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Austria: Builds 2 units
England: Builds 1 unit
France: Builds 1 unit
Germany: Builds 2 units
Italy: Builds 1 unit
Russia: Builds 1 unit
Turkey: Builds 1 unit
Message from Germany to England
Interesting to see how this develops. Anything other than an army build
spells trouble.
Message from France to England
Nice. Germany's worried now, wants to know what I'm doing. He was
expecting F Mao - Eng.
Erik
Message from England to France
Erik -
> Nice. Germany's worried now, wants to know what I'm doing. He was
> expecting F Mao - Eng.
Beautiful. I am very pleased with our position.
Tony's already complained to me - I wrote him that I didn't want him to
build an F KIE and now I don't have to worry about it. Really the big
surprise for him came from you - I am very pleased with our position now.
I will look things over & get back to you with a proposed build for me. I
will tell you right now I am thinking of F LON, with your permission, which
will permit us - through ENG - to exert force against BEL. Perhaps set as a
goal that I get BEL with that fleet, or something like that.
But I haven't given it a whole lot of thought yet & certainly have no
attachment to anything yet.
You had an excellent plan and I have a smile on my face, which is more than
I could have said after the spring moves. . .
Ben
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Interesting to see how this develops. Anything other than an
> army build spells trouble.
For me it was an easy choice - I didn't want to see an F KIE - I know you'd
promised an F BER; this way I worry less. . .
Ben
Message from England to England
I am pleased things went more or less as I'd thought. An Italian GRE is
fine as long as we are not looking at Go Fasta; I do not want to see Austria
go down hard & fast. It looks like Russian A WAR is forced. . .
I suppose Jason is scheduled to get SEV, which would be good.
Ben
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Greece was a nice pick-up for you - you get to spend another year neutrally
while you wander off for TUN. Let me know if there is some information you
would like distributed to your neighbors.
We are nicely positioned in the West, I hope; I wonder what you have in mind
for your build so as not to antagonize any of your several friendly
neighbors. I'll see for myself soon enough, I guess. I continue to need
Erik to work with me, obviously. . .
Ben
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
I will continue to be your friend in the North - do not worry about me. God
knows you have your hands full elsewhere. . .
We may be able to get you a dot or two, even, as things sort themselves out,
without you having to suffer a counterattack.
Good luck, my friend. I am pleased to see the Raiders did not lose this
weekend - hopefully they will be closer to full strength when they return on
Sunday.
Ben
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
Well I think it was a beautiful year for the Austrian people. GAL assured
in the spring with the complete collapse of Russia to come soon after.
You were brave to put Andy in GRE but I think it was a good choice, as it
permitted you to do what you needed to do against Russia.
Ben
Message from England to Turkey
Jason -
I am pleased to see things working out in the East, unfolding along the
lines you'd told me. I imagine you are to get SEV? It looks like Italy
will be in position against Austria pretty soon. . . The timing actually
makes a difference to me, so if you can, could you give me a sense of what
to expect?
Good work so far. Let's grow. ;-)
Ben
Message from Germany to England
And you promised an army build for convoying.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> And you promised an army build for convoying.
I don't much care for quibbling - after the spring I didn't think you would
either - I will say I do not concede this is the case; later on if you
insist we can parse through our earlier press & debate what exactly was
promised. But I am at work now & not so inclined.
Let us look forward and not backward. I knew I wasn't denying you a build,
I was just denying you the opportunity to build F KIE.
I am as usual all ears.
Ben
Message from Austria to England
Hi Ben,
> Well I think it was a beautiful year for the Austrian people. GAL assured
> in the spring with the complete collapse of Russia to come soon after.
>
> You were brave to put Andy in GRE but I think it was a good choice, as it
> permitted you to do what you needed to do against Russia.
In truth, maybe I was a bit naive. I was hoping that
Italy wouldn't attack Austria. Can you believe that ;-)
Anyway, now that I see that Tony can't build a fleet in
Kiel, I would like to congratulate you for your moves,
especially with France going for Bur & Tyr. Hopefully,
France won't stay in Tyrolia too long.
Philippe
Message from England to Austria
Philippe -
> In truth, maybe I was a bit naive. I was hoping that
> Italy wouldn't attack Austria. Can you believe that ;-)
So much in Dip is a gamble - I'm not saying he will or won't attack you. I
think you made a choice & I am hoping for both our sakes that it will pay
off. But it was a tough choice, and for your decision, I applaud you. We
will know more when Italy builds; I will be surprised if he builds anything
other than F NAP, which will be pretty neutral and keep his options open.
