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Message from Turkey to Italy
Ok, builds are finally in, and as predicted Russia has a knife to my throat.
How do you want to do this? I assume Russia will kick me out of Bla this
turn, followed by an attack on Con/Ank. I'll support Bul with Aeg to try
and stem the tide, and attack Rum with Gal.
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Message from jasonab@acm.org as Turkey to Italy in 'c2':
>
> Ok, builds are finally in, and as predicted Russia has a knife to my throat.
You arent dead yet, so dont panic.
> How do you want to do this? I assume Russia will kick me out of Bla this
> turn, followed by an attack on Con/Ank. I'll support Bul with Aeg to try
> and stem the tide, and attack Rum with Gal.
Your moves right now should be GAL - RUM with 2 supports, and AEG - CON.
Lets make his life bloody miserable.
He is likely to cover BUD w/Serbia, may even request a support there from
the Austrian. If GAL gets piffed, we rebuild it next year.
If he spends enough energy to kick you out of BLA, he loses Rum. You
retreat to ARM and defend your homeland from COn and ARM with a rebuild
coming in the winter.
I am taking Trieste in the spring and moving to Tyrolia w/Piedmont, and
GREeece with AEG, just in case...if I make it there, I can defend you in
Bulgaria.
Good luck
Andy
Message from Italy to England and France
Gentlemen,
I cannot describe how important it is for the 2 of you to do 3 things;
1. Work together
2. Take some Russian dots.
3. Not attack me.
If you attack me at this point, Russia gets all of Turkey and all of the
Balkans.
If you dont start taking some of his dots, it wont matter.
You guys are working at a glacial pace, please pick it up.
If you need anything from me, please speak up, I will give tactical advice
if asked.
Andy
Every normal man must be tempted, at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the skull and
crossbones, and begin slitting throats"
- H.L.Menken
Message from Turkey to Italy
Don't worry, no panicking here.
I was doing Aeg S Bul, but I agree having it in Con will be more useful,
although he might be able to dislodge Bul and keep me out of Rum with
Ukr and Sev. We'll have to see, though. It would take a lot of guesswork
on his part.
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
> I was doing Aeg S Bul, but I agree having it in Con will be more useful,
> although he might be able to dislodge Bul and keep me out of Rum with
> Ukr and Sev. We'll have to see, though. It would take a lot of guesswork
> on his part.
Exactly.
And his luck should be running thin soon, he has had a horseshoe falling
out of his ass fro most of this game.
talk to you soon.
Message from England to France and Italy
> 1. Work together
Ok.
> 2. Take some Russian dots.
Ok.
> 3. Not attack me.
Ok.
> If you dont start taking some of his dots,
> it wont matter.
Ok. I'm doing it, starting this year.
> You guys are working at a glacial pace,
> please pick it up.
Ok, ok.
> If you need anything from me, please speak
> up, I will give tactical advice if asked.
I know we've discussed it privately, but tactical advice for myself & the
team is always welcome.
Ben
Message from Italy to England and France
> I know we've discussed it privately, but tactical advice for myself & the
> team is always welcome.
>
This is a spring turn.
I think we have to take a couple of chances.
NAO - NWG
NTH c EDI - HOL
KIE - DEN
SKA s KIE - DEN
BER - BAL
Odds say he wont attack both Ber and Kie, he will position into Pru
though, my suspition is by moving Boh - Sil and Sil - Pru, WAR wont move
with that army in GAL.
France...
Bur - Ruh
Par - Bur
Bel s Par - Bur
What to do withthese fleets is a ?
You really do need another army, but moving a fleet somewhere to dislodge
and disband it is going to be really tough.
What do you suggest.
Andy
Message from England to France and Italy
Gentlemen -
> NAO - NWG
> NTH c EDI - HOL
> KIE - DEN
> SKA s KIE - DEN
> BER - BAL
I had been troubled by how to deal with a possible F HEL. This is an
elegant solution.
> Odds say he wont attack both Ber and Kie, he will position into Pru
> though, my suspition is by moving Boh - Sil and Sil - Pru,
> WAR wont move with that army in GAL.
Looks good to me. Sets up for a nice follow up in the fall. . .
> You really do need another army, but moving a fleet somewhere
> to dislodge and disband it is going to be really tough.
