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Message from Germany to England
Remind me, what did I broadcast? was it maybe a broadcast to the observers
(where i forgot the TO G)????
I cant check my mail as it was sent via webmail. Going by my past experience
in the other game I may once again have done a booby ;-)
Let me know what I broadcasted. If I totally messed up then yes I was ment
to broadcast it.
Message from Germany to Russia
Due to time delay or other circumstances I have now received the BUILDS just
after I sent my press to you.
Thank you for nog changing your mind.
You stateed you wernt to pleased when I opened up the 3way press wit AIR, I
respect that and it wont happen again.
As for the situation on the board I would like to say the following.
Please dont see it as anything else but a picture I had in mind to limit
damage control for both of us and at the same time comes through on promises
made.
I picture me cutting support from NTH and you supporting SWE - NWY from STP.
This nets you NWY and prevents any convoy to NWY. If he forsees this and
move NTH - NWG and moves or retreats NWY to BAR then I bounce with his
potential fleet move to NTH. This means that he only has two units on NWY
and cant retake it in the fall. This is your guranteed BUILD. Let me know if
you see any way he can retake it vene if he knew that you were going to
capture it. I think we have NWY in the bag.
As for the south I pictured;
all units support SEV, SEV itsself supports bul - rum just for fun and
confusion.
At worst they get one unit into GAL (which you cant prevent anyway).
In the fall you let SEV for what it is and selfbounce in WAR to keep GAL out
and you build an army there.
Any contingency plan should include you trying to get Turkey to turn on
Austria and offer him support into RUM. Thats why you support it anyway.
What else does SEV have to do.
With the build in WAR you have three units to hold UKR, they can only get
three units on it (GAL, RUM, SEV) unless Austria makes it to SIL. Something
I will prevent. Thats where my support comes in.
I have a good feeling about this. I hear that AI are not fully on one line,
take that with a pinch of salt.
How are negotiations going with AT or are you not really negotiating?
All the above are just thoughts, let me know what you are thinking about in
terms of moves and what you think of my suggestions. The main difference i
see should you have built in WAR is that it would have been a guessing game.
Support SEV with 3 and let them into GAL or force two on GAL and hope they
dont use 3 to force GAL
I think the net result in cooporating in this way with me ensures no matter
what happens WAR is safe and you get a build to compensate for SEV. And you
have an ally in Germany.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Message from Germany to England and France
OK, where do we go from here?
I am a little worried about animosity from EF towards me.
My gut feeling says beware of EF, something I am sure you can understand.
My situation isnt to bad and we should be able to diplome our way forward.
Ideas?
Message from Master to all
Players,
Please keep in mind that if you'd like to share your plans, strategy
and whatnot with the commentators, you can do that by sending press to
yourself. That way the commentators will see your comments, but other
players will not. If you send "press to o", anyone can see your
comments by requesting a history of the game. If you send "press to
m", I will see your comments but the commentators will not.
You are not required to share information with the commentators, but
you are encouraged to do so.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
This was the broadcast:
Yup, that was the press I was on about.
Well you are at a little crossroad. As we are sure France will be an army
then there is no pending threat for you. Usually when playing England its
always difficult to get the right amount of armies into play. Usually you
need fleets to keep pace with GER fleet build.
This is not the situation in this game. Not only would an army build make me
feel more comfortable ;-) but a move nwy - bar, yor - nwyand depending what
happens after that edi - nwy sets you up firm in northern russia. Usually to
get 2 armies up there is quite a challenge.
But if I were England at this point I too would go for a fleet, probably in
EDI but maybe for the show in London ;-)
I will be playing safe and I will be considering all neighbours as hostile
in the spring.
Depending on that outcome then anything can happen.
First we have to awit the interesting builds (Italy, Russia, France).
As for me, two armies it has to be. I dont see the point at this stage for a
fleet in BER to go after Sweden. If we so decide then either of us can pick
it up in the spring or leave it till fall.
It will be interesting to see what the realionship is between AIF.
Speak to you after the builds
Message from Germany to Austria
> I'm confuse by the general situation and your recent broadcast.
Would you be so kind to help me understand what's happening?>
Good to hear that Philippe ;-) Thats what the game is all about.
As regards the general situation, I am usually the last one to find out what
is happening.
France is a little out of place. Italy is worried he will be the target
after Russia falls.
You and Turkey seem to be allied for now.
England and I are not at war, neither are France and I.
Thats how I see the situation at the moment.
Message from Germany to England
Well Ben I an not sure what happened there. I actually only received that
press this afternoon when I was in work.
It was actually inbedded in a press from the GM, I couldnt make heads or
tails of it.
