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Message from Germany to Italy
You're correct, I did write the below.
> The army in Tyrolia is beginning to worry me. I haven't
> decided yet, but I'm considering trying to move it. The plain
> truth is that we've both seen this type of thing before. A unit that
> just sits and sits, then one day it wakes up and attacks.
> I'm even more vulnerable now that France is in BUR.
But I think that you overlooked the below. Where I state that I don't
want to move my armies south.
>
> Truthfully I don't really want to move south. I would just
> like to see TYR clear.
So it's probably a misunderstanding. You were feeling that I was
threatening Venice, while I thought that my message conveyed that I'd
like to see everyone out of TYR.
Fredd
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
It looks like you have your agreement with Turkey.
Congratulations. You are truly a master diplomat.
I think that Russia would be open to an RIFT alliance.
In the end, I will be a secondary participant no matter
what choice is made in the south. I suspect it will be
IRA or IRT, probably the latter. I just want to join so
I can encourage and remind you all that I am keeping EG
from getting to large and without some help, they will be
montrous.
If I feel that I am left to the wolves, I might just give
up and roll over.
I do appreciate the fleet coming my way. That will
help! I also ask you to attack Munich. I may decide to
support it or I may do something else. Either way it
helps defend Burgundy and that is a good thing for both
of us. If Germany gets to Burgundy, he will certainly
get a build. Attacking Munich also may lull Austria for
a fall stab, if you are taking that approach. I need not
know the details. Just finish it quickly so some
pressure can be put on Germany and England! :-)
-- Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
I will let you know if I order Tyr-Mun. I don't want you to waste a support
order for nothing. Right now, I'd say I would not attack Munich but that
may change over the course of negotiations.
Roberto
Message from Italy to Turkey
I hate to scheme behind our Russian friends back, but....I was looking at
ways of recouping my loss in Smyrna and the thought occurred to me that
Sevastopol might be a possibility. How much do we need Russia is the
question?
What I was thinking was:
Spring: smy-arm
Fall: arm-sev; bla s arm-sev
This would allow you to take Smyrna without support giving Con freedom to do
something else (Bulgaria perhaps). Just as important though, I'd be able to
move my fleets (ion-adr; ems-ion) or attack the Austrian fleet (ems-aeg; ion
s ems-ion). Albania would be free for a retreat in case Greece were
dislodged. You'd gain Smyrna without necessarily losing Greece and I'd
replace Smy with Sev while hopefully gaining/holding Trieste.
In time, we could swap Greece for Sevastopol.
I'm sure there are some little details that need to be worked out but what
are your thoughts on that idea?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Austria
Let me know if you need/want support into Greece. We'd have to be careful
about a retreat to Albania though.
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Your proposal is interesting, and if we had arranged it ahead of time in the
framework of IT cooperation, I probably would have gone with it. But I'll
confess I'm still in "once bitten, twice shy" mode at present, so I have
some concerns about it. It's not entirely out of line with continued AI
efforts to dismantle RT; I'd much rather see a clear indication of a
reversal of Italian intentions before acting anti-Russian.
If your concern is that I'm reluctant to give up Greece, then please realize
I'm perfectly serious about trading Gre for Smy. I've been straight with
you from the start, and I still consider honesty to be the best policy. I
believe that Turkey's power base is around the Black Sea, which is why I'm
so willing to embark on a land-based course. But given the current
circumstances, I'd be more comfortable if I were in control of when and how
to hit Sevastopol.
There are three main options that I currently favor for the spring, though
I'm still open to suggestion. The first is Smy-Alb, which gives you
pressure on Serbia and Trieste in the fall, and clearly enables your fleets
to move in the following turn. The second is Smy-Gre, Gre-Bul. However, I
expect Austria to attempt to retake Greece, so that may bounce, and we've no
way to support it. The third is Ion S Ems-Aeg, Gre-Bul, with Smy-Aeg-Gre,
Ank-Smy in the fall. This may have some advantage if Austria attacks Gre
with an army, meaning his fleet would be destroyed. Conversely, if he moves
Aeg-Gre, then you're assured Gre in the fall with Bul and Ion supporting,
although this does tie up your fleets one more turn.
I know you're eager to regain some flexibility with your fleets, and I
understand and appreciate your concerns. From my perspective, though, I
can't help but recall that you could have been in Greece last spring, and we
wouldn't be having this discussion. My fear is that you're planning to
string Austria along for the time being (or that you're trying to string me
along), and if you enter moves that might be in line with AI cooperation, it
will take that much longer to rebuild trust between us.
I'm eager for some hint of what you're planning with A Tyr. From what I've
heard from Germany, it seems you and he are in some contention about it.
The two obvious choices are to support France against Munich, or to attack
Austria. Naturally, from Turkey's perspective, an assault on Trieste would
be preferred. Also, it seems to me that Austria still considers you on his
side, and therefore is no doubt discussing options with you. Since he will
rely on coordination with your forces, it would be a great help if you would
divulge what Austria is planning. His coordination with you will surely
give us an opportunity for an effective Italian attack.
If your expressed desire for FIRT vs. EGA is genuine, then I think the best
course is to coordinate ITR efforts against Austria as quickly as possible,
so that you can build your fleet force and move it west, and so that I can
combine with Russia to push armies north against Germany. Once that's under
way, then I can look at attacking Russia within the framework of our
long-term goals. You've seen me build nothing but armies, and I think your
instincts will probably tell you I'm on the level about wanting long-term IT
friendship. But I'm also sure you can appreciate that, however weak Russia
may be, I have to consider him the only ally I've got until I see on the
board that Italy is no longer hostile.
What do you think? Let's keep discussing this, I'm eager to find a solution
we're both happy with.
Ali Baba
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
Any word from Austria about this Spring? Are you
committed to RIFT vs. AGE (for this year, anyway 8-)?
Any comments on your build from anyone? Germany and I
are discussing shifting our Fleets south to prevent A War
from retreating northward when I repatriate the Poles, but
he hasn't agreed to anything, yet. Please write when you
can.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Italy to England
>
> Congratulations on your fifth center. That's supposed to be
> a milestone in Italian progress.
>
Thanks. We'll see how long that milestone lasts.
> I bet you get your sixth before I do. It will impossible for
> me to grow in 1903,
>
Of course, not impossible but you'd need a little help/luck and you'd
certainly give up some position in the process.
Something you might be interested in is France has been lobbying quite hard
for Russia to move Mos-Stp in hopes that will lock down your NWG fleet into
the defense of Norway (as opposed to it moving to NAO). I doubt Russia can
afford that move this year but if things go 100% perfect for him this year,
it's possible he could gain a build from Warsaw and Norway could be
threatened next year.
>
> In spite of a little setback for Austria, I still think our
> two friends, Germany and Austria, are in positions best
> suited for very rapid growth. We need to keep them reined
> in somewhat.
