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Message from Italy to England
> I notice, though, that he waited until early this morning
> before submitting moves. He must have been really wavering.
>
He might have been wavering but I think somebody had their error flag set.
Listings of the game before I left work two hours before the deadline had
everybody with orders in but just with a wait set.
>
> France also sent a private message to Russia and me saying
> that he would accept a 3-way. Given the wording, I think
> he might accept a 4-way if Nick would. I'll see what I can do.
>
Like I said previously, I have very little doubt that I will eventually be
eliminated. I expect Russia to turn against me immediately. If indeed that
comes to pass, perhaps you can suggest a 2-way with France. I would work to
support that outcome if it looks like I would be eliminated anyway.
Thanks again for your efforts.
Roberto
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
Any mail that you might have sent me since my last
message got lost. I messed up changing my address. It
seems that I cannot spell my own name. One of many
mistakes.
On the rare chance there was some mail, please resend it
if you think me worthy.
France
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
I will be able to get spring orders in before I leave.
If all goes well, I can send in some fall orders too - as
long as there is no discussion required for me. I will
try my best to keep the game moving and minimize the
delay.
Message from France to all
This is the King of France.
Due to incompetence and too many failures to mention, my
sons are relived of their duty to France. I was enjoying
a semi-retirement under the guise of a long illness, but
it is time to return to the throne. The Dauphine shall
return to pushing around little wooden soldiers and
Prince Boar shall return to his studies on philosophy.
With these things they can do little damage. From this
point on my daughter, Josephine, will be the sole heir of
France. However, that time has not come and I shall deal
with all matters diplomatically and militarily.
King Roger XIII
Message from Italy to France
I made the moves I made with the full understanding that I will most likely
be eliminated. Blame Ivy, he can lay a guilt trip with the best of them. I
only moved as I did out of respect for Ivy, his play throughout the game,
and his monumental efforts he put forth to prevent Nick and I from
strangling each other. He deserved a better fate than some emotional moron
throwing a game. I have already suggested privately to him that the two of
you might consider a 2-way draw. A fitting conclusion to a very bizarre
game.
Roberto
Message from France to Italy
Ken:
As I said, I have no hard feelings. :-)
Roger
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
I only had a second during my last message. Here is a
better response:
>I made the moves I made with the full understanding
>that I will most likely be eliminated.
That is currently my goal, yes.
>Blame Ivy, he can lay a guilt trip with the best of
>them. I only moved as I did out of respect for Ivy,
>his play throughout the game, and his monumental
>efforts he put forth to prevent Nick and I from
>strangling each other. He deserved a better fate
>than some emotional moron throwing a game.
Obviously you valued including Ivy in a draw over
excluding Nick in one. I can understand that. Even if
it was a close call, tossing in the ability to deny me a
solo and the small chance that you could survive, and
your decision makes sense.
Remember that I put the end game in your hands. You
choose 'not French solo'. So now I must work very hard
to ensure the other alternative comes true. We shall see
if I succeed. :-)
>I have already suggested privately to him that the
>two of you might consider a 2-way draw. A fitting
>conclusion to a very bizarre game.
I just do not see this happening. There simply is no
stalemate line.
King Roger XIII
Message from France to England, Italy, and Russia
My spring moves are in without wait.
Best of luck,
King Roger XIII
Message from England to Italy
Roberto.
I wrote,
>France also sent a private message to Russia and me saying that he would
>accept a 3-way. Given the wording, I think he might accept a 4-way if Nick
>would. I'll see what I can do.
Wow, I got an earful. This is definitely not the time to lobby France for
any sympathy for you. Did he have any bone to pick with you before this
last move?
Ivy
Message from Russia to all
Wow, it just occurred to me that 1912 has ended!
That means it's time for EoYs, Philosophy Debates,
Pravda Reports, etc. It's been a rollercoaster
year, and I encourage everyone to comment on it.
Eric/Nick/Russia.
Message from Italy to England
>
> Did he have any bone to pick with you before this last move?
>
Perhaps in the spring I did a few moves unexpected but nothing that should
have caused too much alarm. He fully warned me of the consequences of me
not falling thru with our plan. Kinda like 'game over, period' but in a
much kinder, gentler way. Before that, what possible bone could he have
since I basically allowed him to grow from 5 to 14 without opposition.
If I want any part of a draw, we probably have to get my army out of Munich
and into Holland ASAP. I will leave it up to you if you want to work toward
that goal.
Personally, I think France still has legitimate solo opportunities as
ANK,BUL,TRI are all possible targets especially as I lose BUD/RUM to the RF
forces. Of course, Nick probably thinks differently.
I would be very careful about negotiating with Nick right now. He's going
to be so chummy with France it'll be pathetic. It would be fair to say,
anything you tell Nick privately would be used against you in his alliance
with France to eliminate me.
I think an exchange of RUM/SEV for HOL/KIE is fair but I rather doubt Nick
would see it the same way. Can we do it without his cooperation?