And if that's what he does, he won't be in a good position to attack you
right away.
> Anyway, now that I see that Tony can't build a fleet in
> Kiel, I would like to congratulate you for your moves,
> especially with France going for Bur & Tyr. Hopefully,
> France won't stay in Tyrolia too long.
I think it is safe to say the French A TYR is more concerned with the
affairs of the West than affairs of the East. . .
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> Andy -
> Greece was a nice pick-up for you - you get to spend another year neutrally
> while you wander off for TUN. Let me know if there is some information you
> would like distributed to your neighbors.
>
I wasnt that nuetral, I attacked Trieste. And the Austrian is pissed.
> We are nicely positioned in the West, I hope; I wonder what you have in mind
> for your build so as not to antagonize any of your several friendly
> neighbors. I'll see for myself soon enough, I guess. I continue to need
> Erik to work with me, obviously. . .
Well...Eriks move to the South coast of Spain was a surprise, but we shall
see.
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> I wasnt that nuetral, I attacked Trieste. And the
> Austrian is pissed.
Ah. I had thought you expected it to bounce - I guess you did - but it
didn't seem like a big deal. This is what I was talking about - if you want
me to talk to him, recommend he try to work with you or whatever - let me
know.
> Well...Eriks move to the South coast of Spain was a
> surprise, but we shall see.
In the context of his other moves - I don't think you need to be too
worried. You make him nervous but as you can see he has other fish to fry
right now.
Ben
Message from Germany to England
Well I had mentioned to France that I was expecting a bounce in HOL, it
seemned the most logical. In hindsight I am glad I didnt force the HOL move.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Well I had mentioned to France that I was expecting a bounce in HOL, it
> seemned the most logical. In hindsight I am glad I didnt force the HOL
move.
Well I am glad to hear it. Under the circumstances I think you would
likely have done the same.
Now what?
Ben
Message from England to France
Erik -
I have put in F LON for my build, as I described earlier. But I also set
wait & will understand perfectly well if you would like me to do something
else; just let me know.
Again, my thinking with F LON is ENG - BEL. Also in the spring I order the
convoy to HOL again, forcing the German defenses to be spread too thin.
Let me know your thoughts.
Ben
Message from Turkey to England
Yep, heading for Sev. It'll probably take 2 seasons, though. Italy's
gearing up for anti-Austria as you say. I've got to try to keep everyone
in balance for now.
Right now, I don't know exactly what to expect, but I want Sev before
Italy goes after Austria. Not sure if that will happen.
jason
Message from Germany to England
> Now what?>
Good question, Russia is in trouble. France gets just one build. Not sure of my builds yet. France has approached me but I am waiting to gere some more. Austria claims Italy attacked him.
Not much else happening, what lines of thought were you having.
Message from Germany to England
Well Ben things are looking good for England. I am not to bad off.
I could offer you SWE for friendship to start with. As France only gets one build he is not to much of a worry for me. He has also indicated that he can still move anywhere.
His one build will no doubt be in PAR. If need be I could then push BEL - PIC. Two army builds would give me some bargaining power with him.
We could even still get the EGF on the road. He can still head south, you can still head north and I can still head east.
I will just be a little cautious with France as he was ment to move on the ENG ;-) and grab SPA with the army.
Me and you knew what would happen around BEL/HOL. If france would have done what we discussed then that would have left me and you in an interesting position. Still its all part of the game so its nothing personal against England ;-)
Now you are looking pretty good and GE or EFG can still hammer out all kind of deals.
Speak soon.
Message from England to Turkey
Jason -
> Yep, heading for Sev. It'll probably take 2 seasons, though. Italy's
> gearing up for anti-Austria as you say. I've got to try to
> keep everyone in balance for now.
Yes, I see what you mean. A crippled Austria is not much good to you. . .
> Right now, I don't know exactly what to expect, but I want Sev before
> Italy goes after Austria. Not sure if that will happen.
I think you thoughts are pointed in the right direction. Fortunately for
you Italy cannot build in VEN and France is in Tyrolia. Perhaps it will
help if you ask France to work against *Germany* & stay neutral between A
and I. Frankly I suspect it's what he's thinking anyway, but there's no
harm in asking.
Ben
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> > Now what?>
>
> Good question, Russia is in trouble. France gets just one
> build. Not sure of my builds yet. France has approached me
> but I am waiting to gere some more. Austria claims Italy attacked him.
