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Message from England to Russia
Nick,
How 'bout that. Fredd finally cut you a break.
I am thinking of the following:
StP->Nor
Nth->Helgo
Edi->Nth
Hol->Kie
If I am bounced out of Norway in the spring, then I can support myself in
with Nth in the fall. You probably are going to take Warsaw in the spring
before taking StP in the fall. Right?
It doesn't make any sense for Germany to squeeze you out of Denmark, for
you would just retreat to Sweden.
With Denmark you can try Den->Swe hoping to bounce or even Den supp
Hol->Kiel. Another possibility is to talk to Fredd and see if he might
even reveal his plans to you. His removal was anti-England, so he might be
willing to help you as he departs this world by tipping off his moves.
What am I missing? Do you have any suggestions?
I will be out of town most of the time from noon Saturday through Sunday
evening.
Ivy
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
My first instinct is for us to get what we can from Italy and Germany. If
we both gain centers it is less likely that the rest of the world will
regard either one of us as a threat to run away with the game.
I am thinking of Nth->Helgo, Eng->Bel, StP->Nor, Hol->Kie.
Do you see anything wrong with taking Rome and Naples in the spring? Or
will you hold those fleets and decide in the fall? Mar->Pie could be
useful in taking Munich if Germany remains in Tyrolia this turn.
What about Bur supp Ruhr->Munich verses Ruhr supp Hol->Kiel? The former is
far from certain to succeed, while the latter will work. If I am in Kiel
in the spring, I could help with Munich in the fall.
If you are really lucky you could get Munich plus all of Italy this year,
while losing only Belgium. That may be a bit too much, but I think we
should begin the year with agressive intentions and then, if necessary,
hold back in the fall to stay balanced.
It looks like Nick will take Warsaw in the spring and walk into Stp in the
fall. Over in the east, it appears that Italy has Rumania if he wants it.
So what could go wrong? What are your thoughts?
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I know that you are out of town, so I will not make this
a long message.
I will probably only take 1 or 2 at the most Italian
centers. I do not want to unbalance our alliance.
I think that we may be best served by Ruhr supporting
Burgundy to Munich this season because in the fall you
will also have the Bight available and probably Denmark
and Munich. Also, if I am in Piedmont, I can break
Tyrolian support for a move on Munich. You will be
attacking Kiel, therefore that cannot support a move
against Munich. Hence, if I am in Munich, I need not use
Ruhr to support it and can add it to your support to take
Kiel. I think that if we instead use Ruhr this season
for the attack on Kiel, then Munich is much more
unlikely.
I have to study the map more, as I am running through
this in my mind and may be missing something.
We can talk more when you return.
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> How 'bout that. Fredd finally cut you a break.
A year or two too late for him, but...
> I am thinking of the following:
>
> StP->Nor
> Nth->Helgo
> Edi->Nth
> Hol->Kie
Seems reasonable.
> If I am bounced out of Norway in the spring, then I can support myself in
> with Nth in the fall. You probably are going to take Warsaw in the spring
> before taking StP in the fall. Right?
Yes, if I take StP this year at all. Given the fact that StP is
English, War is
German, and Sev is Turkish, there's not a whole lot of reason to take two
Centers this year.
> Another possibility is to talk to Fredd and see if he might even reveal
> his plans to you. His removal was anti-England, so he might be
> willing to help you as he departs this world by tipping off his moves.
I doubt he'll go that far, but I'll write to him.
> What am I missing? Do you have any suggestions?
I think you've covered it.
Nick.
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
I'm back home now and it is late. I should have lots of time tomorrow.
>I will probably only take 1 or 2 at the most Italian
>centers. I do not want to unbalance our alliance.
>I think that we may be best served by Ruhr supporting
>Burgundy to Munich this season because in the fall you
>will also have the Bight available and probably Denmark
>and Munich. Also, if I am in Piedmont, I can break
>Tyrolian support for a move on Munich. You will be
>attacking Kiel, therefore that cannot support a move
>against Munich. Hence, if I am in Munich, I need not use
>Ruhr to support it and can add it to your support to take
>Kiel. I think that if we instead use Ruhr this season
>for the attack on Kiel, then Munich is much more
>unlikely.
I am holding my breath on this one. I know you placed great trust in me
last year when I could have walked into both Paris and Brest. At the time
I think we both agreed that the game may have been at stake due to Italy's
position.
