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Message from Russia to all
>England: Builds an army in London.
>England: Builds an army in Edinburgh.
Ivy, are you insane??? Even if France supports
you into Kie and Ber, and gives you Munich, that
plus all of Russia is only 15 Centers, and Sev
is hard for a Northern Power to take and hold.
Do you expect France to give you Austrian,
Turkish, or Balkan Centers that you can't
defend, just to avoid the Solo??? Is anyone in
this game, besides Prince Boar, playing to win?
Czar Nicholas II of Germany and Poland.
Message from Master to all
Players -- please remember to submit EoY statements. Thanks,
Doug
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> can I invite you into Ukr to split Mos and Sev?
>
I was thinking along similar lines. I'll move Rum-Ukr.
If you support the move, it's sure to succeed but you can
try for Moscow immediately if you want.
Any other suggestions?
Idalia
Message from Russia to Italy
> Message from Italy to Russia in 'titleist':
> > can I invite you into Ukr to split Mos and Sev?
>
> I was thinking along similar lines. I'll move Rum-Ukr.
Thanks.
> Any other suggestions?
Well, I guess that depends on whether you want to try to
wipe out Turkey, or defend against France. What's your
pleasure?
Nick.
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> Well, I guess that depends on whether you want to try to
> wipe out Turkey, or defend against France. What's your
> pleasure?
>
Wipe out Turkey first, then defend against France.
Message from Russia to Italy
> Wipe out Turkey first, then defend against France.
Ok, then, how about:
A BULGARIA - Aeg - EMed - Syr
A RUMANIA - Ukr
F AEGEAN SEA C Bul - Syr
F GREECE S Ser - Bul
A BUDAPEST - Rum
A VIENNA - Tyl
F EASTERN MEDITERRANEAN C Bul - Syr
A SERBIA - Bul
If Turkey attacks, one of your moves might bounce, but your Centers
should be secure, and the Convoy to Syr should give you Smy in the
Fall as I take Mos. What do you think?
Nick.
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
>Had Turkey defended Rumania, I would have
I guess that I need to pay closer attention. I thought
that you had a guaranteed attack on Bulgaria as long as I
did not hit one of your fleets. Sorry for not being
studious enough.
>Careful here. A reduction in my size begins to let
>Turkey off the hook and gives me less opportunity
>to hit Northern Russia. However, I could probably
>afford to pull the EAS fleet if I had to.
This is exactly my purpose. I am concerned long term
about your three fleets. If you removed one, then I
would probably not worry about your size. I am certainly
not asking you to be unable to fight Turkey.
I have to admit that I have been uneasy with your actions
in that I just did not believe that they would continue.
I am continually waiting for the other shoe to fall.
Hence, I decide to ask you what your true motivation was.
Before I was afraid to write to you too much in fear
that you would change your mind. I am realizing that
this is the wrong approach. I need to stay better in
touch with you.
Let's discuss a plan for this year. I assume that you
will be able to take a Turkish center. I also ask if you
would help Russia take back Moscow. In a way this helps
you because it weakens Turkey. It also hurts England,
which is one of your stated goals. I also ask if you
would accept my taking two of your centers so that we
would eliminate one of your fleets. Then when I have
Ven, Rom, Nap, and you have only two fleets I would not
worry about your size. I would be willing to error of
not taking centers faster than you take them rather than
the opposite. Since you cannot build, it would not
matter if you gained net centers.
Eventually I would envision an approach where you press
your armies focus moving up through Russia. You would
probably control Turkey, Bulgaria, Rumania, then parts of
Russia. With only two fleets and your forces far to the
east on the board, we could minimize the forces wasted in
the Balkans. This may be too far out, but it is at least
something to think about.
We can talk specific moves tomorrow and this weekend. I
have to get some sleep.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to all
Fredd:
>Ya gotta love it. The person who has sent out more
>press than anyone whom I've ever played against, wants
>to be a censor. What could any EOG message say that
>hasn't been said in private many times?
