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Austria: Army Budapest can retreat to Trieste
Message from Italy to England
Well done Ben,
Now cut out his bloody heart.
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
Its good that you werent coming for me or anything....or else I might be
in a spot.
England is going to take 2 from you now, and you will be dead soon.
Have fun.
Message from Italy to Italy
I told the Russian that I would write a press to myself as if I were in
his position last turn, and how I would be planning my solo....
Here goes.
Fall 04'
At this point, its not time to make hay with Englnad. but it is time to
set up the Turk for the stab.
But only if things seem to be good, and they seem to be good, because he
just supported you to a dot you can never get by yourself, at least not in
the short term.
You should be convincing your ally the French, to support Munich for you
while you are *supposedly* taking Denmark. Use the same horsheshit excuses
for leaving him swinging in the breeze last fall, that you have been
giving me the whole game. He will probably believe them.
Oh...and you have to convince the Turk that he can take the ION
Let the English get very involved with the French before you move on him.
Moves....:
F Rum - Bul
A BUD s A TRI - SER
A SEV - ARM
F BAL s A SIL - BER
A SIL - BER
A MUN s A SIL - BER
A NWY h
I think I am going to do this on a turn by turn basis from here on out....
Message from France to Italy
>
> Its good that you werent coming for me or anything....or else I might be
> in a spot.
>
>
> England is going to take 2 from you now, and you will be dead soon.
>
> Have fun.
>
Well, you're not exactly long for this world, either. See you on the
comments board shortly.
Erik
Message from Italy to France
> Well, you're not exactly long for this world, either. See you on the
> comments board shortly.
>
ONly if you give up your position totally and attack me without regard for
protecting what you have left.
Otherwise, there is alot of time for me. I wont be losing 2 this year. And
if I can work it right, I am building.
Have fun.
Message from Russia to Italy
Well, now I want to know how I did according to what you would have advised
me!
So what's your thinking? Do you want to see me stopped, or do you still want
to "cut out Philippe's heart"? I know I'm getting to be a threat, but I don't
know if I'm the lesser of the evils of "allies" that you face. Hopefully it
was helpful that I didn't give you false hopes that I was going to be working
with you last season, even though I didn't do anything that helped you.
So, if you know Philippe was vacating Tri, would you have moved there
yourself?
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> Well, now I want to know how I did according to what you would have advised
> me!
You will see the press when we are done...its going to be ongoing for the
rest of the game.
> So what's your thinking? Do you want to see me stopped, or do you still want
> to "cut out Philippe's heart"?
We are at a point where you would have to show me in a HUGE way that I
wouldnt be the next course of the RT meal.
I know I'm getting to be a threat, but I don't
> know if I'm the lesser of the evils of "allies" that you face.
I dont know what you mean here.
Hopefully it
> was helpful that I didn't give you false hopes that I was going to be working
> with you last season, even though I didn't do anything that helped you.
Didnt maek a difference, I wouldnt have believed any promise you made me.
you had no reason to keep your word to me.
> So, if you know Philippe was vacating Tri, would you have moved there
> yourself?
Probably not.
So..what can you offer me. Its going to take you a while to get another
army in position to force this situation.
How do you see the board right now....who do you stab and when??
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
>> I know I'm getting to be a threat, but I don't
>> know if I'm the lesser of the evils of "allies" that you face.
>
>I dont know what you mean here.
I mean that I don't know if you're more worried about me and my position, or
more angry with Philippe and Jason for continuing to pursue you. I suspect
the former at this point.
>> So, if you know Philippe was vacating Tri, would you have moved there
>> yourself?
>
>Probably not.
Not surprising.
>So..what can you offer me.
Well, it depends on what you want. There are certainly ways I could distract
Turkey and perhaps help you regain Gre (though I doubt that could happen by
Fall unless Philippe helps you). But would you be okay with gaining on Jason
and Philippe in a way that also helps my position?
> Its going to take you a while to get another
> army in position to force this situation.
No doubt, and that's assuming I even hold the position I have.
> How do you see the board right now....
