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Message from England to France
Erik -
> Regardless of what I end up disbanding, you should be aware than I am
> indeed still willing to work with you. You will excuse caution on my
> part, but I think history demands that I not turn a blind eye to you for
> a little while without a very good cause.
No, no, that's fine. I understand. A PIE was reasonable diplomatically, I
just think it was kind of a shame to remove our most advanced unit.
> We can talk more when discussions for the next phase begin.
Ok, here we go!
What do you have in mind for the spring? What do you want me to do
(besides push MAO north, which I am doing)?
Ben
Message from Germany to England and France
Have you two sorted out your problems yet? Russia is pushing me (and
probably france) to fight england. Surely all three of us realise that this
will only speed up his solo.
I can understand France being annoyed and untrusting towards england (as I
am/was). I think the two of you missed your best chance but it is never to
late. France and I can misuse russia's trust oin an GF against england to
our advantage.
I suggest nth - ska, hol - nth supported by hel and bel - nth, allow france
to pick up BEL. If all works well (although I expect SKA to bounce) then at
least we have a fighting chance. I am sure Ben doesnt mind risking one unit
for survival.. If you want we could even try;
ruh - mun supported by kie and bur.
hol - kie supported by hel, nth - nwg, bel - nth.
Still give france belgium. this way ben stays as he is as do i and france
picks up bel. Any suggestions are welcome but unless you two (all 3 of us)
work together we are alll doomned. Let me know.
Message from England to France and Germany
Gentlemen -
I am stepping out the door but I wanted to get in a quick response, on one point:
> allow france to pick up BEL.
I have already offered France Belgium and that offer stands.
I'll be glad to get into the tactics later - I agree that some cooperation is necessary or we (I) will embarass us even more in front of the gallery. . .
Ben
Message from Germany to England and France
>>or we (I) will embarass us even more in front of the gallery. . .>>
I think I have scored enough points there for all 7 players
Message from England to France
Erik -
(from Tony yesterday to both of us:)
> I suggest nth - ska, hol - nth supported by hel and bel -
> nth, allow france
> to pick up BEL. If all works well (although I expect SKA to
> bounce) then at
> least we have a fighting chance. I am sure Ben doesnt mind
> risking one unit
> for survival.. If you want we could even try;
> ruh - mun supported by kie and bur.
> hol - kie supported by hel, nth - nwg, bel - nth.
> Still give france belgium. this way ben stays as he is as do
> i and france
> picks up bel. Any suggestions are welcome but unless you two
> (all 3 of us)
> work together we are alll doomned. Let me know.
Let me know which of these you like or if there is something else you would
prefer. I'm up for any of these but I want it to be your choice - I don't
want to be pressuring you (yet).
Ben
Message from France to England and Germany
Gentlemen:
Obviously, I'd love to have Belgium returned to my control. Apart from
giving me the strength necessary to head where I need to head, it would
heal a lot of old wounds.
I think Tony's suggestions are probably the best course of action. The big
open issue for me is the South. I'm sure Andy was pleased to see my
disbandment, but is Jason's lessening of pressure going to cause him to
come West? I may need to keep those fleets down there for a little while.
Ruhr - Mun supported by Kiel looks good. Do you think you can get support
from Tyr for that move?
Erik
Message from Turkey to England
It's been awful quiet over here this turn. Any action your way?
jason
Message from Germany to England and France
Well we spoke of kie - mun supported byruh and bur.
This woulkd allow Ben to push hol - kie supported by HEL whilst nth moved to nwg and bel to nth.
This would allow pic - bel leaving bur free to support kie - mun.
I have asked the italian for support but he hasnt yet replied.
Let me know on the kie-mun supported by ruh & bur.
If Ben pushes for KIE then kie will probably be destroyed, i am sure russia will go for ber & kie.
Thats why I believe we have to push kie - mun.
tony
Message from Russia to England
We are both unusually quiet this season. For me, it's entirely due to RL
issues (I've requested a *brief* extension to respond to them), and the lack
of anything to talk about for either of our football teams.
How's things on your end? Obviously I won't be threatening you, but is there
anything we need to coordinate?
Things are hectic as hell over here, and probably will be for the next few
weeks. If and when you notice the decline in the quality of my press (I don't
say quantity, because that's already low!) just keep that in mind.
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
> We are both unusually quiet this season.
I'm about to run out - yes, I've been quiet in all my games; I think I am
still affected by the holidays.
I guess you guys won't be getting Denny Green, after all. . .
Ben
Message from Russia to England
> I'm about to run out - yes, I've been quiet in all my games; I think I
> am still affected by the holidays.
For me it's work (the part that won't let up for quite a while), an ISP
problem (only for a day or less, and seems fixed now) and the failure to
recall that we have three family birthdays in early January (all in separate
branches of the family), which makes it as busy as the holidays, jsut without
all the time off.