More press to you than Ivy wrote? I am surprised. If
you had been more communicative, you would have gotten
much much more from me. I am not sure if you are
relieved or disappointed. I suspect the former. :-)
Go ahead and broadcast your EOG if you want to. I just
thought it would be more fun to read them all together.
When the game ends, you statement would be hard to
recall (being so long ago), which would be disappointing.
I look forward to hearing what everyone has to say.
Write a End of Units statement if you want :-)
Let us know when you get your hot tub. I assume that you
will invite us all over!
Message from Germany to all
> From France
> Let us know when you get your hot tub. I assume that you
> will invite us all over!
Seven guys in a hot tub, not MY idea of fun. ;-)
Message from Italy to France
I can live with your scenario. Which two centers will you be taking so I
know to leave them open?
Are you willing to use one of your fleets to help me take Smyrna or do I
have to take a Turkish center by myself?
Idalia
Message from France to Italy
Roberto:
Who is Idalia? Is it another name for Italy? Do you
wish me to call you that instead of Roberto?
>I can live with your scenario.
Great!
>Which two centers will you be taking so I
>know to leave them open?
Venice and unknown. Perhaps Trieste, but we can figure
that out together in the fall.
>Are you willing to use one of your fleets to help me
>take Smyrna or do I have to take a Turkish center by
>myself?
If need be, I can help you. I am especially willing if
this allows you to help Russia take back Moscow.
--Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
>
> Who is Idalia? Is it another name for Italy?
>
Idalia is the former Austrian ambassador to Italy. She is running the
country since Roberto disappeared one foggy night in Tunis. The change in
name has much more meaning to Turkey and Russia as it does to the west.
> Do you wish me to call you that instead of Roberto?
>
You can call me whatever your heart desires.
> If need be, I can help you. I am especially willing if
> this allows you to help Russia take back Moscow.
>
Russia and I have agreed that I will help him take back Moscow. I will be
moving Rum-Ukr. Russia probably will support the move but might try for
Moscow right away.
I can convoy Bul-Syr and try to move Ser-Bul with Grecian support but in
order to take Smyrna I have to be in Bulgaria and Turkey can bounce Ser-Bul
with Con/Bla combo. I don't have Rum to help since it's moving to the
Ukraine. Of course, Turkey can bounce me in Syria as well but I can't do
anything about that.
If Turkey guesses correctly, are you prepared to scale back my 'reduction in
size'?
Idalia
Message from Russia to all
"Warsaw Komsomolets"
January, 1907
"Growth At Last, But At What Price?"
Reports of riots in St. Petersburg mark the continuing decline of Russian
solidarity. Scores of citizens were injured and three lives were lost as
angry mobs stormed the English and Turkish consulate buildings. The
sound of shattering glass could be heard throughout the city and a few
buildings were seen smoldering in the early light of dawn.
When word of the fall of Germany came to this area, it was hoped the
citizens would once more unite and a wave of support would be felt much
as it did when Austria fell by the wayside. News of declining conditions
for
the troops bravely fighting this war, the stagnation of the economy, the
loss of key positions to supposed allies have clearly left their mark
on the citizens of this great country. Once firmly supporting the Czar
Nicholas and Tsarina Alexandra, the nation now questions why their leader
has chosen this inopportune time to tour the areas of Scandinavia and
Northern Germany when they, themselves, face destitution and ruin.
Government sources are trying to rally the people, promising that things
will
soon change as Turkey and England face defeat and Russian troops move
in to take advantage of this situation. Programs to aid the hardest hit
areas
are in planning and sources say many people may see relief in only a matter
of weeks. The Bolsheviks feel that this aid package will be too little, too
late,
if it arrives at all and have begun to call for revolution.
The citizens of Moscow are reported to be rioting, but not in protest or an
attempt to overthrow the Russian government. Attempts have been made to
foil key operations of the Turkish military and it is rumored that the
partizans
are, indeed, causing much havoc. Leaflets supporting Czar Nicholas and
urging citizens to unite and oppose the heathen Turks that threaten their
homes
are being posted faster than the Turkish Propaganda Corps can remove them.