Well, if Boh-Mun had bounced as I thought it would, I'd probably offer you
Vie (and by extension, Tri next year). But whatever our relationship, I don't
want to see Jason get a free pass into Italy, so I'd like to see you get some
units to slow him down. I don't know if that means stabbing him necessarily
-- helping you acheives much of the same goal, I think.
The west is a mess, but I think a good mess from my point of view. The south
is hard to read. You clearly showed good will to Philippe, to an extent
showed it to Jason, and neither appeared to trust it. You and Philippe seem
to have a really odd relationship. Is there some history there, or did you
both just hit it off really badly in early negotiations?
> who do you stab and when??
At this point I'm really not sure what I'm going to do next -- it's too early
in the turn (you can see why I envy your FtF skills). I clearly don't need
any more builds than I appear to have now; though I may need more dots, since
I can't necessarily hold either I'm on right now.
--- Eric
Message from France to Italy
>
> ONly if you give up your position totally and attack me without regard
> for
> protecting what you have left.
Who knows? I might do that. It could be fun. You haven't given me much of a
reason not too. As you've pointed out, I'm apparently losing two, so why
shouldn't I dig in and pick on you while I'm still around?
Andy, with all due respect, you haven't really given me much of a reason
*not* to attack you this game. You don't share information with me, you
don't ever have any kind of constructive proposals, you send cryptic, two
line messages, and now, instead of actually trying to negotiate with me,
you're gloating. I suspect that if you hadn't been so busy trying to deal
with your two neighbors, you would have come after me long ago, especially
once it was clear that Tony wasn't going to be the board-sweeping threat
that you constantly, constantly, constantly, constantly swore he would be.
I stopped sending you any kind of meaningful press long ago becuase
frankly, it's been a completely useless experience this game.
So yeah, maybe I will give up my position totally and attack you. It will
at least keep me occupied for a little while and make my downfall
entertaining.
Erik
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
> Who knows? I might do that. It could be fun. You haven't given me much of a
> reason not too. As you've pointed out, I'm apparently losing two, so why
> shouldn't I dig in and pick on you while I'm still around?
You could look at it that way. Or you could try to convince the Russian to
keep his side of your bargain.....whatever that bargain was.
> Andy, with all due respect, you haven't really given me much of a reason
> *not* to attack you this game. You don't share information with me, you
> don't ever have any kind of constructive proposals, you send cryptic, two
> line messages, and now, instead of actually trying to negotiate with me,
> you're gloating.
Erik...first...Im sorry...Im not trying to sound like I am gloating...but
as I reread it....it sure as hell looks like gloating to me.
With all due respect, you havent giving any reason to share information
with you, we entered this game with the WORST kind of history, and you
moved on me in Spring of 01' only to back off and hover like a gargoyle
waiting to attack for the next 2 years. You have had 2 opportunities to
build and both of them included a Fleet in Marsaille...what does that tell
your Italian neighbor.
I suspect that if you hadn't been so busy trying to deal
> with your two neighbors, you would have come after me long ago, especially
> once it was clear that Tony wasn't going to be the board-sweeping threat
> that you constantly, constantly, constantly, constantly swore he would be.
This is where you are totally wrong, as the end of game summarys will play
out, I have told all of my eastern cousins, that I wont attack you, its
impossible at this point.
And as expected Russia has fueld the fire that if I am not attacking you,
I have to attack Austria and Turkey.
> I stopped sending you any kind of meaningful press long ago becuase
> frankly, it's been a completely useless experience this game.
You have NEVER sent me meaningful press....you have picked my brain, but
offered nothing in return for my mantra that Germany must die, even at the
beginning. You have to give to recieve in this game, and with the very
current history we walked in with, we were way behind the curve already.
> So yeah, maybe I will give up my position totally and attack you. It will
> at least keep me occupied for a little while and make my downfall
> entertaining.
That is your call, but you position is far from hopeless, and with some
negotiation with the Russian, I think you could make a solid comeback on
England.
just my .02
Andy
Message from Austria to Italy
Andy,
Any suggestion?
Philippe
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> Well done Ben,
>
> Now cut out his bloody heart.
This sort of makes me want to play with the Pitkissers, and sort of makes me
alittle nervous. ;o)
Can you offer support for RUH - MUN?
Ben
Austria: Army Budapest → Trieste
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