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Message from France to England and Italy
> France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea ->
> Ionian Sea. (*void*)
I am SUCH an idiot. I didn't even think that move was possible. Tys,
Tun, Tys, Tun ... Damnit.
Erik
Message from Russia to England and France
Erik and Ben,
I feel so guilty. I thought that there was still an extremely slim chance
that if I held Ber and Erik took Mun that Andy could support me back to Mun
before I lost Ber.
I was actually available last night in the hour or so right before the
deadline and I chose not to respond. For the record, that is one of the only
times in this game where my not being available was by choice rather than
circumstance.
In any case, now that I've actually lost Ber (Ben, I almost sent you a
message saying "how can I not hand it over", because it *was* pretty likely)
I'm happy to discuss all the options we were discussing before.
Let me know what you'd like to do. We can discuss together or independently
as you'd like.
Oh, and I will be unavailable from the sending of this message for a while,
and that's circumstance again. :)
--- Eric
Message from Italy to England and France
> > France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea ->
> > Ionian Sea. (*void*)
>
> I am SUCH an idiot. I didn't even think that move was possible. Tys,
> Tun, Tys, Tun ... Damnit.
Erik..we have all written a bad order....hell...I play alot of FtF and I
have seen some of the best players in the world write really bad
orders....if you want examples....I can give them.
And since the Russian just took SMY, I doubt he will have turkish help
this fall.
I will support Tunis to ION in the fall with 2 units.
Andy
Message from Russia to England
Well, I didn't hand it over as willingly as you would have liked, for the
reasons outlined in the shared press. I thought Mun retreating to Tyl would
have been good for me. But that ain't the way it happened. With you in Ber
there's not a lot more I think we need to work out. I'll kind of sit back and
see where things go. If things stay messy enough in the south, then maybe we
can push for that 2way. If they resolve quickly, then a three way seems more
likely. But I don't think I have a lot to do with pushing it one way or
another.
Do you agree? Any comments?
Anything sports related we should be discussing? :)
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> Well, I didn't hand it over as willingly as you would have liked, for the
> reasons outlined in the shared press.
My friend, things went pretty much as I expected. ;o) No hard feelings.
> I thought Mun retreating to Tyl would
> have been good for me. But that ain't the way it happened. With you in Ber
> there's not a lot more I think we need to work out. I'll kind of sit back
and
> see where things go. If things stay messy enough in the south, then maybe
we
> can push for that 2way. If they resolve quickly, then a three way seems
more
> likely. But I don't think I have a lot to do with pushing it one way or
> another.
Well, sooner or later Erik will likely attack Andy. If you are close by
then we will have a 3-way. If Andy has some breathing room then we are
more likely to get a shot at a 2-way. Still, all that said, a series of
small things including this past season are beginning to say to me, Ben,
pack it up. I'm not sure how to proceed, probably for the first time this
game.
> Do you agree? Any comments?
Harrum. Nothing else, really. I'm beginning to look forward to seeing the
comments archives, now that my faint dreams of a solo are, like yours,
pretty much gone. Though having played a game in which press was archived
before - Teachme3 - I admit I haven't a lot of patience for the reams of
nonsense we Dippers can deliver. Perhaps the commentators have been
pithy? We'll find out.
> Anything sports related we should be discussing? :)
Well, it's baseball season. As we say in Baltimore, How 'bout dem O's!
Last I heard Bonds was still chasing that elusive landmark homer. . . I
confess to paying less attention to baseball - particularly the Senior
League - than football.
Ben
Message from England to France and Italy
Gentlemen -
> > > France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea ->
> > > Ionian Sea. (*void*)
> >
> > I am SUCH an idiot. I didn't even think that move was possible. Tys,
> > Tun, Tys, Tun ... Damnit.
>
> Erik..we have all written a bad order....
This is a non-issue. If a had a dollar for all the harmless mistakes I'd
made, etc., etc. I'd really rather have a dollar for the /harmful/
mistakes, but that's neither here nor there.
> I will support Tunis to ION in the fall with 2 units.
Yeay.
Any suggestions for me, oh wise Andy?
Ben
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
An attack against France would be suicide, I think, still, alas. . .
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Message from benjamin.harris@mindspring.com as England to Italy in 'c2':
>
> Andy -
> An attack against France would be suicide, I think, still, alas. . .
Im not attacking France, but I am going to insist on supporting TYS to
ION.
Message from Italy to England and France
> > I will support Tunis to ION in the fall with 2 units.
> Yeay.
Erik....after looking at the map, I would MUCH rather support TYS to the
ION than Tunis.
It just makes me alot more comfortable. That is all.
KIE - HEL
BAL s BER
DEN - KIE
NTH - DEN
other than that....no....
we need to protect Berlin, get TYS to the ION....
I am currently trying to figure out why I didnt speak up and tell Erik
that I would have prefered an army in Marsaille last turn...BRE - GAS
would help alot.
Because we need another army down here.
Message from England to England
Can I attack Erik? Yes. NAO - MAO, BEL - ENG, DEN - NTH - BEL, build an A
LON.
But I think it's too late. TUN would be Eric's 18th center and in my
wildest dreams I could not capture it, or MUN, or penetrate through the
North toWAR or MOS.
Time to let it go. . .
Ben
Message from England to France
Erik -
> Erik....after looking at the map, I would MUCH rather support TYS to the
> ION than Tunis.
Ah! We are busted. I did not understand why he didn't write this sooner.