>
I know what I can do to rein in Austria. What are you planning to do to
limit German growth?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
By the way, I wanted to state for the record that I have not told Russia of
your proposal, nor do I intend to do so. Russia tells me he believes your
proposals are sincere, and I'm content to keep it that way. Looking at the
board, I can see some tactical advantages to what you suggest. After having
set myself up as a patsy in '02, though, I'm determined not to do it again,
as I'm sure you can appreciate. So, I had promised myself I would not take
you at your word until I saw your moves revealed.
However, it's also true that sometimes when I've been more trusting than I
ought to be, it has payed off handsomely. So I guess I won't rule it out,
though I have to say it's still my least favourite option.
What would really help would be to learn more about your motivations.
Specifically, how does Bla S Arm-Sev fit in with your proposal of FIRT vs.
EGA? How do you see things shaking out in the long run? How can we use
German forces against Austria, while setting up Germany for attack from
Russia? When would you be willing to carry out an attack against Austria
yourself?
Write when you get a chance.
Ali Baba
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
Gentlemen,
I have not yet heard from Austria so I do not know his plans to date. I've
started the ball rolling by asking him if he wants/needs support into
Greece. Typically, I hear from Austria on the day of the deadline. I think
he uses the first day to figure out what he wants to do and then the second
day to talk me into doing what he wants me to do.
It may surprise you to know that, other than the fleet orders, I have not
known what Austria's orders were going to be. He hasn't in the past shared
them with me. I've made some guesses/assumptions but I haven't been any
more correct than the two of you.
I suspect, with the new board position, I will have a good idea of the AEG
and VIE orders and possibly SER but I highly doubt I will know any more than
you regarding WAR/BUD.
I will share what I know when I have more information and that should help
solidify our moves this spring.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
>Something you might be interested in is France has been lobbying quite hard
>for Russia to move Mos-Stp in hopes that will lock down your NWG fleet into
>the defense of Norway (as opposed to it moving to NAO). I doubt Russia can
>afford that move this year
Thank you. For Russia to move an army to StP now would be quite a
sacrifice for him. I am aware that he may want to get Warsaw this year and
build in StP next year.
>I know what I can do to rein in Austria. What are you planning to do to
>limit German growth?
Solicit your help in an anti-German alliance? Just kidding; that's far
down the road.
Right now Germany is in great shape, but I don't expect him to grow this
year. Anyway, the players in this game are too good to let anyone run away
with an easy victory.
Ivy
Message from Austria to Italy
> Let me know if you need/want support into Greece. We'd have to be careful
> about a retreat to Albania though.
I was actually thinking Ion-Alb in the spring, and then go after Greece in
the fall. It might even be best if you yourself end up with Greece, but we
don't have to decide that yet.
If Turkey is likely to passively support Con, we can put enourmous pressure
on with Smy-Arm, Aeg s Eas-Smy. He's more likely to use Ank s Con-Smy. We
could try to take advantage of that with Smy-Arm, Aeg-Con, Eas-Aeg.
I would like to get at least a guess for a build. Either Germany or Russia
is likely to pick up Warsaw, so I may exit voluntarily in the spring so that
I have more options in the fall.
Do you have any other suggestions?
Idalia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Austria to Italy
I tried to get Turkey to stab Russia, claiming I was afraid of you and was
hoping for his help. No luck at all.
Idalia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from France to all
Spring 1903 Symposium on Philosophy, Europe and
Everything.
- by Prince Xavier Boar
[This is Stuart Scott here. Trey Wingo lost this job
because of his relationship to Ivy Wingo. It is not wise
to be related to someone who betrays the Dauphin. He got
the Axe, had a date with Mr. Guillotine, you get the
picture. After carefully consulting my family tree, and
knowing that I am not related to any of the leaders in
Europe, I accepted this job. I could not resists after
reading all Trey's postcards describing the beautiful
babes.]
[Well it is time to play the uncensored parts of Prince
Boar's speech and add my witty commentary.]
My dear French people, as you all know, things have not
gone well for France. We are under attack from both our
Northern and Eastern Borders. For now the South appears
to be safe, but the Italians may be mustering for war as
well. Our sources tell us of their expanding navy. But
I implore you to keep your hope. The Dauphin and I will
do all that we can to make certain that our betrayers do
not benefit from their treachery.
We shall Protect in Paris, and Battle in Burgundy. We
will Punish in Picardy and berate in Brest. We shall
Garrison in Gascony, Beset in Belgium, Ravage in Ruhr,
Malign in Munich, and Maul in Marseilles. We will
Persecute in Portugal and Skirmish in Spain. Our Navies
will Maraude in the Mid-Atlantic Ocean, Nip at the North
Atlantic Ocean, Invade the Irish Sea, and Engage in the
English Channel. Our people shall never give up!
[Quite the big talker and a guy who knows how to use a
Thesaurus. Perhaps he can toss it at Frederick when he
arrives in Paris at the head of his armies. Next he gets
into some private French strategy, if you call looking up
nasty words that start with the letter 'I' a strategy. I
assure you that no one discussed the color of the
Dauphin's underwear this time. But the rumor has it that
the Dauphin sent a pair of Hot Pink ones with Bats and
Mediterranean Blue with Speckled Eggs to Diploman and Boy
Gambit respectively.]
Philosophy
A neighbor has suggested that France is being attacked
because we were too likeable. That we should have
purposely been less likeable to not make ourselves a
target. The irony is that this neighbor is more likeable
than we are. But it is an interesting philosophy
nevertheless. It is a philosophy, however, that I must
reject. Instead I choose to follow the personal
philosophy of the great Marcus Aurelius. He is a man of
my own heart in that he was both a Caesar of Roman and a
wise stoic philosopher. To him, the wise man "will not
go against the divinity that is planted in his breast;
but rather he will preserve his deepest inner self in
tranquillity. He will, above all, preserve his own
autonomy and integrity, and not let anything alienate him
from himself". Words that I can live by. If I fail
France by being who I am, then I must apologize. But I
shall not fail myself by being myself.
[He may not fail himself, but we wonder if he is full of
himself. He is deluding himself that he is likeable. He
can't seem to convince a soul to do the simplest things.
Maybe we should get that Sport Center Advertisement team
over here to work on his image.]
[Well, thankfully that is all folk. Until next year.
Stuart]
Message from Russia to Italy and Turkey
Gentlemen,
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
>
> I have not yet heard from Austria so I do not know his plans to date.
> It may surprise you to know that, other than the fleet orders, I have
> not known what Austria's orders were going to be. He hasn't in the
> past shared them with me.
That doesn't surprise me, actually. You might offer to coordinate
Tyl with Vie this Spring, though, and see if it generates any Army info.
(What do you plan to do with Tyl this Spring, anyway?)
> I suspect, with the new board position, I will have a good idea of the AEG
> and VIE orders and possibly SER but I highly doubt I will know any more
> than you regarding WAR/BUD.