This is interesting to me. The capture of GRE could not have been a
surprise and VEN - TRI was hardly a massive attack. I guess there probably
is really an A/I conflict on the rise, but its beginning is pretty tepid.
> Not much else happening, what lines of thought were you having.
I am trying to stay flexible. I probably will build a fleet but I hardly
agree with you that it's a bad sign for GE relations.
Ben
Message from France to England
Ben:
Well, frankly, I *am* a little uncomfortable with the thought of F Eng,
but at the same time, I can see its tactical benefits. I suppose an army
in London, while the most re-assuring thing for me from a long-term safety
perspective, just wouldn't do much good against Germany.
So, I suppose F Lon is your best build. We can always discuss its
disposition, and I can bring F Spa up to Mao as a comfort measure to cover
Brest. As for me, A Par seems the obvious choice.
We've got a lot of guessing going on. Assuming that Austria doesn't boot
me out of Tyrolia (which may be a big assumption, if he is indeed friendly
with Germany), I can either grab for Munich or try to head for Ruhr and
move Par - Bur. You can use Nth to tap Bel or try to convoy to Hol.
I'm thinking this for the spring:
A Bur - Ruhr (will probably bounce but keep Ruhr clear)
A Par - Pic
A Tyr - Mun (to kill any support Munich might be giving for, say, Kiel -
Ruhr)
You should order:
F Nwy - Ska (if you're comfortable with Russia, but given his southern
mess, he can't be looking to irk you right now)
F Nth - Hel
F Lon - Nth
I think this gives us maximum attack coverage while keeping Eng clear and
free of potential worry on either side.
If Germany moves Kiel - Hol, he leaves Kiel open, and you've got F Hel
there to threaten it. If he leaves Kiel in place, you've got a convoy op
in place with support from Hel OR from Pic (if you convoy to Bel). F Ska
is there to threaten / tap Den. Tyrolia probably won't make it to Munich
and Burgundy won't make it to Ruhr, but as long as they're there, Mun and
Ber are tied up in defense.
Thoughts?
Erik
Message from Germany to England
>>I probably will build a fleet but I hardly agree with you that it's a bad
sign for GE relations.>>
Good to hear. I also sent you a more lenghtly press. Didi it ever arrive?
maybe its still on its way?
Message from England to France
Erik -
> Well, frankly, I *am* a little uncomfortable with the thought
> of F Eng,
> but at the same time, I can see its tactical benefits. I
> suppose an army
> in London, while the most re-assuring thing for me from a
> long-term safety
> perspective, just wouldn't do much good against Germany.
I'm inclined to agree - A LON wouldn't do either of us much good.
> So, I suppose F Lon is your best build. We can always discuss its
> disposition, and I can bring F Spa up to Mao as a comfort
> measure to cover
> Brest. As for me, A Par seems the obvious choice.
I have no problem with SPA - MAO, if you're comfortable with Andy. We can
discuss that more in the spring.
> We've got a lot of guessing going on. Assuming that Austria
> doesn't boot
> me out of Tyrolia (which may be a big assumption, if he is
> indeed friendly
> with Germany), I can either grab for Munich or try to head
> for Ruhr and
> move Par - Bur. You can use Nth to tap Bel or try to convoy to Hol.
Tapping BEL could make a big difference. Tony is no doubt considering both
BEL s MUN - BUR, which would make it a breeze for him to recapture MUN in
the fall if TYR - MUN succeeds, and BEL s KIE (or MUN) - RUH.
> I'm thinking this for the spring:
>
> A Bur - Ruhr (will probably bounce but keep Ruhr clear)
> A Par - Pic
> A Tyr - Mun (to kill any support Munich might be giving for,
> say, Kiel -
> Ruhr)
I think these moves should do the trick.
> You should order:
>
> F Nwy - Ska (if you're comfortable with Russia, but given his southern
> mess, he can't be looking to irk you right now)
> F Nth - Hel
> F Lon - Nth
>
> I think this gives us maximum attack coverage while keeping
> Eng clear and free of potential worry on either side.
Yes but the success of your moves depends to a large part on the success of
NTH - HEL. If it fails then LON is stuck in LON and we make no headway in
'02. So what do you think of YOR - NTH - BEL and LON - ENG. I know you are
not comfortable with me in ENG but it gets the most out of all our units.