>
> What do you suggest.
Your proposal is better. My ideas involved trying to put the army in
Scandinavia - DEN or NWY - which would have left the Russian F DEN a
problem.
Ben
Message from Italy to England and France
> > You really do need another army, but moving a fleet somewhere
> > to dislodge and disband it is going to be really tough.
> >
> > What do you suggest.
This is directed to Erik.
He has 3 fleets that he is doing nothing with. And 2 can amply protect
hiscountry
Message from France to England and Italy
Sorry, just catching up. Are you suggesting that I sswing a fleet up
north to help out? I'm perfectly willing to do so, but don't want to
unless I'm invited.
Bur can pop Munich, though not to much avail. Andy, can you try for
Tyrolia again?
Erik
Message from Italy to England and France
> Sorry, just catching up. Are you suggesting that I sswing a fleet up
> north to help out? I'm perfectly willing to do so, but don't want to
> unless I'm invited.
That is up to Ben, but you REALLY need to pop a fleet and build an army.
Or get a build and build an army...which isnt easy at all right nwo.
> Bur can pop Munich, though not to much avail. Andy, can you try for
> Tyrolia again?
I am going to Tyrolia
Andy
Message from Austria to Italy
Andy,
Your intent seem clear enough, but have you
really decided to take me out?
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
Philippe,
> Your intent seem clear enough, but have you
> really decided to take me out?
I dont want to, but you have made it indelibly clear you would prefer to
see the Russian solo, and that is unacceptable.
Help me out here.
Message from Austria to Italy
> I dont want to, but you have made it indelibly clear you would prefer to
> see the Russian solo, and that is unacceptable.
>
> Help me out here.
First, I doubt an eventual russian solo depend on my actions.
Second, if I can't trust you to insure my survival, I can't afford
to go against Russia.
So, do you see any way out of this?
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
>
> First, I doubt an eventual russian solo depend on my actions.
Then you are being short-sighted.
> Second, if I can't trust you to insure my survival, I can't afford
> to go against Russia.
I spent a year supporting you. Then you decided to attack me and being
tipped off is the only thing that saved my ass.
I have wanted to wrk with you for a while, but when you started supporting
him against me, my actions got pretty limited.
> So, do you see any way out of this?
>
I dont knwo
Andy
Message from Austria to Italy
> > First, I doubt an eventual russian solo depend on my actions.
>
> Then you are being short-sighted.
I do wear glasses, but I meant that what little help I provide
Russia isn't going to permit him to solo.
> > Second, if I can't trust you to insure my survival, I can't afford
> > to go against Russia.
>
> I spent a year supporting you. Then you decided to attack me and being
> tipped off is the only thing that saved my ass.
I totally disagree with this interpretation of what happened,
but it's pretty pointless to argue with you about it.
> I have wanted to wrk with you for a while, but when you started supporting
> him against me, my actions got pretty limited.
Again, I don't share your point of view. I think that supporting
me in words while positionning yourself for a quick take over
of Austria is more in line with what happened.
> > So, do you see any way out of this?
> >
> I dont knwo
Provided Jason can be counted upon, I would think you could
use all those nice fleets of yours to support my interest without
my having to worry about an italian invasion. If the only italian
units bordering me are fleets, with little possibility of convoyed
attack, then the risk of seeing you move against me would be
somewhat mitigated. That is, if you find helping me to be a
worthy goal.
Philippe
Message from Italy to Austria
> I do wear glasses, but I meant that what little help I provide
> Russia isn't going to permit him to solo.
Helping him into dots, and defending him from Turkey and myself is HELPING
him solo.
> > I have wanted to wrk with you for a while, but when you started supporting
> > him against me, my actions got pretty limited.
>
> Again, I don't share your point of view. I think that supporting
> me in words while positionning yourself for a quick take over
> of Austria is more in line with what happened.
You seem to think that my units have some sort of long range
component.....and can actually defend you from RANGE.
Aside from the fact that I need to have units next to yours in order to
support you, I have to have sometihng in place in cse he rolls over you.
I asked you what you wanted, and you tired to screw me. And then started
supporting Russia against Turkey and myself.
> > > So, do you see any way out of this?
