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France: Builds 2 units
Italy: Removes 1 unit
Russia: Builds 3 units
Turkey: Removes 1 unit
Message from England to Italy and Russia
Please friends, stay calm. Don't write that note. We were less
coordinated that we could have been, but let's stick together. He cannot
get 18 if we do, and we should be able to reduce him.
Ivy
Message from Italy to Russia
> Russia: Army Livonia -> Warsaw.
I'm trying not to overreact but is there an explanation for this move that
I'm not aware of (other than you wanted your home center back)?
Message from England to Italy
Idalia, (Roberto?)
I really don't attribute Livonia->Warsaw to malice or deception. Russia's
press today was hurried and not always consistent. I had unusual
difficulty coordinating the western moves with him.
I know that you clearly stated that your moves would differ if you were
going to lose Warsaw. I don't think that Nick picked up on this.
I saw the problem coming and tried to step in. But there is only so much
that can be expected of us at the last minute. We have other
responsibilities, families, etc.
I really think that Warsaw was an honest error.
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
> I am very worried that there is going to be an accidental
> misunderstanding between the two of you on what is happening or not >
happening in Warsaw this turn.
Accidental? I'm not 100% sure of that.
Unless I can get a decent explanation for Russia's move, the two of you may
not like my disband.
It's always a dangerous situation when the Italian has to disband because
you just never know what unit he'll pull next. It could be Serbia. It
could be Smyrna. Maybe Rumania would be a good choice.
Idalia
Message from Italy to England
>
> I really think that Warsaw was an honest error.
>
How can you say that? I specifically asked him/you what I should do with
Silesia. He responded with 'Sil s Mun' or the hypothetical Sil-Tyl. That
seemed perfectly clear to me. Where's the gray area? What unit did he
expect me to move to Warsaw for the supposed bounce?
Note, I gave him/you my moves and yet he never gave me his and yet used my
moves against me to take Warsaw. Russia should consider himself lucky if I
ever discuss tactics with him again this game.
I honestly think Russia thinks he'll be awarded second place by having the
second most units when France solos. Either that, or he's still maneuvering
to eliminate me. Either way, we'll both end up losing.
I believe I have a right to be upset this turn regardless of the poor
communication this turn because the only truly necessary communication this
turn (Sil and Gal) was perfectly clear on this end (and I believe perfectly
clear on the other end as well).
Still Idalia (Roberto is the sane, even-tempered one)
Message from Russia to England and Italy
Gentlemen,
I'm sorry about the confusion over Warsaw and the fact that I was out
of touch before the last couple of hours before the deadline. My wife
had some things to do on the PC and my son need help with his
homework. (This is the down-side of not beginning negotiations until
twelve hours before the deadline. Sometimes, not everything gets
settled.)
In talking to Ivy after dinner, I decided that Lvn-War made more
sense with Gal-Vie, and Sev left open, and then I had to go offline.
Hopefully Roberto will not be quite as busy as Idalia has been, now
that the Turk has been eliminated. I will build A Mos, and move
Mos-Ukr, and almost certainly, War-Gal.
Nick.
Message from Russia to all
I'm Setting Wait to give us all a chance to write EoY reports, newspaper
articles, ESPN Philosophy Bowl coverage, etc.
Russia.
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
Today is layoff day at work. I will most likely get my
adjustments in by tonight, but my eoy messages will have
to wait. Right now there are more important concerns.
France
Message from Master to all
Farewell to Turkey, and thank you for playing. If you have time, please
submit by 'press to m' and End-of-game statement for the sake of posterity.
As I've mentioned before, 'titleist' will eventually be a Showcase game
and the readers will no doubt be interested in your take on the game.
Actually, if you prefer, you could broadcast your EOG instead -- it's
up to you. And I'll encourage everyone to add their comments at the
end of the game, as well.
Thanks, again,
Doug
Message from Master to all
Farewell to Turkey, and thank you for playing. If you have time, please
submit by 'press to m' and End-of-game statement for the sake of posterity.
As I've mentioned before, 'titleist' will eventually be a Showcase game
and the readers will no doubt be interested in your take on the game.
Actually, if you prefer, you could broadcast your EOG instead -- it's
up to you. And I'll encourage everyone to add their comments at the
end of the game, as well.
Thanks, again,
Doug
Message from Italy to England and Russia
For the record, if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
likely support French units against ER forces.
For now, I'll disband Armenia (unless somebody has a better idea) and move
forward.
