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Message from England to France and Italy
Andy -
I hope you do not mind me copying Erik here:
> That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send
> it elsewhere and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
I agree. He suspects I'm working with Erik & is trying to split us.
Ben
Message from Italy to England and France
> I hope you do not mind me copying Erik here:
> > That press that Tony sent, that looks like he meant to send
> > it elsewhere and *accidentily* broadcast it. I a load of crap.
>
> I agree. He suspects I'm working with Erik & is trying to split us.
Thank you
Lets smack our opponents around now.
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
You bring up a couple of very good points on me trusting you more.
> I don't see an obvious way for us to cooperate directly at the moment. I
> will certainly be moving north, unless AT break up. Don't get me wrong -- I
> was very happy to see you take Gre. All I was saying was had I known it was
> coming I would have bounced Bla, which would have given us both better
> negotiating leverage with Turkey against Philippe.
Well...I got the Turk to build an army rather than a fleet, so if I want
to move on him, I can.
> The point was to get you thinking that in the future it might actually be
> useful to coordinate planning, because there is still no incentive for me
> to do anything that would inhibit you from successfully attacking AT.
True......what are you thinking. I have a whole bunch of options here.
> What can I do (moves or negotiation) to help you be effective against one
> or the other of them? Unless France makes a surprise move, I won't be
> making any progress towards you on the board.
I think the French actually do want to smack around the German, which is a
good thing, because the English want to as well.
And having Tony boxed in tightly is a very good thing.
Andy
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
My office network has been on the fritz today - I've drafted you a note & it was eaten. Much worse - I drafted a note to Russia which I then couldn't send until it was too late, after the builds. I think (hope) despite the STP build, Russia can be persuaded to leave NWY English and instead either defend himself from AT or push Germany, depending on what becomes of AT.
Do you see AT lasting the year?
Concerning French plans: If I told you, don't be paranoid, would it help? I didn't think so.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> Message from benjamin.harris@mindspring.com as England to
Italy in 'c2':
>
> Andy -
> My office network has been on the fritz today - I've drafted you a note
& it was eaten. Much worse - I drafted a note to Russia which I then
couldn't send until it was too late, after the builds. I think (hope)
despite the STP build, Russia can be persuaded to leave NWY English and
instead either defend himself from AT or push Germany, depending on what
becomes of AT.
I think I can help with this. Russia just doesnt want you coming over the
top.
> Do you see AT lasting the year?
I hope not....getting him to build that Army was a big step towards it
falling apart.
> Concerning French plans: If I told you, don't be paranoid, would it
help? I didn't think so.
Now that I have seen the builds, I am MUCH more relieved.
Erik and I have a pretty significant history.
Message from Russia to Italy
>Well...I got the Turk to build an army rather than a fleet, so if I want
>to move on him, I can.
Yes. Very impressive!
> > The point was to get you thinking that in the future it might actually be
> > useful to coordinate planning, because there is still no incentive for me
> > to do anything that would inhibit you from successfully attacking AT.
>
>True......what are you thinking. I have a whole bunch of options here.
I'm thinking that you have a bunch of options. My favorites involve A
or T losing centers. Just reading the board, given the position it
would be best for me personally if you either got Turkey to attack
Austria with you, or if that fails if you attacked Turkey straight
out.
>I think the French actually do want to smack around the German, which is a
>good thing, because the English want to as well.
>
>And having Tony boxed in tightly is a very good thing.
Well, I imagine my build may distract him some, but I'm hoping not
too much. A StP makes me a better target for Austria, but hopefully
that will make Jason see trying to split my dots with Austria as less
tempting.
--- Eric
Message from Turkey to Italy
I appreciate your concern. Hopefully, he'll go to Gal in the spring. If
not, I'll know for certain.
jason
Message from Master to all
Players,
Please keep in mind that if you'd like to share your plans, strategy
and whatnot with the commentators, you can do that by sending press to
yourself. That way the commentators will see your comments, but other
players will not. If you send "press to o", anyone can see your
comments by requesting a history of the game. If you send "press to
m", I will see your comments but the commentators will not.
