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Message from Turkey to Italy
So what is it with you? Why this vendetta against me? What the hell did I
ever do to you, except try to be your ally?
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> So what is it with you? Why this vendetta against me? What
> the hell did I ever do to you, except try to be your ally?
>
Nothing but it seems the only way I'm going to get people to stop attacking
me is to become less of a threat to win the game. One of the ways to do that
is to give some centers away. I tried to give them to you but that didn't
work out. France seems willing to oblige.
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
> Nothing but it seems the only way I'm going to get people to stop
attacking
> me is to become less of a threat to win the game. One of the ways to do
that
> is to give some centers away. I tried to give them to you but that didn't
> work out. France seems willing to oblige.
Really. And what demand did you make of him, that he agreed to? Disbanding
half his fleet force, like you asked of me?
Message from Turkey to Italy
> Nothing but it seems the only way I'm going to get people to stop
attacking
> me is to become less of a threat to win the game. One of the ways to do
that
> is to give some centers away. I tried to give them to you but that didn't
> work out. France seems willing to oblige.
By the way, the only "people" attacking you is France. I'm just defending
myself. The idea that you can get France to stop attacking you by giving
centers to France is preposterous.
Message from Italy to Turkey
Frustrating as hell when you're playing with a crazed lunatic, eh?
Buckle up because it'll get worse before it gets better.
Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
Message from Turkey to Italy
> Frustrating as hell when you're playing with a crazed lunatic, eh?
Yes it is. I agree with your assessment. I believe I know what's motivating
your grudge attacks. I hope you will at least be honest in your EOY/EOG
statements about your true motivations.
I will continue to defend myself as best I can, for as long as I can.
Message from Italy to England
So you're not surprised, my disband will be the fleet in Rome. And I'll be
moving the Ionean fleet to the East Med this fall.
Idalia, for the good graces of the ArchDuke
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> I believe I know what's motivating your grudge attacks.
>
Cool! Tell me so we both know.
> I hope you will at least be honest in your EOY/EOG
> statements about your true motivations.
>
This implies that I'm not being honest right now.
> I will continue to defend myself as best I can, for as
> long as I can.
You're doing an admirable job. Your best bet is to hope that France
continues to take centers from me. If he takes too many, then I will
eventually have to disband units from the Turkish front which will let you
off the hook. So, if I were you, I'd be encouraging France to take as many
units from me as physically possible. If he gets too greedy, you will be
the recipient of the Balkan/Austrian region.
Message from Italy to France
Keep the fleet train a-comin'. Pile it on. Take me out of my misery.
Do you need support into Munich?
Idalia, for the good graces of the ArchDuke
Message from Turkey to Italy
> This implies that I'm not being honest right now.
I will at least say, I certainly don't believe I'm hearing the whole story.
"Crazed lunatic" or not, you've got *some* motivation for acting as you are.
You've chosen to hand France your centers on a silver platter, while you
continue to attack only me. You've not yet told me why. Nor have you told me
why you now paint yourself as a crazed lunatic; what happened?
The argument that it's all because I didn't play ball with your request to
disband my fleet doesn't seem to hold water, since you've apparently made no
such demands of France. You certainly can't claim Turkey has been an
aggressor nation against Italy. So, I can't help but wonder what motivates
you to lash out against me exclusively.
> You're doing an admirable job. Your best bet is to hope that France
> continues to take centers from me. If he takes too many, then I will
> eventually have to disband units from the Turkish front which will let you
> off the hook. So, if I were you, I'd be encouraging France to take as many
> units from me as physically possible. If he gets too greedy, you will be
> the recipient of the Balkan/Austrian region.
I don't believe this is a game where my best bet is simply to hang on and hope
for the best. My tendency is to believe that my best bet is to engage you in
a dialogue, and try to somehow end our conflict through diplomatic means. But
these effots only hit a brick wall, and I don't understand why that wall is
there. Only you know for sure why I am your only enemy, and you haven't given
me any hint of it yet.
So I ask again, why am I the bad guy here?
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto, My Friend,
Ivy tells me you're threatening to throw the game
to France. Is there any truth to this, and if
you've made it, do you plan to carry it out? I
won't share anything you divulge with Ivy, but
your answer could affect my dealings with Germany.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Ivy tells me you're threatening to throw the game
> to France.
>
I've been told the reason Germany moved to Tyrolia was I was too big.
I've been told the reason France moved my direction was I was too big.
I've been told the reason England allowed both to happen was I was too big.
I've been told the world will stand together to stop the player that is too
big.