I am not sure what is on the line this time, but it looks like I will have
to now place great trust in you. Your sugggested moves put you in a
position to pick up Munich, Venice, Rome, and Naples while restricting me
to Kiel.
If you wish to take Munich in the spring, perhaps I can request one favor.
Can you take Munich from Ruhr? With your proposed moves I don't think that
Ruhr will be needed at all to take Kiel in the fall, for I would then use
the Bight to help with Kiel. By taking Munich from Ruhr there would be
greater separation of our forces and I could feel a little more secure. A
little. 8-)
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
> Yes, if I take StP this year at all. Given the fact that StP is
>English, War is
>German, and Sev is Turkish, there's not a whole lot of reason to take two
>Centers this year.
I am not sure just what you mean here. Don't forget that we have a tricky
situation in Sweden/Denmark also, both of which you own.
Let me mention something that is bothering me greatly. I am worried that a
crises with France may arrive too soon. France wants to attack Munich in
the spring. He also proposes to advance to the Piedmont. Thus he can walk
into all three Italian centers in the fall in addition to taking Munich.
France says he will only take one or two Italian centers so we can stay
balanced, but he is putting himself into position to take everything.
I feel like we are the watchdogs here. Certainly Italy and Turkey can't be
counted on. I have been hoping that you would be farther west if and when
France made his move, that you would be grabbing Berlin and have armies
ready to move into Austria.
This is just me worrying out loud. Should France go for it this year, I
hope that you and I can organize some sort of resistance.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
If you prefer that I take Munich from Ruhr, I can
certainly do that. The only potential problem is that it
does weaken your chances at taking Kiel and we may have
to deal with Kiel retreating to Ruhr. The latter would
not be the end of the world, just a nuisance.
I am glad that you have to do a little trusting now too,
I did not want to have the market cornered :-) Actually
you have had to trust me for a while now and I still need
to trust you this turn. For the record, there is zero
chance that I will betray you this season.
I also want to point out that you will also be picking up
Belgium. Yes it is a make up for St. Petes, but then
Munich would be a make up for Belgium. And I will not be
taking all three Italian centers!
Let me print out and study the map some so we can talk
more. Orders are due tonight I suppose? I have never
liked Monday deadlines. They typically mean one day to
negotiate because the weekends are often wasted.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I think that my odds of taking Munich are probably low
this year. Therefore, lets take the sure one first and
then see what we can do about Munich in the fall.
Ruhr will support Holland to Kiel. I do ask that you
take Belgium from the Channel. In the fall I ask for
your promise to support Ruhr or Bur to Munich.
The way things look, we should each grow by one this
year. Although I do run the risk of causing Italy to
throw everything at me if I take two of his center so
there is a chance that I might not net a center. That
would be hilarious! :-)
--Prince Boar
PS: My orders are now in.
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >Yes, if I take StP this year at all. Given the >fact that StP is
>English, War is German, and Sev >is Turkish, there's not a whole lot of
>reason to >take two Centers this year.
>I am not sure just what you mean here. Don't forget that we have a tricky
>situation in Sweden/Denmark also, both of which you own.
Rest assured that I'm well aware of my Scandinavian
Problem, but given the German disbands, it seems
unlikely that he will try for Swe or Den unless I
support Hol-Kie. *Nick considers Den S Hol-Kie,
Lvn-Pru this Spring, followed by Kie S Pru-Ber...*
Hmmm, what do you think?
>I am worried that a crisis with France may arrive too soon. France wants
>to attack Munich in the spring. He also proposes to advance to the
>Piedmont. Thus he can walk into all three Italian centers in the fall in
>addition to taking Munich.
Yes, that is a potential problem, I'll speak with
Roberto.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from England to France
>I think that my odds of taking Munich are probably low
>this year. Therefore, lets take the sure one first and
>then see what we can do about Munich in the fall.
Actually, there are similar problems with both Kiel and Munich. Taking
(and holding!) them may depend on what happens with the German units.
Silesia could be in Denmark at the end of spring if Nick tries to cover
Sweden, and who knows what Fredd will do with Silesia and Tyrolia.
Certainly he will not try to hold Warsaw.
The difference between our situations is that Kiel is my only best hope for
gaining a center. Whereas, if you can't get Munich, you always have Rome
and Naples to compensate. As usual the situation will be clearer by fall.
>Ruhr will support Holland to Kiel.
You are generous. Thank you. What a difference between you and Fredd. I
do think this will make our fall moves easier.
>I do ask that you take Belgium from the Channel.
Yes.