You are not required to share information with the commentators, but
you are encouraged to do so.
Greg, GM
C2
Message from Austria to Italy
> Currently my options are attacking you, which I sincerely want to not do.
> or
> Attack Turkey, which I have to set up a bit.
>
> France is not an option right now.....
Glad to see you really wish to pursue peace with me.
Should I expect you to follow up with the Lepanto?
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
> > Currently my options are attacking you, which I sincerely want to not do.
> > or
> > Attack Turkey, which I have to set up a bit.
> >
> > France is not an option right now.....
>
> Glad to see you really wish to pursue peace with me.
> Should I expect you to follow up with the Lepanto?
Not a standard one, but something.
Message from Austria to Italy
> Not a standard one, but something.
However you want to do it, A Gre is
still moving out I hope.
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > Not a standard one, but something.
>
> However you want to do it, A Gre is
> still moving out I hope.
Not neccesarily in the spring, but yes it is moving out and not attacking
or infringing on you.
Andy
Message from Austria to Italy
> Not neccesarily in the spring, but yes it is moving out and not attacking
> or infringing on you.
OK. That's all I need to know about it for the moment.
Any interesting rumours floating about?
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> > Not neccesarily in the spring, but yes it is moving out and not attacking
> > or infringing on you.
>
> OK. That's all I need to know about it for the moment.
>
> Any interesting rumours floating about?
Rumor is that France is going to to attack you. I dont believe it, I think
Tony is the target of that affection, but I heard from England that Tony
is trying to talk him into attacking you.
In that *anyone but me* scramble mode.
Message from Austria to Italy
> Rumor is that France is going to to attack you. I dont believe it, I think
> Tony is the target of that affection, but I heard from England that Tony
> is trying to talk him into attacking you.
>
> In that *anyone but me* scramble mode.
Then I really hope France has stopped being Tony's puppet.
What a great alliance of central power we have here! You
went after me while Tony tried to use France against you,
and he's possibly doing it again against me.
If this keep degenerating, we will all make very interesting
targets for the rest of the board.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Italy
Right now, I have a choice to make.
Continue attacking Austria or move on Turkey.
Turkey has definitely opened the door.
Do I put the fleet in ION in ADR or AEG
Lots of stuff up in the air. And everyone is way too quiet
Message from Italy to Austria
> Then I really hope France has stopped being Tony's puppet.
> What a great alliance of central power we have here! You
> went after me while Tony tried to use France against you,
> and he's possibly doing it again against me.
Yes....Tony is just that way.
> If this keep degenerating, we will all make very interesting
> targets for the rest of the board.
I agree. That is why I am getting out of your way.
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
I don't have your last press with me so don't remember how we left
things. Looking at the board, it is clear that if you can convince
Jason to move A Bul (whether that is on Ser or on Rum) it's got to be
good for both of us.
It would mean that he is attacking Austria, which benefits you by
likely freeing up my units to better hold off Turkey from gaining
builds, as well as making RI possible down the road. The benefit I
draw from that is similarly obvious.
I have every faith that you have seen this point and are already
working to take advantage of it. :) However, it occurs to me that
there are several moves I can offer to Jason that could make a
Turkish assault on Austria more attractive and likely to succeed. As
long as Austria's coming at me, it's in my best interests to offer
such things.
So if you can get past your reticence to discuss plans with me, you
could let me know what assistance I could offer to Jason that might
make him more likely to attack Philippe. As noted in my last message,
in the short term, anything that sows AT discord is in our mutual
best interests. Sharing the fact that you are giving me such
information is only going to make an AT more likely by increasing
fears about an RI, so you can count on that happening. You can trust
I will also not be transparent with information you give me. "Hey
Jason, tells me you might want support for Bul-Rum" is not going to
be how I approach him, unless we agree it makes sense.
At the same time, I'd like to request that you be similarly
restrained. While I can see that it was to your benefit to tell
Philippe that I suggested taking Gre (good manipulation of him, by
the way) to get him to attack me, such continued leaks will really
hurt RI cooperation down the line. Obviously, if you are hoping I get
eliminated by AT, that's not an issue for you, but I'm trusting you
want to see me hang around for a little bit, at least.
