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Message from England to France
Erik -
> Regardless of what I end up disbanding, you should be aware than I am
> indeed still willing to work with you. You will excuse caution on my
> part, but I think history demands that I not turn a blind eye to you for
> a little while without a very good cause.
No, no, that's fine. I understand. A PIE was reasonable diplomatically, I
just think it was kind of a shame to remove our most advanced unit.
> We can talk more when discussions for the next phase begin.
Ok, here we go!
What do you have in mind for the spring? What do you want me to do
(besides push MAO north, which I am doing)?
Ben
Message from Observer to Observer
----- Original Message -----
From: <c2f@yahoogroups.com>
To: <c2f@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 2:37 AM
Subject: [c2f] Digest Number 118
> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:20:58 +0000 (UTC)
Still behind :-( but catching up....
> From: USTX Diplomacy Judge <ustx@spencersoft.com>
> Subject: USTX:c2 - F1904M Press from E to E
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Message from BHarris@StAttorney.org as England to England in 'c2':
>
> I am finding it very difficult to negotiate with Erik. This will be the
> second movement phase in a row in which I presented a plan favorable to an
> EF, which he shoots down because as far as I can tell, he is counting dots.
> I am offering to go to war with another power and vacate ENG, while he loses
> two units that weren't doing anything but defending each other anyway.
>
> I will rummage through my trick bag and try to find a voice that he listens
> to, though I'm running out of options.
>
> Ben
The impression of this particular observer was asking for two centres from a power who might consider himself to be
stabbed the turn before whilst offering little tangible is somewhat greedy. I am not surprised at Erik's reluctance.
But........did you convince him?
Regards
Peter (reading on)
Message from Austria to Italy
Hi Andy,
Any idea for this year? France seem to be backing off
and Turkey isn't investing in naval power, this should
leave you with plenty of room to maneuver.
Philippe
Message from Germany to England and France
Have you two sorted out your problems yet? Russia is pushing me (and
probably france) to fight england. Surely all three of us realise that this
will only speed up his solo.
I can understand France being annoyed and untrusting towards england (as I
am/was). I think the two of you missed your best chance but it is never to
late. France and I can misuse russia's trust oin an GF against england to
our advantage.
I suggest nth - ska, hol - nth supported by hel and bel - nth, allow france
to pick up BEL. If all works well (although I expect SKA to bounce) then at
least we have a fighting chance. I am sure Ben doesnt mind risking one unit
for survival.. If you want we could even try;
ruh - mun supported by kie and bur.
hol - kie supported by hel, nth - nwg, bel - nth.
Still give france belgium. this way ben stays as he is as do i and france
picks up bel. Any suggestions are welcome but unless you two (all 3 of us)
work together we are alll doomned. Let me know.
Message from Germany to Russia
I am offering FE an allyship to see if I can work out what Ben will do, I am
not sure of France I havent heared from him. Going by his christmas message
he wont be working with Ben.
What moves do you have in mind. Sorry for the long delay but RL took over.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
A little late in the game but is there any chance of AI doing something
together? RT will be all over you this year
Message from England to France and Germany
Gentlemen -
I am stepping out the door but I wanted to get in a quick response, on one point:
> allow france to pick up BEL.
I have already offered France Belgium and that offer stands.
I'll be glad to get into the tactics later - I agree that some cooperation is necessary or we (I) will embarass us even more in front of the gallery. . .
Ben
Message from Austria to Russia
Hi Eric,
It seem I haven't much time left. The imbroglio between England &
France, while good for your situation in the north, has slowed up the
french invasion of Italy. At the same time, it seem that Jason has
renewed his alliance with Andy. How else can you explain his leaving
Greece peacefully and his decision to build an army instead of a fleet?
This mean that Andy is free to maneuver as he please and this has
never paid up for me in this game.
Also, unless I'm mistaken, your new army in Warsaw is there to insure
no southern power mess up your plan and to pick up whatever is left
from me. Had the situation been different, I wouldn't have appreciated
the implication of this build for me, but the situation being what it is, it's
not going to prevent me from working with you.
If you accept to keep me around to the end, with my current sc count
as a minimum, I will spend the rest of the game helping you solo. With
9 sc and the current situation in Europe, your chances of soloing are
good but still fragile, so it would be a fair deal for both of us. You get
to improve your odds of soloing and I get to have fun helping you along
or even share a draw if the solo isn't possible
Let me know what you think of this,
Philippe
Message from Germany to England and France
>>or we (I) will embarass us even more in front of the gallery. . .>>
I think I have scored enough points there for all 7 players
Message from Austria to Germany
> A little late in the game but is there any chance of AI doing something
> together? RT will be all over you this year
Tony,
Is anyone around? I have no news from
Andy following the adjustment phase.
Philippe
Message from England to France
Erik -
(from Tony yesterday to both of us:)
> I suggest nth - ska, hol - nth supported by hel and bel -
> nth, allow france
> to pick up BEL. If all works well (although I expect SKA to
> bounce) then at
> least we have a fighting chance. I am sure Ben doesnt mind
> risking one unit
> for survival.. If you want we could even try;
> ruh - mun supported by kie and bur.
> hol - kie supported by hel, nth - nwg, bel - nth.
> Still give france belgium. this way ben stays as he is as do
> i and france
> picks up bel. Any suggestions are welcome but unless you two
> (all 3 of us)
> work together we are alll doomned. Let me know.
Let me know which of these you like or if there is something else you would
prefer. I'm up for any of these but I want it to be your choice - I don't
want to be pressuring you (yet).
Ben
Message from Germany to Turkey
The Russian build in STP leaves me a little puzzled. To me it says that he
is not interested in advancing on the UK.
He will no doubt be happy with builds from KIE/MUN/BER.
This means that he needs fewer builds from Italy/Austria/Turkey to solo.
When do you anticipate a stab?
I am banking om him not stabbing you until he has assured himself of VIE.
Good luck.
Message from Germany to Russia
The deadline is approaching, what will we be doing? I think our best bet is
to get SIL to BOH and WAR to GAL whilst I attack HOL from KIE supported by
RUH. If we can also get France to attack BEL using PIC/BUR whilst you cut
support from HEL then surely something must give. Let me know, time is
running out. The french man hasnt responded to any press.