Here is your analysis below; consider what happens if I bounce in HEL, which
is not at all unlikely:
> If Germany moves Kiel - Hol, he leaves Kiel open, and you've got F Hel
> there to threaten it. If he leaves Kiel in place, you've got
> a convoy op
> in place with support from Hel OR from Pic (if you convoy to
> Bel). F Ska
> is there to threaten / tap Den. Tyrolia probably won't make
> it to Munich
> and Burgundy won't make it to Ruhr, but as long as they're
> there, Mun and
> Ber are tied up in defense.
>
> Thoughts?
You have 'em. We have plenty of time - I'm in no rush & have no great
attachment to anything yet.
Ben
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> >>I probably will build a fleet but I hardly agree with you
> that it's a bad
> sign for GE relations.>>
>
> Good to hear. I also sent you a more lenghtly press. Didi it
> ever arrive?
> maybe its still on its way?
I'm sure I did get it - I had this feeling I'd overlooked one from you - but
I'm at work. If it's convenient could you resend it? Otherwise I'll dig it
up this evening (*my* time) & respond then.
Ben
Message from Germany to England
I am at home at the moment, I think I sent it from work via webmail.
Unfortunately sent mail is not kept.
I cant resend if. If you cant find it then we will just have to re negotiate
;-)
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> I am at home at the moment, I think I sent it from work via webmail.
> Unfortunately sent mail is not kept.
> I cant resend if. If you cant find it then we will just have
> to re negotiate
> ;-)
I thought we are *always* renegotiating. ;-)
Anyway I think I have it at home.
Ben
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
Congratulations on making it to the VGFP semi-finals, an achievement in itself.
Ben
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
I think this is the press you mentioned. . .
> Well Ben things are looking good for England. I am not to bad off.
> I could offer you SWE for friendship to start with. As France only gets
> one build he is not to much of a worry for me. He has also indicated
> that he can still move anywhere.
Yes, we are still flexible.
> His one build will no doubt be in PAR. If need be I could then push BEL -
> PIC. Two army builds would give me some bargaining power with him.
> We could even still get the EGF on the road. He can still head south,
> you can still head north and I can still head east.
> I will just be a little cautious with France as he was ment to move on
the ENG ;-)
> and grab SPA with the army.
Yes. It's too bad he didn't go with *that* plan. ;o)
> Me and you knew what would happen around BEL/HOL. If france
> would have done what we discussed then that would have left me
> and you in an interesting position. Still its all part of the game so its
> nothing personal against England ;-)
If you were to tell me you took it personally, I would know for sure you
are a liar. :-)
> Now you are looking pretty good and GE or EFG can still hammer
> out all kind of deals.
> Speak soon.
Most flexible might be F LON. I really don't know why I'd build an army .
I'll be curious to see what some of the other powers - particularly Italy -
build & will take it from there.
What do you think?
Ben
Message from Turkey to England
Good to hear from you.
Have you heard anything about Austria's intentions? Italy claims he's
about to stab me, so I'm hoping for some confirmation either way.
jason
Message from Germany to all
Yup, that was the press I was on about.
Well you are at a little crossroad. As we are sure France will be an army then there is no pending threat for you. Usually when playing England its always difficult to get the right amount of armies into play. Usually you need fleets to keep pace with GER fleet build.
This is not the situation in this game. Not only would an army build make me feel more comfortable ;-) but a move nwy - bar, yor - nwyand depending what happens after that edi - nwy sets you up firm in northern russia. Usually to get 2 armies up there is quite a challenge.
But if I were England at this point I too would go for a fleet, probably in EDI but maybe for the show in London ;-)
I will be playing safe and I will be considering all neighbours as hostile in the spring.
Depending on that outcome then anything can happen.
First we have to awit the interesting builds (Italy, Russia, France).
As for me, two armies it has to be. I dont see the point at this stage for a fleet in BER to go after Sweden. If we so decide then either of us can pick it up in the spring or leave it till fall.
It will be interesting to see what the realionship is between AIF.
Speak to you after the builds
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Subject: USTX:c2 - F1901B Broadcast from G
I don't see how it changes anything. But did you mean to broadcast this?
I'll respond later.
Ben
Message from England to Turkey
Jason -
> Have you heard anything about Austria's intentions? Italy claims he's
> about to stab me, so I'm hoping for some confirmation either way.
I've heard nothing. I would be surprised if he did, but he's surprised me
already this game. Does he really want to have irritated all three of his
closest neighbors?
I'll fish around & get back to you.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send it elsewhere
and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
Kill him.
And just for the record, I still dont believe that the French dont want to
attack me, I am expecting Tyr - Ven with Austrian support and a fleet in
the Western Med.
