> Ankara to Constantinople, if you so please. I suppose
> that you would still have Smyrna covered, so that does
> not buy you anything. Perhaps taking the Black Sea is
> stronger. I am sure that you will do the smartest thing.
Indeed, getting Turkish fleets into the water is always a tricky business.
I've not yet figured out an easy way to do it.
> Are you worried about the strong display of trust between
> Russia and Austria (no one moved to Galicia)?
Yes, it is a concern. Russia no doubt has cause to believe that both
Austria and Turkey are friendly. It's difficult to say which of us he might
ultimately choose as an ally. Austria is saying his bounce with Italy was
not pre-arranged. What is your take? Also, can you reveal whether your
bounce in Bur was pre-arranged?
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Russia to France
My Dear Prince Boar,
Well, the Tour continues to go well, two stage victories, and a win by
one of our union organizers in Austria. I did not expect quite the amount
of comment that allowing the 1st Guards Army to summer in the capital
has generated, but I suppose that given the overall conservative tone of
the opening, the media had to seize on something. 8-) Do you plan to
take Belgium, now that I've handed it to you on a platter?
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II
Message from Italy to France
>
> We each must hope that the other
> propsers. Yes there will be worries if the other
> prospers too much.
Well, I'm glad you brought this subject up. My only worry at least point is
your potential for 3 centers this fall. With the Russian move to STP,
England is forced to used both fleets to guarantee acquisition of Norway
leaving you with an unobstructed move to Belgium. Now, I'm not going to say
that you should not take advantage of the opportunity handed to you, but I
will warn you of the "stop-the-leader" talk that happens so often in
Diplomacy. Being one of your borders, I'm am reminded by others of your
potential power and they wonder what I will be doing to stop such blatant
growth. Moving to Piedmont is always their answer. Of course, my response
is, "What are you going to do to stop such blatant growth". They never have
an adequate answer for that. They just expect poor little ol' Italy to take
on Goliath by myself. Never the less, it is difficult to ignore the rants
and raves of Europe.
How do you propose that we even out our growth potential so that I am better
able to defend your eastern border?
>
> You must also be pleased that Turkish fleets will not be
> in the Mediterranean in the fall. He will likely have
> one eyeing the waters, but none will be on the waters.
>
Yes, this does help my situation.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
ps: I will leave you with a reminder that a French '01 fleet in Marseilles
reaches the Channel just as fast as a waived build that is built in Brest in
'02. Call it an Italian reward for not moving to Piedmont. :)
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I assure you that I have no plans to build in Marseilles.
As long as you do not move forces my way, I plan to
leave it open. Our relationship is too important to me
for me to risk in that way.
The only circumstances that might change this is a strong
attack from Germany. But in that case, I would be
building an army instead.
I hope that this message puts your nervousness to rest.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Tour de France Stage 10 Results:
In what was sure to be a legendary performance, two-time
defending Tour champion Lance Armstrong launched a
brilliant attack on the final ascent of the day--the
legendary Alpe d'Huez--and stomped to a stage win over
German Jan Ullrich by nearly 2-minutes. He earlier
bluffed his competitors into thinking that he was
struggling. He would make a good Diplomacy player, N'est
pas?
This win for US Postal Service gives Ivy his first
points. It seems that the wealthy is being spread
around. Next we need someone from Domo-Farm Frites to
take a stage. (Not to mention ONCE, they are typically
close.)
Official Tally:
Austria (Domo-Farm Frites): 0 points
England (USPS): 10 points
France (Festina): 10 points
Germany (Telekom): 20 points
Italy (Fassa Bortolo): 10 points
Russia (Robobank): 20 points
Turkey (CSC): 20 points
Doug (O.N.C.E.): 0 points
Selected Standings:
1 François Simon (BJR)45 hours, 34 minutes, 9 seconds
4 Lance Armstrong (USP) @20.07
5 Joseba Beloki (ONC) @21.42
6 Christophe Moreau (FES) @22.21
7 Jan Ullrich (TEL) @22.41
14 Laurent Jalabert (CSC) @28.06
29 Bobby Julich (C.A.) @42.07
Message from France to England
Ivy:
>Basically, he says, "let's kill Russia then turn on
>France."