Message from Germany to France
I know Ben has messed you around a few times so maybe SPA - POR and GOL -
SPA is the safe way to go. An attck by PIC/BUR on BEL should succeed. I
could attack Holland at the same time. My moves are not in, if you prefer
the attack on Russia then let me know. If BEn is being honest then you could
just push PIC - BEL and use BUR to support KIE into MUN. Let me know in
time.
Message from Germany to Germany
Well my options are limited. Stay with Russia and get killed off this year
or join England and maybe live a little longer.
No doubt Russia will try to keep England on board and state that his build
in STP is of no threat to England, which it isnt.
A fleet in STP would have helped my cause a little but my exit is only a
matter of time.
I think that Russia will play it carefully and push for KIE/BER/VIE then
attack Turkey and push for the solo. He doesnt want Turkey picking up more
than one build. Thats my light at the end of the tunnel, Russia should push
for BOH/GAL and use me against EF and pick up KIE/BER whenever I pick up HOL
or BEL.
It's a shame France isnt talking, at least he isnt to me. I believe Ben when
he says he hasnt heared anything from france.
I will see who replies what and then decide which moves to submit. I will
explain why in the same press.
Message from Germany to Austria and Italy
If you guys opt to pick at Russia one sc at a time then support of kie - mun
would be appreciated.
I think this time around EFG will be working together. Although Russia can
retreat to BER an EFG can help AI in the short term. I am sure all three of
us would prefer Russia to solo than just have us 3 removed. Lets delay that
option for as long as possible. I can see TYR doing anything else useful
right now. There is always hope ;-)
Message from France to England and Germany
Gentlemen:
Obviously, I'd love to have Belgium returned to my control. Apart from
giving me the strength necessary to head where I need to head, it would
heal a lot of old wounds.
I think Tony's suggestions are probably the best course of action. The big
open issue for me is the South. I'm sure Andy was pleased to see my
disbandment, but is Jason's lessening of pressure going to cause him to
come West? I may need to keep those fleets down there for a little while.
Ruhr - Mun supported by Kiel looks good. Do you think you can get support
from Tyr for that move?
Erik
Message from France to Italy
No, no attack is imminent. Even if I were to continue down that foolish
path, I don't havwe the strength to do much. I'm hoping that we can
finally deal with Russia up north, and I'm obviously hoping that you'll
keep after Jason. My fleets will be covering Iberia.
Erik
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
Sorry about the delay. New Year's and all.
I am indeed hoping to get some assistance from Tony and perhaps can retake
a center or two. Your dive into Scandanavia was a huge help -- thank you.
What now? Do you cover Munich or hit Berlin? And any idea if Jason will
resume his attack?
Erik
Message from France to Turkey
Jason:
Why the aborted attack on Andy? You saw me steaming in the from the West; I
would think that would be a key time for you to step up the pressure,
especially given your relationship with Russia. Now that you've changed
your mind, I'm kind of in a bind, even taking into account England's
actions.
So now Andy's at 5 and Austria's still in the game. Aren't you a little
worried about blowback?
Erik
Message from Turkey to Germany
Good to hear from you.
I agree that he wants to guarantee Austria, but I'm not sure how soon
I'll be able to move north. If you could work with England to assure
your survival, that would help keep Russia at bay.
jason
Message from Turkey to France
Well, I didn't expect England to get that many centers off of you - had
I known that, I would have kept Greece. I couldn't afford to let you
barrel into the Med, though, and cut me off.
I'm a little worred about AI, but I think I can hold them off, and Italy
can't afford to be at war with both of us. I'll put the squeeze on him a
little this turn, and we should be able to make some progress.
jason
Message from Turkey to England
It's been awful quiet over here this turn. Any action your way?
jason
Message from Germany to England and France
Well we spoke of kie - mun supported byruh and bur.
This woulkd allow Ben to push hol - kie supported by HEL whilst nth moved to nwg and bel to nth.
This would allow pic - bel leaving bur free to support kie - mun.
I have asked the italian for support but he hasnt yet replied.
Let me know on the kie-mun supported by ruh & bur.
If Ben pushes for KIE then kie will probably be destroyed, i am sure russia will go for ber & kie.
Thats why I believe we have to push kie - mun.
tony
Message from Italy to Austria
Philippe,
What can I do for you.
Message from Austria to Italy
> What can I do for you.
Beside help me survive, I don't know ;-) Seriously, I would
appreciate seeing you move Tyr-Boh and have your fleets
put some pressure on Turkey; but I'm open to any plans you
might have.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > What can I do for you.
>
> Beside help me survive, I don't know ;-) Seriously, I would
> appreciate seeing you move Tyr-Boh and have your fleets
> put some pressure on Turkey; but I'm open to any plans you
> might have.
No problem.
Andy
Message from Austria to Germany
> If you guys opt to pick at Russia one sc at a time then support of kie - mun
> would be appreciated.
> I think this time around EFG will be working together. Although Russia can
> retreat to BER an EFG can help AI in the short term. I am sure all three of
> us would prefer Russia to solo than just have us 3 removed. Lets delay that
> option for as long as possible. I can see TYR doing anything else useful
> right now. There is always hope ;-)
I finally heard from Andy, but his response was so curt
that I'm pretty sure that he isn't going to help me like he
indicated.
Good luck to you, but I doubt I'm going to survive.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Austria
With no reply from Russia, Germany that indicate that
it's too early to help Russia solo and Italy that issue
very limited press, it's clear that I'm out of here.
My best guess is that Eric leaked my press to Andy
as part of an IR alliance and that Tony was somehow
made aware of it. He probably thought that a solo
wasn't realistic at the moment and that he was better
off working with Andy to take out Jason.
Anyway, I'm going to issue Vie-Tyr & Tri-Ven and
see where this lead.
Message from Austria to Turkey
Hi Jason,
It seem I'm going to read your comments pretty soon and I hope
it will help me understand you (if it's not the case, please take the
time to slip in what's missing for me to understand).
Also, it's no big surprise and I allready warned you about it in the
past; but prepare yourself for some IR fun.
Good luck to you,
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
Sorry for the long delay. I was busy and then had some ISP problems.
> It seem I haven't much time left. The imbroglio between England &
> France, while good for your situation in the north, has slowed up the
> french invasion of Italy.
Yeah, but I still think it was giving him back Gre that made Italy's position
so strong.
