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Message from Germany to Germany
Oops, I was sure I kept MUN and removed RUH. A little mistake there.
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
I will probably regret taking KIE. But you & Russia were each promising /me/ a favorable move and were each promising /each other/ a move unfavorable to me. So I was left having to guess, having been bitten once and a half by each of you, and I went with Russia. When you see the archives, you will see how difficult a choice it was for me.
The fake press was a nice touch. . .
I'll write something of substance when I can get my head into the tactics, but I didn't want to let too much time pass without writing.
Also thank you for the group press which helped crystalize some of the things that had been rattling around in my head, and I agree with you about several of your important points about what's to come.
Make me better! 8-)
Ben
Message from Germany to England
Hi Ben,
Well I made quite a booby with my disbands, I was sure I disbanded RUH
instead of MUN.
Darn my fat fingers and lack of brain/eye/hand coordination.
Hopefully the powers that be will be confused and seek explanation in some
genius tactical dibandonment order.
It will indeed be interesting to see how you came to make the choice you
did. I see no excape for you. I think you blew the second chance when you
built what you did. Going by Frances build he had some hope. Wait and see
when the first Russian build in STP pops its head up. He made it by the skin
of his teeth when you didnt opt to take Norway instead. As you can see from
my moves (once again) I was genuine.
Unless BUR supports me back to MUN and you support BER then my two sc's will
fall to Russia.
I am guessing that France will be retreating IRI. If I were you I would
still opt fro the central allience and push NTH - NWG and LON - NTH. This
nets you Norway in the fall. It will be your last chance.
I wont diplome with you and france this move. I think I have said enough
regarding the situation on the board. I am wondering where you went wrong
with France that he moved to IRI?
Nothing fits Russia's game plan better than to have you and France fight.
Even now you must realise just looking at the board how lucky Russia is now.
Your fleets all seem to be aiming west. He will have tight cheeks this
coming year, move now move swiftly. Your build in LVP may have left him with
his guard down a little, but thereagain there is nothing he can do if you
move north.
I will just order BER hold and RUH - MUN. I will soon know what happens. My
fortune cookie prediction for this year is the fall of Greece and BUD and
depending on EF actions the fall of BER & MUN. Builds to be made in STP and
MOS.
The coming years I see RT sweeping through Germany and Italy and Austria.
Good luck whatever you chose to do.
Tony
Message from England to Germany
Tony -
> Well I made quite a booby with my disbands, I was sure I
> disbanded RUH instead of MUN.
> Darn my fat fingers and lack of brain/eye/hand coordination.
I was sure I was missing the brilliance. . .
> I am guessing that France will be retreating IRI.
I hope so. I certainly did not mean to terminate the EF relation - I thought it was a natural and flexible build.
> I wont diplome with you and france this move.
This I understand.
> I will just order BER hold and RUH - MUN. I will soon know what happens.
Whichever way I go - I may be looking for an army presence in the fall. We will see where we are, but I am sure I will be bending your ear for something.
> The coming years I see RT sweeping through Germany and Italy and Austria.
Definitely the RT. I agree.
> Good luck whatever you chose to do.
Thank you, my friend. And to you.
Ben
Message from Germany to England and France
I have ordered BER hold and RUH - MUN. I am hoping for support in BER from
DEN
(although it can be cut). I am also hoping on RUH - MUN supported by BUR. I
fear BER & MUN wil else be taken by Russia.
I am sure you guys have made peace regarding LVP.
Those who are about to die salute you.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
Sorry guys I messed up my retreat orders. I was meant to keep MUN and BER to
move on BOH and SIL.
Good luck.
Message from Germany to England
OK, I just couldnt resist one last press to you and France :-)
Message from Germany to all
Turkey, I blame you for my downfall. So my wil and testament requests that
England, France and Italy position their fleets as such to allow me to
convoy
to CON to have a few words to you. I will be bording in HEL and hopping vai
NTH, ENG, MAO, WES, TYS, ION, AEG to CON.
I would be gratefull if the AEG would assist in this operation.You owe me at
least that much for all the bad advice you have been pressing me these last
few years.
Message from Austria to all
Hi all,
I'm not going to be available this week-end and will
get back to everyone monday.
Philippe
Message from Russia to all
This has been a hellishly busy week for me and the weekend doesn't look
much better. (Then again, neither does next week, so I'll just try to deal
with it and not request any extensions). While I've managed to dash off a
note here and there, I've mostly disappeared for the last two days. My
apologies to those who are owed notes from me, I will attempt to get notes
out before the end of the night.