Partial information is better than no information at all, and I thank
you in
advance for any help you can provide.
In Alliance,
Nick.
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I know that I am being too pushy, but I am a bit
desperate. I ask you to make a statement of support for
me. I ask you to attack Munich to break it's support for
an attack on Burgundy. That might be the only thing that
keeps Burgundy free of German units. If he enters
Burgundy, he has a pretty good shot at Marseilles because
I will not attempt to block him. My priority is to hold
Brest and Iberia from England.
This attack on Munich is more important than simply a
good tactical move that helps me defend France. It is a
political statement to England and Germany that they are
in for a long, long battle to slowly erode my position
and take France. This may cause one or the other to
rethink their position. One may eventually stab the
other and this can only be a very good thing for you. It
breaks up a potentially strong alliance that you must
later face. If you stab Austria, your only options for
an alliance to balance it is Russia or Turkey. Russia
may be too weak to be useful. Turkey is not well
positioned to join you against EG. You must also worry
about being between him and England.
I realize that you want to keep a friendly relationship
with Germany for the future. However, you can simply
tell him that it was in retaliation for his move to
Bohemia without your blessing. Tell him that you want to
slow down EG until you are ready to take your share of
France, tell him to go fly a kite if you like. I am sure
that you can put a good enough spin on your move to
pacify him.
I ask this in friendship, I ask this in desperation, I
ask this for our future. If you support me (as I know
you have already agreed to help with your new fleet), but
if I know that you did everything that you could to help
me and I must decide whom to give my last centers to ....
you would obviously be the beneficiary.
-- Prince Boar
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
My German friend tells me that the two of you are 'having words' over his
army in TYR. Apparently he wants you to back away. Please forgive him.
That's what you or I would want if we were Germany, after all. And you do
have to admit that you were the agressor in that you moved next to his
supply center.
Anyway, I am not lobbying you to move. My only request is that you not
take offense at Germany and escalate a war of words. I trust you to remain
calm; I can't be sure of the Germany personality yet. We never know just
who we might want or need for allies a few years down the road. I may want
Austrian help against Germany. You may want German help against Austria.
We both should live that long!
Cheers,
Ivy
p.s. I am getting all sorts of stories about what France is attempting.
One person congratulated me for trying to "put the bell on the cat."
Anyway, France's panic, if it is that, is much premature. He will have his
five centers for quite some time. In the meantime, he can take a little
heat. He's a big boy.
Message from Russia to Austria and Italy
Have you made a decision regarding Sil and Boh? The
deadline approaches.
Czar Nicholas II.
Message [from France] to all
BG> Holey Underoos Diploman. What a nice gift from the Dauphin!
DM> Yes it was. I will wear mine tonight, after I take off my costume. I do
hope that France is not trying to buy us with this gift.
BG> Absolutely Diploman. We must remain impartial observers in our vigil to
bring the betrayers to justice!
DM> Speaking of which, the alliances stayed pretty steady this season.
BG> I agree. Next year could be more interesting though. Say, do you want to
go model our new undies?
DM> Sure, why not. Let's get out of here.
Message from Italy to England
>
> My German friend tells me that the two of you are 'having
> words' over his army in TYR.
^^^
There you go again with your Freudian slips. He's not in Tyrolia, I am.
Again you ask? You did the same thing when Russia moved to STP. Your
message to me was "The EFG situation is still all mixed up with the Russian
surprise move to Finland causing us all to figure out what it eventually
means." The odd thing is, this was sent prior to Russia actually moving to
Finland. So, my question is, do you do this intentionally or do you really
know where everybody is planning on moving?
> Apparently he wants you to back away. Please forgive him.
> That's what you or I would want if we were Germany, after
> all. And you do have to admit that you were the agressor
> in that you moved next to his supply center.
>
Aggressor? That's probably where the difference of opinion lies. Let me
give you the history. Prior to S'01, Germany sent both AI a message saying
he wouldn't mind an army in Tyrolia as long as he knew in advance and the
reasons for the move. As the negotiations unfolded and it became clear AI
would take place, I asked Germany if I could move to Tyrolia with the
purpose of eventually moving it north against Russia. I got no response so
I let Germany know that I didn't want to move there without his okay and so
I held. In F'01, I once again against Germany and listed off the reasons
and once again I got no response. So I moved to Tyrolia. Germany still
didn't say a word. Now, all of a sudden, France is in Burgundy and my unit
is a "threat" to Munich. It is my contention that EG could have prevented
France from getting to Burgundy in the first place but Germany, for some
inexplicable reason, ordered 'Kie s Hol' in S'02 instead of moving to Ruhr.
So, just because France is in Burgundy, which could have been prevented,
doesn't, in my mind, give Germany the right to ask me to retreat Tyrolia.
As far as future allies, I have no less than 3 other countries asking me to
remain in Tyrolia. Thus, retreating from the position may placate Germany,
but it will also, at the same time, cause concern for several other
"potential allies". I'm sure you understand the position I'm in. One step
forward, three steps back.
Now, if you want to pass on something to Germany, and I've already told him
this, consider this bit of advice. Prior to his move to Bohemia, the
discussions in the east never even made mention of Germany and what he was
doing. Oh, I imagine Russia would hint at German intentions but nothing
ever made it back to me. Now, after the move to Bohemia, that is all the
east is discussing. Now, there is a rally cry to stop the EG alliance. Is
that what the two of you really wanted to see happen? Certainly there is
something better Germany can do with that army than harrass his eastern
neighbors.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Germany
>
> So it's probably a misunderstanding. You were feeling that I was
> threatening Venice, while I thought that my message conveyed that I'd
> like to see everyone out of TYR.
>
Actually, I felt more like you were threatening my Austrian ally than you
were threatening Venice.
I will agree to move out of Tyrolia, against the wishes of Austria and
France, after you retreat Bohemia someplace north. Is this agreeable?
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Austria and Russia
>
> Have you made a decision regarding Sil and Boh? The
> deadline approaches.
>
I can see a great advantage in coordinating an attack to potentially destroy
the Bohemian army or, at the very least, force it to retreat. The question
arises is, who moves and who supports? I can understand Russia not wanting
to move further from his home centers. I can understand Austria not wanting
to leave a home center vacate especially given the fact that Budapest can be
attacked. I'm a bit reluctant to make the move fearing Mun-Tyr thus leaving
Venice undefended.
Bottom line is, I believe, no decision has been reached but Tyrolia is
available to support an attack against Bohemia if either of you so choose to
make the move.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> Have you made a decision regarding Sil and Boh? The
> deadline approaches.
>
How do we want to handle this situation. Mutually supporting each other
sounds a bit passive but it actually might be the best approach. You have
more at stake than I do so I'll go along with whatever you think is best.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Austria and Italy
>Message from Italy to Austria and Russia in 'titleist':
>Tyrolia is available to support an attack against Bohemia
Galicia is available to support War-Sil, (or Vie-Boh,
I suppose, but War-Sil makes more sense, if only one of
these moves is going to be made). Given that I would not
be in Gal, if Austria had not occupied Warsaw, I will not
move foward until the Archduke leaves Warsaw, but once
that occurs, I will happily attack Germany.