> At the same time, it seem that Jason has
> renewed his alliance with Andy. How else can you explain his leaving
> Greece peacefully and his decision to build an army instead of a fleet?
I have no other good explanation for it.
> Also, unless I'm mistaken, your new army in Warsaw is there to insure
> no southern power mess up your plan and to pick up whatever is left
> from me.
The point was to protect the south. In the choice of War/Mos, War gives more
flexibility for me. It wasn't aimed at you, Germany or Turkey, just seemed
the best spot to cover whatever came up. I really don't consider Bud to be
mine (I can't hold it) and I don't want to see you fall, given the apparent
IT alliance. So whether you want to help me or not, it's good for me to see
you around, which is exactly why I recognized (too late to do any good) that
it was a mistake to take Bud, and why I offered to support Tri-Ser.
> If you accept to keep me around to the end, with my current sc count
> as a minimum, I will spend the rest of the game helping you solo.
Keeping Turkey out of your centers should be easy. Keeping Andy out of your
centers will be more difficult. But it should be doable.
> With 9 sc and the current situation in Europe, your chances of soloing
> are good but still fragile, so it would be a fair deal for both of us.
> You get to improve your odds of soloing and I get to have fun helping
> you along or even share a draw if the solo isn't possible
I'm very much up for this. As I said in my last press, even giving back Bud
is doable.
The question is what makes the most sense to keep you in a strong position?
Tri-Ser should succeed (depending on whether or not Jason is attacking Bud),
but with no unit in Alb, it's harder to hold Ser (if we assume Con-Bul, Ser
retreats to Alb). We could instead have you hold your position, and let me
use Bud to support something into Rum in Spring (which might disband a
Turkish army in the process), and then I could support you (or you could
support me) into Ser in the Fall. The real question is what do you think Andy
will be doing in the meantime? I wouldn't be surprised to see him support
Ser-Tri, but I really don't know. He asked me for support into Vie, and I
told him I'm not planning on moving to Vie (this was before getting your
message offering to work together) so I don't expect Tyl to go to Vie, though
he might if he expects Tri S Vie-Bud.
What's your take? I know the deadline is very close, but I've asked for a
brief extension. We may be able to come to some agreement on best moves
before they are due.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Turkey
Jason,
Mr. Silent finally getting back online and with a small amount of time to
ignore real life and talk Dip.
So what are we looking at doing right now? If I understood your comments, you
will keep A Rum for the Spring and retreat it somewhat (presumably to Bul) in
the Fall, when I support you to Tri. Is this correct? Also, will Rum or Ser
be supporting Bud this move? I would think you could order Rum S Bud and Ser
S ???-Gre, and still be in a position to pick up Tri in Fall.
It would be good for me to know which is happening, because if Philippe moves
Tri-Ser, that might cut support you are counting on. I'd like to know if I
should be working to keep him from ordering something like that in case I can
influence his moves.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
The pace of this game must be boring you to tears. For me, it still seems --
well, not fast, but fast enough -- because of how little time I've had to
spend on it (well, excepting over the holidays, when I had enough time, but
there was no one around to talk to then).
I'm still not inclined to do anything to Vie at this moment. Is there any
reason you can think of that I should? Andything [that's a typo, but I
thought it was funny enough to leave in there] else that we should be talking
about?
Also, do you expect Jason will try to take back Gre?
--- Eric
Message from Russia to France
Erik,
I've been busy and with ISP troubles. How are things going with Tony? He
asked me to help him take Hol when he hadn't heard from you. Are you talking
with him now? What's the plan? I'm not sure if there's anything you need from
me. I'd prefer not to move Den if I don't have to, since I don't know whether
Ben's going to jump north or south.
I'll try to be responsive for the rest of the day today, though I've got
meetings in the afternoon that will take me away for a few hours.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Germany
Tony,
Sorry, been busy and having ISP troubles. How are things going with France? I
got press from him that said working with you was a good idea.
What I'd like to do is not move Den Spring (though I could support you in
Kie) while you and France get Bel for France, then in Fall I can tap Nth (or
Hel) when England's focused on retaking Bel. But that only makes sense if you
and France are working together.
I'll try to be responsive for the rest of the day today, though I've got
meetings in the afternoon that will take me away for a few hours. Let me know
what's going on.
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
> What's your take? I know the deadline is very close, but I've asked for a
> brief extension. We may be able to come to some agreement on best moves
> before they are due.
It's probably too late to discuss how to further your solo
along , so complex plan necessiting close collaboration
will have to wait a bit. I suggest you go with your plan
that may force Jason to disband and see what we can
come up with next turn.
In the mean time, could you unequivocally indicate that
you accept my deal and will do everything you can to
keep me in the game?
Philippe.
P.-S. Small suggestion, what do you think of attacking
Tyr or supporting an austrian attack on Tyr while moving
to Boh to block a retreat that way?
Message from Russia to England
We are both unusually quiet this season. For me, it's entirely due to RL
issues (I've requested a *brief* extension to respond to them), and the lack
of anything to talk about for either of our football teams.
How's things on your end? Obviously I won't be threatening you, but is there
anything we need to coordinate?
Things are hectic as hell over here, and probably will be for the next few
weeks. If and when you notice the decline in the quality of my press (I don't
say quantity, because that's already low!) just keep that in mind.
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
> We are both unusually quiet this season.
I'm about to run out - yes, I've been quiet in all my games; I think I am
still affected by the holidays.
I guess you guys won't be getting Denny Green, after all. . .
Ben
Message from Russia to Austria
> In the mean time, could you unequivocally indicate that
> you accept my deal and will do everything you can to
> keep me in the game?
Absolutely. While there may be occasional times that I want to look peaceful
towards Jason or Andy to try to break up IT, I *absolutely* want to keep you
in the game. In my view, if I were to get close to a solo, any two centers
you hold would not be the difference (meaning, there would be no need to
eliminate you) and if I don't and we have a draw, then it doesn't matter how
many remaining powers there are, and I trust you more than either Andy or
Jason anyway, so would prefer that you be one of the ones (or the only one)
to remain should we end up in a draw position.