> > >
> > I dont knwo
>
> Provided Jason can be counted upon, I would think you could
> use all those nice fleets of yours to support my interest without
> my having to worry about an italian invasion. If the only italian
> units bordering me are fleets, with little possibility of convoyed
> attack, then the risk of seeing you move against me would be
> somewhat mitigated. That is, if you find helping me to be a
> worthy goal.
He is one season from rolling over you
I am defending myself
Message from England to France and Italy
Gentlemen -
> > Sorry, just catching up. Are you suggesting that I sswing a fleet up
> > north to help out? I'm perfectly willing to do so, but don't want to
> > unless I'm invited.
>
> That is up to Ben, but you REALLY need to pop a fleet and
> build an army.
>
> Or get a build and build an army...which isnt easy at all right nwo.
>
> > Bur can pop Munich, though not to much avail. Andy, can you try for
> > Tyrolia again?
>
> I am going to Tyrolia
Ok, this is a good plan. Orders will reflect it.
Erik, I don't really need a French fleet - fleets I have plenty. I don't
think you need another army *right now*, though in time you will; perhaps we
could hold off on this decision to see if we get a better chance down the
road. For now the fleet is effective defense should Andy or I attack you,
right where it is.
Ben
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
Well, I'm doing my best to keep up the "contact each player each season", but
I still struggle with what to talk to you about.
I don't expect you to tell me anything about your plans, so I won't ask you.
I think I have a sense of what England, Turkey and Austria are each up to.
But Erik seems a mystery. He could go north, south or hold back, but they all
have significant disadvantages depending on what eventuality he's most
worried about. History says that he'll continue attacking you, but StL
ettiquite (sp) says he should hold back. What do you think is likely? Or is
that too much info to share with me at this point?
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric
> Well, I'm doing my best to keep up the "contact each player each season", but
> I still struggle with what to talk to you about.
I figure you will just pump me for info in your self depricating manner.
btw...I will be in SF in February.
> I don't expect you to tell me anything about your plans, so I won't ask you.
Fair.
> I think I have a sense of what England, Turkey and Austria are each up to.
What do you think they are doing?
> But Erik seems a mystery. He could go north, south or hold back, but they all
> have significant disadvantages depending on what eventuality he's most
> worried about. History says that he'll continue attacking you, but StL
> ettiquite (sp) says he should hold back. What do you think is likely? Or is
> that too much info to share with me at this point?
We will find out wont we...:-)
Message from Russia to Italy
What's in SF in Feb? I thought that was Denver.
I always pump people for information. It's a habit, probably a good one.
I'm also usually self-deprecating by habit as well, though that's not as
clearly a good one.
In answer to your questions: I expect Turkey to fight me, I expect Austria
to continue to grope for survival between us, and I'm unsure what's coming
from Ben. I'm certain he (Ben) will do something to me in Scandinavia, but
how bad it will be for me, and how much he will hedge against France (and
vice-versa) will be a surprise. How's that for insight. :)
Here's something I hope you will respond to (though I don't need a response
prior to the moves): What would you need to actually start working with me?
As I look at the fact that I can't get through Turkey without him getting
harassed (by you), and I likely can't get any further west regardless I'd
like to know what it would take. I'm not looking to make any specific deals
yet, so you can state wishes, demands, whatever. I just want to get a sense
of what you would realistically like to see come out of the current
position, so I can take it into account when making my moves in the next
few seasons.
--- Eric
Message from Russia to Italy
Whoops! Errors in the orders. They're in now, so I can send press again.
Clarification on the last message: I didn't mean to say that I'm not
willing to negotiate now. I simply thought it would be easier to start with
desires/demands and work our way to negotiating from there.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> What's in SF in Feb? I thought that was Denver.
I will be in SF on business. Not a Dip event.
>
> In answer to your questions: I expect Turkey to fight me, I expect Austria
> to continue to grope for survival between us, and I'm unsure what's coming
> from Ben. I'm certain he (Ben) will do something to me in Scandinavia, but
> how bad it will be for me, and how much he will hedge against France (and
> vice-versa) will be a surprise. How's that for insight. :)
Probably a pretty good bet.
> Here's something I hope you will respond to (though I don't need a response
> prior to the moves): What would you need to actually start working with me?
Not sure...and that is an honest answer.
