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Message from Italy to Russia
Eric...
Can you spare a dot sir......
Erik can either protect his homeland or take Rome....which I can likely
take back....
But it would be great to not disband this season.
You need to take the BLA....I would suggest ARM - BLA, BUL supports, SEV -
ARM
I Have a suspicion of what Turkey will do and I will be planning for it
Orders are due monday, and I wont be around most of the weekend, please
talk to me, so that we can get this worked out.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
Andy,
Hey, a free morning for me! What a change of pace.
My biggest concern about loaning dots is the north. The time to take Ber is
fast ticking away as I putz around in the Black. :)
Where do you see the best opportunity for dot-loaning -- or are you asking
me to support you somewhere. My guess would be that Turkey is going to
support Ion-Gre, is that you're thinking? If he does, Italy may not take
it. I was thinking of offering Jason Aeg-Gre (please note, I say
"offering") either this season or next, whenever it is best to have him
distracted.
I'll see what Erik is thinking (or at least telling me he's thinking). I'm
riding a fine line with him on the suicide issue -- I'm hoping that Ben and
removing you are more important to him than stopping me soloing. We'll see.
If he's shooting for Mun I'm in trouble, but if he backs off, things look
pretty good.
I'll move Rum north to start pressuring Germany. If Jason takes Bul it's
easy enough to retake it now that he's down a unit. Again, let me know what
dot you'd like and how you think I can hold up without it. If Jason lets me
into Arm then there's no problem. But if he moves Ank-Arm, then I'll
probably have to disband -- don't you think?
Part of the question of how to go forward also has to do with how much
throw motivation you still have with Erik now (potentially) pulling back. I
am wondering whether you are looking to have a defensible position on my
side of your units as Erik heads out, as it does affect things (like
whether or not I should suggest things that have us trading your dots for
mine to get better position on Erik).
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
> Hey, a free morning for me! What a change of pace.
I hear you. Are you free anytime next week, I get to San Francisco on
Tuesday night and would love to meet you.
> My biggest concern about loaning dots is the north. The time to take Ber is
> fast ticking away as I putz around in the Black. :)
You have plenty of time on Berlin....Plenty.
> Where do you see the best opportunity for dot-loaning -- or are you asking
> me to support you somewhere. My guess would be that Turkey is going to
> support Ion-Gre, is that you're thinking? If he does, Italy may not take
> it. I was thinking of offering Jason Aeg-Gre (please note, I say
> "offering") either this season or next, whenever it is best to have him
> distracted.
I think you mean France might not take it.
> I'll see what Erik is thinking (or at least telling me he's thinking). I'm
> riding a fine line with him on the suicide issue -- I'm hoping that Ben and
> removing you are more important to him than stopping me soloing. We'll see.
> If he's shooting for Mun I'm in trouble, but if he backs off, things look
> pretty good.
If he doesnt back off of you and me Ben will take virtually all his dots
in 2 years. He wont be an issue.
> I'll move Rum north to start pressuring Germany. If Jason takes Bul it's
> easy enough to retake it now that he's down a unit. Again, let me know what
> dot you'd like and how you think I can hold up without it. If Jason lets me
> into Arm then there's no problem. But if he moves Ank-Arm, then I'll
> probably have to disband -- don't you think?
I dont know which one. Alot of that depends on what Erik does in the
spring.
> Part of the question of how to go forward also has to do with how much
> throw motivation you still have with Erik now (potentially) pulling back.
He has told me he will continue to attack me. He has told Ben the same.
> am wondering whether you are looking to have a defensible position on my
> side of your units as Erik heads out, as it does affect things (like
> whether or not I should suggest things that have us trading your dots for
> mine to get better position on Erik).
I think we should play defensively and position this spring and then take
dots in the fall, lets see what Jason does....I have a couple of ideas,
but it does matter quite a bit on what Jason does.
Andy
Message from Italy to France
Erik..
So...are you going to throw all your dots to the English while trying to
kill me or are you going to defend yourself.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
My brother is getting married on Saturday in the city. Are you going to be
around that long? It's a small ceremony in the afternoon, so I could probably
make it up for a late breakfast.
I'm hesitiant to suggest you coming down here during the week, even though my
calendar looks fairly free for the moment. My days have been filling up so
fast, it's just hard to have confidence in when I think I'm free.
And yes, I meant France might not take support to Gre. Haven't heard from
Erik yet on his thoughts.
--- Eric
Message from Turkey to Italy
Well, it looks like your throw strategy isn't keeping France away, but
it is rendering me useless. If we work together better, I think we can
hold France back somewhat, but I can't do that if I'm being attacked by
two powers.
How about I support you back into the Ionian to help you get your
momentum back?
jason
Message from Italy to Turkey
Jason,
> Well, it looks like your throw strategy isn't keeping France away, but
> it is rendering me useless.
Well...thats yet to be seen, the English just moved on him, and France is
in ALOT more trouble than he thinks.
If we work together better, I think we can
> hold France back somewhat, but I can't do that if I'm being attacked by
> two powers.
I agree that France has threatened to suicide against me 3 times before
this...he might be up to that....