Pretty standard stuff really.
I did suggest a move to Silesia as an option, since
Germany asked, but did not press it. I basically laid
out some options and then said that I was sure that he
would make the best move.
>Remember my message to you about what should I say if
>Germany asked advice on Burgundy?
Well, I have decided not to mention Burgundy at all. We
may want me to make it to Burgundy. I prefer to simply
ignore it and play dumb later. If he mentions it, just
reply that it sounds like a good way to ensure a war with
France. Is that wise while he is unsure about Russia? I
guess discourage it, but do not be obvious.
>>I will send a possible plan for the next year and a
>>half, for us to discuss.
>Not ten years?
OK, conquer Germany, Conquer Russia, Expanding into
Austria and Italy. As Turkey is dying, we battle for the
victory. How is that?
Actually The Dauphin tells me 1-2 years is the most
reasonable time frame for plans. It allows some longer
term thinking, but is short enough that there is a chance
that it could occur, or at least with slight
modifications. We fully expect to modify the plan each
year according to changing circumstances.
This possible plan is predicated on our decision to hit
Germany and try to get Russia on board. There is risk
for each of us, but nothing is gained without risk. One
must trust someone. I have chosen to trust you and
assume the reverse is true.
Fall 01:
Yor -> Bel
Nwg -> Nor
Pic -> Bur
Mar -> Spa
MAO -> Por
Winter 01:
A Par
F Bre
F Lon
F Edi if Nor succeeds
Spring 01:
Bel s Bur -> Ruh
Nth -> Hel
Bre -> Pic
Par -> Bur
Lon -> Nth
Edi -> Nwg
Spa -> Gas
Nor s A Fin -> Swe?
Fall 01:
Bur/Pic -> Bel
Bel -> Hol
Nwg& Nor hold Norway
Bel -> Hol
Certainly there are many ifs here. For it to work I
would have to convince Germany that I am coming after
you. The fleet in Brest may help that. You could
complain about it. I would have to explain away the move
to Burgundy. You might have to help by irritating
Germany a bit, otherwise Germany could stall many of my
moves and hence stall our joint efforts. We can deal
with those situations when they occur.
It is just a starting plan. Tell me your thoughts.
I realize that you may prefer to put your army in Norway.
If you make that choice, I may instead take Belgium, but
waive that third build. It would at least get an army in
a better spot and challenge Germany for Belgium in the
fall. The plan would be similar except that I would
already be in Belgium and be supporting you to Holland.
It is just a matter of how much you trust Russia. If you
do move your army to Norway, you simply have to tell
Russia that his move to St. Petes was too much of a
threat to you and you had to assume the worst. Now that
he proved himself, you will glad help him take Sweden,
etc. and move the army this year. (to holland would be
the spot)
>For what it is worth, Russia has sent me message after
>message begging me to trust him and bounce you in
>Belgium.
He offers little, but asks you a lot. Perhaps he wants
you to get no builds?
>I heard from Italy. He didn't say much, but I gather
>that you are very secure in the south.
A bit less secure as I am in the North (you), but not too
bad.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
I do believe that the USPS will make it unlikely that
your RUOB (Russian Union of Bikers) will take many stages
for a while. Is the United States Postal Service
Unionized? They must be, otherwise I do not understand
why the bosses would allow people to carry weapons around
the place.
I do appreciate your improving my chances at Belgium. It
is not certain however that I will take or even go for
Belgium. The Dauphin has not yet revealed to me our
plans.
You can pick up anywhere from zero to three centers. You
must be very excited about the possibilities. The media
may be going through your garbage if you become such a
celebrity.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Turkey
Ali Baba
>Russia no doubt has cause to believe that both
>Austria and Turkey are friendly. It's difficult to
>say which of us he might ultimately choose as an ally.
Yes, Russia appears to be in great position. Friends
everywhere and strong possibilities. We will have to
watch him to make certain that he does not interfere
without our plans for the two-way draw. :-)
>Austria is saying his bounce with Italy was not
>pre-arranged. What is your take? Also, can
>you reveal whether your bounce in Bur was
>pre-arranged?