> As I look at the fact that I can't get through Turkey without him getting
> harassed (by you), and I likely can't get any further west regardless I'd
> like to know what it would take. I'm not looking to make any specific deals
> yet, so you can state wishes, demands, whatever. I just want to get a sense
> of what you would realistically like to see come out of the current
> position, so I can take it into account when making my moves in the next
> few seasons.
I think you view your position as not nearly as strong as it is.
Message from Russia to Italy
> I will be in SF on business. Not a Dip event.
Ahh. I grew up there, but I live 1.5 hours south now, so I won't offer to
play host while you're here. :) Have a good time and let me know if you want
any tourist-type recommendations.
>> Here's something I hope you will respond to (though I don't need a
>> response prior to the moves): What would you need to actually start
>> working with me?
> Not sure...and that is an honest answer.
Fair enough. But do keep it in mind, and let me know if you think of
anything. I've been looking at things like supporting you further into
Austria, but that's not obviously something that helps cooperation (though it
does help you). I've also looked at things like cooperation in Turkey while
continuing to try to hold Austria for myself. That's more likely to be
interesting to you if Erik is coming after you than if you're not under any
immediate pressure.
Do you have any thoughts or observations about the game overall that you can
share at this point? Is it a good, standard, or boring game? That kind of
thing. I think I've mentioned my thoughts already: for how much Diplomatic
influence I've had I think I should have better position, that early AI
hostilities surprised me in their intensity, etc., so hopefully that's not
sounding like a one-sided request for info.
> I think you view your position as not nearly as strong as it is.
Well, that would be the same personality trait as the self-depricating one
that I use for info-pumping, I guess. Half-full-glass guy that I am, I see
that I have yet to gain a stable stalemate line that I recognize, and while I
can see potential paths to more centers, I don't see any likely paths that
get me to 18. So while my position is not *weak*, I don't see significant
growth going forward, and while unlikely, elimination is stil possible. So
the strength of my position is directly related to the strength of the StL I
assume is out there. And since I sense that no one is ready to jump on the
"let's help Russia" bandwagon in the short term, I'm assuming it's fairly
strong and am trying to think of plans that are appropriate to that
situation. If you guys all fall on each other in chaotic fighting, I'll
happily change my outlook. :)
Take care,
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> > I will be in SF on business. Not a Dip event.
>
> Ahh. I grew up there, but I live 1.5 hours south now, so I won't offer to
> play host while you're here. :) Have a good time and let me know if you want
> any tourist-type recommendations.
Well...I have been there a couple of times.
Where are you Monterey/Santa Cruz?
> >> Here's something I hope you will respond to (though I don't need a
> >> response prior to the moves): What would you need to actually start
> >> working with me?
>
> > Not sure...and that is an honest answer.
>
> Fair enough. But do keep it in mind, and let me know if you think of
> anything. I've been looking at things like supporting you further into
> Austria, but that's not obviously something that helps cooperation (though it
> does help you). I've also looked at things like cooperation in Turkey while
> continuing to try to hold Austria for myself. That's more likely to be
> interesting to you if Erik is coming after you than if you're not under any
> immediate pressure.
Yes...this is a very intresting quandry to try to predict.
> Do you have any thoughts or observations about the game overall that you can
> share at this point? Is it a good, standard, or boring game?
if the French werent late every turn it would be moving much faster.
So far it has been pretty good.
The experience levels are showing themselves in intresting ways.
That kind of
> thing. I think I've mentioned my thoughts already: for how much Diplomatic
> influence I've had I think I should have better position, that early AI
> hostilities surprised me in their intensity, etc., so hopefully that's not
> sounding like a one-sided request for info.
No....it isnt.
>
> > I think you view your position as not nearly as strong as it is.
>
> Well, that would be the same personality trait as the self-depricating one
> that I use for info-pumping, I guess. Half-full-glass guy that I am, I see
> that I have yet to gain a stable stalemate line that I recognize, and while I
> can see potential paths to more centers, I don't see any likely paths that
> get me to 18.
I will write you a note about this.