Sincerely,
Czar Nicholas II.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
I remain committed to RIFT, but see no harm in
encouraging Austria to attack Germany.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> I remain committed to RIFT, but see no harm in
> encouraging Austria to attack Germany.
>
Same here. Agreed. Ditto.
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia
Just so you're aware, the next message (sent to both you and Turkey) was
being penned as our discussion surrounding Austria was taking place. The
context thus may appear a bit out of whack.
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
I've heard from Austria. He has suggested Ion-Alb with an attack on Greece
in the fall. As I thought, no mention of what his armies would do. I will
continue to press him for further information.
> (What do you plan to do with Tyl this Spring, anyway?)
If I knew, I'd tell you. :)
My problem with moving to Trieste in the spring is, there is a high
percentage that Austria would kick me out in the fall and nothing would be
gained. If I had an unbreakable support, I'd be more comfortable in making
the move in the spring. As far as I can tell, only the ADR quaifies which
means I wouldn't be able to convoy to ALB. Lots of options but I still
don't know which is best.
Turkey has offered to swap SMY for GRE and that's the approach I'm taking
right now. The difficult part is, if I make any moves that look like I'm in
cahoots with Turkey, Austria will be tipped-off and it would be virtually
impossible for me to "sneak" into Trieste in the fall which, of course,
means I should move in the spring and we've come full circle to the
paragraph above.
Is everybody's head spinning yet? :)
Do these moves make any sense:
gal-bud
gre-ser
rum s gal-bud
bla s rum
con-bul
ank-smy
smy-eas-ion-alb
tyr-tri
The hope would be that Budapest would be dislodged without a retreat option.
I'm not certain, but if that happened, I think all of Austria's units could
be attacked in the fall breaking any support he may have to re-capture what
he lost in the spring. There is a possibility that Greece would not have a
retreat if attacked but given Austria's concern about a retreat to Albania,
I tend to believe him when he suggested a fall attack.
I welcome your comments.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
>> My German friend tells me that the two of you are 'having
>> words' over his army in TYR.
> ^^^
>
>There you go again with your Freudian slips. He's not in Tyrolia, I am.
>Again you ask? You did the same thing when Russia moved to STP. Your
>message to me was "The EFG situation is still all mixed up with the Russian
>surprise move to Finland causing us all to figure out what it eventually
>means." The odd thing is, this was sent prior to Russia actually moving to
>Finland. So, my question is, do you do this intentionally or do you really
>know where everybody is planning on moving?
Neither, of course. At least I have not yet composed a letter to one
nation and sent it accidentally to another. That's happened to me several
times in the past. Finland is easy to explain. I was obsessed with the
possibility that StP would move there to permit another build in StP. I
have no explanation for this current slip.
>Aggressor? That's probably where the difference of opinion lies. Let me
>give you the history. ...
Clear enough, and your acccount rings true.
>Now, all of a sudden, France is in Burgundy and my unit
>is a "threat" to Munich.
Well, yes, this is true, no matter how your army found its way to Tyrolia
and no matter that France shouldn't be in Burgundy.
>So, just because France is in Burgundy, which could have been prevented,
>doesn't, in my mind, give Germany the right to ask me to retreat Tyrolia.
He always has the right to ask. The tone he takes is another matter.
>As far as future allies, I have no less than 3 other countries asking me to
>remain in Tyrolia.
I did not ask you to depart. I know better than that. I was just trying
to keep the verbal sparring between you and Germany from escalating.
>Now, if you want to pass on something to Germany, and I've already told him
>this, consider this bit of advice. Prior to his move to Bohemia, the
>discussions in the east never even made mention of Germany and what he was
>doing.
Certain moves are guaranteed to irritate. For example, Moscow->StP,
Munich->Bohemia, and yes, Venice->Tyrolia. There are diplomatic
consequences. I did not know that Germany was going to Bohemia, and when I
saw that he had it was clear that he was stirring up a hornets nest.
>Now, there is a rally cry to stop the EG alliance.
They are very dangerous. It's obvious they will pick up two or three new
centers this year.
>Is that what the two of you really wanted to see happen?
The "two" of us? I have yet to persuade Germany do anything that he was
not already going to do. I have yet to know Germany's moves in advance. I
knew I was taking a risk in attacking France. But, hey, it's an adventure.
>Life is Beautiful,
[So are you when you get worked up. I hadn't seen that side of you before.]
Yours,
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
>
> He always has the right to ask.
>
Correct. Bad choice of words on my part. He can ask anything. He came
across as if he was expecting me to support France into Munich and to
alleviate his fear of attack he was considering forcefully removing my army.
That didn't sit well with the Vatican who is opposed to any type of military
force (unless it is used against the Turks).
>
> I did not ask you to depart. I know better than that. I was
> just trying to keep the verbal sparring between you and
> Germany from escalating.
>
It has calmed down. I sent a proposal to Germany asking him to retreat from
Bohemia and then I would retreat from Tyrolia. Yes, I would expect him to
move first as defense of my allies home centers is vital to my long-term
survival.
>
> Certain moves are guaranteed to irritate. For example, Moscow->StP,
> Munich->Bohemia, and yes, Venice->Tyrolia.
But the critical difference, to my knowledge at least, is that Germany had
prior knowledge of my move and had previously consented to allow either
Austria or myself to occupy Tyrolia. As far as I can tell, you did not know
about Moscow->Stp and Austria and I certainly were unaware of
Munich->Bohemia. When somebody makes an "irritating" move and then
immediately pleads innocent and asks for a favor is not the approach I would
condone.
>
> >Now, there is a rally cry to stop the EG alliance.
>
> They are very dangerous. It's obvious they will pick up two
> or three new centers this year.
>
[sarcasm mode off] :)
It's believed that, if not checked, EG could become a major problem within a
couple of years. It may not happen this year but I could certainly envision
three or more centers going EG's way in a few years.
>
> >Is that what the two of you really wanted to see happen?
>
> The "two" of us? I have yet to persuade Germany do anything
> that he was not already going to do.
>
That's the perception in the east that EG are one and the same until proven
otherwise. Guilty by association I guess.
>
> >Life is Beautiful,
>
> [So are you when you get worked up. I hadn't seen that side
> of you before.]
>
Hey, what can I say, I'm Italian.
Btw, I'll be moving Nap-Tys this spring. If I can get my share of Iberia, I
think I can calm the fears of EG in the east.
Roberto
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> What would really help would be to learn more about your motivations.
> Specifically, how does Bla S Arm-Sev fit in with your
> proposal of FIRT vs. EGA?
It doesn't. We would only do such a move if we didn't need/want Russia.