I can only assume that somewhere along the line I or my webmail account
messed up.
Message from Austria to Germany
> As regards the general situation, I am usually the last one to find out what
> is happening.
> France is a little out of place. Italy is worried he will be the target
> after Russia falls.
> You and Turkey seem to be allied for now.
> England and I are not at war, neither are France and I.
> Thats how I see the situation at the moment.
I got a good one for you. After you try to use France against
Andy, I'm now getting warning that you are trying to do the
same to me.
I find this hard to believe since we have much to offer the
other, but I thought you should know that this is going around.
Philippe
Message from Germany to Austria
Great, at this rate I dont need to hold any negotiations ;-)
France obviously has no quarrel with Italy. Maybe somewhere my name got
crossed with that of Andy.
Message from Germany to Russia
I dont trust the judge to must right now, did you receive my press?
Message from Germany to France
A little quiet on your side, should I be worried?.
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
Sorry, I did get your press and thought I responded. I've been having a few
judge oddities myself, but I think it might be my ISP. I have gotten a few
duplicates from you as well.
In any case, I appreciated your advice around AT. I have been so focused on
trying to stabilize the south that I haven't spared much attention in the
north. Bad thing I know.
Up here, things look pretty straightforward. I'm planning to deal with
England's Nwy fleet if you are going to come through on cutting support for
it. I'm not sure at this point that I need your help in the south. Things
there are looking a little better at the moment. I'll get back to you if I
need assistance, though I always appreciate any tips you want to provide or
anything you can tell me about A or T!
My build has not surprisingly caused a lot of press to come in from
England. I have not heard from France in a while. His moves are clearly
anti-G, but is he saying much to you at this point?
--- Eric
Message from Germany to England
Am I to be worried about a nth - hel, nth - ska, nth - hol, yor - hol move?
or are you looking at lon - eng?
Neither you nor France are talking much to me which has me a little worried.
Message from Germany to Russia
Yes the Judge/ISP does seem to be having fun with our press.
I will ofcouse cut support from NTH. As stated I consider us allies.
My press to England stating he should go for you with my support was to set
him up for your build in STP and his build in LOD. This should have the
frenchman a little worried. I couldnt say to him that I was working with you
to take NWY off him so I ofcourse had to decieve him. I have to break the EF
alliance and you were therfore my obvious ally.
Together we can ensure your northern scene is safe.
Yes France does look anti german (thats because I am the cause that he
looked a little out of place in PIE after the spring move).
EFG were meant to go for the tripple alliance, I was ment to open to
PRU/SIL, France was menat to go after Italy and England was ment to go for
BAR and you. As you saw in s1901 I backed out of the tripple alliance. This
no doubt upset France and to a little less extent England. That I continued
to stick with you has hopefully proven that I wish to be your ally. NWY is
yours this spring. I will go for defecne this fall against an EF attack. I
should be able to at least stay on the same number of SC's that I have now.
I may now even be able to convince ENgland to go after france with me, at
least for the spring. If I am working with england then sweden is lost
anyway and he could convoy to NWY to bounce you. Hang on in there for the
spring and you will see that you get NWY. I will be ordering den - nth and
not den s nwy - swe.
Hopefully this will gain your full friendship, you can concentrate in the
south and we can jointly keep an eye in the north.
If all goes well I will be heading for france. He hasnt spoken to me since
the fall move, I have sent him press twice already but heared nothing in
reply. I will keep out of SIL until you ask that I go there then just as you
request.
The good news is Austria hasnt sent me any press on cooporation, if he does
I will let you know..
Turkey hasnt spoken since the opening. I have no Idea what the AI
relationship is nor the FI relationship.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
I am considering LON - ENG but I do not know what I'll be doing. I don't
hink I've heard from Erik in a couple of days, but I'd have to check.
Hopefully later I'll have a few moments for Dip - I'm at work now & don't
have the time.
Ben
Message from France to all
Players:
I just moved, and Verizon messed up my DSL move order (big surprise), so
I'm without reliable internet access outside of work for the next two
weeks. I will be offline more or less all weekend this weekend and will
get back to everyone Monday morning (EST).
Erik
Message from Master to all
Players,
I'm extending the deadline due to lack of internet access by one of
your brethren.
Greg, GM
C2
p.s. Boo!
Message from Austria to all
Hi,
I would also like everyone to know that I'm leaving for
the week-end in a few hours and that I will reply to
messages when I get back,
Take care,
Philippe
Message from England to all
Greetings all.
I have been swamped at work & at home these last few days. If any of you
feels I owe you a press, or I haven't responded to something, please let me
know.
Apologies all around.