> How about I support you back into the Ionian to help you get your
> momentum back?
Works fine. EAS is the mover.
thanks
Andy
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> My brother is getting married on Saturday in the city. Are you going to be
> around that long? It's a small ceremony in the afternoon, so I could probably
> make it up for a late breakfast.
Saturday morning is my only concrete plans all week. Other than business.
I could drive down to you and we could do lunch, if your schedule permits
it....go ahead...make me drive to Santa Cruz...I dare you...twist my
arm...:-)
> I'm hesitiant to suggest you coming down here during the week, even though my
> calendar looks fairly free for the moment. My days have been filling up so
> fast, it's just hard to have confidence in when I think I'm free.
Block it in as a meeting with a vendor. If you are having any storage
issues, Im sure I can at least put you on the right track.
> And yes, I meant France might not take support to Gre. Haven't heard from
> Erik yet on his thoughts.
>
yeah....Jason is offering to support me back into the ION, this is the
first time he has spoken to me in weeks.
You suspect he is supporting France to Greece, I have a plan for that.
This is how I see the board.
Let Ben get farther away from you and wrapped up in the details of taking
down France...if you move on him or he even percieves it, he will pull off
of France and mend fences faster than Bush's press secretary can say *He
has fulfilled his military obligation*.
You dont need to move RUM farther north yet, there is no threat there for
about a year. And you can build in Warsaw to take care of it....anything
you get from here out are real builds as compared to the dot swapping you
have been doing for a couple of years.
From what we have discerned, this is our intel...
We suspect that Turkey will support France to Greece. This who covers
Smyrna in case I am lying. Constantinople.
On that basis, this is what I think our moves should be this spring.
StP h or supports Norway
Mos - War
Arm - Bla
Sev - Arm
Rum - Bul
Bul - Con
Ser s Gre
Ber and Mun support each other
Tyr s Ven
I will:
protect myself as best I can
Gre s Rum - Bul
Eas - Aeg
The only defense for this is
Aeg - Bul supported by Con and the odds on this happening are minscule.
And if it does, you take Ank, Bul and probably Smy in the fall.
How does this sound to you?
Andy
Message from France to Italy
Andy:
> So...are you going to throw all your dots to the English
> while trying to kill me or are you going to defend yourself.
I thought you'd given up and commited yourself to the Russia solo.
Interested in sticking around? Now that there's more heat on me, I don't
find that surprising.
Well, I'm kind of darned if I do, darned if I don't. If I attack
England, you get to take advantage of me, and if I attack you, Ben gets
to take advantage of me. Of course, if you keep pressing west, you can
bet that Eric will grab a few of your centers when the time is right.
Anyway, all I'm saying is that I'm open to any suggestions you might
have. It's really just a question of who I want to slow down a little.
If I withdraw and give you back Tunis, are you willing to turn back
against Russia and what's left of Turkey?
Erik
Message from Italy to France
> > So...are you going to throw all your dots to the English
> > while trying to kill me or are you going to defend yourself.
>
> I thought you'd given up and commited yourself to the Russia solo.
> Interested in sticking around? Now that there's more heat on me, I don't
> find that surprising.
>
Well.. how do I put this politely.
If there werent more heat on you, would typing this be worth ANYTHING.
> Well, I'm kind of darned if I do, darned if I don't. If I attack
> England, you get to take advantage of me, and if I attack you, Ben gets
> to take advantage of me. Of course, if you keep pressing west, you can
> bet that Eric will grab a few of your centers when the time is right.
If you move off me, I am not going to attack you. Im in no position to
attack you, but with a move to Mar and a convoy to Spain, he wont be able
to cripple you before you can get back to defend yourself.
> Anyway, all I'm saying is that I'm open to any suggestions you might
> have. It's really just a question of who I want to slow down a little.
I am not moving on you. I see Russia as a MUCH bigger eminent threat,
assuming you arent all over me like a white on rice.
> If I withdraw and give you back Tunis, are you willing to turn back
> against Russia and what's left of Turkey?
Absolutely. I will even give tactical recommendations if you want them
Take care
Andy
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
The French should be coming to you, before the deadline to tell you that I
am going to attack you should he let up on me.
Its not going to happen. But he came to me asking if I would attack you if
he pulled off me, and any other answer is WAYYYYY too suspicious.
looking forward to hearing from you
Andy
Message from Italy to Russia
Eric,
Are you going to talk to me before the deadline....
Help me out here.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
Hey Andy,
<insert normal apology about delays here>
Haven't heard from Erik about you. He did ask for support against Ben. I
agree with you that I need to wait a season to help him. I do keep an eye on
the board, and at this point I don't believe it's worth his while to back off
of you. Without my help he can still get a build off of you faster than he
can return more than a single unit back home.
Your move suggestions sound good. Frankly, Bul S Arm-Bla vs Bul-Con is kind
of a toss up anyway. If Jason really doesn't want me in Bla, Bul's support is
cut and Bla is held. So I'll go with your last suggestion. I agree, Jason is
likely to head to Smy, though I haven't heard anything that indicates whether
or not he's planning to support France to Gre. (He did say he'll be focused
on you, but that's it).