Idalia
Message from Russia to England and Italy
>Message from Italy to England and Russia in 'titleist':
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>if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
>SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
>likely support French units against ER forces.
Noted, without comment.
>I'll disband Armenia (unless somebody has a better idea) and move forward.
Hmmm, Sil or Arm seem like the the obvious candidates.
I should be able to fill the War-Sil-Ber line though,
and I believe we need four Units to hold Turkey, don't
we? So, Sil seems like the better choice to me.
Nick.
Message from England to Italy
>Accidental? I'm not 100% sure of that.
Neither am I. Given Russia's hurried and confused communication with me
yesterday, I prefer to believe it was a mistake.
>How can you say that? I specifically asked him/you what I should do with
>Silesia. He responded with 'Sil s Mun' or the hypothetical Sil-Tyl. That
>seemed perfectly clear to me. Where's the gray area? What unit did he
>expect me to move to Warsaw for the supposed bounce?
It's a little worse than that, because he specifically said at one point
that he was not going to take Warsaw. Then I got a message discussing
western strategy in which he seemed to be assuming that he would have a new
unit in Warsaw. That's when I sent out the late message to try to avert
what happened.
>Russia should consider himself lucky if I
>ever discuss tactics with him again this game.
There's no way to punish him without slitting our own throats. At least
not while France is this size. Maddening.
>I honestly think Russia thinks he'll be awarded second place ...
Second place? Who cares about second place if there is a solo?
I know I can't win. I can accept a draw in certain circumstances, but I've
never accepted a 4-way before. I have to admit that I might be tempted in
this game. It's starting to wear on me.
>I believe I have a right to be upset this turn
I'm upset too. At the late stages of a game in which a unified defense is
necessary, anything that injures one party puts the whole endeavor at risk.
>Still Idalia (Roberto is the sane, even-tempered one)
The real you, I presume.
>for the record, if Italy has to disband another unit because Russia moves to
>SEV, I will start with the unit closest to French territory and will most
>likely support French units against ER forces.
At some point, probably if Russia moves to Sevastopol, I'll join you in
that endeavor. Russia did once promise me he would not touch Sevastopol --
in response to my subtle warning about likely Italian reaction.
>For now, I'll disband Armenia (unless somebody has a better idea) and move
>forward.
Probably best.
Ivy
Message from Italy to England and Russia
>
> Hmmm, Sil or Arm seem like the the obvious candidates.
> I should be able to fill the War-Sil-Ber line though,
> and I believe we need four Units to hold Turkey, don't
> we? So, Sil seems like the better choice to me.
>
Depends what our goal is. If we just want to setup a stalemate line and
accept a 4-way draw and give France the tournament, then yes Silesia is the
correct choice. If, however, our goal is to push France back and continue
this game with 4 relatively equal powers, then Armenia is the correct choice
since I would need to get back to my home centers for this goal to be a
valid one. Armenia has (is there a smaller positive number below zero) no
chance of reaching Italian soil again. At least Silesia has hope for that
one day.
Then, there is what England said, which I think is a mighty fine idea.
No longer Idalia but not quite Roberto yet so I think I'll just sign this
message...........
Italy
Message from Russia to England and Italy
>Message from Italy to England and Russia in 'titleist':
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> > Hmmm, Sil or Arm seem like the obvious candidates.
> > I should be able to fill the War-Sil-Ber line though,
> > and I believe we need four Units to hold Turkey, don't
> > we? So, Sil seems like the better choice to me.
>
> Depends what our goal is. If we just want to setup a
> stalemate line and accept a 4-way draw and give France
> the tournament, then yes Silesia is the correct choice.
> If, however, our goal is to push France back and continue
> this game with 4 relatively equal powers, then Armenia
> is the correct choice since I would need to get back
> to my home centers for this goal to be a valid one.
> Armenia has no chance of reaching Italian soil again.
> At least Silesia has hope for that one day.
Yes, but I vote for establishing the stalemate line,
first, (France IS at 14 Centers, after all.), and then
trying to push Ser-Ven, since Serbia is even closer
than Sil.
Nick.
France: BUILD Fleet Marseilles
France: BUILD Army Paris
Italy: REMOVE Army Armenia
Russia: BUILD Army Moscow
Russia: WAIVE
Russia: WAIVE
Turkey: REMOVE Fleet Black Sea (*no order*)
Centers
England: 7
France: 14
Italy: 6
Russia: 7
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