I will not tell you lies that you are not going to
believe anyway. The bounce in Burgundy was equivalent to
the bounce in the Black Sea. As for Trieste, I believe
that it was pre-arranged. At least I have sensed no fall
out. You would be wise to get some fleets into the
Mediterranean, just in case. But there is the Black Sea
just beckoning. What will you do? :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
> I do believe that the USPS will make it unlikely that
> your RUOB (Russian Union of Bikers) will take many stages
> for a while.
It does seem unlikely, but one must remain optomistic.
> Is the United States Postal Service Unionized?
Yes, very much so.
>They must be, otherwise I do not understand
> why the bosses would allow people to carry
> weapons around the place.
Well, it you ask the employee to put his weapon in his
locker, and he refuses, you don't have much recourse,
whether he's union, or not, do you? After all, would you
dismiss a man holding a .357? I suspect you'd end up
being the one fired, or at least fired upon.
> I do appreciate your improving my chances at Belgium.
> It is not certain however that I will take or even go for
> Belgium. The Dauphin has not yet revealed to me our
> plans.
Please advise him to be careful. Those last minute decisions
have a way of generating all sorts of unexpected consequences.
(After all, I thought Mos-StP would just improve my chances
of bringing Sweden into the EEU. 8-)
> You can pick up anywhere from zero to three centers. You
> must be very excited about the possibilities. The media
> may be going through your garbage if you become such a
> celebrity.
I shall not even attempt three. I have seen Russia go from
seven Centres in 1901 to three in 1903. (Though his replacement
did manage to get back to twelve in 1911. Of course, that was
the year I reached nineteen...8-) I expect I'll get one, and perhaps
two, though that depends on the silent German. Have you heard
from Frederick since the Spring results were announced?
In Friendship,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Italy to France
> I assure you that I have no plans to build in Marseilles.
> As long as you do not move forces my way, I plan to
> leave it open. Our relationship is too important to me
> for me to risk in that way.
Thank you. I appreciate this. You don't mind if I save this message and
bring it up should, say, a Festiva rider take a wrong turn in the mountains.
:)
Hmmmm, this means one of two things. Either you'd waive a build or you're
not going to be in Belgium this winter. Doesn't England need to secure
Norway with the use of both fleets allowing you access to Belgium unopposed?
> I hope that this message puts your nervousness to rest.
It's not that I was nervous, rather, I find it best to say what is on my
mind and to be open about my diplomatic relationships. If you become too
powerful too soon relative to my position, then my hands would be tied and I
would have to at least attempt to knock you down, if for not other reason
that to be able to leave the game with my head held high and my integrity
intact.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
If I do get Belgium, I will waive that build. I would do
so for the reason that I stated, keeping our relationship
strong. However, my taking Belgium is certainly not
guaranteed. England and Russia may work things out so
that England bounces me in Belgium. Or I may choose to
simply hold and not even go for it.
You mentioned ways for us to keep our alliance balanced.
I am not sure how we can accomplish that right now, other
than agreeing not to grow too fast. I doubt that either
one of us wants to borrow the other Iberia or Tunis. I
suppose our only option to interact in the near term
would be in Germany. Some things to ponder on dark
nights while you enjoy a nice red wine.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Russia
Czar Nicolas:
I have heard from Germany only once. It does not bode
well for him to be surrounded by three communicative
neighbors and spend so little time talking with them. I
can be patient, but can we all continue to be patient for
the long term? We shall see what develops.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Russia to France
Prince Boar,
>I have heard from Germany only once.
Hmm, could he be out on the course, rooting for
Ulrich?
>It does not bode well for him to be surrounded
>by three communicative neighbors and spend so
>little time talking with them.
Yes, I wonder if he is experiencing some
manner of domestic crisis? It seems inconceivable
to me that anyone could acheive a position of
leadership in Germany at this level without being
an engaging communicator.
>We shall see what develops.
Yes. EF vs. G, followed by FR vs. E still
works. 8-)
Cordially,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Italy to France
>
> You mentioned ways for us to keep our alliance balanced.
> I am not sure how we can accomplish that right now, other
> than agreeing not to grow too fast.
