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Message from Germany to England and France
Have you two sorted out your problems yet? Russia is pushing me (and
probably france) to fight england. Surely all three of us realise that this
will only speed up his solo.
I can understand France being annoyed and untrusting towards england (as I
am/was). I think the two of you missed your best chance but it is never to
late. France and I can misuse russia's trust oin an GF against england to
our advantage.
I suggest nth - ska, hol - nth supported by hel and bel - nth, allow france
to pick up BEL. If all works well (although I expect SKA to bounce) then at
least we have a fighting chance. I am sure Ben doesnt mind risking one unit
for survival.. If you want we could even try;
ruh - mun supported by kie and bur.
hol - kie supported by hel, nth - nwg, bel - nth.
Still give france belgium. this way ben stays as he is as do i and france
picks up bel. Any suggestions are welcome but unless you two (all 3 of us)
work together we are alll doomned. Let me know.
Message from Germany to Russia
I am offering FE an allyship to see if I can work out what Ben will do, I am
not sure of France I havent heared from him. Going by his christmas message
he wont be working with Ben.
What moves do you have in mind. Sorry for the long delay but RL took over.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
A little late in the game but is there any chance of AI doing something
together? RT will be all over you this year
Message from England to France and Germany
Gentlemen -
I am stepping out the door but I wanted to get in a quick response, on one point:
> allow france to pick up BEL.
I have already offered France Belgium and that offer stands.
I'll be glad to get into the tactics later - I agree that some cooperation is necessary or we (I) will embarass us even more in front of the gallery. . .
Ben
Message from Germany to England and France
>>or we (I) will embarass us even more in front of the gallery. . .>>
I think I have scored enough points there for all 7 players
Message from Austria to Germany
> A little late in the game but is there any chance of AI doing something
> together? RT will be all over you this year
Tony,
Is anyone around? I have no news from
Andy following the adjustment phase.
Philippe
Message from Germany to Turkey
The Russian build in STP leaves me a little puzzled. To me it says that he
is not interested in advancing on the UK.
He will no doubt be happy with builds from KIE/MUN/BER.
This means that he needs fewer builds from Italy/Austria/Turkey to solo.
When do you anticipate a stab?
I am banking om him not stabbing you until he has assured himself of VIE.
Good luck.
Message from Germany to Russia
The deadline is approaching, what will we be doing? I think our best bet is
to get SIL to BOH and WAR to GAL whilst I attack HOL from KIE supported by
RUH. If we can also get France to attack BEL using PIC/BUR whilst you cut
support from HEL then surely something must give. Let me know, time is
running out. The french man hasnt responded to any press.
Message from Germany to France
I know Ben has messed you around a few times so maybe SPA - POR and GOL -
SPA is the safe way to go. An attck by PIC/BUR on BEL should succeed. I
could attack Holland at the same time. My moves are not in, if you prefer
the attack on Russia then let me know. If BEn is being honest then you could
just push PIC - BEL and use BUR to support KIE into MUN. Let me know in
time.
Message from Germany to Germany
Well my options are limited. Stay with Russia and get killed off this year
or join England and maybe live a little longer.
No doubt Russia will try to keep England on board and state that his build
in STP is of no threat to England, which it isnt.
A fleet in STP would have helped my cause a little but my exit is only a
matter of time.
I think that Russia will play it carefully and push for KIE/BER/VIE then
attack Turkey and push for the solo. He doesnt want Turkey picking up more
than one build. Thats my light at the end of the tunnel, Russia should push
for BOH/GAL and use me against EF and pick up KIE/BER whenever I pick up HOL
or BEL.
It's a shame France isnt talking, at least he isnt to me. I believe Ben when
he says he hasnt heared anything from france.
I will see who replies what and then decide which moves to submit. I will
explain why in the same press.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
If you guys opt to pick at Russia one sc at a time then support of kie - mun
would be appreciated.
I think this time around EFG will be working together. Although Russia can
retreat to BER an EFG can help AI in the short term. I am sure all three of
us would prefer Russia to solo than just have us 3 removed. Lets delay that
option for as long as possible. I can see TYR doing anything else useful
right now. There is always hope ;-)
Message from France to England and Germany
Gentlemen:
Obviously, I'd love to have Belgium returned to my control. Apart from
giving me the strength necessary to head where I need to head, it would
heal a lot of old wounds.
