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Austria: Builds 2 units
England: Builds 1 unit
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Builds 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Italy to France
Erik...
Spain(SC)....help me out here.
Message from Italy to Austria
What can I say....
If the 2 of you take down Russia as fast as it looks like you will, where
does that leave me.
I will behave myself....what would you like to see in order to create at
least a truce between us.
Andy
Message from Italy to Turkey
Howdy....
What do you want to do...
I think that I have a decent position on keeping the Austrian in check.
Message from Italy to Italy
Well...m plan half worked....which isnt good.
I have a strong gut feeling that it would have worked totally if there
werent the continual delays, when turns get drawn out, people get nervous
and conservative.
Which means I probably should have done what I told him I would do....but
you dont ever make anything without risk, so here goes.
Message from France to Italy
>
> Erik...
>
> Spain(SC)....help me out here.
>
Andy:
Hey, don't focus on Spain (sc), focus on A Tyr and A Bur -- pretty darned
anti-German, right? Which, I believe, is what you were gunning for.
Spa (sc) was just to cover myself in case you decided you'd be better off
coming after me after I moved to Piedmont. My build will *not* be in
Marseilles, and as such, I'm not really that threatening to you right now.
Besides, F Spa will be heading to Portugal next year to pick up another
build.
I would have given you more warning of the plan that England I were
developing, but with Tony as the receiving end, I figured the less people
who had word, the better. As promised, though, I did vacate Piedmont.
Anyway, I've only just glanced at the results, so I'm not in a position to
discuss too much right now. I wanted to reassure you sooner rather than
later, though.
More soon,
Erik
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Greece was a nice pick-up for you - you get to spend another year neutrally
while you wander off for TUN. Let me know if there is some information you
would like distributed to your neighbors.
We are nicely positioned in the West, I hope; I wonder what you have in mind
for your build so as not to antagonize any of your several friendly
neighbors. I'll see for myself soon enough, I guess. I continue to need
Erik to work with me, obviously. . .
Ben
Message from Austria to Italy
Andy,
The last thing I want is an AI war, so if you are prepare to
do what's necessary to turn the situation around, I will
gladly cooperate with you later on.
Specifically, I don't want to see you build armies and don't
want to see italian armies in the Balkans. Send Greece
wherever you want, but please move it away from my
border.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
Philippe,
> The last thing I want is an AI war, so if you are prepare to
> do what's necessary to turn the situation around, I will
> gladly cooperate with you later on.
Ok.
> Specifically, I don't want to see you build armies and don't
> want to see italian armies in the Balkans. Send Greece
> wherever you want, but please move it away from my
> border.
I will do what I can. But it will not likely move until fall.
Andy
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
>
> Hey, don't focus on Spain (sc), focus on A Tyr and A Bur -- pretty darned
> anti-German, right? Which, I believe, is what you were gunning for.
>
Yes. But its not like you arent still in a position to attack me.
> Spa (sc) was just to cover myself in case you decided you'd be better off
> coming after me after I moved to Piedmont. My build will *not* be in
> Marseilles, and as such, I'm not really that threatening to you right now.
> Besides, F Spa will be heading to Portugal next year to pick up another
> build.
Ok.
> Anyway, I've only just glanced at the results, so I'm not in a position to
> discuss too much right now. I wanted to reassure you sooner rather than
> later, though.
>
please do.
Message from France to Italy
> Yes. But its not like you arent still in a position to attack me.
Andy, if I'd wanted to actually attack you, I would have lobbied Austria
for cooperation this turn, and I would have ordered F Mao - Wes and Gas -
Spa. A Pie certainly wouldn't have gone to Tyrolia, where it's threatening
to Germany. I know you're worried, but I have absolutely no interest in
attacking you right now.
I do have a very strong interest in attacking Tony, though, which is why A
Mar - Pie has turned out so fortuitous in the end -- A Bur and A Tyr,
while not a decisive force against Germany, certainly put England and I in
a better position than other sets of moves would have.
I appreciate your willingness, so far, to accept my word and continue
focusing on the east. I can assure you that such trust is not without
reward -- I am, as you desired, taking on Tony, and that A Pie opening is
just an unpleasant memory now.
Erik
Message from Italy to England
> Andy -
> Greece was a nice pick-up for you - you get to spend another year neutrally
> while you wander off for TUN. Let me know if there is some information you
> would like distributed to your neighbors.
>
I wasnt that nuetral, I attacked Trieste. And the Austrian is pissed.
> We are nicely positioned in the West, I hope; I wonder what you have in mind
> for your build so as not to antagonize any of your several friendly
> neighbors. I'll see for myself soon enough, I guess. I continue to need
> Erik to work with me, obviously. . .
Well...Eriks move to the South coast of Spain was a surprise, but we shall
see.
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> I wasnt that nuetral, I attacked Trieste. And the
> Austrian is pissed.
Ah. I had thought you expected it to bounce - I guess you did - but it
didn't seem like a big deal. This is what I was talking about - if you want
me to talk to him, recommend he try to work with you or whatever - let me
know.
> Well...Eriks move to the South coast of Spain was a
> surprise, but we shall see.
In the context of his other moves - I don't think you need to be too
worried. You make him nervous but as you can see he has other fish to fry
right now.
Ben
Message from Germany to Italy
Interesting moves mate.
Message from Italy to Germany
>
> Interesting moves mate.
>
Like I told him.
It just looks like I am next on the menu once the Russian is dead....
Message from Russia to Italy
I wish you would have admitted that you were going to Gre. Had you, I
would have taken Gal. Thinking that you were not going to be there
(whether you got there by trickery or through negotiation) made
attacking Austria straight out seem stupid given Turkey's position.