He's a weak partner right now militarily and I see no reason to believe he
will last thru the mid-game. It would be better for IT if we controlled
those centers before Germany.
> How do you see things shaking out in the long run?
I would forsee an IT vs EG shaping up. TG with armies fighting for control
of the center and IE with fleets fighting for control of the MAO. Whomever
broke thru first (or got the other to stab his partner) would gain the
advantage.
> How can we use German forces against Austria, while
> setting up Germany for attack from Russia?
I don't have an answer to that question. Russia has stated to me on more
than one occassion that he is unwilling to attack Germany until he controls
Warsaw again. A reasonable argument.
> When would you be willing to carry out an attack
> against Austria yourself?
>
At any time given the correct circumstances. See my previous letter. What
I don't want to do is stab Austria and not gain a build out of the deal.
Stabbing requires the loss of Smyrna so I'd have to get two in return.
Greece and Trieste would be fine but I'd like to see you get a build out of
the deal as well and that would mean you'd have to take something from
Austria (Ser) or Russia (Sev). I understand your reluctance to agree to
Smy-Arm so I'm working on other options as per my last message. Black Sea
moving to Sevastopol would have similar effects but your fleet is overworked
as it is as the sole support for Rumania.
I look forward to your analysis.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Thank you for writing. I was very much looking forward to hearing from you.
> We would only do such a move if we didn't need/want Russia.
> He's a weak partner right now militarily and I see no reason to believe he
> will last thru the mid-game. It would be better for IT if we controlled
> those centers before Germany.
I concur. It's also clear that if I'm going to attack him, this year would
be a good time to do so. If Austria supports Aeg-Gre this turn, then
Con-Bla-Sev in the fall might do the trick.
> I would forsee an IT vs EG shaping up. TG with armies fighting for
control
> of the center and IE with fleets fighting for control of the MAO.
Whomever
> broke thru first (or got the other to stab his partner) would gain the
> advantage.
This certainly works for me. I think in such a scenario, it would be far
more likely that England would attack Germany, who would surely have his
back turned to him. If things go as I hope, you and I will both be too
strong to invite the stab, and we'll have clear and defensible lines between
us, prohibiting any IT stab temptations.
> > How can we use German forces against Austria, while
> > setting up Germany for attack from Russia?
>
> I don't have an answer to that question. Russia has stated to me on more
> than one occassion that he is unwilling to attack Germany until he
controls
> Warsaw again. A reasonable argument.
Indeed. From what I'm hearing, it seems Germany and Russia are tentatively
discussing cooperation against Austria, although both seem to expect GR
conflict immediately afterward.
> > When would you be willing to carry out an attack
> > against Austria yourself?
> >
>
> At any time given the correct circumstances. See my previous letter.
What
> I don't want to do is stab Austria and not gain a build out of the deal.
> Stabbing requires the loss of Smyrna so I'd have to get two in return.
> Greece and Trieste would be fine but I'd like to see you get a build out
of
> the deal as well and that would mean you'd have to take something from
> Austria (Ser) or Russia (Sev). I understand your reluctance to agree to
> Smy-Arm so I'm working on other options as per my last message. Black Sea
> moving to Sevastopol would have similar effects but your fleet is
overworked
> as it is as the sole support for Rumania.
Actually, for this turn at least support of Rum won't be needed, since
Gre-Ser, Gal-Bud cuts any support against Rum. My concern is that if
Austria orders Ser S Aeg-Gre this turn, and I move Con-Bul, then my army in
Greece would be destroyed. I also had planned to order in such a way as to
protect myself against an AI attack, just in case, perhaps with Bla S Con,
Con S Ank-Smy. In any case, your proposal of Tyr-Tri, Smy-Alb was music to
my ears.
The best result would be if Gre were dislodged from Aeg this turn, then
retreats to Bul. This gives you Gre in the fall, with Bul/Ion S Alb-Gre,
Rum S Bud, Bud S Tri, Con-Bla-Sev. Even if Austria doesn't make this
attack, then Gre-Bul, Ion S Alb-Gre should work with Rum-Ser, EMS-Aeg to cut
Austrian supports.
I'm optimistic that Germany may attack Vie this turn, in which case Russia
will gain Budapest. So, I think you'll be pretty secure in Tri in the fall,
as I see no reason why Russia wouldn't give you the needed support. Or,
Rum-Ser, Bud-Vie (or Boh-Vie) serves the same purpose. If all goes as
planned, Austria's A Bud will be destroyed in the spring.
Russia is pushing for Con-Bul, Ank S Bla-Con, no doubt due to his
vulnerability in Sevastopol. My current orders are Gre-Ser, Rum S Gal-Bud,
Bla S Con, Con S Ank-Smy, though I've not yet decided for sure what to do in
Turkey/Bul. I've already revealed much more of my thoughts to you than I
had promised to the paranoid ranting voices in the back of my head. I have
a sense that this is a crucial juncture, but I'm still not convinced of the
best course.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the above. Please write at your
earliest convenience.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Is there any way you can convince Austria to make his attack on Gre in the
spring? He's clearly worried about my retreat to Alb; you could claim that
you don't want your fleet sitting in Alb in the fall, and that with Ion-Alb
in the spring, that's all he needs to get my army out of there. Just a
thought.
Ali
Message from Turkey to Italy and Russia
Gentlemen,
I am greatly encouraged by Italy's suggestion of Tyr-Tri, Smy-Alb, and I
concur in general with his proposed combination. My only reservation is
that if I move to Bul, and Gre is dislodged, then my army will be destroyed.
I had also planned to protect my home centers against the event of continued
AI attacks. So I cannot commit specifically to how Bla, Con and Ank will
move; but I do agree to order Gre-Ser, Rum S Gal-Bud.
Whatever happens, I'm confident that we'll be able to cut any Austrian
support against Trieste, or else possibly support the unit directly from Bud
if Russia's attack succeeds. I also agree to help Italy into Greece, in
return for his withdrawal from Smyrna. I am confident that with the three
of us working together, Austria can be destroyed quickly, and all three of
us will benefit.
Regards,
Ali Baba
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> Is there any way you can convince Austria to make his attack
> on Gre in the
> spring? He's clearly worried about my retreat to Alb; you
> could claim that
> you don't want your fleet sitting in Alb in the fall, and
> that with Ion-Alb
> in the spring, that's all he needs to get my army out of
> there. Just a
> thought.
>
I will try. Do you prefer Aeg-Gre or Ser-Gre? I think it would be fairly
difficult to convince him of the latter.
Roberto
ps: give me a few more minutes to digest your previous message
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
> I will try. Do you prefer Aeg-Gre or Ser-Gre? I think it would be fairly
> difficult to convince him of the latter.
Many thanks. I very much prefer Aeg-Gre, since it gives opportunity for
Con-Sev in the fall.
> ps: give me a few more minutes to digest your previous message
No problem. Write when you get a chance.