>In the fall I ask for
>your promise to support Ruhr or Bur to Munich.
Yes.
>The way things look, we should each grow by one this year.
Or two or three. We can take a hard look at this later.
>Although I do run the risk of causing Italy to
>throw everything at me if I take two of his center so
>there is a chance that I might not net a center.
Not possible. Italy is a basket case. It's too late to defend his
homeland. I am not even sure that he will defend Venice. What may happen
is that he may take Rumania and Bulgaria this year and stay even. It will
be interesting if he ends up in the Turkish corner. I keep wondering what
I would have done in Italy's shoes when your fleets appeared in the Med.
Have you heard from Turkey lately? Has he too all but given up?
My moves are in also, and now I am removing my "set wait."
Ivy
set nowait
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>Rest assured that I'm well aware of my Scandinavian
>Problem, but given the German disbands, it seems
>unlikely that he will try for Swe or Den unless I
>support Hol-Kie.
Unlikely? Doesn't he have a 50-50 chance at Sweden or Denmark? Skag->Swe
if Denmark holds; Skag->Den if you try Den->Swe?
>*Nick considers Den S Hol-Kie,
>Lvn-Pru this Spring, followed by Kie S Pru-Ber...*
>Hmmm, what do you think?
*IF* Denmark is not going to move (and you do need to consider Den->Swe --
toss a coin?), then it can do no better than Den supp Hol->Kie. I should
also note that France is reconsidering (or says he is) Ruhr supp Bur->Mun.
He may support Hol->Kiel after all. May. Right now, all I can be sure of
is that I will be in Helgoland this spring, and if I haven't taken Kiel in
the spring, then I can support myself in the fall. Even that isn't
guaranteed though.
Your idea of Lvn->Pru is interesting. It has the advantage of attacking
what I thought would be the last German center to fall, namely Berlin. The
disadvantage is that you would be giving up a sure StP for a less than
certain Berlin. I could indeed support you from Kiel, and you could cut
German support from Warsaw, so chances are quite reasonable. I don't think
there is any risk that Germany will bounce you in Warsaw this spring. He
gave up Warsaw with his removals.
My moves are in. They are as advertised. You have several options and I
will be happy with any of them. There is a chance that France will get
back to me again today. I'll let you know if anything critical is
exchanged.
Write if you have questions.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> >it seems unlikely that he will try for Swe or >Den unless I support
>Hol-Kie.
>Doesn't he have a 50-50 chance at Sweden or Denmark?
Yes, but Ska-Nwy or Ska-Nth also causes you/us
problems. If Fredd had disbanded Tyl, rather than
War or Bot, I'd say Ska-Swe/Den was more likely,
but given his pro-Russian disbands, I doubt that
attacking my Centers will be his first idea this
Spring, and given that it's a 50-50 shot, I'm not
sure trying to defend against it makes much sense.
> >*Nick considers Den S Hol-Kie,
> >Lvn-Pru this Spring, followed by Kie S Pru-Ber...*
> >Hmmm, what do you think?
>
>*IF* Denmark is not going to move (and you do need to consider Den -Swe
>--toss a coin?),
I'm still thinking as I'm writing here, but Den-Swe
doesn't make sense to me. *IF* Fredd orders Ska-Swe
he ends up disbanding two or three, and GF Swe is
isolated. Ska-Den is much more likely, I think.
>Your idea of Lvn->Pru is interesting. The disadvantage is that you would
>be giving up a sure StP for a less than certain Berlin. I could indeed
>support you from Kiel, and you could cut German support from Warsaw
The problem is, if Germany orders Sil S Tyl-Mun,
Ska-Den, then he covers Mun, or bounces Hol-Kie,
depending on France's orders for A Ruhr. Would you
consider Hol S Den-Kie, Nth-Den, Lvn-Pru? If he
orders Ska-Swe, you could order Nwy S Den-Swe in
the Fall, while I take Berlin. If he orders Ska-Den,
it would bounce, and we'd still take Ber, but
defending against GF Ska in the Fall, would require
some thought to avoid having you taking Den and Swe.
Hmmm, interesting... Do you see anything I'm
overlooking?
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from Russia to England and France
Gentlemen,
We have Germany spread out, and unable to support
himself right now. I think it is important to keep
him from consolidating his position, so I strongly
urge, Nth-Hel, Edi-Nth, Den S Hol-Kie, Bur S Ruh-Mun.