Not blaming you for my position, just saying I wish you had told me
that you were taking Gre. There was no reason that I would have
passed that information on to Austria (and if I wanted him to think
you were, I could have just told him you were doing it anyway).
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
> I wish you would have admitted that you were going to Gre. Had you, I
> would have taken Gal. Thinking that you were not going to be there
> (whether you got there by trickery or through negotiation) made
> attacking Austria straight out seem stupid given Turkey's position.
It was the kind of move that I couldnt tell anyone about. Its way too easy
to stop and I think the slowdown is what kept him from moving Tri - Alb
like he was supposed to.
> Not blaming you for my position, just saying I wish you had told me
> that you were taking Gre.
I didnt know I was, the Turk was supposed to support me in.
There was no reason that I would have
> passed that information on to Austria (and if I wanted him to think
> you were, I could have just told him you were doing it anyway).
True.
But where are we now.....
What can we do.
Message from Turkey to Italy
That went fairly well, although I would have preferred the army in Tun.
Agreed that Austria in pretty much bottled up right now. I need his help
to get Sev, but after that he's fair game.
BTW: I'm building a fleet. Since it's my first in the Med, I trust that
won't be a problem.
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
> That went fairly well, although I would have preferred the army in Tun.
>
sorry...I went for the big move, it didnt work.
> Agreed that Austria in pretty much bottled up right now. I need his help
> to get Sev, but after that he's fair game.
Well...I think he is coming for you now.
> BTW: I'm building a fleet. Since it's my first in the Med, I trust that
> won't be a problem.
It shouldnt be, but if I were you I would get a feel for whether the
Austrian is coming for you.
He has already mentioned that he plans on taking BUL this year to the
German...
Message from Austria to Italy
Hi Andy,
I'm hearing strange things and I do hope that you're
sincere about wanting peace. Anyway, I won't have
to wait too long to know what's really happening.
Regards,
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
Phillipe,
> I'm hearing strange things and I do hope that you're
> sincere about wanting peace. Anyway, I won't have
> to wait too long to know what's really happening.
Currently my options are attacking you, which I sincerely want to not do.
or
Attack Turkey, which I have to set up a bit.
France is not an option right now.....
Message from Turkey to Italy
You really think Austria is gunning for me? Interesting, I figured he'd
want a bigger piece of Russia first.
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> You really think Austria is gunning for me? Interesting, I figured he'd
> want a bigger piece of Russia first.
He hasnt even bounced in Galacia during 01'
Does that look like someone who is goign to attack Galacia anytime soon.
Message from Turkey to Italy
He and Russia negotiated the no-bounce in Gal, but I agree that
supporting Bud instead of Ser is curious.
jason
Message from Germany to all
Yup, that was the press I was on about.
Well you are at a little crossroad. As we are sure France will be an army then there is no pending threat for you. Usually when playing England its always difficult to get the right amount of armies into play. Usually you need fleets to keep pace with GER fleet build.
This is not the situation in this game. Not only would an army build make me feel more comfortable ;-) but a move nwy - bar, yor - nwyand depending what happens after that edi - nwy sets you up firm in northern russia. Usually to get 2 armies up there is quite a challenge.
But if I were England at this point I too would go for a fleet, probably in EDI but maybe for the show in London ;-)
I will be playing safe and I will be considering all neighbours as hostile in the spring.
Depending on that outcome then anything can happen.
First we have to awit the interesting builds (Italy, Russia, France).
As for me, two armies it has to be. I dont see the point at this stage for a fleet in BER to go after Sweden. If we so decide then either of us can pick it up in the spring or leave it till fall.
It will be interesting to see what the realionship is between AIF.
Speak to you after the builds
Message from Italy to Turkey
>
> He and Russia negotiated the no-bounce in Gal, but I agree that
> supporting Bud instead of Ser is curious.
What is the second biggest lie in Diplomacy.
*I wont go to Galacia*.
For 2 Turns. Noone has entered Galacia.
The Austrian is getting you sidetracked and involved with Russia, while he
sets you up for the fall in the fall.
He has demanded that I vacate Greece immediately. I told him I would see
what I could do.
The DMZs he is demanding from me would have me vacating Venice and almost
vacating Rome
He wants space to work on you, that is the only thing it can be.
Message from Italy to England
That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send it elsewhere
and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
Kill him.
And just for the record, I still dont believe that the French dont want to
attack me, I am expecting Tyr - Ven with Austrian support and a fleet in
the Western Med.
Message from England to France and Italy
Andy -
I hope you do not mind me copying Erik here:
> That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send
> it elsewhere and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
I agree. He suspects I'm working with Erik & is trying to split us.
I'm at work - will have more of a chance to write you each later.
Ben
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
I don't see an obvious way for us to cooperate directly at the moment. I
will certainly be moving north, unless AT break up. Don't get me wrong -- I
was very happy to see you take Gre. All I was saying was had I known it was
coming I would have bounced Bla, which would have given us both better
negotiating leverage with Turkey against Philippe.
The point was to get you thinking that in the future it might actually be
useful to coordinate planning, because there is still no incentive for me
to do anything that would inhibit you from successfully attacking AT.
What can I do (moves or negotiation) to help you be effective against one
or the other of them? Unless France makes a surprise move, I won't be
making any progress towards you on the board.
--- Eric
Austria: BUILD Army Budapest
Austria: BUILD Army Vienna
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Germany: BUILD Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Russia: BUILD Army St Petersburg
Turkey: BUILD Army Constantinople
Centers
Austria: 5
England: 4
France: 4
Germany: 5
Italy: 4
Russia: 5
Turkey: 4
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