I think Tony's suggestions are probably the best course of action. The big
open issue for me is the South. I'm sure Andy was pleased to see my
disbandment, but is Jason's lessening of pressure going to cause him to
come West? I may need to keep those fleets down there for a little while.
Ruhr - Mun supported by Kiel looks good. Do you think you can get support
from Tyr for that move?
Erik
Message from Turkey to Germany
Good to hear from you.
I agree that he wants to guarantee Austria, but I'm not sure how soon
I'll be able to move north. If you could work with England to assure
your survival, that would help keep Russia at bay.
jason
Message from Germany to England and France
Well we spoke of kie - mun supported byruh and bur.
This woulkd allow Ben to push hol - kie supported by HEL whilst nth moved to nwg and bel to nth.
This would allow pic - bel leaving bur free to support kie - mun.
I have asked the italian for support but he hasnt yet replied.
Let me know on the kie-mun supported by ruh & bur.
If Ben pushes for KIE then kie will probably be destroyed, i am sure russia will go for ber & kie.
Thats why I believe we have to push kie - mun.
tony
Message from Austria to Germany
> If you guys opt to pick at Russia one sc at a time then support of kie - mun
> would be appreciated.
> I think this time around EFG will be working together. Although Russia can
> retreat to BER an EFG can help AI in the short term. I am sure all three of
> us would prefer Russia to solo than just have us 3 removed. Lets delay that
> option for as long as possible. I can see TYR doing anything else useful
> right now. There is always hope ;-)
I finally heard from Andy, but his response was so curt
that I'm pretty sure that he isn't going to help me like he
indicated.
Good luck to you, but I doubt I'm going to survive.
Philippe
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
Sorry, been busy and having ISP troubles. How are things going with France? I
got press from him that said working with you was a good idea.
What I'd like to do is not move Den Spring (though I could support you in
Kie) while you and France get Bel for France, then in Fall I can tap Nth (or
Hel) when England's focused on retaking Bel. But that only makes sense if you
and France are working together.
I'll try to be responsive for the rest of the day today, though I've got
meetings in the afternoon that will take me away for a few hours. Let me know
what's going on.
--- Eric
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Erik, wow this time difference is going to cause a problem.
I have heared from France and he is going after Belgium.
I am not sure what you meant with DEN Spring. I will send a 3 way press, I
hope its not to late. FG have agreed to attack BEL/HOL. I will be moving
KIE - HOL supported by RUH he will be attacking BEL with both units.
Please leave BER empty till fall. If he succeeds in attacking KIE (as I am
not sure if you will be tapping HEL) then I will need somehwere to retreat
to if he uses NTH to support HOL. At least BEL or HOL will fall.
If you can tap HEL please. Maybe mun - bur and sil - mun may lead to an
interesting situation!!!
Message from Germany to France
Russia thinks that you and I will be attacking BEL/HOL. I will send a press
stating just that. Ignore it.
Please support KIE - MUN.
Message from Germany to Germany
It's nearing the deadline and I still have no idea what to do. I would like
to go out with a bang or survive a little longer.
Message from Germany to France and Russia
Just to reconfirm. I will be moving KIE - HOL supported by RUH. France will
be attacking BEL. The reason I am using KIE to attack with is that England
surely will attack KIE no matter what. Even if it is just with one unit.
Message from England to France and Germany
Gentlemen -
Ok, Tony's last press is fine with me; that's what I'll do unless I hear
otherwise from one of you.
I have out of town company & will have only *limited* access until the
deadline.
Erik as long as the East is uncertain and Andy is not being *attacked* from
that side you should fear he will come for you.
Do as you wish with your fleets - I am leaving MAO to go northward, as I
wrote you privately - but take care not to put them out of position. If
you dislodge MAO, I will understand; just think about what the board will
look like with your fleets there & there.
I will check press again before I put in my orders - sorry to be so hasty
on deadline day.
Ben
Message from Italy to Germany
Tony,
Can I get a support to Munich...
If you bounce with him in Berlin, it pops the unit there and you can have
it back in the Fall as I will move east.
Andy
Message from Germany to Italy
Hi Andy,
>>If you bounce with him in Berlin, it pops the unit there and you can have
it back in the Fall as I will move east.>>
If I read this correctly you want me to move kie - ber and have ruh support
tyr to mun?