Sorry for being long-winded.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Austria
Philippe,
While my army is in GRE....do you want BUL?
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
> I don't have your last press with me so don't remember how we left
> things. Looking at the board, it is clear that if you can convince
> Jason to move A Bul (whether that is on Ser or on Rum) it's got to be
> good for both of us.
I think there is a better plan.
I think you should offer to support ARM - RUM
An olive branch of sorts.
>
> It would mean that he is attacking Austria, which benefits you by
> likely freeing up my units to better hold off Turkey from gaining
> builds, as well as making RI possible down the road. The benefit I
> draw from that is similarly obvious.
I am also offering the Austrian Bulgaria....not that I would support him
in but I have the Turk scared of an AR, if I can get him to attack Turkey,
he is done.
> I have every faith that you have seen this point and are already
> working to take advantage of it. :) However, it occurs to me that
> there are several moves I can offer to Jason that could make a
> Turkish assault on Austria more attractive and likely to succeed. As
> long as Austria's coming at me, it's in my best interests to offer
> such things.
>
> So if you can get past your reticence to discuss plans with me, you
> could let me know what assistance I could offer to Jason that might
> make him more likely to attack Philippe.
I am past my reticence.
I was just doing a very high risk plan last season and the board hadnt
totally revealed itself yet.
As noted in my last message,
> in the short term, anything that sows AT discord is in our mutual
> best interests. Sharing the fact that you are giving me such
> information is only going to make an AT more likely by increasing
> fears about an RI, so you can count on that happening. You can trust
> I will also not be transparent with information you give me. "Hey
> Jason, tells me you might want support for Bul-Rum" is not going to
> be how I approach him, unless we agree it makes sense.
>
Eric...you are a very good player. I trust your judgemnt on how to
approach people, but I am always willing to give an opinion.
And I agree, we need to sow as much discord as possible, in a covert way.
> At the same time, I'd like to request that you be similarly
> restrained. While I can see that it was to your benefit to tell
> Philippe that I suggested taking Gre (good manipulation of him, by
> the way) to get him to attack me, such continued leaks will really
> hurt RI cooperation down the line. Obviously, if you are hoping I get
> eliminated by AT, that's not an issue for you, but I'm trusting you
> want to see me hang around for a little bit, at least.
I didnt tell him you suggested taking Greece.
But I agree. We need to control that.
Andy
Message from Italy to Turkey
> I appreciate your concern. Hopefully, he'll go to Gal in the spring. If
> not, I'll know for certain.
Most likely.
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
Evidently the thing that sold the Turk on the fact that you and the
Austrian were working together, ie...getting him to build an army
Was that neither of you have gone to Galacia ever.
Make sure your DMZ with Austria in in place. I can get him to attack
Austria in the fall, assuming Galacia has never been fought over.
Andy
Message from Turkey to Italy
Austria's now completely paranoid about my army build. Apparently, he
sees enemies everywhere.
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
> Austria's now completely paranoid about my army build. Apparently, he
> sees enemies everywhere.
>
With his previous behavior...this surprises you ..:-)
I think you need to watch out ...
take care
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
> > I don't have your last press with me so don't remember how we left
> > things. Looking at the board, it is clear that if you can convince
> > Jason to move A Bul (whether that is on Ser or on Rum) it's got to be
> > good for both of us.
>
>I think there is a better plan.
>
>I think you should offer to support ARM - RUM
I have already offered that, but from the way Jason has responded to me so
far, I don't think he's going to take me up on it. I'll keep pressing,
trust me. Depending on how things go with Austria, I may order the support
anyway -- but your input on who needs the most shaking up may sway me on
that point. I was thinking that if he thinks he can hit Sev and Ser at the
same time, he might just be greedy enough to try it.
>I am also offering the Austrian Bulgaria....not that I would support him
>in but I have the Turk scared of an AR, if I can get him to attack Turkey,
>he is done.