In addition to overall time management issues, my ISP started deciding
sometime last week that certain messages from USTX are spam. This means
that I didn't see some messages for days after they arrived here, and
because of user error a couple of those messages were immediately deleted.
I *believe* that I have at least seen every message that was sent to me,
even if I still don't have a copy on hand, but if you sent anything really
important to me in the last few days, I request that you resend it.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
<Insert lame "I'm too busy to write" excuse here. I'm sick of writing them.:)>
What's your thinking these days. You mention that you think I'll have
the best offers for you -- what are you thinking those would be? What
are you looking to get out of the endgame? As I see it, you are
poised to help either Erik or me -- or ask for help from one of us --
but I'm not sure what your plan is. Even your EFR message leaves me a
little confused, because I can't tell whether you would rather see me
do well (to try to prove your point correct) see France do well, or
just see England hurt because he didn't take Nwy.
Let me know what you are looking to get out of the rest of the game.
If we can come up with some way to work together that keeps the game
interesting for you, I'd be happy to do so. I was not kidding when I
said I have been impressed by your play, and I wouldn't mind getting
some ideas from you for how to go forward.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Eric, well to be honest there is not much I can do except maybe play the
puppet roll.
I really messed up in the begin stages when I made craapy moves against
France.
I over analysed the moves available and also thought that EF would have
worked together.
I never had to lose MUN and even the most basic moves would have been better
than the moves I carried out around the RUH/MUN area. It's just been one of
those games ;-)
I wonder what would have happened had I carried through on the western
tripple from day one. Alas, a little to late now.
Well the analysis I gave is how I see the game going, you and Turkey taking
Italy/AUstria and Germany.
EF had their last chance when England should have built in EDI. The French
build does indicate that he for one had faith in the options open to them.
This will be your last critical year, if England once again fails to head
north and take NWY then you will be home and dry for the coming years.
I still believe his best option would have been to attack you last year. He
would have still received his two builds and would have had expansion
possibilities to the north. That would have messed you up really bad. It
will be interesting to find out how/why he made the decision he did.
All I have to offer is the following.
BER - KIE supported by BAL
SWE - DEN cutting support
RUH - HOL cutting support
SIL - BER
This does ensure that Kiel falls and I stay on as a Russsian puppet. I swap
BER for KIE.
Although I asked for England to support BER and for France to support me
inot MUN I dont see them doing so.
Ben was obviously to worried about the thought of being stuck between you
and France hence the build in LVP.
If I am to exit then I would obviously prefer someone to solo than say a
three or four way draw.
Englands two builds havent really helped in. I said that you would like
nothing better for EF to slog it out whilst RT inch their way forward. I
dont believe Ben is seeing the big picture so he deserves to be punished :-)
Although you and I know he should move NTH - NWG, LON - NTH and defend BER I
dont think he will. He doesnt realise this will be he last chance. Any gain
you make will be put in STP. Its your weak back door.
Maybe the "told you so" will be enough for me before I exit. So that what I
can offer. BER for KIE. If England does decide to move north then you stilll
at least have me in KIE and on your side.
You can ofcourse just take BER yourself, as I said I dont believe Ben will
support BER. and I cant stop it being taken without him. I did make a
mistake. I was sure that I disbanded RUH and not MUN. I messed up there. AI
did ask for a last minute support. I move MUN - BOH supported by TRY and cut
support from SIL. As I messed uo with my disbands I cant do so now. There
was no hidden strategic tactical disband, it was a genuine mistake.
Luckily my other 18 games are going a lot better.
Tony
Message from Germany to Russia
I have set wait. For now I had ordered BER hold and RUH - MUN.
BER I hoped would be supported by DEN and BUR is hopefully supporting RUH -
MUN.
I doubt it. So let me know if I need to change my orders. SWE - DEN seems
the move to make in either casee. If england does support me then you have
to cut it. If I move to KIE then SWE needs to cut DEN anyway.
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
>I really messed up in the begin stages when I made craapy moves against
>France.
Well, my honest opinion of my own moves is not very far off. I've made
crappy moves probably every other turn. I've just been a lot luckier than
you in that (so far at least) I haven't been under the kind of pressure you
have.
>I wonder what would have happened had I carried through on the western
>tripple from day one. Alas, a little to late now.