Ben
Message from Germany to England
Well I think I am stil awaiting a proposal.
Message from Germany to Russia
OK are we on? I will cut support from NTH. You may consider taking NWY from
STP anyway. Else he may just retreat to SKA and threaten SWE. By taking it
from STP supported by SWE you avoid this. Just a thought. WAR will stil be
safe.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Well I think I am stil awaiting a proposal.
Hmm. My tactical skill is not so great. Would you consider BEL - PIC, in
conjunction with LON - ENG and YOR - NTH - BEL? Or perhaps YOR - LON & look
around in the fall? I would like a second dot but there's no need to pick
it in the spring. . .
Ben
Message from Germany to England
> Hmm. My tactical skill is not so great. Would you consider BEL - PIC, in
> conjunction with LON - ENG and YOR - NTH - BEL? Or perhaps YOR - LON &
look
> around in the fall? I would like a second dot but there's no need to pick
> it in the spring. . .>
Anything to get you on board, France I havent heared from but I think he is
away.
Arent you a little worried about Russia?
bel - pic seems a good bet anyway even if you dont work with me. At worst I
can retreat it to HOL.
I dont mind swapping BEL for HOL.
Message from Germany to France
Are you stil away?
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Arent you a little worried about Russia?
Yes. I am also worried about France. And also Italy, you, Austria, and
Turkey.
Is there something I should know?
Ben
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
>OK are we on? I will cut support from NTH. You may consider taking NWY from
>STP anyway. Else he may just retreat to SKA and threaten SWE. By taking it
>from STP supported by SWE you avoid this. Just a thought. WAR will stil be
>safe.
I've been trying to figure out what I prefer out of him. StP-Nwy
encourages him to retreat to Bar, Swe-Nwy encourages Nwy-Ska. In the
latter case we end up with a guessing game about how to defend. So
StP-Nwy is a possibility.
Do you have a sense of what you want to accomplish come Fall? The
only problem with StP-Nwy for going forward is that it doesn't put
any pressure on Nth. What we are looking to do in Fall may well
affect how I choose to move wrt Nwy in Spring. Do you expect to want
support into Nth? I think we're likely to be defensive in the Fall,
and wait to see what England disbands, as each of us hopefully picks
up a center (Hol for you, Nwy for me) and build, so F Nwy doesn't
seem as important to me the short term.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to England
>>Is there something I should know?>>
You should know that I am very concerned about an EF against me, but you
know this.
You should also know that I believe France to be my worst enemy right now
with 3 of his units facing me.
And last but not least I find it puzzling that you havent mentioned the
Russian build, it must have you a little worried.
As I am unable to commuicate with France I wil have to consider him hostile.
No need to have him say "well I couldnt warn you as I was out of town".
Message from Germany to Germany
Its very quiet on the communications side of things, byt maybe the silence
says enough. I am still waiting to hear from Russia. I am guessing France is
away. My best plan of action wil be to consider EF and maybe even Russia as
hostile.
But if that is the case then I am lost.
I dont see AI playing any role just yet until matters are sorted out down
south. Maybe this year wil show how people are thinking. Annoying that
France is incommunicado, but there again maybe he is just ignoring me.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> And last but not least I find it puzzling that you havent
> mentioned the Russian build, it must have you a little worried.
Of course I am worried about the Russian build. Did you not offer me SWE?
He whispers nice things to me; we will see what he does.
I was quite surprised when he did not build A WAR, though.
> As I am unable to commuicate with France I wil have to
> consider him hostile.
> No need to have him say "well I couldnt warn you as I was out
> of town".
Agreed.
Ben
Message from Germany to Russia
Just getting back to SEV, maybe hold with 3 is best for spring. This would
allow the threat of MOS on STP which may deter england retreating to BAR.
SKA seems the most likely, although HEL may be interesting depending on how
HOL/BEL works out. As you stated I think the fall will be mainly defensive.
He has asked for support into sweden in exchange for moving LON - ENG. I
agreed ofcourse, although the move to ENG threatens me more than France. I
dont trust him but he doesnt have much else to do with Norway. I am
expecting NTH - HEL and a retreat to SKA. I may lose MUN but I should be
able to keep HOL as a retreat or retake.
I will just cut NTH and leave the choice up to you wether you take it with
STP or SWE. In a sense the fleet is interesting as it does enable an attack
on NTH sooner or later. But the threat of SKA is just as great if Sweden is
empty. I think STP would be better, we can always move SWE to SKA when
needed next year.
Message from Germany to England
Yes I did, thats why I was a little worried you never mentioned sweden or
the build in stp.