Ah. Well that really needs to be done carefully. If we want to see Turkey
go down, then Bul moving fits well with that move. Otherwise, it's better
if Jason supports Bul in place.
>Eric...you are a very good player. I trust your judgemnt on how to
>approach people, but I am always willing to give an opinion.
I appreciate the compliment, though I don't see how can you possibly know
whether or not that's true! :)
> > While I can see that it was to your benefit to tell
> > Philippe that I suggested taking Gre (good manipulation of him, by
> > the way) to get him to attack me, such continued leaks will really
> > hurt RI cooperation down the line.
>
>I didnt tell him you suggested taking Greece.
Well, he could have made that up, but you were the only one I talked to
about Gre, so it seemed a reasonable statement. And I could believe you'd
tell him I'd suggested it as a way to throw him off the trail.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> I have already offered that, but from the way Jason has responded to me so
> far, I don't think he's going to take me up on it. I'll keep pressing,
> trust me.
I think that would be a good thing. Just keep emphasizing the fact that
you and he will untangle and if you dont make the supports, he is still in
this very good position on you. Why wouldnt you make the supports.
Depending on how things go with Austria, I may order the support
> anyway -- but your input on who needs the most shaking up may sway me on
> that point. I was thinking that if he thinks he can hit Sev and Ser at the
> same time, he might just be greedy enough to try it.
Well...Im not sure how easy it is to shake up Philippe. He plays what
seems like a very conservative game. I could be wrong.
I will talk to the Turk about Serbia.
> >I am also offering the Austrian Bulgaria....not that I would support him
> >in but I have the Turk scared of an AR, if I can get him to attack Turkey,
> >he is done.
>
> Ah. Well that really needs to be done carefully. If we want to see Turkey
> go down, then Bul moving fits well with that move. Otherwise, it's better
> if Jason supports Bul in place.
True. But if we support Jason right now. Where does my next dot come from?
> >Eric...you are a very good player. I trust your judgemnt on how to
> >approach people, but I am always willing to give an opinion.
>
> I appreciate the compliment, though I don't see how can you possibly know
> whether or not that's true! :)
We have several connections of the Kevin Bacon variety, and they all speak
well of you.
> > > While I can see that it was to your benefit to tell
> > > Philippe that I suggested taking Gre (good manipulation of him, by
> > > the way) to get him to attack me, such continued leaks will really
> > > hurt RI cooperation down the line.
> >
> >I didnt tell him you suggested taking Greece.
>
> Well, he could have made that up, but you were the only one I talked to
> about Gre, so it seemed a reasonable statement. And I could believe you'd
> tell him I'd suggested it as a way to throw him off the trail.
I went to him and basically said that I was scared to death of the AT, and
thought I was next on the menu.
Andy
Message from France to all
Players:
I just moved, and Verizon messed up my DSL move order (big surprise), so
I'm without reliable internet access outside of work for the next two
weeks. I will be offline more or less all weekend this weekend and will
get back to everyone Monday morning (EST).
Erik
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
> > >I am also offering the Austrian Bulgaria....not that I would support him
> > >in but I have the Turk scared of an AR, if I can get him to attack Turkey,
> > >he is done.
> >
> > Ah. Well that really needs to be done carefully. If we want to see Turkey
> > go down, then Bul moving fits well with that move. Otherwise, it's better
> > if Jason supports Bul in place.
>
>True. But if we support Jason right now. Where does my next dot come from?
I just meant that him moving is good, and offering support is a good
way to make that happen. Not that the support needs to be given. But
thinking on it further, us simultaneously getting Philippe and Jason
attacking each other may be a bad idea. If Jason stabs Austria and is
not stabbed himself, we'd stand a good chance of seeing an RA vs. IT
or an RT vs AI, which could be very effective for both of us with
properly shared information.
My preference would be to see an RA vs IT, with Turkey getting the
initial spoils off of Austria. Both twosomes are less stable, and so
less likely to lead to nastiness for either of us (since RT or AI
could easily be parlayed into something that is bad for R or I). But
I can be flexible.