> I guess you guys won't be getting Denny Green, after all. . .
I haven't even kept track of all the ones we haven't gotten. :)
--- Eric
Message from England to France and Germany
Gentlemen -
Ok, Tony's last press is fine with me; that's what I'll do unless I hear
otherwise from one of you.
I have out of town company & will have only *limited* access until the
deadline.
Erik as long as the East is uncertain and Andy is not being *attacked* from
that side you should fear he will come for you.
Do as you wish with your fleets - I am leaving MAO to go northward, as I
wrote you privately - but take care not to put them out of position. If
you dislodge MAO, I will understand; just think about what the board will
look like with your fleets there & there.
I will check press again before I put in my orders - sorry to be so hasty
on deadline day.
Ben
Message from France to England and Germany
Okay, I'll support Munich and go for Bel. Ben, my fleets will be taking
somewhat defensive action without trying to stray too far from Andy. Hope
you understand. We'll say where things stand next turn down south. I think
I'll be okay playing D for a turn with him.
Erik
Message from Russia to England
Hey Ben,
So now that we're in our customary secondary-negoatiation period, how are
things? I'm real curious what your take on the west is. Since neither of us
can talk to France anymore, I'm real curious what you are hearing about
things over there. I've heard very vague stuff that ranges from really good
for me to really bad for me.
From your POV it seems the real question is what will F and G each do and do
you need to defend against them (whether or not you cooperate with them). You
are unusually quiet this season (though so am I, so that's not a complaint),
which makes me nervous, but with France's usual silence I don't know how to
interpret it. I will say this: When you told me a season or two ago that Erik
was hard to work with because he never writes, I didn't believe you. I
thought it was just a line to make me feel good. I guess I should have
thought back to c1, where that was his explicit plan. :)
Anyway, this message isn't really meant to try to convince you of anything,
but now that I have a few minutes to breathe, I wanted to check in and get
your read on things.
Take care, happy new year, enjoy the games today and "Go <insert name of
favorite remaining team here>!"
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> So now that we're in our customary secondary-negoatiation period, how are
> things? I'm real curious what your take on the west is. Since neither of
us
> can talk to France anymore, I'm real curious what you are hearing about
> things over there. I've heard very vague stuff that ranges from really
good
> for me to really bad for me.
I have no idea what's going on in the west. Or what's going on in the
east. Or the south. I suspect this does not help you. But either Turkey
will attack you or he won't, and either France will attack Italy or he
won't, and god only knows what Germany will do. Sometimes I've been right
so far, sometimes I've been wrong, but I've always had a sense of what was
coming. Like I said, sometimes wrong, but I always had a sense. Now I am
guessing.
This game has been, now that I think about it, pretty unstable, which is
fun. More fun if you're winning, which I'm not. . . :o(
From your POV it seems the real question is what will F and G each do and
do
> you need to defend against them (whether or not you cooperate with them).
You
> are unusually quiet this season (though so am I, so that's not a
complaint),
I'm sorry about that. I've been quiet in my 2 other full press games, too.
I've had to deal with an ugly situation in a game I am gm'ing, and that's
consumed the little time I've had for Dip this past week.
> which makes me nervous, but with France's usual silence I don't know how
to
> interpret it. I will say this: When you told me a season or two ago that
Erik
> was hard to work with because he never writes, I didn't believe you. I
> thought it was just a line to make me feel good. I guess I should have
> thought back to c1, where that was his explicit plan. :)
Yes, I remember. Of course, then he went on to write rarely anyway. . .
> Anyway, this message isn't really meant to try to convince you of
anything,
> but now that I have a few minutes to breathe, I wanted to check in and get
> your read on things.
I have no idea what will happen anywhere. Probably related to the fact
that I haven't been writing as much as I am accustomed to.
> Take care, happy new year, enjoy the games today and "Go <insert name of
> favorite remaining team here>!"
None, really. No doubt the gallery is relieved. . .
Ben
Austria: Army Trieste → Venice (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Russian Army Munich → Tyrolia
England: Fleet Belgium → North Sea
England: Fleet Helgoland Bight SUPPORT Fleet Holland → Kiel
England: Fleet Holland → Kiel
England: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → North Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet North Sea → Skagerrak
France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Picardy → Belgium
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon HOLD
France: Army Picardy → Belgium
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Portugal
Germany: Army Kiel → Munich
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Kiel → Munich
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Tuscany → Venice (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT German Army Kiel → Munich (*dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Budapest → Serbia (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Denmark HOLD
Russia: Army Munich → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Silesia → Bohemia
Russia: Army St Petersburg HOLD
Russia: Army Sweden SUPPORT Fleet Denmark
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Warsaw → Silesia
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Army Serbia → Trieste (*bounce*)
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