No matter - he is asking me to put an army in KIE, which is a beautiful
thing, because it will give us 3 armies adjoining MUN, so we will control
it much better without him:
> KIE - HEL
> DEN - KIE
Ben
Message from England to France and Italy
> KIE - HEL
> BAL s BER
> DEN - KIE
> NTH - DEN
This is a fine proposal as far as I'm concerned.
For what it's worth, I do not think TYS - ION is an unreasonable request
from Andy.
Ben
Message from England to Turkey
Jason -
I am sorry for my own failings as a Dip player, that we could not have had
a relationship good for me and good for you.
This is not what I wanted, but I fear I didn't do enough to make it any
other way. . . Perhaps my next game, when I'm smarter.
Can you join the VG now? It would be a clean sweep of C2, if you could do
it. . .
Ben
Message from Turkey to England
Hey Ben, thanks but it's not your fault. I never did get a coherent
policy for balancing Italy and Russia, and ended up getting stepped on
by both.
Congrats on your place in the draw, though. I can probably join VG, and
I just applied on their web site. Look forward to playing with you again.
jason
Message from Russia to England
Ben,
>Well, sooner or later Erik will likely attack Andy. If you are close by
>then we will have a 3-way. If Andy has some breathing room then we are
>more likely to get a shot at a 2-way. Still, all that said, a series of
>small things including this past season are beginning to say to me, Ben,
>pack it up. I'm not sure how to proceed, probably for the first time this
>game.
What, are you saying you don't trust me? I'm hurt. :) Don't make me dig up
those pictures of you with the goat! (The latter comment is for your and
Andy's amusement later when/if you read the full press log).
Andy has stopped talking to me, which can only mean that he's not looking
for help from me to get a place in the draw. Can't really blame him, as I
haven't done boo to help him all game, only working with him when he was
trying to get me to a solo. Are you hearing from him, or has he just
checked out of the game?
>I'm beginning to look forward to seeing the
>comments archives, now that my faint dreams of a solo are, like yours,
>pretty much gone.
Well, the fact that you had any faint dreams is pretty impressive. Whereas
I have managed to fail to solo with four different players trying to help
me solo, and the other two (you and Erik) working with me for most of the
game. Pretty sad commentary on my play (though perhaps a good commentary on
my diplomacy) if you really think about it!
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> What, are you saying you don't trust me? I'm hurt. :) Don't make me dig up
> those pictures of you with the goat! (The latter comment is for your and
> Andy's amusement later when/if you read the full press log).
Ugh, a press log. I will give it my best shot. No doubt I should have
been eliminated early, so I could make a proper study of the thing.
> Andy has stopped talking to me, which can only mean that he's not looking
> for help from me to get a place in the draw. Can't really blame him, as I
> haven't done boo to help him all game, only working with him when he was
> trying to get me to a solo. Are you hearing from him, or has he just
> checked out of the game?
*Andy!?* *Checked out!?* You must be kidding.
> >I'm beginning to look forward to seeing the
> >comments archives, now that my faint dreams of a solo are, like yours,
> >pretty much gone.
>
> Well, the fact that you had any faint dreams is pretty impressive.
:-) I strive to be impressive.
> Pretty sad commentary on my play (though perhaps a good commentary on
> my diplomacy) if you really think about it!
Whereas I have stabbed every player near me & am still on good terms with
those surviving. . . Perhaps a good commentary on mine!
Ben
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Anything to talk about, now at the last minute?
Ben
Message from France to England and Italy
>
> Erik....after looking at the map, I would MUCH rather support
> TYS to the ION than Tunis.
>
> It just makes me alot more comfortable. That is all.
>
Understood. Orders are in.
Erik
Message from Italy to England
> Message from BHarris@StAttorney.org as England to Italy in 'c2':
>
> Andy -
> Anything to talk about, now at the last minute?
>
I dont think so, but I cant get a bloody map to load, so I dont have
orders in yet.
England: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT Army Berlin
England: Fleet Barents Sea SUPPORT Army St Petersburg
England: Fleet Belgium SUPPORT Fleet North Sea
England: Army Berlin SUPPORT Army Denmark → Kiel (*cut*)
England: Army Denmark → Kiel
England: Fleet Kiel → Helgoland Bight
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean HOLD
England: Fleet North Sea SUPPORT Fleet Belgium
England: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Italian Army Munich
England: Army St Petersburg SUPPORT Russian Army Moscow
France: Army Brest → Gascony
France: Army Burgundy → Marseilles
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon → Tuscany
France: Fleet Tunis → Ionian Sea (*bounce*)
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Rome
France: Fleet Western Mediterranean → Tyrrhenian Sea
Italy: Fleet Adriatic Sea SUPPORT French Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Ionian Sea (*void*)
Italy: Army Munich SUPPORT English Army Berlin
Italy: Fleet Naples SUPPORT French Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Ionian Sea (*void*)
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Aegean Sea → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Albania SUPPORT Army Trieste
Russia: Army Bohemia SUPPORT French Army Burgundy → Munich (*void*)
Russia: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Aegean Sea → Ionian Sea
Russia: Army Livonia HOLD
Russia: Army Moscow SUPPORT Army Livonia
Russia: Army Prussia → Berlin (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Serbia → Budapest
Russia: Army Silesia SUPPORT French Army Burgundy → Munich (*void*)
Russia: Fleet Smyrna HOLD
Russia: Army Trieste HOLD
Russia: Army Vienna → Tyrolia
Turkey: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Smyrna (*bounce*)
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