>We have several connections of the Kevin Bacon variety, and they all speak
>well of you.
Yeah, while beating me into the ground. With my first VGFP tourney
and in the Vermont "class-based" games, I have recently played with
several notable good players. Most have said good things about me,
but so far I've only survived one of those games. They may be
mistaking "nice guy" for "good player". :)
I've actually gained more respect for those players through playing
with them. While I was initially awed by their reputations (in
particular, ending up in a game with Roger Y. and Allen S. in it in
the 2nd round of the VGFP), seeing some of these players in action
gives me a lot more respect for them. In many cases they play exactly
the way I *think* I play. But given the results so far, it's clear
that they actually play the way I *want* to play, not the way I *do*
play. Subtle but important distinction.
--- Eric
Message from Master to all
Players,
I'm extending the deadline due to lack of internet access by one of
your brethren.
Greg, GM
C2
p.s. Boo!
Message from Austria to all
Hi,
I would also like everyone to know that I'm leaving for
the week-end in a few hours and that I will reply to
messages when I get back,
Take care,
Philippe
Message from Austria to Italy
> While my army is in GRE....do you want BUL?
Thanks. While I can't fully trust you until I have
seen your next set of actions, your support for
Rum-Bul would be appreciated, even though the
probability of my actually using it is low.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Turkey
Jason...
The Austrian just sent me a note on his way out the door for the weekend,
instucting me that the only use of Greece that will be *NOT* be considered
an act of war would be to support him from RUM - BUL.
I asked him if just leaving were ok, and he said that I cant be trusted to
*just leave*.
just sharing what I hear.
Andy
Message from Turkey to Italy
Yeah, he basically issued an ultimatim to me over the build. I think
he's got problems now.
Obviously, I'd prefer that you support Bul, but as long as you don't
support him, I'm cool. Either way, I think we have a much better angle
on cooperation now.
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
Jason,
> Obviously, I'd prefer that you support Bul, but as long as you don't
> support him, I'm cool. Either way, I think we have a much better angle
> on cooperation now.
No worries....
What is Bulgaria doing anyway.
Message from Italy to Russia
> I just meant that him moving is good, and offering support is a good
> way to make that happen. Not that the support needs to be given. But
> thinking on it further, us simultaneously getting Philippe and Jason
> attacking each other may be a bad idea. If Jason stabs Austria and is
> not stabbed himself, we'd stand a good chance of seeing an RA vs. IT
> or an RT vs AI, which could be very effective for both of us with
> properly shared information.
That would take something considering his position on you right now.
What do you want to do...
Has the Turk told you anything??
Message from Turkey to Italy
Bul is supporting a convoy into Rum. Supposedly, so is Sev.
jason
Message from England to all
Greetings all.
I have been swamped at work & at home these last few days. If any of you
feels I owe you a press, or I haven't responded to something, please let me
know.
Apologies all around.
Ben
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
I did hear from Jason, and I think he's seriously considering
Arm-Rum. (That means he told me he is, but I don't know whether or
not to believe him). I'm actually more interested in what he's
telling you than what he's telling me.
From what Philippe has said to me, I infer that he is considering
taking you up on your offer of support to Bul. (I don't know this for
a fact, and he hasn't revealed that you offered it -- I'm just saying
this based on what he's talked about as possible moves). What have
you been hearing from him?
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> I did hear from Jason, and I think he's seriously considering
> Arm-Rum. (That means he told me he is, but I don't know whether or
> not to believe him). I'm actually more interested in what he's
> telling you than what he's telling me.
That is what he told me he is doing. Jason has been sortof talkative,
mostly talking about how the Austrian is threatening him.
> From what Philippe has said to me, I infer that he is considering
> taking you up on your offer of support to Bul. (I don't know this for
> a fact, and he hasn't revealed that you offered it -- I'm just saying
> this based on what he's talked about as possible moves). What have
> you been hearing from him?
I havent heard a word from him. But he was away for the weekend.
