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France: Army Belgium can retreat to Picardy
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
Very interesting results. I had expected that Ben would be down one. Oh
well. I told Erik that I wasn't going to give up Mun, so I thought he'd
support Bel. Oh well.
So how would you like to go forward. Are you still willing to push west?
Hol is probably yours -- I think even Erik would help you pull that off.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Eric, yes I am still willing to move west.
It's the first time in my diplomacy carreer that I have played this roll and
I am enjoying it :-)
I will attack HOL from RUH supported by KIE. If MUN can support KIE then at
least I dont risk losing KIE.
On the other hand the following spring move would be better. PIC - BEL
supported by RUH & BUR. MUN S KIE.
This ensures thta BEL falls definitely. I think if you are on good terms
with Erik that you should set up a 3 way press mentioning the option. If he
and I hit BEL/HOL then only one may fall as NTH can support BEL.
Was the turk meant to take RUM?
Tony
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
Can we talk now?
You have survived a harrowing opening - I wonder whether it is in the best
interest of the German people to have a strong Russian presence in the
North.
Ben
Message from Germany to England
Hi Ben, I have been willing to talk the last two years just to prevent that
which you are now stating, the strong Russian presence in the north. As you
can see I had to become a Russian puppet to remain alive.
If only you would have moved north when I requested/suggested it. As it
stands I could maybe pick up Denamrk with your support but at the same time
I would lose BER. At the moment the Russian is offering to keep me on two.
He is also now trying to get FG workingink against you in BEL/HOL. Something
no doubt France will be interested in.
I't is as I predicted, get EF fighting and mop up behind them. ANy gain he
makes in the north only makes his solo easier.
I was a little surprised about RUM and have asked what happened there.
Looking at the moves Russia offered it to Turkey. I just want to see what
Russia has to say. He still gets two builds so he no doubt offered Turkey
RUM to keep him on his side.
The best offer I can see you offering me which would be temtpting is nth -
ska, hol - nth, hel s hol - nth.
But that would cost you HOL/BEL something I am sure you dont want.
The only other offer is kie - ber, ruh - kie supported by hel/hol.
I am afraid that kie - ber would bounce, so would therefor the rest.
We will no doubt see a fleet in STP and an army in MOS.
He can now secure the north. His only weak spot is DEN.
The only option i see is you retreating from MAO and making up with Erik.
The three of us could take on Russia but maybe it is to late.
Let me know your thoughts.
Message from Germany to France
Why attack MUN and not defend BEL? I said I couldnt afford to support you
into MUN.
I realised that BEL could be cut from the ENG and that HEL/NTH were enough
to take HOL even with my support. Thats why attacking KIE was the best way
to ensure Ben lost KIE. He would now be one down had you supported BEL. As
you were attacking MUN thus cutting Russia's support of BER - KIE I had no
choice but to support BER - KIE.
Ben is now offering peace, Eric is asking that you and I go for BEL. We use
BUR/RUH to support PIC - BEL.
Which way do you want to go. Let me know.
Message from England to Germany
[sending a second time - you may get this twice]
Tony -
> Hi Ben, I have been willing to talk the last two years just
> to prevent that
> which you are now stating, the strong Russian presence in the
> north. As you
> can see I had to become a Russian puppet to remain alive.
I understand completely. You will see from the press archive it is my fault you and I could not work together better.
> If only you would have moved north when I requested/suggested
> it. As it
> stands I could maybe pick up Denamrk with your support but at
> the same time
> I would lose BER. At the moment the Russian is offering to
> keep me on two.
I had planned on offering you DEN. In time I can push you further north. I would like to see Erik put you in MUN, in fact, I recommended he offer it to you early last season, and shortly afterward I asked Andy if *he* would support you into MUN. I do not want to see you so weak.
> He is also now trying to get FG workingink against you in
> BEL/HOL. Something no doubt France will be interested in.
Urk. But what is in it for you, other than elimination.
> I't is as I predicted, get EF fighting and mop up behind
> them. ANy gain he
> makes in the north only makes his solo easier.
Perhaps. There is tension between RT, and if IT relations continue to improve there will be a problem for Russia in the south.
> I was a little surprised about RUM and have asked what happened there.
> Looking at the moves Russia offered it to Turkey. I just want
> to see what
> Russia has to say. He still gets two builds so he no doubt
> offered Turkey RUM to keep him on his side.
Yes, but I was surprised (a) Eric kept the fleet, and (b) Jason captured with an army. Interesting, interesting.
> The best offer I can see you offering me which would be
> temtpting is nth -
> ska, hol - nth, hel s hol - nth.
> But that would cost you HOL/BEL something I am sure you dont want.
>
> The only other offer is kie - ber, ruh - kie supported by hel/hol.
> I am afraid that kie - ber would bounce, so would therefor the rest.
> We will no doubt see a fleet in STP and an army in MOS.
> He can now secure the north. His only weak spot is DEN.
>
> The only option i see is you retreating from MAO and making
> up with Erik.
Yes, I was thinking about ways to do this. Encouragement from you would be good for both of us.
> The three of us could take on Russia but maybe it is to late.
> Let me know your thoughts.
I do not think it is too late but I will have to get a clean disengagement from France. Eric is a real charmer and I think the incorrect MAO - IRI and my incorrect overreaction were unduly influenced.
I will offer you support to KIE; support to DEN. Why would you choose to be eliminated, when you can play on? For some people, one game more or less might be a major burden, but I suspect that is not the case for you. . . ;o)
Ben
Message from England to all
Happy holidays to all, except for Eric, who is evil and worships Satan.
Ben
Message from Italy to all
> Happy holidays to all, except for Eric, who is evil and worships Satan.
>
Or as my tshirt say....smokes crack and worships Satan...
All my best to each of you and yours.....yes...even you brain picking
commentators....Have a great holiday
Andy
Message from Germany to all
Vrolijk Kerst en een Gelukkig Nieuw Jaar............. <=== Written in
Satanik so that Eric can understand
Merry Christmas and a Happy new year to you and your families, players and
spectators and not to forget the Mighty GM Greg
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Vrolijk Kerst en een Gelukkig Nieuw Jaar............. <=== Written in
> Satanik so that Eric can understand
If this is indeed satanic then I think I understand *you* alittle better, my
Dutch friend.
;o)
If I fall to Russia then you will be already gone, and the game will be
over. Tell me it's my fault, I know it's my fault, it does not mean we give
up, does it?
Ben
Message from Germany to England
I never give up, but I have to wait for the right moment. Basically there is
nothing we can do if France doesnt join in.
Try and sway him. I have only lied since day one to him ;-)
Message from France to all
Happy holidays to all. Except for Ben, who's clearly a slanderous,
treacherous toad, what with his accusations of Satanism and all.
And for the commentators, I swear I will be more enlightening in the new
year.
Erik
France: Army Belgium → Picardy
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