This will keep him from covering Mun, and let us
take at least two of his remaining Centers this year,
with the potential to take three or four.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
I'm at work only briefly right now.
> >Your idea of Lvn->Pru is interesting. The disadvantage is that you would
> >be giving up a sure StP for a less than certain Berlin. I could indeed
> >support you from Kiel, and you could cut German support from Warsaw
>
>The problem is, if Germany orders Sil S Tyl-Mun,
>Ska-Den, then he covers Mun, or bounces Hol-Kie,
>depending on France's orders for A Ruhr. Would you
>consider Hol S Den-Kie, Nth-Den, Lvn-Pru? If he
>orders Ska-Swe, you could order Nwy S Den-Swe in
>the Fall, while I take Berlin. If he orders Ska-Den,
>it would bounce, and we'd still take Ber, but
>defending against GF Ska in the Fall, would require
>some thought to avoid having you taking Den and Swe.
>Hmmm, interesting... Do you see anything I'm
>overlooking?
The worst result would be if Germany tried Skag supp Kiel->Den. Then we've
gotten nowhere. The more likely Skag->Den backs up two of my fleet
movements. Still ... .
I'm not saying "no" yet. I want to go home and move the wooden pieces
around a little first. I hope you can check e-mail this evening.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
>Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
>I'm at work only briefly right now.
*nod* Me too.
>if Germany tried Skag supp Kiel->Den.
That seems amazingly unlikely unless someone told
him what we planned. Den S Hol-Kie is our most
likely move, so Ska S Kie-Den doesn't gain him
much.
>The more likely Skag->Den backs up two of my fleet
>movements. Still ... .
True, but since we'd be taking Kiel in the Spring,
Nth-Hel wouldn't really be needed anymore. Edi-Nwg,
ECh-Nth might be better if you expect Ska-Den,
though. I will be online tonight, so play with the
blocks and get back to me.
Nick.
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
>> >if Germany tried Skag supp Kiel->Den.
>>
>>That seems amazingly unlikely unless someone told
>>him what we planned.
There are a lot of combinations, but we just have too much manpower for
much to go wrong. So I am willing order Hol s Den->Kiel. As far as I can
see you will get Berlin, provided you are in Prussia and Warsaw.
Time is tight. I need confirmation from you in time to correspond with
France. The last I heard from him he was considering Ruhr supp Hol->Kiel.
I don't want that to be an invalid move, because I don't want to give him
any excuse to attack me first. I should be functional until about 10:30 pm
eastern. Later if I watch Dallas-Washington. But they are so bad, So I
don't know.
Nth->Den may be wasted and can back up my fleets, so I am still considering
Nth->Bight. If Germany slips into Denmark, he will easily be ousted in the
fall. I'm putting my money on Skag->Sweden. If so, that will be his last
unit.
Ivy
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
Nick is urging a change that I can live with. Essentially he wants Kiel
instead of StP, at least for now. This works for me. That would entail
Holland supporting Den->Kiel.
This enables Ruhr to go to Munich as you originally wanted.
I will not change my moves unless I hear from you this evening before 10:30
pm eastern. The last thing I want is for you to support a move that I do
not make. Thus, it is still Hol->Kiel unless I hear from you.
Ivy
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
> Message from England to Russia in 'titleist':
> I am willing order Hol s Den->Kiel. As far as I can
> see you will get Berlin, provided you are in Prussia and Warsaw.
Agreed. I'll order Ukr-War, Lvn-Pru, Den-Kie.
> Nth->Den may be wasted and can back up my fleets, so I am still
> considering Nth->Bight. If Germany slips into Denmark, he will
> easily be ousted in the fall.
Yes, we can force him out of Den, GA Ber S GF Den-Kie, would
keep me from taking Berlin. This is one of those odd cases where
a bounce is better for us. (Actually, Nth-Den, Ska-Swe would be
ideal.) Nth-Den, Edi-Nwg, ECh-Nth has possibilities, I think. It
allows Nwg-NAO, if France takes Rome, Nap, Ven and Mun, for
one thing. If the moves work, you can still order Hol S Nth-Bel in
the Fall; if the Spring bounces, then Hol S ECh-Bel, in the Fall. I
don't see a down-side.
Your Friend,
Nick.
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I got your note. I will use Ruhr to attack Munich. I am
torn whether it is better to attack from Ruhr or
Burgundy. Support from Ruhr can be broken, but I do not
want to leave Ruhr open for a retreat. Since the move is
likely to bounce anyway, I guess that the attack from
Munich is better.