I concluded I no longer should be that player.
> Is there any truth to this, and if
> you've made it, do you plan to carry it out?
> your answer could affect my dealings with Germany.
>
Before I answer, I request to know how the answer will affect your dealings
with Germany.
> I won't share anything you divulge with Ivy,
You have my blessing to divulge this information to Ivy.
Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
Message from Russia to Italy
>Message from Italy to Russia in 'titleist':
>I've been told the world will stand together to stop the player that is too
>big.
>
>I concluded I no longer should be that player.
Throw your Centers to me! I'll put up with the
Early Leader Syndrome. 8-)
>I request to know how the answer will affect your dealings with Germany.
Well, I was going to suggest, Boh S Bur-Mun.
Germany is determined to keep me from growing, and
to try to eliminate me before he is eliminated, no
matter what options I offer him to disengage, so I
figure that the faster I eliminate him, the better.
The other request I had was that you not attack
TA Gal, so that I could get Ali to order Gal S War.
Are you willing to consider either or both of these
options?
>Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
Your government has been taken over by Austrian
expatriates????
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
I never used the word 'threat' to England. I merely told him what I planned
to do with fleet Rome and fleet Ionean. I told him the truth. My disband
will be the fleet in Rome and I will be moving Ion-Eas this fall.
>
> Well, I was going to suggest, Boh S Bur-Mun.
>
I've made that suggestion to France as well. I have not heard back yet.
> The other request I had was that you not attack
> TA Gal, so that I could get Ali to order Gal S War.
Let me know how your progress goes in getting Turkey to make this order. I
will take your request under advisement.
>
> Your government has been taken over by Austrian
> expatriates????
>
Roberto was vacationing in Tunis this spring. We haven't heard from him.
Somebody has to man the ship.
Idalia, by the good graces of the ArchDuke
>
> Throw your Centers to me! I'll put up with the
> Early Leader Syndrome.
>
I would if I could.
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I am sorry for bouncing you in Munich. I thought about
it quite a bit, but felt that it was my best defensive
move. In hindsight it was probably a bad move. Oh well.
I did not realize that you were planning on pulling back
your fleets immediately. I figured that you would only
do so if Munich was certain. Hence I wanted to have a
greater chance at taking it.
There still is the opportunity to support you to Munich
and to withdraw except for staying in Tunis. It will
take a little while to sort out all the fall out from
these moves and England's position.
I have been busy all day and still really do not have a
good feel for where everyone ended up.
--Prince Boar
Message from Master to all
One day extension due to a player absence.
Doug
Message [from Turkey] to all
DATELINE: CONSTANTINOPLE
In a surprise announcement to global press
organizations, Turkey today revealed that Ali Baba, the
Turkish leader thought to have been killed in the
recent naval disaster in Bulgaria, is still alive and
continues to control the government. Apparently, Baba
was found unconscious in the wreckage, and was spirited
away by loyalist followers.
Baba apologized to Turkish citizens for his
previously erratic and unexplainable behavior, accusing
Italian operatives of poisoning his food with
psychotropic drugs. Baba's love for Italian food had
resulted in a large number of foreign nationals among
his kitchen staff, many of whom turned out to be agents
of the Italian regime.
"Though this represents a clear failure on the part
of our intelligence apparatus," Baba said, "we have
taken appropriate and prudent steps to tighten
security, and we now believe that most of the foreign
elements have been eliminated." Baba refused to
clarify what he meant by "eliminated."
Since the Bulgarian catastrophe, Turkish officials
have accused Italy of harboring fanatical zealots who
have carried out a number of suicide attacks against
Turkish interests, resulting in unprecedented loss of
civilian lives.
Referring to Italian leader Roberto as a "crazed
lunatic", Baba's government has attempted to form a
global coalition to fight what he calls a threat to
humanity. "These suicide attacks are an affront to
civilized people everywhere, and we call on the nations
of the world to stand with us against these terrorist
fanatics," Baba said.
"They wish to see us demoralized, but the result has
been an unprecedented level of unity among the Turkish
people," Baba claimed, displaying visible emotion
during the press conference. Outside observers have
confirmed that clashes between rival warlords seem to
have abated. Though many tribal leaders were recently
bitter enemies, most have joined forces in a display of
national unity.
However, some observers inside Turkey, who spoke
only on condition of anonymity, remain pessimistic that
these efforts can save Baba's government. As one
official put it, "if someone is so fervently
anti-Turkish that he is willing to give up his own life
to destroy us, there is really very little we can do to
counter such attacks."