>
This would be fine with me. I understand that you are a larger country and
need more units. I'm not asking for equality in our units. It's a foregone
conclusion that you'll be at six before I even have a chance at a fifth.
All I'm asking is that you try not to reach 7,8, and beyond while I'm still
stuck at 4.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from England to France
>>Remember my message to you about what should I say if
>>Germany asked advice on Burgundy?
>Well, I have decided not to mention Burgundy at all. We
>may want me to make it to Burgundy. I prefer to simply
>ignore it and play dumb later. If he mentions it, just
>reply that it sounds like a good way to ensure a war with
>France. Is that wise while he is unsure about Russia? I
>guess discourage it, but do not be obvious.
Looks like it will never come up. Germany sent me one thoughtful message
the other day. The rest is silence.
>>Not ten years?
>OK, conquer Germany, Conquer Russia, Expanding into
>Austria and Italy. As Turkey is dying, we battle for the
>victory. How is that?
Yes, yawn. This is so easy. It's like tic-tac-toe. One gets bored so quickly.
>This possible plan is predicated on our decision to hit
>Germany and try to get Russia on board. There is risk
>for each of us, but nothing is gained without risk. One
>must trust someone. I have chosen to trust you and
>assume the reverse is true.
I will never forget the words of a friend who introduced me to Diplomacy,
FTF, some years ago. He said, "You've got to trust SOMEONE." He was
right. I learned a second valuable lesson in my second e-mail game
somewhat later. But that's another story. I've added a third principle of
my own. If you ask at the end of this adventure, I will tell you what #2 &
#3 are. But it all starts with building trust.
>Fall 01:
>Yor -> Bel
>Nwg -> Nor
>Pic -> Bur
>Mar -> Spa
>MAO -> Por
>
>Winter 01:
>A Par
>F Bre
>F Lon
>F Edi if Nor succeeds
This is one of the possibilities that I am considering. I am also thinking
of Yor -> Nor, possibly with support. That would leave Belgium open for
another year.
>Spring 01:
>Bel s Bur -> Ruh
>Nth -> Hel
>Bre -> Pic
>Par -> Bur
>Lon -> Nth
>Edi -> Nwg
>Spa -> Gas
>Nor s A Fin -> Swe?
>
>Fall 01:
>Bur/Pic -> Bel
>Bel -> Hol
>Nwg& Nor hold Norway
>Bel -> Hol
A bit much for my wee brain. I just want to wake up alive on Thursday
morning and take it from there.
>
>Certainly there are many ifs here. For it to work I
>would have to convince Germany that I am coming after
>you. The fleet in Brest may help that. You could
>complain about it. I would have to explain away the move
>to Burgundy. You might have to help by irritating
>Germany a bit, otherwise Germany could stall many of my
>moves and hence stall our joint efforts. We can deal
>with those situations when they occur.
>
>It is just a starting plan. Tell me your thoughts.
It all seems reasonable. Only German/Russian coordination would be a
problem. Which is why that Sweden bounce means so much.
>I realize that you may prefer to put your army in Norway.
> If you make that choice, I may instead take Belgium, but
>waive that third build. It would at least get an army in
>a better spot and challenge Germany for Belgium in the
>fall.
This doesn't work for me, good Prince. I am facing possible units in
Sweden, Finland, and StP after the build, while the Mediterranean is quiet.
If I do take Belgium, and the Russian threat magically vanishes [bounce in
Sweden, trouble in SE Europe] then Belgium can easily be reassigned
according to revised needs.
>The plan would be similar except that I would
>already be in Belgium and be supporting you to Holland.
>It is just a matter of how much you trust Russia. If you
>do move your army to Norway, you simply have to tell
>Russia that his move to St. Petes was too much of a
>threat to you and you had to assume the worst. Now that
>he proved himself, you will glad help him take Sweden,
>etc. and move the army this year. (to holland would be
>the spot)
I am indeed considering putting the army in Norway.
>>For what it is worth, Russia has sent me message after
>>message begging me to trust him and bounce you in
>>Belgium.
I have had about as many messages from Russia this season as messages from
all others combined. All beg, literally beg, me to bounce you in Belgium.
He is really, really trying. It all goes back to him wanting one of us
dead.