You do realize that this change will probably cost me
Munich. A fleet in Kiel is useless for supporting a move
to Munich.
Good luck with whatever you have planned.
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
>You do realize that this change will probably cost me
>Munich.
Aaugh! Consequences of hasty diplomacy. If you want to return to Ruhr s
Hol->Kiel, just e-mail me. If you do, I will confirm the change back. I
can check e-mail every 15 minutes or so while watching this wonderful 0 - 0
football game.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Please keep checking e-mail if you can. France and I are still
negotiating. I had forgotten that I had promised that Kiel would support
him into Munich in the fall. Your fleet in Kiel can't do that. France may
still permit your plan though. Cross your fingers.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
No word from France. It will be Hol s Den-kie
Ivy
Message from France to England
Are you on and available?
Are you willing to switch?
If it is too late, we can just wait
I will check to see if anyone is missing orders.
--Prince Boar
Message from France to England
Ivy:
It is too late for me to deal with this tonight. Hence
we must leave it as it is. Someone is late. If the
moves have not processed by morning, we can discuss it
some more. I should be available by 6:30 AM Eastern
time. Send me a note when you are on-line.
I am not 100% certain which is better. The current moves
bounce Germany from Munich. The other moves allow him
into Munich but add an army against it. An support from
your army in Kiel would likely get broken, do not you
think so?
--Prince Boar
Message from Russia to England
Ivy,
The more I think about it the more important Nth-Den seems.
If Fredd take Swe, you'll need to be in Den for Nwy S Den-Swe,
and if Fredd moves Ska-Den without being bounced, it will keep
me from taking Berlin this Fall.
In Haste,
Nick.
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
Pick one:
1) Ruhr supp Hol->Kiel; Kiel subsequently supports action in Munich
2) Ruhr supp Hol->Kiel; Kiel subsequently supports Pru-Ber
3) Hol supp Den->Kiel; Ruhr & Bur go for Munich
I will then write Nick and take responsibility for this little mess.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I am willing to simply leave things as they are. As I
ponder it, I think that you are cutting your armies off
from Germany and creating a dilema for yourself. Where
do you expand next. Your avenue through Germany is cut
off. Rather than English armies in Germany, there will
be Russian ones. I suppose that you can claim Denmark,
but you will have to take (or perhaps receive) something
from Russia real soon. Bascially you will have to attack
either France or Russia. I certainly do not want it to
be France :-)
I suppose that Germany will be weakened and Russia will
not really be able to build all those units, only one.
That would be a good time for you to hit him. Perhaps
that is your plan?
As long as you are comfortable with the current plan, I
can live with it. If I attack Tyrolia, Russia attacks
Silesia and Berlin, then I should still get Munich in
the fall. This will allow me not to take too much of
Italy this turn.
In the long run, perhaps this is the best plan.
I do not know what your plans are for your other units,
but you will certainly need to prepare to take Norway if
Germany moves there and try for Denmark. You should
probably order Nth to Nor s by StP and Edi to Nth.
Alternatives are Nth to Den, Edi to Nth. Lvp to Yor
seems like the best plan, unless you move Edi to Nws, Nth
hold, then the army could go to Edi.
I look forward to seeing what you decide.
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
>Bascially you will have to attack
>either France or Russia. I certainly do not want it to
>be France :-)
Well, yes. My plan has always been to attack Russia. Russia's current
idea enables me to keep StP and I like that.
>I suppose that Germany will be weakened and Russia will
>not really be able to build all those units, only one.
>That would be a good time for you to hit him. Perhaps
>that is your plan?
It's what I've been thinking. Everything about Russia's suggested moves
gives me an opportunity to hit him in the fall.
>As long as you are comfortable with the current plan, I
>can live with it. If I attack Tyrolia, Russia attacks
>Silesia and Berlin, then I should still get Munich in
>the fall. This will allow me not to take too much of
>Italy this turn.
As I've said before, let's look carefully at the position after the spring
move. If I have Belgium, keep StP, and grab one other center, then it may
be best for you take all you can get. We might decide that it is time for
us to go all out.
Ivy
Message from England to Russia
Nick,
Nth->Den it is.
Ivy
Message from France to England
Ivy:
I think that you might be best off waiting for next year
to attack Russia, since he will basically build nothing
this year. But I haven't really thought about it very
much. I agree that the spring results will help clarify
it. I certainly willing to discuss the options in the
fall.
Do you really think that we could achieve a two-way draw?