Nevertheless, most Turkish military authorities
remain strong in their resolve to combat this new form
of warfare. "Apparently, these fanatics believe they
will receive greater rewards in the afterlife if they
kill our people in the process," one source in the
Turkish War Ministry proclaimed. "If that's their
belief, then we can only endeavor to send them to that
afterlife as speedily as possible."
So far, reaction from Western governments have been
mixed. One French official has reportedly assured Baba
that his nation stands "shoulder to shoulder" with the
Turkish people, and has vowed to do his part to punish
those responsible for these "atrocities". However, it
appears that French assistance may come only in the
form of humanitarian aid, rather than direct military
assistance.
The effect on this war-torn nation has been
significant and remarkable. Though tensions run high,
most Turks remain grimly resolved. "We will fight to
the last man," said one resident of Constantinople.
"They may have superior technology, but they will never
crush the Turkish spirit."
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Well, my arguments seem to be falling on deaf ears, but I will continue to
make them nevertheless.
In trying to assess your motivations, I can see two probabilities. One, you
simply want out of the game, and are taking the quickest route possible
toward that goal. Two, you no longer wish to be percieved as the principal
threat, and want France to be in that role instead.
If one, then you're on the right track.
If two, then I think you're overlooking a big part of the equation. There
is a significant difference between losing centers to Turkey versus losing
centers to France. Namely, if you give up centers to Turkey, those centers
are in the Balkans and/or Austria. But the centers France will take will be
your home centers. And once you've lost those, you've essentially lost the
game.
If you really just want to suicide out of the game, there's not much I can
do about it. My attempts at engaging in a logical discussions have so far
been met only with resistance on your part. Again, I will defend as best I
can, for as long as I can. However, if you change your mind, then I repeat
that I will not simply come gunning for you out of a blind thirst for
revenge. Rather, I will continue my previous efforts to work with you for
mutual stability.
Ali
Message from France to England, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Turkey
Just to let you know that I will be out of the
country Sat, Sun, and Mon. Do write and I
will try to respond Monday night. Tuesday will
be a humdinger of a day, but I *will* find time on
Tuesday. I do not want to cause more than the
minimum delay.
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Would you be willing to consider, Boh-Sil? Ali is reluctant to
order anything but Gal S Rum.
In Haste,
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Would you be willing to consider, Boh-Sil?
>
I don't think so.
In haste,
Idalia
Message from Germany to Italy
Roberto
I'll be at least attempting to pull TYR back to Munich this turn,
again. Too bad it doesn't look like we'll be able to cooperate anywhere
else. I don't see an opportunity. you've got all the fire power that
you need against GAL. and there's nothing that we need do in the Munich
area.
My attempts to convince France that he's made a 2nd 800 lb gorilla,
appear to be in vain. It only remains to be seen if England takes what
France is offering up on a silver platter. I sure would.
Fredd
Message from Italy to Germany
> I'll be at least attempting to pull TYR back to Munich
> this turn,
Bohemia will not interfere. Not available to help but it certainly won't be
helping the EF either.
Idalia
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I have not heard from you lately, but I guess that I
understand that.
I will probably not be supporting you to Munich, but I
will attempt to keep Germany out of it. If you want to
ensure that I do not get Munich, you can bounce me there.
--Prince Boar
England: Fleet English Channel HOLD
England: Army Holland → Kiel (*bounce*)
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Russian Fleet Sweden → Denmark
England: Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) HOLD
France: Army Belgium → Ruhr
France: Army Burgundy → Munich (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon → Tuscany
France: Fleet North Africa → Western Mediterranean
France: Fleet Tunis SUPPORT Fleet Western Mediterranean → Tyrrhenian Sea
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Tyrrhenian Sea
Germany: Fleet Denmark → North Sea (*bounce, dislodged*)
Germany: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Livonia (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel → Denmark (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Prussia → Warsaw
Germany: Army Silesia SUPPORT Army Prussia → Warsaw
Germany: Army Tyrolia → Munich (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast) (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Bohemia → Galicia
Italy: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Serbia → Rumania (*cut*)
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast)
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Eastern Mediterranean
Italy: Fleet Rome → Naples
Italy: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste
Italy: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Bohemia → Galicia
Russia: Army Livonia SUPPORT Army Warsaw (*cut*)
Russia: Fleet Sweden → Denmark
Russia: Army Warsaw SUPPORT Turkish Army Galicia (*void, dislodged*)
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Bulgaria → Serbia (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Galicia → Budapest (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce*)
Turkey: Fleet Smyrna → Aegean Sea (*bounce*)
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