Selfishly, I'm glad that you didn't. :)
>That [Ben going north] would have messed you up really bad. It
>will be interesting to find out how/why he made the decision he did.
I would be hurt very badly by his coming north. I would not have been
surprised to see him do it
>All I have to offer is the following.
>BER - KIE supported by BAL
>SWE - DEN cutting support
>RUH - HOL cutting support
>SIL - BER
That is basically the move set I would have offered had I come to you
first. However you go, I'd like to see you take Kie. If Kie is gone -- even
just to Hel -- I'm in much better shape than I would be otherwise. Your
second message said you are doing something else. Are you up for the moves
you listed here?
>This does ensure that Kiel falls and I stay on as a Russsian puppet. I swap
>BER for KIE.
And if you maintain the unit in Ruh, we could try to get you another center
with it come fall; probably Mun (with the idea that it would move to Hol
the next year), but it depends on the actual situation -- I could even see
trying to get you into Den. You can see that at this point, I have no
reason to try to eliminate you, since you hold very important positions
that I'd like to have influence over. Fighting to get there myself is much
harder than getting help to get there.
>Although I asked for England to support BER and for France to support me
>into MUN I dont see them doing so.
Well, given that France is demanding that I support him to Mun, I tend to
agree this is unlikely. :)
>Englands two builds havent really helped in. I said that you would like
>nothing better for EF to slog it out whilst RT inch their way forward. I
>dont believe Ben is seeing the big picture so he deserves to be punished :-)
Well, I give him a little more credit than that, but it does indicate he's
pretty worried about France. It remains to see whether they fight or not.
>You can of course just take BER yourself, as I said I dont believe Ben will
>support BER. and I cant stop it being taken without him.
Yeah, forcing you to retreat towards War is a really good option for me! :)
>I did make a
>mistake. I was sure that I disbanded RUH and not MUN. I messed up there. AI
>did ask for a last minute support. I move MUN - BOH supported by TRY and cut
>support from SIL. As I messed uo with my disbands I cant do so now. There
>was no hidden strategic tactical disband, it was a genuine mistake.
How frustrating. I had just assumed that you were looking to order Ruh S
Bur-Mun.
>Luckily my other 18 games are going a lot better.
Did I say I think you are insane? :) I can't even keep up with one or two
games. But I'm glad to hear the others are gong well.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
>Your second message said you are doing something else. Are you up for the
moves
you listed here?> Yes I am in for them even it is just to say to Ben, "told
you so".
>You can see that at this point, I have no reason to try to eliminate you,
since you hold very important positions
that I'd like to have influence over. Fighting to get there myself is much
harder than getting help to get there.>
You can count me in, they are about the only moves that could give pleasure.
> Well, given that France is demanding that I support him to Mun, I tend to
agree this is unlikely. :) >
:)
So all in all I am in for BER - KIE supported by BAL whilst SWE cuts
Denamark and I cut HOL support.
In fact just for the hell of it I have ordered just such moves.
Message from France to all
Sorry, all. I had a big issue involving my e-mail provider that has now
been fixed.
Erik
Austria: Army Budapest → Serbia (*bounce, dislodged*)
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Albania
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Fleet Trieste (*void*)
England: Fleet Denmark → Helgoland Bight
England: Fleet Kiel → Holland (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Liverpool → Irish Sea
England: Fleet London → English Channel
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Fleet Kiel → Holland
France: Army Belgium SUPPORT Army Holland
France: Army Burgundy → Ruhr (*bounce*)
France: Army Gascony → Marseilles
France: Army Holland SUPPORT Army Belgium (*cut*)
France: Fleet Irish Sea → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Fleet Marseilles → Gulf of Lyon
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Western Mediterranean (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Berlin → Kiel (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Ruhr → Holland (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Greece (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Western Mediterranean (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Austrian Army Vienna
Italy: Army Venice → Rome
Russia: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT English Fleet Denmark → Kiel (*void*)
Russia: Army Bohemia → Munich
Russia: Army Galicia → Budapest
Russia: Fleet Rumania SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria
Russia: Army Sevastopol SUPPORT Fleet Rumania
Russia: Army Silesia → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Sweden → Norway
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea → Greece
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea → Greece
Turkey: Army Serbia SUPPORT Russian Army Galicia → Budapest
Turkey: Fleet Smyrna → Aegean Sea
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