What will happen in 1908 remains uncertain, but clearly it will be a year of
great change and upheaval.
Message from France to all
I apologize for my recent silence.
Life has been too busy.
Last night was my daughter's birthday
As most of you know, that must
come before Diplomacy.
For single guys like Fredd, think:
Dauther's B-day ~ Date with Girl > Dip
I spent all day today working on a project
for her school. 2nd grade should not take
up this much time! Need to finish tomorrow.
But something that Fredd can understand:
tonight I am going to a Party!
(first one in almost a year :-)
I will write tomorrow AM before
the frenzy begins anew. I know that I owe
most everyone a message. Since I cannot
write you all now, I will wait on everyone.
Regards,
France
Message from France to Italy
Idalia:
How is this for a plan for this year:
F Eas -> Syr
F Aeg -? Eas
F Ion -> Aeg
F Gre s A bul
A rum -> Ukr
A Ser/Bud -> Rum
A Vie ? -> Gal? Perhaps on its way to Silesia or to
help with Rum?
I will ask Turkey to support Ion to Aeg. In order for
him to do so, he cannot block your move to Syria. He is
likely to support my move because in theory it could help
him stop you from taking a center, or even help him take
one from you. This should guarantee that you will get
one Turkish center.
To answer your other question, I will not force you to
disband two units.
I am going to write to Turkey right now to see if he
would consider the support, but will not commit to it
100% so I can hear from you.
--Prince Boar
Message from Italy to France
>
> How is this for a plan for this year:
> F Eas -> Syr
> F Aeg -? Eas
> F Ion -> Aeg
> F Gre s A bul
> A rum -> Ukr
Works for me. I'll leave out the other army moves. You can't know
everything. :)
> To answer your other question, I will not force you to
> disband two units.
I would prefer the wording to be: "I will not force you to disband more than
one unit."
Idalia
Message from France to Italy
Idalia:
chuckle, yes I note your correction. I will not force
you to disband more than one center.
Good luck.
--Prince Boar
Message from Master to Italy
Just a friendly reminder that your S1908M moves are due tonight.
Doug
Message from Master to all
One-day extension at player request.
Doug
Message from England to Italy
Italy -- Roberto -- Idalia (who the %^&$ are you these days, amigo?)
I have two choices.
1) attack France now, hoping for a partnership with Russia and you. The
goal would be to slow France and then reduce him, but it would also presume
a good faith effort to equalize forces between England, Russia and
Italy. Are you interested? Can you work with Russia (and me)?
2) eliminate Russia and permit France to grow as well. You will have to
burrow into the SE corner. This assumes that you and I will eventually
work together with the goal of restoring your homeland and equalizing our
forces. That's a long term project, but it is workable. This might be
better if you have no trust for Russia.
> > What do you wish to do if you are dug in at Turkey's location
> > and France does not yet have 18? Will you defend?
>
>
>I'm not sure yet.
In a land where "yes" sometimes means "maybe" and often means "no," "I'm
not sure yet" is good enough for me.
I'm just trying to determine your outlook here.
Given the shortage of time, I may send a joint message to you and Russia
before I receive an answer from you. There is no doubt that Russia would
agree to an Eng/Rus/Ita partnership, given that his alternative is
elimination. We still write each other frequently, and he remains cordial.
Most sincerely,
Ivy
Message from Italy to England
My immediate (and only) goal is the elimination of Turkey. I've committed
myself to the attack and can't really change direction now. I will continue
this attack even at the expense of losing units to France.
I cannot tell you what will happen if and when Turkey is eliminated. I have
no idea what the map will look like. It maybe that I have to try to take
units from Russia just to make up for lost units to France. It maybe that
Russia and I could cooperate. It maybe that France has a forced win. I'll
have to cross that bridge when it comes.
Idalia by the good graces of the ArchDuke
Message from Russia to Italy
I don't understand why England and France are so
reluctant to attack each other, but it seems that
they are. Turkey still isn't talking to me. Just
to confirm, you're moving Rum-Ukr, and not moving
Bud or Vie to Gal, correct?