*****
My sister is visiting and I have been preoccupied these past two days.
When I did try to diplome last night my modem wouldn't work.
*****
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I just want to make certain that things are clear. I did
not quite follow part of your message.
If you put your army in Norway, you do not want me to
take Belgium? Is that correct? I did not follow why
that would not work for you. Perhaps I typed something
wrong that I did not catch?
I would prefer one of us have an army in Belgium. It
seems a strong position than Burgundy and would take a
whole lot less explaining. However if you have a good
reason for leaving it open, please help me understand.
I also want to avoid any misunderstandings.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
The Dauphin wanted to know if the sister visiting you is
the same one that would win the date with him if your
Tour de France team, USPS, receives the most points?
He even went on to ask some question things about if she
is cute, available and some things that I am too
embarassed to repeat. Let's just ignore these questions.
I hope that you enjoy your visit with your sister and the
threat of a date with the Dauphin does not drive her into
leaving too soon.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
I trust that things are going well. I have nothing
substantial to report, other than saying good luck.
Italy really does not mention what he is planning. We
have a unexpressed agreement not to get too nosy. Russia
is not saying too much about his plans in Scandinavia.
He is definately taking a Northern interest, which can be
a problem for us. If he gets two builds and they are
both in the North, we have another large power in the
North to deal with. Interesting even if it turns out to
be troublesome.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
>If you put your army in Norway, you do not want me to
>take Belgium? Is that correct?
Yes, that was what I meant. But I hope it is the tactical consideration of
an army in Belgium that concerns you and not the balance of our forces.
In more detail now: Of four outcomes -- bounce in Belgium, England gets
Belgium, France gets Belgium, neither attempts Belgium -- I thought we had
agreed that only one -- France gets Belgium -- would make one of us
unhappy, namely me. You know the reasons. I don't want a 6-center France
on one side of me while I had to face a posssible major Russian attack on
Norway.
>I would prefer one of us have an army in Belgium. It
>seems a strong position than Burgundy and would take a
>whole lot less explaining.
This part was indeed a misunderstanding. I thought that an English army in
Belgium, as opposed to a fleet, was less desirous to you because of your
concerns for your own security. Thus I thought you might welcome my army
in Norway. Besides, I thought, an army in Norway is immediately backed up
by two English fleets and can withstand a triple attack by Russia.
What I didn't consider was the need for an army in Belgium in order to work
against Ruhr in 1902. That's where your forward thinking for 1902 has to
be considered.
>However if you have a good
>reason for leaving it open, please help me understand.
Return now to the four Belgium outcomes mentioned above. It's not that I
prefer to leave Belgium open, it's merely that I assumed that that was one
of three acceptible possibilities.
If you infer from all of this that I haven't decided whether to
double-attack Norway or split my fleets between Norway and Belgium, you are
correct. This decision is driving me crazy. I really hated that two-day
postponement. I wanted to get this behind me, one way or another.
********
My sister is married, but I know the practices of the dauphin and his ilk.
She is not to be trifled with. Just to be sure, I rushed her out of town
about an hour ago to a secure, but undisclosed, site in Massachusetts,
where she shall remain in hiding until perhaps Thanksgiving, or Christmas.
Most cordially,
Ivy Wingo
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I understand the preference of France for an English
fleet in Belgium rather than an army. However, I have
chosen to trust you, therefore I will accept the things
that the Dauphin tells me make tactical sense. An army
is better than a fleet. If it English, then we are
prepare to trust that English army. We will want to see
it head East, but for now we accept it.
If you will not take Belgium, then I wanted my army
there. I will not press this to the point of breaking
our alliance however. It is a just matter of flexibility
for the future. The best situation is armies in both
Belgium and Burgundy. But if that is not the case,
Belgium is better than Burgundy.
Is your concern for a 6 Supply Center France or a 6 Unit
France? My waiving a build could easily create a 5 Unit
France.
I still prefer the plan that I sent. If you get Belgium
and bounce in Norway, you still have 4 centers. This
does weaken your position against Russia, admittedly.
But it puts you on the high ground with him. You
attempted the fleet as promised. Perhaps that would help
convince Russia to side with us against Germany.