The attack on Tri suggestion is *very* intriguing. Would you want me to end
up in Boh? The two possibilities are Tri-Tyl, Vie-Boh/Sil-Boh (bounce) or
Vie-Tyl, Sil-Boh. I think the latter makes more sense. You would probably
want to move Tri-Ser to either cut support for Rum-Bud, and if Jason moves
Ser-Bud it gives you Ser and we get a guaranteed attack on Bud in the Fall
(Tri/Ser/Vie/Gal all available to attack it).
So at the risk of doing something stupid because I've failed to think it
through, I think it sounds like a great idea. (I've spent all of 2 minutes
thinking it over without looking at a map, so there may be flaws!)
Do you want to try this? Specifically, Vie-Tyl, Tri-Ser, Sil-Boh and Mun S
Vie-Tyl? Do you see any downsides I'm overlooking? Vie would end up vacant,
but unthreatened, and we'd have the ability to basically assure Ser for one
or the other of us in Fall unless Jason successfully takes Bud, right?
--- Eric
Message from Russia to England
> I'm about to run out - yes, I've been quiet in all my games; I think I
> am still affected by the holidays.
For me it's work (the part that won't let up for quite a while), an ISP
problem (only for a day or less, and seems fixed now) and the failure to
recall that we have three family birthdays in early January (all in separate
branches of the family), which makes it as busy as the holidays, jsut without
all the time off.
> I guess you guys won't be getting Denny Green, after all. . .
I haven't even kept track of all the ones we haven't gotten. :)
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
> Absolutely. While there may be occasional times that I want to look peaceful
> towards Jason or Andy to try to break up IT, I *absolutely* want to keep you
> in the game. In my view, if I were to get close to a solo, any two centers
> you hold would not be the difference (meaning, there would be no need to
> eliminate you) and if I don't and we have a draw, then it doesn't matter how
> many remaining powers there are, and I trust you more than either Andy or
> Jason anyway, so would prefer that you be one of the ones (or the only one)
> to remain should we end up in a draw position.
Thanks, I'm obviously not asking you to make it
obvious you are going for the solo.
> The attack on Tri suggestion is *very* intriguing. Would you want me to end
> up in Boh? The two possibilities are Tri-Tyl, Vie-Boh/Sil-Boh (bounce) or
> Vie-Tyl, Sil-Boh. I think the latter makes more sense. You would probably
> want to move Tri-Ser to either cut support for Rum-Bud, and if Jason moves
> Ser-Bud it gives you Ser and we get a guaranteed attack on Bud in the Fall
> (Tri/Ser/Vie/Gal all available to attack it).
>
> So at the risk of doing something stupid because I've failed to think it
> through, I think it sounds like a great idea. (I've spent all of 2 minutes
> thinking it over without looking at a map, so there may be flaws!)
>
> Do you want to try this? Specifically, Vie-Tyl, Tri-Ser, Sil-Boh and Mun S
> Vie-Tyl? Do you see any downsides I'm overlooking? Vie would end up vacant,
> but unthreatened, and we'd have the ability to basically assure Ser for one
> or the other of us in Fall unless Jason successfully takes Bud, right?
Glad that you are interested by my suggestion. Personaly,
I see two problems: a support from Mun risk getting cut
as you are likely to get attacked & the italian army in Tus
will probably move to Ven, so it might be preferable to
bounce it if we want Tri to be able to support an attack on
Ser in the fall. So it's no surprise that my preference go to
Mun-Tyr supported by Vie with Sil-Boh & Tri-Ven, but
your attack on Rum isn't as likely to succeed this way.
What's your take on this?
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
> Glad that you are interested by my suggestion. Personaly,
> I see two problems: a support from Mun risk getting cut
> as you are likely to get attacked & the italian army in Tus
> will probably move to Ven, so it might be preferable to
> bounce it if we want Tri to be able to support an attack on
> Ser in the fall. So it's no surprise that my preference go to
> Mun-Tyr supported by Vie with Sil-Boh & Tri-Ven, but
> your attack on Rum isn't as likely to succeed this way.
I'm about to leave for those meetings, but here's my thoughts:
You are correct, if Mun is cut, we're screwed, otherwise I like my idea a lot
because it keeps things firmer in the north. Are you hearing anything that
indicates that Mun will be cut?
The problem with Mun-Tyl, Sil-Boh is that it makes it very likely that we
(well, I) end up down one or two in the north. If I start disbanding, then IT
will gain momentum quickly. If Andy has Ven but you have Tyl, the a supported
move to Ser should still succeed, and you can bounce Ven with Tyl-Tri.
So the question comes down to whether or not we expect that Mun will get
tapped. Even if it does I think we have enough units (given A Rum being gone)
to force things in the Fall, but again, I'm doing this in my head.
Another more freakish idea is Mun-Tyl, Sil-Mun, Vie-Boh, Tri S Mun-Tyl,
Bud-Vie and try to force Jason from Ser or Bud in the Fall. Hmm. maybe not so
good.
Think about it and I'll ponder it and let me know what you'd like. I'll be
back in the office in around 3 hours. I'm not sure what timezone you are in,
so if three hours is a burden for you, let me know for when I return.
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
Eric,
I don't know if he's deluding himself, but Tony seem to think that
EFG will all work together and even though EFG collaboration
doesn't seem very likely to me, I suspect that Mun will at least get
attacked by him. When I mentionned an austrian attack of Tyr, I
meant one supported by myself; but the problem is probable
interference from Jason.
If you think of a solution, let me know when you come out of your
meeting and I will do the same (I'm on the eastern time zone and
don't usually deal with email in the evening but will try to be more
available tonight)
Philippe
Message from Germany to Russia
Hi Erik, wow this time difference is going to cause a problem.
I have heared from France and he is going after Belgium.
I am not sure what you meant with DEN Spring. I will send a 3 way press, I
hope its not to late. FG have agreed to attack BEL/HOL. I will be moving
KIE - HOL supported by RUH he will be attacking BEL with both units.
Please leave BER empty till fall. If he succeeds in attacking KIE (as I am
not sure if you will be tapping HEL) then I will need somehwere to retreat
to if he uses NTH to support HOL. At least BEL or HOL will fall.
If you can tap HEL please. Maybe mun - bur and sil - mun may lead to an
interesting situation!!!
Message from Germany to France
Russia thinks that you and I will be attacking BEL/HOL. I will send a press
stating just that. Ignore it.
Please support KIE - MUN.
Message from Germany to Germany
It's nearing the deadline and I still have no idea what to do. I would like
to go out with a bang or survive a little longer.