Nick.
Message from England to Italy
For your information:
I wrote Turkey last week at the beginning of this spring season and have
not had a reply.
At the time I wrote I was still trying to help him, but now I am thinking
that you are much more likely to be the SE corner survivor.
I had suggested War->Ukr as a possibility, because I thought you were more
likely to try Bud->Rum->Ukr rather than the too obvious Rum->Sev. As I
said, Turkey never replied, so I don't know if he will do it.
Ivy
Message [from England] to all
What county do you live in Doug? Perhaps you need a subgroup of the
Vermont group consisting of those who have a consistent record of
submitting moves on time -- the Xxxxxx County group.
> News about USIN can be found at
> http://www.thekleimans.com/diplomacy/usin.htm
>
> All unmoderated games will be removed.
> Judge address is usin@theKleimans.com
> New Registrations will be reviewed for completeness and
> removed without notice if determined incomplete.
>
>Message from masseyd@btv.ibm.com as Master to England in 'titleist':
>
>One more friendly reminder to submit moves tonight. Each deadline missed
>usually costs us a day; I'm trying to keep the game moving in order to
>finish sometime near the end of the year. The only way to avoid annoying
>emails like this is to submit orders and set wait. And even then, I might
>write to ask you to set nowait. ;-)
>
>Thanks!
>
>Doug
Message from England to all
Who could this mystery writer be? He cleverly covers his tracks with grey
broadcasts.
Ivy
>Broadcast message in 'titleist':
>
>What county do you live in Doug? Perhaps you need a subgroup of the
>Vermont group consisting of those who have a consistent record of
>submitting moves on time -- the Xxxxxx County group.
> >Message from masseyd@btv.ibm.com as Master to England in 'titleist':
> >
> >One more friendly reminder to submit moves tonight. etc.
Message from France to Italy
Idalia:
Do you recall how you sought clarification that my
statement that I would not force you to disband two units
did not imply that I might force you to disband more?
Well I have a similar issue. You said that the movement
of your armies were to remain secret. I have no problem
with this. However, I do want to make certain that they
stay east and do not wander towards Munich. Can I count
on that? I do not need to know where they are going,
just that they are not heading west or northwest :-)
I think it likely that we will be able to help you take a
Turkish center. Couple that with Turkey losing Moscow
and you will be in good shape to exercise Turkey from the
corner.
I am looking forward to working more with you.
--Prince Boar
England: Fleet Belgium → English Channel (*bounce*)
England: Army Denmark HOLD
England: Army Edinburgh → North Sea → Belgium (*bounce*)
England: Army Holland → Ruhr (*bounce*)
England: Army London HOLD
England: Fleet North Sea CONVOY Army Edinburgh → Belgium
England: Fleet Norway HOLD
England: Fleet Norwegian Sea → North Atlantic Ocean
France: Fleet Adriatic Sea SUPPORT Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea
France: Fleet Brest → English Channel (*bounce*)
France: Army Burgundy → Ruhr
France: Fleet Ionian Sea → Aegean Sea
France: Army Marseilles → Burgundy
France: Army Munich SUPPORT Army Burgundy → Ruhr
France: Fleet Naples → Ionian Sea
France: Army Piedmont → Venice
France: Fleet Rome → Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy: Fleet Aegean Sea → Eastern Mediterranean
Italy: Army Budapest → Rumania (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Army Budapest → Rumania
Italy: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Syria
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
Italy: Army Rumania → Ukraine (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Serbia SUPPORT Army Budapest → Rumania
Italy: Army Vienna → Galicia
Russia: Army Berlin → Kiel
Russia: Fleet Kiel → Helgoland Bight
Russia: Army Warsaw → Moscow (*bounce*)
Turkey: Army Ankara SUPPORT Fleet Smyrna
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Constantinople
Turkey: Army Constantinople HOLD
Turkey: Army Moscow → Ukraine (*bounce*)
Turkey: Fleet Smyrna SUPPORT French Fleet Ionian Sea → Aegean Sea
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