Message from England to Italy
Andy
There is an RT. If I was France I wouldn't mind. But it's bad news for
you & bad news for me - we are in the way.
What can/should we do?
Ben
Message from Italy to England
Ben,
> There is an RT. If I was France I wouldn't mind. But it's bad news for
> you & bad news for me - we are in the way.
>
> What can/should we do?
What makes you say this.
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> What makes you say this.
Turkey. Who also I think feels close with you. So I'm asking with the
hope that sooner or later you can push some buttons over there.
Am I wrong?
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> Andy -
> > What makes you say this.
> Turkey. Who also I think feels close with you. So I'm asking with the
> hope that sooner or later you can push some buttons over there.
>
> Am I wrong?
Im fairly tight with Turkey.
But he hasnt told me that he is very tight with Russia.
He has told me mostly thhe opposite and his moves beget that.
But I know the Austrian was all over him about he Army build, so it could
be.
I think you should kill the German even faster.
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> I think you should kill the German even faster.
I'm working on it. Don't let Turkey get too far away from you.
I can't believe you're up this late playing Diplomacy. At least *I'm*
doing something constructive. Reading the @#$#'ing press archive of
Teachme3, which is clearly a file too big for my browser, scrolling slower
than a fish flopping up a hill. Now /that's/ time well spent.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
>
> Andy -
> > I think you should kill the German even faster.
> I'm working on it. Don't let Turkey get too far away from you.
>
Have no fear.
> I can't believe you're up this late playing Diplomacy. At least *I'm*
> doing something constructive. Reading the @#$#'ing press archive of
> Teachme3, which is clearly a file too big for my browser, scrolling slower
> than a fish flopping up a hill. Now /that's/ time well spent.
I am actually packing for a buisness trip that starts tommorow night.
Message from Austria to Italy
Hi Andy,
Any news? I still haven't heard from
France and it's making me nervous.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> Any news? I still haven't heard from
> France and it's making me nervous.
nothing solid....not that I can see.
Message from England to Italy
> I am actually packing for a buisness trip that starts tommorow night.
Have a good trip. I hope it's somewhere warm & with good food.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
>
> > I am actually packing for a buisness trip that starts tommorow night.
> Have a good trip. I hope it's somewhere warm & with good food.
Thanks
Its not likely warm. And I havent been there in years, so the food
quetsions is up in the air.
take care
Andy
Message from France to Italy
Andy:
FYI, Austria is showing renewed interest in gaining my assistance against
you, despite rejecting similar proposals at the beginning of the game. I
don't know where your relationship with him is going, but with a strong
AT clearly in place, I'd certainly don't want you and Russia to end up
falling to them alone.
Tyrolia will be making a (probably unsuccessful) attack against Munich,
so it may be around for a little while longer. Don't worry -- there's no
risk of attack against you by any of my units.
What are your plans?
Erik
Message from Italy to Austria
FRance tells me that you are offering to support him to Venice.
Im not sure what to make of that....
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
What exactly do you want from me...
Austria: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Rumania → Serbia
Austria: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce, destroyed*)
Austria: Army Serbia → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Austria: Fleet Trieste → Adriatic Sea (*bounce*)
Austria: Army Vienna → Trieste (*bounce*)
England: Fleet London → North Sea (*bounce*)
England: Fleet North Sea → Denmark (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Norway → Skagerrak
England: Army Yorkshire HOLD
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Tyrolia → Munich
France: Army Paris → Picardy
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Tyrolia → Munich
Germany: Army Belgium → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Berlin → Munich (*bounce*)
Germany: Fleet Denmark → North Sea (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Kiel → Holland (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Munich → Ruhr
Italy: Army Greece SUPPORT Turkish Army Bulgaria
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Adriatic Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice HOLD
Russia: Army Moscow → Ukraine
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol SUPPORT Turkish Army Armenia → Rumania
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Fleet Sweden SUPPORT Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Army Ukraine → Galicia
Turkey: Army Armenia → Black Sea → Rumania
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea CONVOY Army Armenia → Rumania
Turkey: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Army Armenia → Rumania (*cut*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
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