Roberto
Message from Russia to all
Well, that was interesting, I just got several past seasons worth of
press...
Message from Italy to England
>
> I just read over yesterday's messages, and I am worried that my response
> to you was overly flippant -- Butch Cassidy, the Lone Ranger and all of
> that. Sorry, I know that you were serious. It's just that in my own
> mind the game is over, and it is difficult for me to believe that
> anything you or I do matters. I suppose there is always that small
> chance. Russia, certainly, has a much different attitude.
>
When did you send this? and the other message referring to butch and lone?
I think they were sent prior to the spring results but I'm not sure. I'm
just now receiving several messages from you and France that appear to be
more relevant to 1911 than 1912. Just trying to clear up some confusion on
my end.
Message from England to France, Italy, and Russia
Roberto, Nick, King Roger
This has been strange. I have been getting old titleist messages, some
over one month old. I am not even sure that I have even seen some of the
old messages before. Is it possible that they were missing all this time?
Furthermore, I have typed a few messages this weekend only to have USIN
confirmation delayed for over 24 hours.
So I am not sure what is being transmitted successfully and when.
I will let this message be a test. If I get an immediate confirmation from
USIN, then I will send out other messages.
Ivy/Allen
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
> > I just read over yesterday's messages, and I am worried that my response
> > to you was overly flippant -- Butch Cassidy, the Lone Ranger and all of
> > that. Sorry, I know that you were serious. ...
>When did you send this? and the other message referring to butch and lone?
Several turns ago. It seems that some messages never got through. It's
fortunate that nothing horrible happened as a result of this.
I think that USIN is straightened out now.
You asked about getting to Holland for safety. That's OK, but I don't
think that there is any tactical way of gaining your survival. If France
and Russia get together, they easily take everything except Munich
(Holland) from you. If that happens, then I with my puny seven units am
probably doomed as well. Diplomacy may succeed where tactics is weak. I
am somewhat doubtful that Russia retains his fondness for France after
Roger deceived Nick in the spring and went for total victory in the
fall. Those actions negated years of promises.
This turn, at least, I think I will just support Munich in place. I want
to see what France will do with his units and determine just where Russia
stands. I have turned down an offer from France for him to support me into
Munich.
I need to send a joint message to you and Nick now. It will stress the
need for continued vigilance. If France remains aggressive and continues
to attack you, then I believe that is actually to your benefit. Russia is
much more likely to remain on our side. Last year in urging Russia to
cooperate, I begged him not to take Sevastopol. That was the hard part of
our joint cooperation. Explicit in the exchange was the notion that
Moscow->Sevastopol->Armenia would be acceptable this year, because it would
not result in the loss of Sevastopol to Russia. I know it may no longer be
necessary, but I am going to suggest it in the joint message. I think it
is 100% certain that it is going to happen anyway.
I have not heard from Russia at all in several days -- just that short
broadcast about the old messages.
Ivy/Allen
Message from England to Italy and Russia
Roberto, Nick,
Is the danger over? Probably, but I want to see just what France does
now. He may be passive, even resigned, after his failure of last year. He
deceived Nick in the spring and went for victory in the fall. Nice try,
but no cigar. I don't want to see him get another chance.
I have not received any messages from either of you concerning joint
tactics. Should I be proposing something? Cautiously I will suggest that
it is time for the long debated Moscow->Sevastopol->Armenia. That plus
BlackSea->Ankara should forever keep Ankara out of French hands. Budapest
supp Trieste seems obvious as well. Beyond that I have not given the
matter serious thought. Yesterday I was fully occupied with the National
Audubon Society Christmas Bird Count plus my father's birthday.
I have a little time today and will have considerable time tomorrow.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Russia to England, France, and Italy
Sorry for my silence. I'll try to think about S1913M this evening.
Nick.
Message from France to Master, England, Italy, and Russia
Doug:
I should be able to handle any retreats from this phase. After that,
please advance the deadline to Dec. 26 or later if required by other
players.
--Roger
Message from Italy to France
>
> PS: If you are willing to tell me what type of dog your puppy is, I
> would like to know.
>
Some messages are just now rolling in. I think this is one that was sent
sometime ago....
I actually didn't get a new puppy. The comment about Russia's news article
was purely a joke. Wife and I are waiting until our daughter is a bit older
(she's 2 and a half now) before we get another dog.
Our dog that passed away was a border collie. I raised him from two weeks
old when he was found abandoned along a highway. We found out he had cancer
on, of all days, Sept 11th. He was ten years old.
Message from England to Italy
Roberto,
I have received no word whatsoever from Nick, and that is worrisome. If
you can afford Munich supp Berlin, I would appreciate it.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Italy to England
>
> I have received no word whatsoever from Nick, and that is
> worrisome. If
> you can afford Munich supp Berlin, I would appreciate it.
>
Nor have I. I still prefer Mun-Kie if you want to reconsider. Nick can ill
afford an English disband at this point so retreating to Denmark or any
other dangerous spot could be negotiated away.