I am sure he would be able to retreat to boh and you will be stuck in mun.
It is very near the deadline and as far as I know/believe france should be
supporting kie - mun. I was hoping that ai could act together but that has
been a problem all along. Due no doubt to proper reasoning between the two
of you. Not only my own shortcoming have created the situation I am in but
also bad luck with developments around me.
It's a little late to talk to France. To tell you the truth I have no idea
what to do. I think Ben is attacking KIE at my request so KIE would be
useless for any support. This would only leave RUH tosupport you in. I think
Russia may just push WAR - PRU and have SIL support MUN just to be safe.
I believe it's curtains down for GIA. Looking at it rationaly I would prefer
someone to solo if I am not to be in any draw which is the case at this
moment in time unless something miraculous happens.
I could lie to you and say YES I will support you in, At least this way I am
sure MUN is cut at the least.
I truly do not know what to do. I even suggested that Russia push mun - bur
and sil - mun. I doubt he will but you never know. Something strange may
happen and MUN may be left empty (if I lie to you and say yes and you bounce
with sil).
We still have a few hours and it is two hours before I have to go to bed.
What is the situation with Austria?
I still think that kie - mun supported by ruh, tyr, bur is the best way to
go. Especially if Ben pushes for kie.
This gives us a shot at ber in the fall. If Austria could be convinced to
move to BOH then we are sure to destroy mun. Any Russian loss is a gain for
EFAGI.
I only think tyr - mun supported by ruh and kie - ber has little hope. Or
did you mean something else when you said that I should pop into ber?
tony
Message from Italy to Germany
>
> >>If you bounce with him in Berlin, it pops the unit there and you can have
> it back in the Fall as I will move east.>>
>
> If I read this correctly you want me to move kie - ber and have ruh support
> tyr to mun?
> I am sure he would be able to retreat to boh and you will be stuck in mun.
> It is very near the deadline and as far as I know/believe france should be
> supporting kie - mun. I was hoping that ai could act together but that has
> been a problem all along. Due no doubt to proper reasoning between the two
> of you. Not only my own shortcoming have created the situation I am in but
> also bad luck with developments around me.
Austria and I have been working together for a year. And his only request
is that I move from Tyrolia, which is why I am looking at Munich. He wants
me to go to Bohemia.
Which I really dont have a problem doing.
> I believe it's curtains down for GIA. Looking at it rationaly I would prefer
> someone to solo if I am not to be in any draw which is the case at this
> moment in time unless something miraculous happens.
>
I still think that the Turk can be turned.
> I only think tyr - mun supported by ruh and kie - ber has little hope. Or
> did you mean something else when you said that I should pop into ber?
No...you had it right.
If I move to Boh, he retreats to Tyrolia....
Message from Germany to Russia
Well so far Italy has asked for support into MUN. I have told him France is
supporting me in and that Ben is going for KIE. Not that all this helps us
in HOL. I am looking forward to the RT surprise down south ;-)
Message from Germany to Italy
> If I move to Boh, he retreats to Tyrolia....>
Moving to boh would be pointless, that is why I was hoping Austria would
move there.
Strange Austria said that he hadnt spoken to you for some time and had no
idea what you were doing.
I think our only bet is to work together with efgai. It's a long shot buy I
do believe Ben will be attacking KIE and that France will be supporting
KIE - MUN. If we need to dent Russia a bit then I hope you see that although
we only tickle him we at least send a signle that we mean business. I will
be the first to exit no doubt about that.
I have spoken to the Turk and I think we both agree that he is safe from a
stab until ber/vie are captured.
If he is willing to go for BUD now in conjunction with Austira then great.
I think though that we will be seeing ser - gre, rum - ser supported by bud
and gre s ser - gre.If the Turk does turn this round then Austria is
doomned. But at least you and the Turk would be able to expand and stop the
russian onslaught.
If this is the case then surely kie - mun supported by tyr along with tus -
ven is the way to go.
We may even see ser - alb, rum - ser supported by bud, con - bul, bla - con,
eas - ion supported by aeg.