I too have a few, one of which was not stalemated in my
history. But ours would be carebear. All the observers
would scream about a carebear draw in a "title" game :-)
- not that I care too much about what they think.
But I am getting ahead of myself here.
--Prince Boar
Message from England to France
Prince Boar,
I don't really like what we've just gone through in the way of rushed
messages at the last minute. I am a slow thinker who likes to plan moves
leisurely and measure words carefully. I've let Russia talk me into
something that I *think* just happens to be in my best interests.
>I think that you might be best off waiting for next year
>to attack Russia, since he will basically build nothing
>this year. But I haven't really thought about it very
>much. I agree that the spring results will help clarify
>it. I certainly willing to discuss the options in the
>fall.
I've been keeping an eye on the total strength of Germany and Russia. I
prefer to strike when their total strength is something that I can
handle. That may happen sooner, rather than later, if Nth->Den
succeeds. [Yes, Russia does want Nth->Den.] This is also why I want
Munich to fall this year.
>Do you really think that we could achieve a two-way draw?
>I too have a few, one of which was not stalemated in my
>history. But ours would be carebear. All the observers
>would scream about a carebear draw in a "title" game :-)
>- not that I care too much about what they think.
>
>But I am getting ahead of myself here.
But it is something we will need to discuss. What I thought might happen
was something like this. You and I work our way eastward while trying to
hammer out a mutually agreeable 17-17 split of territory. It would
probably have to be understood that if either of us makes careless moves
then the other will likely try to exploit the situation. I have won and I
have lost in such settings, and I once accepted a two-way when I had a
forced win. It's hard to know which way emotions will run in these situations.
Another thing for us to keep our eye on is eastern stalemate positions. We
are near the point where the combined forces of all others will be unable
to stop us. This may be moot, for I also think that the other four players
will never be able to unite effectively. I suppose that Roberto was
thinking something similar, though!
Ivy
Message [from Russia] to all
Someone wonders whom we are waiting for? (Or is that who?)
Message [from England] to all
>Someone wonders whom we are waiting for? (Or is that who?)
It's "whom." Only use "who" in that context if want to avoid being
considered priggish. (smile)
Message [from Russia] to all
>Broadcast message in 'titleist':
>
> >Someone wonders whom we are waiting for? (Or is that who?)
>
>It's "whom." Only use "who" in that context if want to avoid being
>considered priggish. (smile)
Hell, I pride myself on being priggish! (grin)
Message [from Turkey] to all
> > >Someone wonders whom we are waiting for? (Or is that who?)
> >
> >It's "whom." Only use "who" in that context if want to avoid being
> >considered priggish. (smile)
>
> Hell, I pride myself on being priggish! (grin)
Then shouldn't you have said "for whom we are waiting"?
This is the kind of language up with which I cannot put. (wink)
England: Fleet Edinburgh → North Sea (*bounce*)
England: Fleet English Channel → Belgium
England: Army Holland SUPPORT Russian Fleet Denmark → Kiel
England: Army Liverpool → Yorkshire
England: Fleet North Sea → Denmark (*bounce*)
England: Fleet St Petersburg (north coast) → Norway
France: Army Burgundy → Munich (*bounce*)
France: Army Marseilles → Piedmont
France: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Army Burgundy → Munich
France: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea
France: Fleet Tuscany SUPPORT Army Marseilles → Piedmont
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Naples
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Tyrrhenian Sea
Germany: Army Kiel SUPPORT Fleet Skagerrak → Denmark (*dislodged*)
Germany: Army Silesia SUPPORT Army Tyrolia → Munich
Germany: Fleet Skagerrak → Denmark (*bounce*)
Germany: Army Tyrolia → Munich (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast) (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Budapest SUPPORT Army Serbia → Rumania
Italy: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Aegean Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Galicia SUPPORT Army Serbia → Rumania
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea → Bulgaria (south coast)
Italy: Army Serbia → Rumania
Italy: Army Trieste → Serbia
Italy: Army Vienna → Trieste
Russia: Fleet Denmark → Kiel
Russia: Army Livonia → Prussia
Russia: Army Ukraine → Warsaw
Turkey: Army Ankara SUPPORT Fleet Smyrna
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Army Rumania → Serbia (*cut*)
Turkey: Army Constantinople SUPPORT Army Bulgaria
Turkey: Army Rumania → Serbia (*bounce, dislodged*)
Turkey: Fleet Smyrna SUPPORT Army Constantinople
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