So while my position is not *weak*, I don't see significant
> growth going forward, and while unlikely, elimination is stil possible. So
> the strength of my position is directly related to the strength of the StL I
> assume is out there. And since I sense that no one is ready to jump on the
> "let's help Russia" bandwagon in the short term, I'm assuming it's fairly
> strong and am trying to think of plans that are appropriate to that
> situation. If you guys all fall on each other in chaotic fighting, I'll
> happily change my outlook. :)
I bet you will...:-)
take care
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
> Where are you Monterey/Santa Cruz?
Santa Cruz R' Us.
> if the French werent late every turn it would be moving much faster.
Well, that is true. I'm not helping much myself those. If I actually looked
at the board immediately after the preceeding deadline rather than right
before the next deadline, I'd maybe even get orders in ahead of time. I did
get my last build orders in days in advance without wait set, but I have been
very deadline driven in terms of when I start paying real attention to the
board. Not a good trait.
> So far it has been pretty good.
That's good to hear. With the delays, the apparent AI problems and Jason's
maniacal infatuation with your centers I thought it might be a fairly painful
game for you.
> The experience levels are showing themselves in intresting ways.
I'm not sure I have a strong grasp on people's experience overall. I
certainly see a huge difference in styles among the different players that I
don't think are all chalked up to experience -- though with Tony gone, the
style variety is significantly reduced! Did you get much of a chance to work
with him? Wow, very unusual (to me) style. I think he's a good player,
especially tactically, but his diplomacy was always quite suspect. :)
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> > Where are you Monterey/Santa Cruz?
>
> Santa Cruz R' Us.
I love where you live.
My favorite sushi place in the US is in Santa Cruz....I cante even
remember its name, but its overlooks the water. A friend took me there
when I was visiting her while she did her PhD at UCSC.
Also, one of my best friends went to undergrad there....the last time I
was there I got to the place that overlooks all the intermural fields and
the ocean and called him just to tomrment him that I was there.
>
> > if the French werent late every turn it would be moving much faster.
>
> Well, that is true. I'm not helping much myself those. If I actually looked
> at the board immediately after the preceeding deadline rather than right
> before the next deadline, I'd maybe even get orders in ahead of time. I did
> get my last build orders in days in advance without wait set, but I have been
> very deadline driven in terms of when I start paying real attention to the
> board. Not a good trait.
You arent late on every turn. Even retreats and builds.
>
> > So far it has been pretty good.
>
> That's good to hear. With the delays, the apparent AI problems and Jason's
> maniacal infatuation with your centers I thought it might be a fairly painful
> game for you.
Other than the delays....I face the problems I have had with Phillippe and
Jason every time I step to a board in FtF....reputation does that.
> > The experience levels are showing themselves in intresting ways.
>
> I'm not sure I have a strong grasp on people's experience overall.
Give me a rundown of the players and where you think they are...:-)
I
> certainly see a huge difference in styles among the different players that I
> don't think are all chalked up to experience -- though with Tony gone, the
> style variety is significantly reduced!
I would agree with this statement.
Did you get much of a chance to work
> with him? Wow, very unusual (to me) style. I think he's a good player,
> especially tactically, but his diplomacy was always quite suspect. :)
Tony was the best email player at the board.
His style works with most people, you fall into the minority, who believe
it suspect.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
> My favorite sushi place in the US is in Santa Cruz....I cant even
> remember its name, but its overlooks the water. A friend took me there
> when I was visiting her while she did her PhD at UCSC.
How long ago was this? That sounds like Paradise Sushi in Capitola Beach, but
Paradise is pretty new, so I'm not sure. My favorite place in town now is
called Shogun, it's a new place right on the mall downtown. But SF is no
slouch on the Sushi front either -- Ebisu on 9th Ave between Irving and
Lincoln is one of my all time favorite Sushi places.
> Also, one of my best friends went to undergrad there....the last time I
> was there I got to the place that overlooks all the intermural fields
> and the ocean and called him just to torment him that I was there.
Yeah, I'm spoiled wrt/that. I work at UCSC, and for the first several years
there my office looked out right over that view. Now I'm more in the central
part of the campus, but I do get to the East Field House area several times a
week.
> You arent late on every turn. Even retreats and builds.
That is true. And I don't think I've been more than about 5 minutes late --
just delays or errors in the delivery of my last minute order submissions.
It's almost funny; it sure seems like it would take some actual intent to be
so consistently late.