Message from Germany to Germany
Well I think I have proven to myself that I have lost all touch with this
game. I guess running 26 games at once is a little to much. I like the
concept of a gallery and the commentation on the game. I promise next time I
sign up to such a game I will give it the attention the game and the
observers deserve. It has been a weird game but I will explain this in the
EOG.
I still believe that RT are working strongly together. I am expecting Russia
to push for BOH and PRU. BUD may retreat to GAL and the UKR will move to
RUM.
Either I have lost it completely or my eyes have only just opened up to the
developments around the board.
I am of no longer use to Russia and my money is still on him soloing. I
expect to be removed by Russia by the fall unless something unexpected
happens. I have ordered kie - mun supported by ruh. Why? well there is not
much else I can do.
The Italian offer went over my head, if EF stick to what they say then the
chance of italy succeeding are very remote to say the least. I could attack
Holland from kie supported by ryh but that I am sure would bounce.
I cant blame Ben for not going north I can only applaud Russia for
convincing him otherwise. If only, if only, if only we had gone ahead with
the western alliance at the beginning as planned ;-)
Message from France to England and Germany
Okay, I'll support Munich and go for Bel. Ben, my fleets will be taking
somewhat defensive action without trying to stray too far from Andy. Hope
you understand. We'll say where things stand next turn down south. I think
I'll be okay playing D for a turn with him.
Erik
Message from Italy to Germany
Tony,
You make several statements here that make no sense at all.
> > If I move to Boh, he retreats to Tyrolia....>
>
> Moving to boh would be pointless, that is why I was hoping Austria would
> move there.
Assuming that the Turk doesnt support BUD. This is his only chance to take
it.
> Strange Austria said that he hadnt spoken to you for some time and had no
> idea what you were doing.
We didnt speak alot, but he told me what he wanted.
> I think our only bet is to work together with efgai. It's a long shot buy I
> do believe Ben will be attacking KIE and that France will be supporting
> KIE - MUN. If we need to dent Russia a bit then I hope you see that although
> we only tickle him we at least send a signle that we mean business. I will
> be the first to exit no doubt about that.
I have no problem with working together.
>
> I have spoken to the Turk and I think we both agree that he is safe from a
> stab until ber/vie are captured.
> If he is willing to go for BUD now in conjunction with Austira then great.
Well...he had that option last season and supported it.
> I think though that we will be seeing ser - gre, rum - ser supported by bud
> and gre s ser - gre.If the Turk does turn this round then Austria is
> doomned.
I told him very plainly that if he attacked Greece with support, all bets
were off and I would help the Russian take his dots.
But at least you and the Turk would be able to expand and stop the
> russian onslaught.
If the Turk is attacking me, I am not going to get ANYTHING in the
balkans.
> If this is the case then surely kie - mun supported by tyr along with tus -
> ven is the way to go.
Well...TUS - VEN is going to totally freak out the Austrian, but I might
do this anyway.
> We may even see ser - alb, rum - ser supported by bud, con - bul, bla - con,
> eas - ion supported by aeg.
We shall see, if he makes an agressive move in my direction I will watch
the French kill me from behind before he gets anything other than Greece.
Message from Italy to Germany
Tony,
I just heard from the French. He is supporting you to Munich, I will too.
Andy
Message from Germany to Italy
Good to hear Andy. Sorry if I sounded garblish. It's late and I am dutch. At
least I was up front when I said I believe dfrance would be supporting me
and that I therefore found it a little late to change my moves.
Yes, france just sent me a press staing he would be supporting me. I lose
KIE and go to one sc but where there is life there is hope.
Austria: Army Trieste → Venice (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Russian Army Munich → Tyrolia
England: Fleet Belgium → North Sea
England: Fleet Helgoland Bight SUPPORT Fleet Holland → Kiel
England: Fleet Holland → Kiel
England: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → North Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet North Sea → Skagerrak
France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Picardy → Belgium
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon HOLD
France: Army Picardy → Belgium
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Portugal
Germany: Army Kiel → Munich
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Kiel → Munich
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Tuscany → Venice (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT German Army Kiel → Munich (*dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Budapest → Serbia (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Denmark HOLD
Russia: Army Munich → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Silesia → Bohemia
Russia: Army St Petersburg HOLD
Russia: Army Sweden SUPPORT Fleet Denmark
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Warsaw → Silesia
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Army Serbia → Trieste (*bounce*)
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