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Message from France to England
Ben:
I'm going to move Gas - Bur with support; I suppose supporting Andy in
Munich would be the best course of action this turn in that space. Bal S
Bre can hold that position, as can Bar S Stp, so the north looks stable.
Can I ask that Iri / Mao / Eng remain DMZd for continued stability?
I will keep pushing down south, though I can always fall back on the
line you discussed (and which I'd observed earlier) in your last press.
Any idea what dying tricks Andy might have up his sleeve?
I'll be out of town through Monday night, but I'll check e-mail
occasionally. Orders are going in now, set wait.
Erik
Message from England to France
Erik -
Nice to hear from you.
> I'm going to move Gas - Bur with support; I suppose supporting Andy in
> Munich would be the best course of action this turn in that space. Bal S
> Bre can hold that position, as can Bar S Stp, so the north looks stable.
> Can I ask that Iri / Mao / Eng remain DMZd for continued stability?
Of course.
> I will keep pushing down south, though I can always fall back on the
> line you discussed (and which I'd observed earlier) in your last press.
Yeah, I only wanted to make sure you see it so you don't accidentally get
your retreat cut off. Make sure your various fleets can each reach where
they need to be. . . That's why I pointed it out. I wasn't trying to
insult your intelligence, just making sure I did my due diligence. . .
> Any idea what dying tricks Andy might have up his sleeve?
He's telling me Eric's asked for support into PIE. Curious, that, & I'm
not sure what to make of it.
> I'll be out of town through Monday night, but I'll check e-mail
> occasionally. Orders are going in now, set wait.
Ok. You now have my thoughts, though I confess my orders aren't in yet.
Travel well!
Ben
Message from Russia to England
> > So, does this count as close to Andy, or
> > do you want to work on a two way?
>Well, right now it would be difficult. Probably I'd need MUN locked up
>*and* you would have to be pretty far behind the line - even then, it may
>not be possible. It would be more interesting if you had fewer southern
>fleets, I think. . .
That was the logic behind building A War and not F Sev, though I don't know
if that was clear. (The fact that A War was also required to seal up my
line had something to do with my choice too, though.)
> > I'm assuming not, but it never hurts to ask.
>Well, 2-way, 3-way, there's not a huge difference. . . I think Erik may
>have done us a favor by accelerating the simplification process, no matter
>how clumsily he may have done it.
:)
>I don't see a safe way to a 2-way right now, but I am a tactical moron,
>hence my forthcoming vgnp bagel.
Well, as I always say, "Better to act like a moron than to act as a moron."
Or something like that. :)
>Let me know if you see something.
"I see London, I see France...."
I think it's all in your hands at the moment. If I have neither Mun nor
Ber, then getting Tun still has me at only 17. That is the focal point for
our current situation. As I see it, your mission, should you decide to
accept it, is to create a position wherein you feel confident that Mun and
Ber will not fall into my hands, even should Erik decide to try and get me
in them.
--- Eric
P.S. No, I am not drunk, though you would not be able to tell from this
message! :)
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> >Well, 2-way, 3-way, there's not a huge difference. . . I think Erik may
> >have done us a favor by accelerating the simplification process, no
matter
> >how clumsily he may have done it.
>
> :)
*sigh*
With Erik in France and Andy in Italy. . . I should have gotten further in
this game.
> >I don't see a safe way to a 2-way right now, but I am a tactical moron,
> >hence my forthcoming vgnp bagel.
>
> Well, as I always say, "Better to act like a moron than to act as a
moron."
> Or something like that. :)
Yes, well, I choose to act like a moron often enough that the distinction
may be blurry. But I make it a point not to act *for* a moron!
> >Let me know if you see something.
>
> "I see London, I see France...."
Your subsequent denial of intoxication is not credible.
> I think it's all in your hands at the moment. If I have neither Mun nor
> Ber, then getting Tun still has me at only 17. That is the focal point for
> our current situation. As I see it, your mission, should you decide to
> accept it, is to create a position wherein you feel confident that Mun and
> Ber will not fall into my hands, even should Erik decide to try and get me
> in them.
Of course, BER is easy - it is done already. MUN is the sticky point. If
you are in SIL/BOH/TYR, then you can bring 3 units against it. So I would
need to be able to support it twice, and BER can be cut, so it would pretty
much have to be KIE and RUH, fashioned in such a way that RUH cannot be
cut. Plus I would have to be *in it* - if Andy were still there I do not
think a team of oxen could get him out. So, that's the hard part.