Roberto
Message from England to Italy
> Nick can ill afford an English disband at this point so retreating to
>Denmark or any other dangerous spot could be negotiated away.
In my honest opinion, Nick is an erratic judge of what he can and cannot
afford to do. I am sitting here worried about StP->Norway and an attack on
Berlin. Given what I have seen Nick do in recent years, I see no reason
why he might not do something like that.
He has not written me. What does that mean? If I don't hear from him I am
moving Nao-Nwg as a precaution.
********
France now tells me that once again he is ready to throw in the towel. He
is setting draw and leaves it to me whether I should try to get you and
Russia to join in. Sure, why not. I am setting draw and will say so in a
message to you and Nick.
Allen/Ivy
Message from England to Italy and Russia
Friends,
France has privately said that he is setting draw. He leaves it to me to
decide if I want to encourage others to do the same.
So I too set draw.
Your choice.
Ivy/Allen
Message from Italy to England
Draw set; no orders entered.
Roberto
Message from Italy to England and Russia
>
> So I too set draw.
>
> Your choice.
>
Draw set; no orders entered.
Roberto
Message from Russia to all
Sorry that I'm late, and sorry for my silence; I've been sick. I'm going to
try
to make it to work today, and will hopefully get my moves in by lunch-time.
Eric.
Message from Russia to England and Italy
Gentlemen,
>Message from England to Italy and Russia in 'titleist':
>France has privately said that he is setting draw. He leaves it to me to
>decide if I want to encourage
>others to do the same. So I too set draw.
It seems odd that he would tell me that he will not
set draw until Italy is eliminated, and then tells
you that he has set draw. I'm forced to conclude
that he is hoping to sow mistrust between us. I
suggest that we move forward, and take his Austro/
Balkan/Turkish Centers, and give him the opportunity
to propose a draw to all of us. I will move in
accordance with this goal.
Nick.
Message from England to all
"I'm going to try to make it to work today." -- Eric
"Work. Where one can play Diplomacy undisturbed." -- Webster's New
Collegiate Dictionary, 10th ed.
Message from Russia to all
>Broadcast message from England in 'titleist':
> > "I'm going to try to make it to work today." -- Eric
>"Work. Where one can play Diplomacy undisturbed." -- Webster's New
>Collegiate Dictionary, 10th ed.
*ROFL* Well, it is true that at work there is only
one person using my PC, while at home there are three.
Message from Russia to Italy
Roberto,
I'm supporting Bud-Ser, and ordering Gal-Vie. Let me
know if you'd prefer something different.
Nick.
Message from Master to England, France, Italy, and Russia
Please appraise me of any extension requests for the holidays. I'll
be gone from Dec 21 to Dec 25 and we already have one request to extend
until Dec 26 (after these moves, which are past due).
If there are any retreats that can be handled in short order, we'll
do that; so i expect we'll have the F1913M deadline on Dec 26 (or
later, as requested).
Doug
Message from England to Master, France, Italy, and Russia
>Please appraise me of any extension requests for the holidays.
Home for the holidays, I don't expect to make any requests.
Allen
Message from Italy to Russia
Barring a draw, is there any interest on your side in swapping Vienna for
Budapest?
Roberto
Message from Russia to Italy
>is there any interest on your side in swapping Vienna for
>Budapest?
That works for me. I'll change to Tri S Bud-Vie,
Gal-Bud.
In Haste,
Nick.
England: Army Belgium HOLD
England: Army Berlin SUPPORT Italian Army Munich
England: Fleet English Channel SUPPORT Army Belgium
England: Fleet Irish Sea SUPPORT Fleet English Channel
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean → Norwegian Sea
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Army Belgium
England: Army Ruhr → Kiel
France: Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast)
France: Fleet Brest SUPPORT Army Picardy
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT English Army Berlin → Munich (*void*)
France: Fleet Constantinople SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast)
France: Army Marseilles SUPPORT Army Burgundy
France: Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean HOLD
France: Army Paris SUPPORT Army Burgundy
France: Army Picardy SUPPORT Army Burgundy
France: Army Serbia → Rumania
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) SUPPORT Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Russian Army Galicia → Vienna (*void*)
France: Army Venice SUPPORT Army Tyrolia
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean SUPPORT Fleet Mid-Atlantic Ocean
Italy: Fleet Black Sea → Ankara
Italy: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Budapest → Vienna
Italy: Army Budapest → Vienna
Italy: Army Munich SUPPORT English Army Berlin
Italy: Fleet Rumania → Black Sea
Russia: Army Galicia → Budapest
Russia: Fleet Kiel → Denmark
Russia: Army Moscow → Sevastopol
Russia: Army Prussia SUPPORT Army Warsaw → Silesia
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Army Trieste SUPPORT Italian Army Budapest → Vienna
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Army Moscow → Sevastopol
Russia: Army Warsaw → Silesia
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