> Other than the delays....I face the problems I have had with Phillippe
> and Jason every time I step to a board in FtF....reputation does that.
Interesting. I hadn't really thought much about how that can become an
ongoing phenomenon and something you would actually get used to. Jason seems
to be fairly new to online play, so I don't know if he had much to go on
rep-wise to distinguish us.
> > I'm not sure I have a strong grasp on people's experience overall.
>
> Give me a rundown of the players and where you think they are...:-)
Ben's and Philippe are the ones that surprise me the most. I saw that Ben was
in the most recently ended "teachme" game, so thought he might be
inexperienced, but he strikes me as fairly knowledgeable. That could be just
aptitude though. Some people just have personalities that make them seem
experienced when they are not, so that's why I'm not sure it's experience vs.
ability. Philippe seems to have experience, but his negotiations style made
me wonder if that was true, or if he was primarily a FtF player. (I'll put
some detail into the EoG on that -- I don't mean it as a putdown). Erik is
hard to read because he's not around much, but then I followed his press in
comments, and in that sense knew something of what to expect. Jason declared
himself to be a newbie, and I assumed that to be accurate, but he's done some
things that make it clear to me that he's not as naive as he paints himself.
Playing with you has been interesting as well. I completely see what makes
you a really strong FtF player, and I can also see how those same strengths
are not as effective in the email realm.
> Tony was the best email player at the board.
I certainly am not going to refute that statement. He was quite good, and it
was both fun and maddening to play with and against him.
> His style works with most people, you fall into the minority, who
> believe it suspect.
For whatever reason, his initial diplomacy did not sway a lot of people (at
least not for more than a turn or two), and I think that was his downfall.
What I mean by his diplomacy being suspect (and you probably understood this)
is that it was clear from early on that his Diplomacy only bore relationships
to what he wanted others to do, not what he was going to do himself. Had he
gotten more people to work with him early on, the discontinuity between his
agreements and his moves may have been less pronounced.
As I reread that, I realize it might be how you would describe my play as
well. The difference to me is that I was really trying to build an RI, and
was just constantly sidetracked by all these unreasonably good offers from AT
that they continued to offer and deliver on. Once it became a more specific
strategy, I changed the way I negotiated with you -- basically I didn't want
to negotiate anything I knew I wasn't willing to do. Tony has no problem
doing that, which in situations such as the one he ended up in here can be a
liability rather than a skill.
So am I sharing too much? :)
--- Eric
Austria: Army Trieste → Budapest
Austria: Army Vienna SUPPORT Army Trieste → Budapest
England: Fleet Berlin → Baltic Sea (*bounce*)
England: Army Edinburgh → North Sea → Holland
England: Fleet Kiel → Denmark
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean → Norwegian Sea
England: Fleet North Sea CONVOY Army Edinburgh → Holland
England: Fleet Skagerrak SUPPORT Fleet Kiel → Denmark
France: Army Belgium HOLD
France: Army Burgundy → Marseilles
France: Fleet Marseilles → Gulf of Lyon
France: Army Paris → Burgundy
France: Fleet Portugal → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
France: Fleet Spain (south coast) → Western Mediterranean
Italy: Fleet Adriatic Sea SUPPORT Army Venice → Trieste
Italy: Fleet Albania SUPPORT Army Venice → Trieste
Italy: Fleet Ionian Sea → Greece
Italy: Army Piedmont → Tyrolia (*bounce*)
Italy: Army Venice → Trieste
Russia: Army Bohemia SUPPORT Army Munich → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Denmark → Baltic Sea (*bounce, dislodged*)
Russia: Army Munich → Tyrolia
Russia: Fleet Rumania → Sevastopol
Russia: Army Serbia → Rumania (*bounce*)
Russia: Fleet Sevastopol → Armenia
Russia: Army Silesia SUPPORT Army Warsaw → Galicia
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Army Sweden SUPPORT Army St Petersburg → Norway
Russia: Army Ukraine SUPPORT Army Serbia → Rumania
Russia: Army Warsaw → Galicia
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea → Constantinople
Turkey: Fleet Black Sea SUPPORT Army Galicia → Rumania
Turkey: Army Bulgaria SUPPORT Army Galicia → Rumania
Turkey: Army Galicia → Rumania
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