Message from Germany to France and Russia
Just to reconfirm. I will be moving KIE - HOL supported by RUH. France will
be attacking BEL. The reason I am using KIE to attack with is that England
surely will attack KIE no matter what. Even if it is just with one unit.
Message from England to France and Germany
Gentlemen -
Ok, Tony's last press is fine with me; that's what I'll do unless I hear
otherwise from one of you.
I have out of town company & will have only *limited* access until the
deadline.
Erik as long as the East is uncertain and Andy is not being *attacked* from
that side you should fear he will come for you.
Do as you wish with your fleets - I am leaving MAO to go northward, as I
wrote you privately - but take care not to put them out of position. If
you dislodge MAO, I will understand; just think about what the board will
look like with your fleets there & there.
I will check press again before I put in my orders - sorry to be so hasty
on deadline day.
Ben
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
Can I get a support to Munich.
Message from Italy to Germany
Tony,
Can I get a support to Munich...
If you bounce with him in Berlin, it pops the unit there and you can have
it back in the Fall as I will move east.
Andy
Message from Germany to Italy
Hi Andy,
>>If you bounce with him in Berlin, it pops the unit there and you can have
it back in the Fall as I will move east.>>
If I read this correctly you want me to move kie - ber and have ruh support
tyr to mun?
I am sure he would be able to retreat to boh and you will be stuck in mun.
It is very near the deadline and as far as I know/believe france should be
supporting kie - mun. I was hoping that ai could act together but that has
been a problem all along. Due no doubt to proper reasoning between the two
of you. Not only my own shortcoming have created the situation I am in but
also bad luck with developments around me.
It's a little late to talk to France. To tell you the truth I have no idea
what to do. I think Ben is attacking KIE at my request so KIE would be
useless for any support. This would only leave RUH tosupport you in. I think
Russia may just push WAR - PRU and have SIL support MUN just to be safe.
I believe it's curtains down for GIA. Looking at it rationaly I would prefer
someone to solo if I am not to be in any draw which is the case at this
moment in time unless something miraculous happens.
I could lie to you and say YES I will support you in, At least this way I am
sure MUN is cut at the least.
I truly do not know what to do. I even suggested that Russia push mun - bur
and sil - mun. I doubt he will but you never know. Something strange may
happen and MUN may be left empty (if I lie to you and say yes and you bounce
with sil).
We still have a few hours and it is two hours before I have to go to bed.
What is the situation with Austria?
I still think that kie - mun supported by ruh, tyr, bur is the best way to
go. Especially if Ben pushes for kie.
This gives us a shot at ber in the fall. If Austria could be convinced to
move to BOH then we are sure to destroy mun. Any Russian loss is a gain for
EFAGI.
I only think tyr - mun supported by ruh and kie - ber has little hope. Or
did you mean something else when you said that I should pop into ber?
tony
Message from Russia to Austria
Hey Philippe. As noted, my concern about moving Mun is that if I lose it I
won't get it back. If EFG really are united, then I'm going to die anyway, so
it hardly matters, but I agree it seems unlikely.
I'm willing to order support to Tyl, and I'm even willing to use Sil in some
way to help you (such as Sil-Boh), even though I think that's a bad move for
me. But it just seems too problematic to move Mun-Tyl.
The other option is to hold off until Fall. I should be able to attack Boh
and Tyl in Fall, and we'll see what the northern powers bring to bear against
me quickly enough to know if we think Mun's support is going to be cut then.
For now I'll put in more defensive orders in the north, but keep sending me
comments if you think that's a bad idea. Even if we end up going passive I'm
still happy to work with you in the Fall.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Germany
>
> >>If you bounce with him in Berlin, it pops the unit there and you can have
> it back in the Fall as I will move east.>>
>
> If I read this correctly you want me to move kie - ber and have ruh support
> tyr to mun?
> I am sure he would be able to retreat to boh and you will be stuck in mun.
> It is very near the deadline and as far as I know/believe france should be
> supporting kie - mun. I was hoping that ai could act together but that has
> been a problem all along. Due no doubt to proper reasoning between the two
> of you. Not only my own shortcoming have created the situation I am in but
> also bad luck with developments around me.
Austria and I have been working together for a year. And his only request
is that I move from Tyrolia, which is why I am looking at Munich. He wants
me to go to Bohemia.
Which I really dont have a problem doing.
> I believe it's curtains down for GIA. Looking at it rationaly I would prefer
> someone to solo if I am not to be in any draw which is the case at this
> moment in time unless something miraculous happens.
>
I still think that the Turk can be turned.
> I only think tyr - mun supported by ruh and kie - ber has little hope. Or
> did you mean something else when you said that I should pop into ber?
No...you had it right.
If I move to Boh, he retreats to Tyrolia....
Message from Germany to Russia
Well so far Italy has asked for support into MUN. I have told him France is
supporting me in and that Ben is going for KIE. Not that all this helps us
in HOL. I am looking forward to the RT surprise down south ;-)
Message from Germany to Italy
> If I move to Boh, he retreats to Tyrolia....>
Moving to boh would be pointless, that is why I was hoping Austria would
move there.
Strange Austria said that he hadnt spoken to you for some time and had no
idea what you were doing.
I think our only bet is to work together with efgai. It's a long shot buy I
do believe Ben will be attacking KIE and that France will be supporting
KIE - MUN. If we need to dent Russia a bit then I hope you see that although
we only tickle him we at least send a signle that we mean business. I will
be the first to exit no doubt about that.
I have spoken to the Turk and I think we both agree that he is safe from a
stab until ber/vie are captured.
If he is willing to go for BUD now in conjunction with Austira then great.
I think though that we will be seeing ser - gre, rum - ser supported by bud
and gre s ser - gre.If the Turk does turn this round then Austria is
doomned. But at least you and the Turk would be able to expand and stop the
russian onslaught.
If this is the case then surely kie - mun supported by tyr along with tus -
ven is the way to go.
We may even see ser - alb, rum - ser supported by bud, con - bul, bla - con,
eas - ion supported by aeg.
Message from Germany to Germany
Well I think I have proven to myself that I have lost all touch with this
game. I guess running 26 games at once is a little to much. I like the
concept of a gallery and the commentation on the game. I promise next time I
sign up to such a game I will give it the attention the game and the
observers deserve. It has been a weird game but I will explain this in the
EOG.