Ali
Message from England to Italy
Good Roberto,
>It has calmed down. I sent a proposal to Germany asking him to retreat from
>Bohemia and then I would retreat from Tyrolia.
Not too different from what I suggested. I suggested that he calmly use
Bohemia to support Munich and make no further agressives moves with it.
>It's believed that, if not checked, EG could become a major problem within a
>couple of years.
Well, I certainly hope so.
>It may not happen this year but I could certainly envision
>three or more centers going EG's way in a few years.
Again, I hope so. Just enough to match Austria/Italian progress. No more,
no less.
Look, I want the EG partnership to work. My goal in this game has been
stated very clearly to Germany. It is to survive with strength equal to,
but not greater than, other survivors. I don't want a target on my back
because I am dangerous. I have no hope of growing rapidly, and I don't
want to. Germany knows that he must not grow while I inch across the
Atlantic. I don't expect Germany to make a play for any centers this year.
If Germany races ahead of me, then our alliance is over -- and I am in
deep trouble.
What does this all mean in the long run? Given the quality of players in
the game, we are not going to see silly stabs or entertaining novelties.
We will see alliance switching based on sound strategies. For example, if
I am a survivor and France is not, I am completely open to reconfigured
alliances afterwards.
>That's the perception in the east that EG are one and the same until proven
>otherwise. Guilty by association I guess.
Yeah. Fair enough. But read the moves. Notice the perfect EG
coordination. Communication has stunk, but we are getting better.
>Btw, I'll be moving Nap-Tys this spring. If I can get my share of Iberia, I
>think I can calm the fears of EG in the east.
And/or Marseilles?
I would be delighted with Nap-Tys-Lyo. Even more with Tys-Pie. You know
that Germany is not really going to attack Italy.
Can we agree that Western Med is off limits?
I like this, Roberto. This is getting interesting!
Ivy
Message from Austria to Italy
> How do we want to handle this situation. Mutually supporting each other
> sounds a bit passive but it actually might be the best approach. You have
> more at stake than I do so I'll go along with whatever you think is best.
I don't want to tell Russia that Vie won't be supporting Bud. As far as I
can tell, T and R are still jointly attacking me.
If I tell Russia that Vie *is* supporting Bud, then if Germany is willing to
cooperate with him, he can order Boh-Vie to cut that support.
I expect I'll be making a collection of support-cutting moves, such as
Ser-Rum, Bud-Rum, etc, trying to not lose any centers and then pick up
Greece in the fall.
Do you have any other suggestions?
Idalia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> As far as I can tell, T and R are still jointly attacking me.
>
I think that is a safe assumption.
> If I tell Russia that Vie *is* supporting Bud, then if
> Germany is willing to cooperate with him, he can order
> Boh-Vie to cut that support.
>
I guess what I need to know is, will Vienna be holding/supporting. If so,
I'd order Tyr s Vie. If not, would Tyr-Boh be of assistance?
> I expect I'll be making a collection of support-cutting moves, such as
> Ser-Rum, Bud-Rum, etc, trying to not lose any centers and then pick up
> Greece in the fall.
>
> Do you have any other suggestions?
>
Not really. Now is not the time to sit around and try to issue support
orders.
I don't think we ever got around to finalizing orders in and around Turkey.
I'm intrigued by Smy-Arm with Eas-Smy support from Aegean but if you think
Turkey will order Con-Smy then the best counter to that would be Aeg-Con
support from Smyrna.
Currently, my orders are:
ion-alb
smy - arm
eas - smy
tyr s vie
Please confirm or adjust as needed.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Austria to Italy
> I don't think we ever got around to finalizing orders in and around Turkey.
> I'm intrigued by Smy-Arm with Eas-Smy support from Aegean but if you think
> Turkey will order Con-Smy then the best counter to that would be Aeg-Con
> support from Smyrna.
>
> Currently, my orders are:
>
> ion-alb
> smy - arm
> eas - smy
> tyr s vie
Aeg will support Eas-Smy, but Vie will be moving. Tyr-Boh might be
helpful.
Nap-Ion or Nap-TyS probably depends on how much help France has asked for,
but if it's a tossup, Nap-Ion will ease the recovery of Greece.
Idalia, for Austria-Hungary, by the grace of Archduke Ferdinand
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> Aeg will support Eas-Smy, but Vie will be moving. Tyr-Boh might be
> helpful.
>
Thanks, orders have been modified.
> Nap-Ion or Nap-TyS probably depends on how much help
> France has asked for, but if it's a tossup, Nap-Ion
> will ease the recovery of Greece.
>
He's asked for a lot including Tyr-Mun. I think it's prudent to move the
fleet that way though so unless it's absolutely critical to the recovery of
Greece, I'm going to order Nap-Tys.
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
Any thoughts as the deadline approaches? If possible, please write to
confirm Tyr-Tri, Smy-Alb. I am committed to doing whatever is necessary to
get you Tri and Gre in exchange for Smy, and to long-term IT alliance after
that.
If you have any concerns, please write at once so we can get them ironed
out. Otherwise, I am cautiously optimistic that we will be able to quickly
rebuild our relations into a strong alliance.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
After consulting with my crystal ball, otherwise known as the Archduke, here
are the optimum moves for the spring:
rum-ser
gre s rum-ser
ank-smy
con-bul
bla-rum
gal-war
mos s gal-war
I don't expect you to make those moves. Heck, nobody expects you to make
those moves. But they counter the following pretty dang well:
ser-rum
bud-rum
vie-gal
mos s vie-gal
aeg s eas-smy
With smy-alb and tyr-tri, Serbia has no retreat. Heck, Trieste wouldn't
even need a support in the fall.
My orders don't change but just a heads-up that Gal-Bud will not succeed.
It's up to the two of you whether you want to change your orders.
Life is Beautiful,
The Mole
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> Any thoughts as the deadline approaches?
>
Just as I was about to click 'Send', I get your message. Juicy stuff, eh?
Roberto
Message from Turkey to Italy and Russia
Gentlemen,
I thank Roberto for his juicy intelligence. I am inclined to go along with
his suggestion. I have entered the moves he suggests, pending Russian
approval.
Ali
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
> Just as I was about to click 'Send', I get your message. Juicy stuff, eh?
Yes indeed. I'm feeling more and more confident that you're on the level.
I hope I don't discover that I'm just kidding myself. If you move as agreed
this turn, then we'll have a whole new ballgame.
Ali
Message from Italy to Turkey
The trade of Trieste and Greece for Smyrna (Italy's side); Smyrna and Serbia
for Greece (Turkey's side) is good for the both of us. It gets all of our
units south of a common enemy and we just start pushing north and west.