However, I think that he would go with whatever situation
happens: EF vs. G or FG vs. E. Therefore we propose the
attack on Germany during the builds and he will probably
go for it.
I tentatively have orders in for Pic -> Bur. I wait upon
your decision. Since it is primarily your risk, I wait
for you to decide upon two things.
1) Will you go to Belgium?
2) If not, will you allow me there on condition that I
waive my build.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Good Prince Boar,
>If you will not take Belgium, then I wanted my army
>there. I will not press this to the point of breaking
>our alliance however. It is a just matter of flexibility
>for the future. The best situation is armies in both
>Belgium and Burgundy. But if that is not the case,
>Belgium is better than Burgundy.
You urge a decision. Let it be Yorkshire->Belgium.
>Is your concern for a 6 Supply Center France or a 6 Unit
>France? My waiving a build could easily create a 5 Unit
>France.
A 3-center Russian north triggered the concern. If Russia makes the more
conventional opening with three units to the south, then England only needs
four units at the start of 1902. More than that is greedy. I have always
felt that it is least disturbing to the world at large for Germany to get
Belgium and an early six centers. Speaking objectively, five is usually too
many for England, and six is too many for France. Deviant behavior by
Russia or Italy can upset that formula, however, and that is what has
happened.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
Thanks for the note. I will be out tonight, but will
check for messages late, just in case you change your
mind. Even if you do and I do not get the message, I
will still be going to Burgundy. No significant harm
done.
Best of luck to us.
-- Prince Boar
PS: Congratulations on the second stage win.
Message from Germany to France
PRince Boar:
I have some bad news. And I hope this doesn't get to you too late. I
hate that. And it'll be totally my fault.
I ordered Munich to Burgundy.
My intention is that you'll bounce me out, hopefully with Picardy. My
reason is simple. I don't want you to build three. (I'm pretty sure
England will support himself to Norway. I would) Letting France walk
into Belgium just seems like a bad move to me. And the only way to
prevent it is to make you bounce me.
If this message gets to you after the moves process. (A distinct
possibility) I'll deal with the ramifications. I would imagine that
you'll push me right out of there. The problem for me will be that
you'll have to build armies instead of fleets (If that was your
intention). Obviously I'd rather that you build fleets.
Again, I apologize for the lateness of this message. I always get
pissed when someone does this to me.
Fred
Message from France to Germany
Frederick:
I guess that I will be bouncing you in Burgundy. This
may hand Belgium to England. But that is another
ramification of your late notice.
A decent neighbor would tell me about their concerns and
suggest the bounce as a way to alleviate them. He
does not simply tell me this is what I am doing so you
have no choice. No one enjoys coercion. I was actually
trying not to take Belgium, nor have England take it.
Perhaps it is because the time is late that you did not
have time to discuss it. We shall have to make certain
that we find more time before the deadline approaches
next time. I bear blame for not making sure that you
understood my goals. I mentioned it, but perhaps was not
definite enough.
-- Prince Boar
PS: While you sit in your hot tub, ponder ways to make
it up to your dear neighbor to the west :-)
Message from France to England
Ivy:
It appears that I will be bouncing with Germany. He just
*informed* me that he is moving there.
If I had not chosen my preference for an ally already, it
would have been obvious. Who needs one who uses last
minute coercion without discussion.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to France
>It appears that I will be bouncing with Germany. He just
>*informed* me that he is moving there.
But he doesn't inform me -- his proclaimed ally!
Ivy
Austria: Fleet Albania → Greece
Austria: Army Serbia SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria → Rumania
Austria: Army Vienna → Galicia
England: Fleet North Sea CONVOY Army Yorkshire → Belgium
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → Norway
England: Army Yorkshire → North Sea → Belgium
France: Army Marseilles → Spain
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → Portugal
France: Army Picardy → Burgundy (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Denmark → Sweden (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel → Holland
Germany: Army Munich → Burgundy (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Apulia → Ionian Sea → Tunis
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Apulia → Tunis
Italy: Army Venice → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Sweden (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania (*bounce*)
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Finland
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Turkey: Fleet Ankara → Black Sea
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Rumania (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
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