I still believe that RT are working strongly together. I am expecting Russia
to push for BOH and PRU. BUD may retreat to GAL and the UKR will move to
RUM.
Either I have lost it completely or my eyes have only just opened up to the
developments around the board.
I am of no longer use to Russia and my money is still on him soloing. I
expect to be removed by Russia by the fall unless something unexpected
happens. I have ordered kie - mun supported by ruh. Why? well there is not
much else I can do.
The Italian offer went over my head, if EF stick to what they say then the
chance of italy succeeding are very remote to say the least. I could attack
Holland from kie supported by ryh but that I am sure would bounce.
I cant blame Ben for not going north I can only applaud Russia for
convincing him otherwise. If only, if only, if only we had gone ahead with
the western alliance at the beginning as planned ;-)
Message from Austria to Russia
> Hey Philippe. As noted, my concern about moving Mun is that if I lose it I
> won't get it back. If EFG really are united, then I'm going to die anyway, so
> it hardly matters, but I agree it seems unlikely.
>
> I'm willing to order support to Tyl, and I'm even willing to use Sil in some
> way to help you (such as Sil-Boh), even though I think that's a bad move for
> me. But it just seems too problematic to move Mun-Tyl.
>
> The other option is to hold off until Fall. I should be able to attack Boh
> and Tyl in Fall, and we'll see what the northern powers bring to bear against
> me quickly enough to know if we think Mun's support is going to be cut then.
>
> For now I'll put in more defensive orders in the north, but keep sending me
> comments if you think that's a bad idea. Even if we end up going passive I'm
> still happy to work with you in the Fall.
OK. By the way, what about leaving Rum free to wander
to Gal only to get kill off in the fall? You only need to use
Stp to cover War from Lvn or Mos, while using War in
Pru or Sil. This would allow you to press on your attack
against Germany, especially if Andy go for Boh like I
requested in the past.
I suppose that England would need some time to reposition
his units against you, wich should allow you to setup a more
effective defence in time. Anyway, it's your call, but using
Stp in the middle to get a jump on things seem to be a good
idea (with a fleet in Bal, you would even be able to convoy
Lvn to the front if Jason foil your plan regarding Rum).
Philippe.
P.-S. Supporting me from Mun when it's nearly certain your
support would be cut isn't a good idea. If we don't have
enough time to work out a good plan, you might as well do
your own thing and don't let on the fact that I want to help
you solo.
Message from France to Italy
Andy:
> Can I get a support to Munich.
>
That would kind of conflict with another order that I've promised. If your
goal, apart from center aquisition, is to take down Russia a peg, don't
worry -- it's in the works.
Also, Jason may flip courses again. He's been vague, but with me
withdrawing from the Med, I don't think he sees a need to keep you healthy
any more. Just an FYI (since I'd prefer to see you deal with him than deal
with me).
Erik
Message from France to Russia
Eric:
The plan is hazy. I'm trying to get control of Belgium while protecting Spa
/ Por, and England's been playing nice, but who knows. Andy asked for
support into Munich. Beyond that, I'm not sure. You could end up losing
Munich, so I'd concentrate on taking Berlin. It's more defensible, if you
know what I mean.
Jason said he's resuming a plan against AI, but he's vague as ever.
Erik
Message from France to England and Germany
Okay, I'll support Munich and go for Bel. Ben, my fleets will be taking
somewhat defensive action without trying to stray too far from Andy. Hope
you understand. We'll say where things stand next turn down south. I think
I'll be okay playing D for a turn with him.
Erik
Message from Italy to Germany
Tony,
You make several statements here that make no sense at all.
> > If I move to Boh, he retreats to Tyrolia....>
>
> Moving to boh would be pointless, that is why I was hoping Austria would
> move there.
Assuming that the Turk doesnt support BUD. This is his only chance to take
it.
> Strange Austria said that he hadnt spoken to you for some time and had no
> idea what you were doing.
We didnt speak alot, but he told me what he wanted.
> I think our only bet is to work together with efgai. It's a long shot buy I
> do believe Ben will be attacking KIE and that France will be supporting
> KIE - MUN. If we need to dent Russia a bit then I hope you see that although
> we only tickle him we at least send a signle that we mean business. I will
> be the first to exit no doubt about that.
I have no problem with working together.
>
> I have spoken to the Turk and I think we both agree that he is safe from a
> stab until ber/vie are captured.
> If he is willing to go for BUD now in conjunction with Austira then great.
Well...he had that option last season and supported it.
> I think though that we will be seeing ser - gre, rum - ser supported by bud
> and gre s ser - gre.If the Turk does turn this round then Austria is
> doomned.
I told him very plainly that if he attacked Greece with support, all bets
were off and I would help the Russian take his dots.
But at least you and the Turk would be able to expand and stop the
> russian onslaught.
If the Turk is attacking me, I am not going to get ANYTHING in the
balkans.
> If this is the case then surely kie - mun supported by tyr along with tus -
> ven is the way to go.
Well...TUS - VEN is going to totally freak out the Austrian, but I might
do this anyway.
> We may even see ser - alb, rum - ser supported by bud, con - bul, bla - con,
> eas - ion supported by aeg.
We shall see, if he makes an agressive move in my direction I will watch
the French kill me from behind before he gets anything other than Greece.
Message from Italy to France
> Andy:
>
> > Can I get a support to Munich.
> >
>
> That would kind of conflict with another order that I've promised. If your
> goal, apart from center aquisition, is to take down Russia a peg, don't
> worry -- it's in the works.
So...you are supporting Kiel to Munich. If you are, I will order Tyrolia
to support it as well.
> Also, Jason may flip courses again. He's been vague, but with me
> withdrawing from the Med, I don't think he sees a need to keep you healthy
> any more. Just an FYI (since I'd prefer to see you deal with him than deal
> with me).
I know...he has been wayyyyyyy too quiet.
Message from Italy to Germany
Tony,
I just heard from the French. He is supporting you to Munich, I will too.
Andy
Message from France to Italy
>
> So...you are supporting Kiel to Munich. If you are, I will order Tyrolia
> to support it as well.
Bingo. I'd rather have a 2-center Tony than a 10-center Eric, and keeping
Tony around gives me a *little* leverage on Ben.