Message from England to France and Italy
Andy -
I hope you do not mind me copying Erik here:
> That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send
> it elsewhere and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
I agree. He suspects I'm working with Erik & is trying to split us.
I'm at work - will have more of a chance to write you each later.
Ben
Message from Russia to England
Ben,
I don't have much time but really wanted to get a message out to you.
(Well, actually I don't want to send this, but I feel compelled to).
Late yesterday Germany's press got much more desperate. At this point, he
is threatening to attack me directly (via Pru or Sil) if I build in War
instead of in StP. On the flip side, if I build in StP, he offers to help
me against AT (in addition to offering you support to Swe). His messages
have enough of a ring of truth that I believe that he is as desperate for
an ally in the north as I am in the south. Unfortunately I didn't have time
to check in with you about this yesterday (recall that Mon and Tues nights
I'm usually unavailable). While I tend to doubt the threat, I am hoping
that he would actually follow through with the support he's offered.
The result is that I would like to consider putting in an order to build A
StP (NOT F StP). I feel like a total shit raising this idea, but hopefully
you will take this message combined with my actually desperate situation as
evidence of my sincerity when I say I'm NOT interested in RG vs. E. Also,
if you check the timestamp on this you'll see it's earlier than any other
message I've sent you -- I got up early to allow me to send it and give you
a chance to respond.
The only purpose of A StP is to let Germany think I am on his side, which
may buy me some time against AT. I have two potential plans for A StP
should I build it, depending on how much risk you are willing to take. The
first is to just move StP-Lvn and set up a defense. This would be best for
you, but if Germany follows through on his "promised" to move a unit to
help me support War in return for A StP, he'd still be able to hurt me,
which I'm afraid he'll do in a suicide mode.
The second possibility is what I'd prefer, but a real risk for you. I could
take Germany's offer to cut support from Nth and evict you from Nwy. If you
move Nth-Hel and retreat to Ska, you could then take Swe and Nth in Fall
which sets you up for and attack on Den in 03. I would use Nwy to support
you to Swe, while moving StP-Lvn a season later. If France gets a
sufficiently advanced position (so he can tap Kie) you can actually attack
Den directly, and maybe I can get to hold Swe and get a build to help me in
the south.
The ONLY reason I am asking you to consider this is that I really need an
ally in the south that can help me break up AT. The real point is to get
Germany to work with me long enough to try to shake up the southern situation.
What's in it for you? Well, it's a lot riskier than me staying out of the
way, but the advantage is that if Germany really does assume that you are
under control, he may send units my way to help me. That would make your
attack on him in the Fall a complete surprise, and more effective. Is it
worth the risk? I don't know, it's hard for me to tell from my
Russia-centric viewpoint whether or not it's a stupid thing to even ask
this, but I can't see what else I can do. I will try to get AT fighting,
but it's going to take a season or two for anything to come to fruition.
I doubt that you are going to like this message, and it's hard for me to
tell from my Russia-centric viewpoint whether or not it's a stupid thing to
even ask. As I said, at a minimum, I can move StP-Lvn and take up a
defensive position. If I am being totally crazy, please point out the
errors of my ways, which I'm sure are legion.
I'm going to repeat that I absolutely hate that I feel driven to this
desperate move, but I really am desperate at this point. Again, I hope that
giving you a heads up -- which gives you a chance to change your builds if
you *really* don't like this message -- is evidence to my sincerity. I
should have a chance to see any response you send before the deadline hits.
--- Eric
P.S. I appreciate all the comments you made in the last several messages,
though I haven't had a chance to respond. I particularly appreciated your
comments about the Raiders not losing over the weekend. I hope we can keep
up these conversations even if this message leads you to decide you need to
side with Germany against me; they've been the most enjoyable element of
this game for me so far.
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> I don't have much time but really wanted to get a message out to you.
> (Well, actually I don't want to send this, but I feel compelled to).
You did the right thing.
> Late yesterday Germany's press got much more desperate. At
> this point, he
> is threatening to attack me directly (via Pru or Sil) if I
> build in War
> instead of in StP. On the flip side, if I build in StP, he
> offers to help
> me against AT (in addition to offering you support to Swe).
> His messages
> have enough of a ring of truth that I believe that he is as
> desperate for
> an ally in the north as I am in the south. Unfortunately I
> didn't have time
> to check in with you about this yesterday (recall that Mon
> and Tues nights
> I'm usually unavailable). While I tend to doubt the threat, I
> am hoping
> that he would actually follow through with the support he's offered.