I anticipate my fleet strength will be sufficient to hold you to the Greece
swap in the fall. I'm sure the last thing you want is my fleets hanging
around the Eastern Med and Aegean.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy and Turkey
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
> I don't expect you to make those moves, but they counter the following
> pretty dang well:
>
> ser-rum
> bud-rum
> vie-gal
> mos s vie-gal
> aeg s eas-smy
Did Austria tell you he was making these moves? Obviously, that's
the implication, but you didn't actually say so... You have, however,
repeatedly said, that the Archduke never tells you what he's doing with
his Armies, so why now, and why in such detail?
I see three possibilities:
1) He's heard from somewhere that you plan to attack him, and is
spreading disinformation.
2) He's worried and desparate, and was seeking reassurance that his
moves would work.
3) You've decided to stick with Austria, and are trying to turn our
attacks, and open up Turkey to lose Con.
Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
A Curious,
Nick.
Message from Italy to France
>
> I know that I am being too pushy, but I am a bit
> desperate. I ask you to make a statement of support for
> me. I ask you to attack Munich to break it's support for
> an attack on Burgundy.
>
I regret to inform you that I have decided not to issue Tyr-Mun this spring.
Analyzing the board, if Germany were planning on capturing Burgundy I
suspect he would move Mun-Bur with support and follow that up with Ber-Mun.
My move to Munich would do nothing but antaganize Germany for no particular
use.
Pic-Bel
Gas s Bur
should be sufficient in holding Burgundy.
As my fleet arrives, we can look at other ways to defend against EG.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey
>
> Did Austria tell you he was making these moves? Obviously, that's
> the implication, but you didn't actually say so... You
> have, however, repeatedly said, that the Archduke never tells you
> what he's doing with his Armies, so why now, and why in such detail?
Good questions. I hope I have some answers. [picture Roberto pulling
rabbit out of hat] :)
He didn't actually tell me directly those were his moves. But, when I
queried him regarding 'Tyrolia support Vienna' he replied with 'don't
bother, it's moving'. Where else would it move other than Galicia? Second,
he's been truthful regarding his fleet move to date and he suggested Smy-Arm
and Eas-Smy and taking Greece back in the fall. Third, I'm the Archduke and
I'm looking at the map and thinking Rumania is supporting something to
either Budapest or Serbia so let's cut any possible support with both armies
(he hinted at such a move in an earlier message). The only moves that make
the Austrian moves fail as outlined are the moves I gave you and the odds of
them occurring without intelligence gathering is minimal at best.
> I see three possibilities:
> 1) He's heard from somewhere that you plan to attack him, and is
> spreading disinformation.
In which case my goose is cooked either way I move.
> 2) He's worried and desparate, and was seeking reassurance that his
> moves would work.
I'm quite sure the first part of this sentence is true.
> 3) You've decided to stick with Austria, and are trying to turn our
> attacks, and open up Turkey to lose Con.
>
I did prefice the message with, "I don't expect you to make those
moves....".
> Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
>
Other than directly quoting Austrian press (which can be fabricated anyway),
no. They are my assumptions as to what Austria will order from having
pieced together several press messages. I believe the odds are greater than
50% those will be his moves. And if they are, he'd be completely crippled
come winter. I don't often switch alliances very easily. It requires a
great deal of benefit to my nation for me to consider it. Truthfully,
Austria has served her purpose to me. I have fleet superiority throughout
the Med that will be difficult to match anytime soon. Seeing Austria pull
her lone fleet will give that much more security to Italy.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
Thank you for the honest answer, rather than simply
ignoring my request. I was hoping that you might agree
because of your suggestion last turn that if I made it to
Burgundy that we could do something concerning Munich.
I realize that the attack on Munich may not be a
tactically strong move. However, Bur s Tyr -> Mun would
take Munich with the orders you suggested; therefore,
Germany may instead choose Ruh -> Bur s by Mun which is
why I want Tyr -> Mun.
But I was hoping you would say yes for the larger
political statement it would make. You would be telling
England that you will defend France so he is in for a
even longer haul than expected. I do realize the
political price that it would cost you with Germany.
That is why I was throwing in the promise that if I am
about to die, I would pass as many of my centers to you
as possible, because of the boon you gave me. I would
reward your effort with my loyalty.
But as I stated above, I understand your choice, although
I am disappointed by it. I guess that I will have to try
hard to avoid the situation where I have nothing other
than the option of offering my centers to someone. I do
not yet know what I would do.
I wish you good luck this season and do appreciate your
considering my request. I also look forward to the help
that your fleet has to offer me.
-- Prince Boar
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
>
I figured one of you would be suspicious but I thought it would be Turkey.
Austria has never been a long-term ally choice. Seems the time is right to
take advantage of his position.
The worry is Germany and what his role in these moves will be. If he keeps
his nose where it belongs, we'll be all right. If he sticks his nose where
it doesn't belong, we could have some troubles.
I hope you realize I'm on the level with this one although I understand your
suspicion.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to England
>
> Not too different from what I suggested. I suggested that he
> calmly use Bohemia to support Munich and make no further
> agressives moves with it.
>
I can live with that. Perhaps we can move at the same time in the fall.
>
> Again, I hope so. Just enough to match Austria/Italian
> progress. No more, no less.
>
Fair enough.
>
> we are not going to see silly stabs or entertaining novelties.
Oh, I don't know about that. Belgium->Holland must look inviting. :)
>
> Yeah. Fair enough. But read the moves. Notice the perfect EG
> coordination. Communication has stunk, but we are getting better.
>
Other than Bel s Mun->Bur (* void *), they look fairly well coordinated to
me.
Just so you know, I have no qualms about the EG alliance. I support it
fully. At least until France is eliminated and then I don't like it so
much.
>
> And/or Marseilles?
>
I kinda usually consider Marseilles part of Iberia. Germany told me he has
no problem with you getting all of France. Obviously, I wouldn't want that
but he seemed disinterested in moving west. What has he asked for out of
France if anything at all?
>
> Can we agree that Western Med is off limits?
>
I can tentatively agree to that but I can't fully commit yet to not moving
to the Western Med. After all, you might actually want my assistance to
reach the MAO or risk leaving yourself exposed in Norway.
Life is Beautiful,
Roberto
Message from Italy to Germany
After having a brief conversation with Ivy, I understand he suggested using
Bohemia to support Munich this spring. I can live with that and, depending
on the results tonight, perhaps we can agree to simultaneously move from the
provinces in question during the fall. Let me reiterate that Tyrolia will
not interfere in activities surrounding Munich this year. Is this a
starting point for further negotiations?
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
> > Can you offer anything to support this rather surprizing claim?
>
> I figured one of you would be suspicious but I thought it would be Turkey.
> Austria has never been a long-term ally choice. Seems the time is right to
> take advantage of his position.
It is sort of ironic, I've been reassuring Ali all day, and laying out
why
I thought you were sincere, but that letter had so much more information
than you had given any indication of having before, and it's so close to the
deadline, that I got a major flash of "spider-sense" tingle in my kidneys.
Ali seems confident that it's legit, though.