As stated my main problem is France being incomunicado. I can keep two on
MUN and keep him out of RUH. I cant be sure to make it to PIC and may
bounbce there with him.
At worst all bounces.
Message from France to Germany
Tony:
I liked your "mistaken broadcast" of last week. Cute.
Anyway, I am back on the horn now, all ISP problems aside. While it's
pretty clear what my plans are, I'm always willing to change them if
there's a convincing argument to do so. A Tyrolia could always be used to
move on Italy, and Burgundy could back down.
Erik
Message from Germany to France
Great your back in town.
>While it's pretty clear what my plans are, I'm always willing to change them if
there's a convincing argument to do so. A Tyrolia could always be used to
move on Italy, and Burgundy could back down.>
What are your plans? I certainly dont know them, or was that ment to be the case.
For now I am assuming that you will be hostile, only an inclination as your previous press sometime ago shed some light on a possible FG friendship. Can we agree on anything? let me know.
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
>He has asked for support into sweden in exchange for moving LON -
>ENG. I agreed ofcourse, although the move to ENG threatens me more
>than France. I dont trust him but he doesnt have much else to do
>with Norway. I am expecting NTH - HEL and a retreat to SKA. I may
>lose MUN but I should be able to keep HOL as a retreat or retake.
Not surprising that he would ask you for support to Swe. As you have
probably guessed, he asked me for Swe S Nth-Den, in exchange for
granting me Berlin down the line.
I'm not sure what he'll be doing with Lon. I asked him about it, and
specifically prodded at Eng, and he didn't respond one way or the
other. So it'll all be one big surprise for me.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
>As you have probably guessed, he asked me for Swe S Nth-Den, in exchange
for
granting me Berlin down the line.>
Hardly worth a guess, I am betting he forgot to mention that you could only
keep BEr for as long as it took EF to get to you. EF are definitely an item.
I believe we made the right decision to combine forces. We do seem to be the
odd ones out. Have you decided on which way to take NWY?
> I'm not sure what he'll be doing with Lon. I asked him about it, and
specifically prodded at Eng, and he didn't respond one way or the
other. So it'll all be one big surprise for me.>
Well France hasnt approached me , but as I stated some time ago my choice to
move on ENG to cut support was twofold. One of which being the fact that I
will then probably bounce with London in NTH. He may support it in from NWY
but that will be cut by your attack. My cutting of NTH ensures your build.
We both profit. Hopefully better that a promise of BER down the line, when
the time comes, if all goes well etc. etc. etc.
This will be a decisive spring, no matter what happens I will be in some
trouble. I am banking on you seeing that EF are in it for the long run. It
doesnt matter to them what color the units are in germany (black or grey)
when the time comes they will be removed. How are you getting on down south?
Message from Germany to England
I have pressed France several times, no reply. Coming to think of it no
reply from you either since my last press.
I hope you and France are not taking long hot showers together and
forgetting little old germany.
Message from Germany to Germany
FE silence spells doom ahead, I try to keep an open mind but if it is to
open then my brain may fall out.
My accidental open broadcast may have caused Russia some concern. Usually I
inform a potential ally ahead of time that I will be feeding the suspected
victim false hope. This will be an interesting spring.
Message from Germany to France
Englands has requested that I move to PIC, is that wise?
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> I have pressed France several times, no reply. Coming to think of it no
> reply from you either since my last press.
> I hope you and France are not taking long hot showers together and
> forgetting little old germany.
But it's cold!
Seriously, he's written me once since he's been back and discussed his
plans. I think it's fair to say you freaked him out alittle bit. Curious
to see what he'll do. . .
The wires have been very quiet. I was just assuming there's still some
business in the East, or perhaps Erik is figuring out what he wants.
Ben
Austria: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Rumania → Serbia
Austria: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce, destroyed*)
Austria: Army Serbia → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Adriatic Sea (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Vienna → Trieste (*bounce*)
England: Fleet London → North Sea (*bounce*)
England: Fleet North Sea → Denmark (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Norway → Skagerrak
England: Army Yorkshire HOLD
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Tyrolia → Munich
France: Army Paris → Picardy
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Tyrolia → Munich
Germany: Army Belgium → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Berlin → Munich (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Denmark → North Sea (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Munich → Ruhr
Italy: Army Greece SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Adriatic Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice HOLD
Russia: Army Moscow → Ukraine
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol SUPPORT Turkish Army Armenia → Rumania
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Fleet Sweden SUPPORT Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Army Ukraine → Galicia
Turkey: Army Armenia → Black Sea → Rumania
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea CONVOY Army Armenia → Rumania
Turkey: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Army Armenia → Rumania (*cut*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
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