The chances of him following through with assistance to you are zero. He is desperate *to you* because he knows he may be in trouble from me. If you build in STP you will be destroyed by AT and he will never have to repay his debt to you. He is not worried about promises to you - particularly this one. Why would he keep his end of the bargain? Once you've done yours, GAL is lost and everything else soon after.
> The result is that I would like to consider putting in an
> order to build A
> StP (NOT F StP). I feel like a total shit raising this idea,
> but hopefully
> you will take this message combined with my actually
> desperate situation as
> evidence of my sincerity when I say I'm NOT interested in RG
> vs. E. Also,
> if you check the timestamp on this you'll see it's earlier
> than any other
> message I've sent you -- I got up early to allow me to send
> it and give you a chance to respond.
I believe you but I think you are getting set up.
> The only purpose of A StP is to let Germany think I am on his
> side, which
> may buy me some time against AT. I have two potential plans for A StP
> should I build it, depending on how much risk you are willing
> to take. The
> first is to just move StP-Lvn and set up a defense. This
> would be best for
> you, but if Germany follows through on his "promised" to move
> a unit to
> help me support War in return for A StP, he'd still be able
> to hurt me,
> which I'm afraid he'll do in a suicide mode.
Tony is much too slick to go into suicide mode. If you build a WAR, which I think is a *must*, the worst-case scenario for him is perfectly playable. You do not have to sell your soul to work with him - why would he suicide on account of A WAR?
> The second possibility is what I'd prefer, but a real risk
> for you. I could
> take Germany's offer to cut support from Nth and evict you
> from Nwy. If you
> move Nth-Hel and retreat to Ska, you could then take Swe and
> Nth in Fall
> which sets you up for and attack on Den in 03. I would use
> Nwy to support
> you to Swe, while moving StP-Lvn a season later. If France gets a
> sufficiently advanced position (so he can tap Kie) you can
> actually attack
> Den directly, and maybe I can get to hold Swe and get a build
> to help me in the south.
Let's table this discussion - I think it's premature.
> The ONLY reason I am asking you to consider this is that I
> really need an
> ally in the south that can help me break up AT. The real
> point is to get
> Germany to work with me long enough to try to shake up the
> southern situation.
He won't help you. If you build in STP he will never have to fear your retribution.
> What's in it for you? Well, it's a lot riskier than me
> staying out of the
> way, but the advantage is that if Germany really does assume
> that you are
> under control, he may send units my way to help me. That
> would make your
> attack on him in the Fall a complete surprise, and more
> effective. Is it
> worth the risk? I don't know, it's hard for me to tell from my
> Russia-centric viewpoint whether or not it's a stupid thing
> to even ask
> this, but I can't see what else I can do. I will try to get
> AT fighting,
> but it's going to take a season or two for anything to come
> to fruition.
I think it's bad for you. How will he help you defend WAR and SEV?
> I doubt that you are going to like this message, and it's
> hard for me to
> tell from my Russia-centric viewpoint whether or not it's a
> stupid thing to
> even ask. As I said, at a minimum, I can move StP-Lvn and take up a
> defensive position. If I am being totally crazy, please point out the
> errors of my ways, which I'm sure are legion.
I tried to point out what I see as the weaknesses. Tony says lots and he has a way with his tone - try to look at it from his point of view, too. Do you really think he'll suicide if you build in WAR? He didn't get this good by playing that badly. . .
> I'm going to repeat that I absolutely hate that I feel driven to this
> desperate move, but I really am desperate at this point.
> Again, I hope that
> giving you a heads up -- which gives you a chance to change
> your builds if
> you *really* don't like this message -- is evidence to my sincerity. I
> should have a chance to see any response you send before the
> deadline hits.
I hope you have time to reconsider. . .
Ben
Message from Russia to England
Sadly, as of now (about 20 minutes to 10:00AM my time) I haven't seen
anything from you, and am about to leave for three+ hours of
meetings. I'll expect to hear from you on my return whether the build
of A StP is simply a major problem for ER relations or spells the end
of them completely.
Yours,
--- Eric
Austria: BUILD Army Budapest
Austria: BUILD Army Vienna
England: BUILD Fleet London
France: BUILD Army Paris
Germany: BUILD Army Berlin
Germany: BUILD Army Munich
Italy: BUILD Fleet Naples
Russia: BUILD Army St Petersburg
Turkey: BUILD Army Constantinople
Centers
Austria: 5
England: 4
France: 4
Germany: 5
Italy: 4
Russia: 5
Turkey: 4
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