Erik
Message from Germany to Italy
Good to hear Andy. Sorry if I sounded garblish. It's late and I am dutch. At
least I was up front when I said I believe dfrance would be supporting me
and that I therefore found it a little late to change my moves.
Yes, france just sent me a press staing he would be supporting me. I lose
KIE and go to one sc but where there is life there is hope.
Message from Russia to Austria
Philippe,
I realize it's probably too late to do this, but if you are still up for the
moves you suggested, I'm willing to give it a try. That would be Mun-Tyl,
Sil-Boh, etc.
The problem is we both need to be online around the same time to make it
work, and it'll only work if F or T stays late long enough.
I'll try to check in tomorrow AM to see if we can work things out. Sorry it
took me so long to come around to your way of thinking. It would have been
better to have decided this when we were both online today, but I was too
focused on what was happening at the office to really see the big picture (I
could picture the individual moves we discussed, but not the overall board).
I hope you're fast asleep by now, and don't expect to see a response from you
until I wake up. If it's too late, it's too late. Clearly that'd be my fault
in any case.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Russia
More blatherings in case anyone cares.
I'm finding it really hard to pay much attention to the game at the moment,
so failed to realize that Philippe's moves are actually pretty good for me.
They leave me in a decent position to negotiate with everyone. Attacking
Jason is unlikely to be useful for more than about a center anyway (as I
argued to him), and would ensure England's survival (EI vs. F having a freer
hand with T distracted), so there are lots of reasons it's bad for me. I wish
I had picked up on that earlier.
If Erik is as late as normal, I may be able to get things worked out with
Philippe. I do think that Tony is likely to work with E, F or both against
me, but if he does I'm in bad shape whether I try to defend or not, and same
with T in the south. So I think I should go for the more bold move and less
risky diplomatic maneuver of attacking Italy if I can. Gonna be hard to sleep
thinking about that though.... Maybe I should just go check my work email
again -- that'll give me something better to worry about. :)
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Italy
Gentle Commentators....
The fact that the French have been LATE every turn this game is annoying
as hell to me....and probably several other people.
I think that players that are LATE every turn should go to a special kind
of hell....the one resevered for people who talk in theatres.
Actually...proper retribution would be for his wife/girlfriend/SO to be
late every month this way, so that he can go on that adrenaline ride on a
regular basis.
Eric Goodman mentioned that the pace of this game is probably drving me
out of my mind....that is an understatement. I am a FtF player, and those
of you that play FtF will understand this reference; I am the guy that
wants to wind down turns to 10 minutes in 04'
Hope you all had a great holiday
Andy
Message from Austria to Russia
> I realize it's probably too late to do this, but if you are still up for the
> moves you suggested, I'm willing to give it a try. That would be Mun-Tyl,
> Sil-Boh, etc.
>
> The problem is we both need to be online around the same time to make it
> work, and it'll only work if F or T stays late long enough.
>
> I'll try to check in tomorrow AM to see if we can work things out. Sorry it
> took me so long to come around to your way of thinking. It would have been
> better to have decided this when we were both online today, but I was too
> focused on what was happening at the office to really see the big picture (I
> could picture the individual moves we discussed, but not the overall board).
>
> I hope you're fast asleep by now, and don't expect to see a response from you
> until I wake up. If it's too late, it's too late. Clearly that'd be my fault
> in any case.
>
> --- Eric
Well, I'm now up and ready to send in any orders you
might wish me to enter. Currently, I have Vie-Tyr &
Tri-Ven as a way to temporize while protecting Tri to
preserve it's use against Ser in the fall.
Let me know what you want me to enter,
Philippe
Message from Russia to Austria
> Well, I'm now up and ready to send in any orders you
> might wish me to enter. Currently, I have Vie-Tyr &
> Tri-Ven as a way to temporize while protecting Tri to
> preserve it's use against Ser in the fall.
Yeah, I figured that was your best bet.
> Let me know what you want me to enter,
What I'm thinking is your suggestion full out:
Mun-Tyl
Sil-Boh
Vie S Mun-Tyl
Tri-Ven (or Tri-Ser)
Does this still sound good to you?
I'll be on the computer for the next hour at least -- checking for mail every
10-15 minutes. I can't tell when you connected, but it looks like it was at
about 7:00 AM my time, which is about an hour ago.
There's a good chance I'll get destroyed by these moves if there really is an
EFG and Turkey really wants Bud there's nothing I can do to slow either. So I
may as well hope for the best.
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
> What I'm thinking is your suggestion full out:
>
> Mun-Tyl
> Sil-Boh
> Vie S Mun-Tyl
> Tri-Ven (or Tri-Ser)
>
> Does this still sound good to you?
>
> I'll be on the computer for the next hour at least -- checking for mail every
> 10-15 minutes. I can't tell when you connected, but it looks like it was at
> about 7:00 AM my time, which is about an hour ago.
>
> There's a good chance I'll get destroyed by these moves if there really is an
> EFG and Turkey really wants Bud there's nothing I can do to slow either. So I
> may as well hope for the best.
Yes, I'm changing Vie-Tyr for Vie s Mun-Tyr. I thought about letting
Tus-Ven go through, but if Ser support Tyr-Tri, we would be in a
dangerous position next fall. Still, if you think Tri-Ser is worth the risk,
just let me know and I will change it as well
Philippe
Message from Russia to England
Hey Ben,
So now that we're in our customary secondary-negoatiation period, how are
things? I'm real curious what your take on the west is. Since neither of us
can talk to France anymore, I'm real curious what you are hearing about
things over there. I've heard very vague stuff that ranges from really good
for me to really bad for me.
From your POV it seems the real question is what will F and G each do and do
you need to defend against them (whether or not you cooperate with them). You
are unusually quiet this season (though so am I, so that's not a complaint),
which makes me nervous, but with France's usual silence I don't know how to
interpret it. I will say this: When you told me a season or two ago that Erik
was hard to work with because he never writes, I didn't believe you. I
thought it was just a line to make me feel good. I guess I should have
thought back to c1, where that was his explicit plan. :)
Anyway, this message isn't really meant to try to convince you of anything,
but now that I have a few minutes to breathe, I wanted to check in and get
your read on things.
Take care, happy new year, enjoy the games today and "Go <insert name of
favorite remaining team here>!"