> P.S. No, I am not drunk, though you would not be able to tell from this
> message! :)
This denial is itself so confusing that it is not credible.
I have written some bad press in my day, when I've been drinking. Do it at
your own peril! ;o)
Ben
Message from Russia to England
> This denial is itself so confusing that it is not credible.
>
> I have written some bad press in my day, when I've been drinking. Do it at
> your own peril! ;o)
:)
No, truly, I was not drunk, though I had just returned from an event called
"Rivers of Chocolate", and so was suffering major sugar-highs!
I also had a lot of dumb sarcasm pent up due to things that I really can't
talk about in detail here, not knowing who is observing our press. :)
--- Eric
Message from England to Russia
Eric -
> I also had a lot of dumb sarcasm pent up due to things that I really can't
> talk about in detail here, not knowing who is observing our press. :)
Earlier in this game I was gm'ing a full press (now finished) game
featuring, coincidentally, Tony Vernon. That game got pretty wild & I had
to eject someone - not Tony - for being a hopeless scofflaw.
It was pretty weird separating it out from the discussion here.
Ben
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
Supports are in for MUN again.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
>
> Andy -
> Supports are in for MUN again.
Thanks Ben...
Any idea what Erik is doing .
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> Any idea what Erik is doing .
He didn't tell me he was going to attack you before. This phase I've
gently asked him to go slowly & he basically told me he's not stupid.
There you have it.
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> > Any idea what Erik is doing .
> He didn't tell me he was going to attack you before. This phase I've
> gently asked him to go slowly & he basically told me he's not stupid.
>
> There you have it.
Understood.
Message from England to England
> > > Any idea what Erik is doing .
> > He didn't tell me he was going to attack you before. This phase I've
> > gently asked him to go slowly & he basically told me he's not stupid.
> >
> > There you have it.
>
> Understood.
While this dialogue is amusing Andy & myself, I actually think Erik did the
right thing to attack when he did, as the chance of a 4 way is of course
small, and if Erik had tipped me off that he was attacking Andy, I would
have had the opportunity to tweak the situation to keep it unstable -
permitting my lingering solo hopes to go on.
So, as amusing as this semi-slanderous banter is, I think the more accurate
reflection on Erik's attack against Andy, is that Erik has done us all a
favor by accelerating the simplification. As I wrote to Eric.
Ben
Message from Russia to England
> From: "USTX Diplomacy Judge" <ustx@spencersoft.com>
> Subject: USTX:c2 - S1912M Late Notice: E
Ben,
Odd, but the judge seems to have underlined France's power designation in
this late notice. :)
--- Eric
Message from England to all
Oops! Overlooked a unit. . .
Ben
England: Fleet Baltic Sea SUPPORT Army Berlin
England: Fleet Barents Sea SUPPORT Army St Petersburg
England: Fleet Belgium → North Sea
England: Army Berlin SUPPORT Italian Army Munich (*void, destroyed*)
England: Fleet Helgoland Bight → Denmark
England: Army Kiel SUPPORT Italian Army Munich (*void*)
England: Army London HOLD
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean CONVOY Army St Petersburg → Smyrna
England: Fleet North Sea → Skagerrak
England: Army Ruhr SUPPORT Italian Army Munich (*void*)
England: Army St Petersburg SUPPORT Russian Army Livonia → Moscow (*void*)
France: Army Gascony → Burgundy
France: Army Marseilles → Piedmont (*bounce*)
France: Army Paris SUPPORT Army Gascony → Burgundy
France: Fleet Rome SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea (*cut*)
France: Fleet Tunis SUPPORT Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea
France: Fleet Tuscany SUPPORT Fleet Rome
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea SUPPORT Fleet Rome
Italy: Army Munich → Berlin
Italy: Fleet Naples → Rome (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice SUPPORT Fleet Naples → Rome
Russia: Army Albania → Ionian Sea → Apulia
Russia: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Silesia
Russia: Army Budapest → Vienna
Russia: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Fleet Ionian Sea
Russia: Fleet Ionian Sea CONVOY Army Albania → Apulia
Russia: Army Livonia SUPPORT Army Prussia
Russia: Army Moscow SUPPORT Army Livonia
Russia: Army Prussia SUPPORT Italian Army Munich → Berlin
Russia: Army Silesia SUPPORT Italian Army Munich → Berlin
Russia: Fleet Smyrna → Eastern Mediterranean
Russia: Army Trieste HOLD
Russia: Army Tyrolia → Piedmont (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Warsaw SUPPORT Army Prussia
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