> The worry is Germany and what his role in these moves will be. If he
keeps
> his nose where it belongs, we'll be all right. If he sticks his nose
where
> it doesn't belong, we could have some troubles.
He's told Turkey and I that he's ordering Boh-Vie.
> I hope you realize I'm on the level with this one although I understand
> your suspicion.
Your follow-up letter makes sense. I was just thrown by the fact that
you didn't indicate how you came into posession of Austria's moves, and
when I combined that with your previous comments about him not
discussing his Army moves, it just set off alarm bells.
In Friendship, and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from Russia to Italy and Turkey
Gentlemen,
> Message from Italy to Russia and Turkey in 'titleist':
> He didn't actually tell me directly those were his moves. But, when I
> queried him regarding 'Tyrolia support Vienna' he replied with 'don't
> bother, it's moving'. Where else would it move other than Galicia?
Trieste is the most obvious alternative....
> I'm looking at the map and thinking Rumania is supporting something to
> either Budapest or Serbia so let's cut any possible support with both
armies
> (he hinted at such a move in an earlier message).
The probem with this is that a you're much better tactician than the
Archduke is. Last Fall, I was sure that he would either order Ukr-Mos,
or Ukr S Gal-War, and attack Rum to protect Ser, and bounce Sev-Rum,
but he didn't, he ordered Gal S Ukr-War, Bud S Ser.
> They are my assumptions as to what Austria will order from having
> pieced together several press messages. I believe the odds are greater
than
> 50% those will be his moves. And if they are, he'd be completely crippled
> come winter.
Fair enough. I don't know that I agree that Austria will make these
moves,
though he should, but you have eliminated the AI stab of Turkey from my
list of explanations.
In Friendship and Alliance,
Nick.
Message from England to Italy
>> And/or Marseilles?
>
>I kinda usually consider Marseilles part of Iberia.
Oh. I guess I need a geography lesson.
>Germany told me he has
>no problem with you getting all of France. Obviously, I wouldn't want that
>but he seemed disinterested in moving west. What has he asked for out of
>France if anything at all?
When you declined to get involved with France earlier, Germany suggested
that I get all of France. He would take Norway and possibly Belgium, but
only when that could be done without unbalancing us.
If you want part of France that is fine with me. I think I made that
obvious from the beginning. It means I will be a little smaller, and that
Germany may not be getting Norway and/or Belgium, at least not with my
blessing. I just want to survive. I don't want my head sticking up any
higher than anyone elses. It would just get shot off.
>> Can we agree that Western Med is off limits?
>I can tentatively agree to that but I can't fully commit yet to not moving
>to the Western Med. After all, you might actually want my assistance to
>reach the MAO or risk leaving yourself exposed in Norway.
I will be in the Western Med by fall on my own. I will either leave myself
exposed in Norway or, if I think it advisable, move Lon-Nth-Nor.
Leaving Western Med off limits would be the key to a very profitable
relationship between us. If France were gone, it would be much easier for
me to work in the north nearer to my supply centers than to attempt an
adventure in the Mediterranean. There is a natural defense line between
France and Italy; none between England and Germany.
Ivy Wingo
p.s. Is England part of Iberia also? Just how big is this place?
Message from Turkey to Italy
Roberto,
> The trade of Trieste and Greece for Smyrna (Italy's side); Smyrna and
Serbia
> for Greece (Turkey's side) is good for the both of us. It gets all of our
> units south of a common enemy and we just start pushing north and west.
Indeed, it's a win-win proposition. And it continues to support even growth
between us, which as you know is a primary concern for me.
> I anticipate my fleet strength will be sufficient to hold you to the
Greece
> swap in the fall. I'm sure the last thing you want is my fleets hanging
> around the Eastern Med and Aegean.
Such things will not be necessary. If you act as promised this turn, you
will be in Greece in the fall. I encourage you to support your move there
as you feel is necessary, and I will not oppose you.
Regards,
Ali
Message from Germany to Italy
> After having a brief conversation with Ivy, I understand he
> suggested using Bohemia to support Munich this spring. I can
> live with that and, depending on the results tonight, perhaps
> we can agree to simultaneously move from the provinces in
> question during the fall. Let me reiterate that Tyrolia will
> not interfere in activities surrounding Munich this year.
> Is this a starting point for further negotiations?
Now we're getting somewhere. I've been away from the flood of email
that came in today. That's probably better.
Your earlier idea of moving TYR after I move BOH wasn't met by a great
deal of enthusiasm here in the German homeland. However a simultaneous
move is reasonable. As is your declaration of noninterference with
Munich this year. You're quite right it is a start. Perhaps we can
pull off the retreat in the fall.
In return I can say that I will not attack TYR this turn.
Fredd
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I figure that I should tell you this. I cannot do the
moves that you suggested, for various reasons. Therefore
if Germany orders Ruh -> Bur supported by Mun, he will
take Bur. I am not sure if this concerns you, but as a
potential ally, I thought it best to keep you apprised of
the situation.
-- Prince Boar
Message from France to all
It is too bad that we did not get the results in last
night. I must leave on a trip in a couple of hours. I
will be gone through next weekend. I was hoping to see
what evil was done (to me an others). We were doing so
well with meeting the deadlines :-)
I am not the person late, therefore my absence will not
hold up processing this set of moves. I asked Doug to
advance the deadline for the next set of moves that I
have orders due. If for some reasons you feel that you
must talk to either Prince Boar or the Dauphin during a
retreat phase (if one occurs) and I do not have a
retreat, then you will have to work that out with Doug.
Regards,
France
Austria: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Italian Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Smyrna (*void*)
Austria: Army Budapest → Rumania (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce, destroyed*)
Austria: Army Vienna → Galicia (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Warsaw → Ukraine
England: Army Belgium SUPPORT German Army Munich → Burgundy (*void*)
England: Fleet English Channel → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet Irish Sea SUPPORT Fleet English Channel → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet London → English Channel (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → North Atlantic Ocean
France: Fleet Brest → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Burgundy → Belgium (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony → Burgundy (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean SUPPORT Fleet Brest → English Channel (*dislodged*)
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT Army Burgundy → Belgium
Germany: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT Fleet Sweden → Gulf of Bothnia
Germany: Army Berlin → Prussia
Germany: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Munich
Germany: Army Munich SUPPORT Army Bohemia
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT English Army Belgium
Germany: Fleet Sweden → Gulf of Bothnia
Italy: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean CONVOY Army Smyrna → Albania
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Smyrna → Albania
Italy: Fleet Naples → Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy: Army Smyrna → Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea → Albania
Italy: Army Tyrolia → Trieste
Russia: Army Galicia → Budapest (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Gulf of Bothnia → Livonia
Russia: Army Moscow → Warsaw
Turkey: Army Ankara → Smyrna
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea → Rumania (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Greece SUPPORT Army Rumania → Serbia
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia
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