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Austria
Okay, the die is cast (odd phrase for a dice-less game I guess).
I've got Sil-Boh and Mun-Tyl in place. If you are right about the north,
Mun-Tyl may bounce (if Andy supports someone) but it still seems worth the
attempt to me.
Anything you need from Bud? I could order support for Tri-Ser, but there's an
outside chance Turkey may be hoping for me to support him to Tri in Fall. If
that's the case, it's best that I not look aggressive to him in Spring. Hard
to say, because I've gotten no press from him at all. But in any case,
Tri-Ven is fine by me. I could order Bud-Ser in case, that just seems to go
against the idea of not attacking Jason in Spring. Hmm. I think I'll order
Bud-Ser anyway. That way you are guaranteed keeping Tri and Ven whatever
orders may come up. And with no supports, Bud H is no safer. Sound
reasonable?
And what are you doing monitoring the computer at noon? :) Is it just piling
snow there, or is this a common background activity for you?
--- Eric
Message from Austria to Russia
> Okay, the die is cast (odd phrase for a dice-less game I guess).
Let see what happen.
> I've got Sil-Boh and Mun-Tyl in place. If you are right about the north,
> Mun-Tyl may bounce (if Andy supports someone) but it still seems worth the
> attempt to me.
I figure that you meant someone supporting Andy in Mun,
but I doubt it's the way they want to play it.
> Anything you need from Bud? I could order support for Tri-Ser, but there's an
> outside chance Turkey may be hoping for me to support him to Tri in Fall. If
> that's the case, it's best that I not look aggressive to him in Spring. Hard
> to say, because I've gotten no press from him at all. But in any case,
> Tri-Ven is fine by me. I could order Bud-Ser in case, that just seems to go
> against the idea of not attacking Jason in Spring. Hmm. I think I'll order
> Bud-Ser anyway. That way you are guaranteed keeping Tri and Ven whatever
> orders may come up. And with no supports, Bud H is no safer. Sound
> reasonable?
It's your call, but in your place I would order Bud-Ser,
Sev-Rum supported by Ukr. You can sell it as a def.
moves. Afterall, it's not going to succeed unless he try
attacking you.
> And what are you doing monitoring the computer at noon? :) Is it just piling
> snow there, or is this a common background activity for you?
I'm waiting for news from friend via the internet regarding
our get-together later on.
Philippe
Message from Austria to Austria
While it's possible that Eric's excuses are true, I still
believe that he opted for an IR; but I'm going to go
along as it's my best shot at being part of a draw.
Message from Russia to Austria
> I figure that you meant someone supporting Andy in Mun,
> but I doubt it's the way they want to play it.
Whoops! Yes, that is what I meant.
> It's your call, but in your place I would order Bud-Ser,
> Sev-Rum supported by Ukr. You can sell it as a def.
> moves. After all, it's not going to succeed unless he try
> attacking you.
I'm definitely thinking about it, and may go that way. I had that order in
earlier. It's one I keep changing whenever I log in (Sev H vs. Sev-Rum with
Ukr supporting either one).
> I'm waiting for news from friend via the internet regarding
> our get-together later on.
Well, I hope you both have fun. Have a good weekend, and good luck with the
moves!
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> So now that we're in our customary secondary-negoatiation period, how are
> things? I'm real curious what your take on the west is. Since neither of
us
> can talk to France anymore, I'm real curious what you are hearing about
> things over there. I've heard very vague stuff that ranges from really
good
> for me to really bad for me.
I have no idea what's going on in the west. Or what's going on in the
east. Or the south. I suspect this does not help you. But either Turkey
will attack you or he won't, and either France will attack Italy or he
won't, and god only knows what Germany will do. Sometimes I've been right
so far, sometimes I've been wrong, but I've always had a sense of what was
coming. Like I said, sometimes wrong, but I always had a sense. Now I am
guessing.
This game has been, now that I think about it, pretty unstable, which is
fun. More fun if you're winning, which I'm not. . . :o(
From your POV it seems the real question is what will F and G each do and
do
> you need to defend against them (whether or not you cooperate with them).
You
> are unusually quiet this season (though so am I, so that's not a
complaint),
I'm sorry about that. I've been quiet in my 2 other full press games, too.
I've had to deal with an ugly situation in a game I am gm'ing, and that's
consumed the little time I've had for Dip this past week.
> which makes me nervous, but with France's usual silence I don't know how
to
> interpret it. I will say this: When you told me a season or two ago that
Erik
> was hard to work with because he never writes, I didn't believe you. I
> thought it was just a line to make me feel good. I guess I should have
> thought back to c1, where that was his explicit plan. :)
Yes, I remember. Of course, then he went on to write rarely anyway. . .
> Anyway, this message isn't really meant to try to convince you of
anything,
> but now that I have a few minutes to breathe, I wanted to check in and get
> your read on things.
I have no idea what will happen anywhere. Probably related to the fact
that I haven't been writing as much as I am accustomed to.
> Take care, happy new year, enjoy the games today and "Go <insert name of
> favorite remaining team here>!"
None, really. No doubt the gallery is relieved. . .
Ben
Message from Turkey to Austria
My apologies at the lateness - it's been a busy few days.
Thanks for the IR warning.
jason
Message from Turkey to Russia
Looks like I'm the more silent. :-)
I'll get back to you on the Fall right after these moves.
jason
Austria: Army Trieste → Venice (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Russian Army Munich → Tyrolia
England: Fleet Belgium → North Sea
England: Fleet Helgoland Bight SUPPORT Fleet Holland → Kiel
England: Fleet Holland → Kiel
England: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean → North Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet North Sea → Skagerrak
France: Fleet Brest → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Picardy → Belgium
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon HOLD
France: Army Picardy → Belgium
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Portugal
Germany: Army Kiel → Munich
Germany: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Kiel → Munich
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Italy: Army Tuscany → Venice (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT German Army Kiel → Munich (*dislodged*)
Italy: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Budapest → Serbia (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Denmark HOLD
Russia: Army Munich → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Silesia → Bohemia
Russia: Army St Petersburg HOLD
Russia: Army Sweden SUPPORT Fleet Denmark
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Fleet Sevastopol → Rumania
Russia: Army Warsaw → Silesia
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Constantinople → Bulgaria
Turkey: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Army Serbia → Trieste (*bounce*)
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