I also owe you a response about lunch sometime next week. It actually appears
that I have time available around lunch every day but Thursday. I expect that
to change as the week goes along, but if I put a hold on something, I can do
it.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> Your move suggestions sound good. Frankly, Bul S Arm-Bla vs Bul-Con is kind
> of a toss up anyway. If Jason really doesn't want me in Bla, Bul's support is
> cut and Bla is held. So I'll go with your last suggestion. I agree, Jason is
> likely to head to Smy, though I haven't heard anything that indicates whether
> or not he's planning to support France to Gre. (He did say he'll be focused
> on you, but that's it).
I can keep Erik from getting Greece, but I cant stop Erik from supporting
in Jason, hence the reason I want SER to support it.
> I also owe you a response about lunch sometime next week. It actually appears
> that I have time available around lunch every day but Thursday. I expect that
> to change as the week goes along, but if I put a hold on something, I can do
Friday....you pick the time.
I will drive down to Santa Cruz and we can go for sushi....
Does this work for you.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
I understood why you wanted Ser to support Gre and I will be providing the
support.
> Friday....you pick the time.
How's 11:30am? I'm free until 1:30, so that gives us time for lunch and some
extra hanging around. I'd say let's do it in the evening, but that's going to
be a hellish weekend (brother getting married Saturday, moving out of my
house Monday) so will probably be busy packing/arranging for most of the
night.
> I will drive down to Santa Cruz and we can go for sushi....
Now you are twisting my arm. :)
Oh, and what kind of storage solutions do you sell? I'm not in the market
myself, but some co-workers do run things like SANs and the like. I can ask
if they are looking for anything like what you've got.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> > Friday....you pick the time.
>
> How's 11:30am? I'm free until 1:30, so that gives us time for lunch and some
> extra hanging around. I'd say let's do it in the evening, but that's going to
> be a hellish weekend (brother getting married Saturday, moving out of my
> house Monday) so will probably be busy packing/arranging for most of the
> night.
>
11:30 is fine, what is your address on campus. And directions would be
good.
> > I will drive down to Santa Cruz and we can go for sushi....
>
> Now you are twisting my arm. :)
>
Would I do that...:-)
> Oh, and what kind of storage solutions do you sell? I'm not in the market
> myself, but some co-workers do run things like SANs and the like. I can ask
> if they are looking for anything like what you've got.
We are an integrator, I will email you our capabilities statement.
Andy
Message from France to Italy
>
> Well.. how do I put this politely.
>
> If there werent more heat on you, would typing this be worth ANYTHING.
>
> > Well, I'm kind of darned if I do, darned if I don't. If I attack
> > England, you get to take advantage of me, and if I attack you, Ben
> gets
> > to take advantage of me. Of course, if you keep pressing west, you can
> > bet that Eric will grab a few of your centers when the time is right.
>
> If you move off me, I am not going to attack you. Im in no position to
> attack you, but with a move to Mar and a convoy to Spain, he wont be
> able
> to cripple you before you can get back to defend yourself.
I'm aware. I suppose I don't have much of a choice. Obviously, I appreciate
any sincerity on your part in this offer, and it will be repaid, if
possible, but on the other hand, I suppose I can't blame you if you decide
just to try and grab what you can from me. All I can do is assure that
given England's history with me, I don't see how I can do anything but
slap him back as quickly as possible, before Russia takes advantage of the
situation and slips into Scandanavia. Any help you can give me by not
providing other worries for me means more resources I can throw north.
I think I know what I need to do, but I'm always open to suggestions.
Erik
Message from Italy to France
Erik,
> I'm aware. I suppose I don't have much of a choice. Obviously, I appreciate
> any sincerity on your part in this offer, and it will be repaid, if
> possible, but on the other hand, I suppose I can't blame you if you decide
> just to try and grab what you can from me. All I can do is assure that
> given England's history with me, I don't see how I can do anything but
> slap him back as quickly as possible, before Russia takes advantage of the
> situation and slips into Scandanavia. Any help you can give me by not
> providing other worries for me means more resources I can throw north.
>
> I think I know what I need to do, but I'm always open to suggestions.
I am just going to defend myself.
I am not coming for you.
I gave you some suggestions in my last message...that is what I would do.
Andy
England: Fleet Baltic Sea CONVOY Army Sweden → Kiel
England: Fleet Berlin SUPPORT Army Sweden → Kiel
England: Fleet English Channel CONVOY Army London → Brest
England: Army Holland → Belgium (*bounce*)
England: Army London → English Channel → Brest
England: Fleet North Atlantic Ocean → Mid-Atlantic Ocean
England: Fleet Norway → St Petersburg (north coast) (*bounce*)
England: Fleet Skagerrak → North Sea
England: Army Sweden → Baltic Sea → Kiel
France: Army Burgundy SUPPORT Army Ruhr → Belgium
France: Fleet Gulf of Lyon → Spain (south coast)
France: Fleet Ionian Sea → Tunis
France: Army Piedmont → Marseilles
France: Army Ruhr → Belgium
France: Army Tuscany → Piedmont
France: Fleet Tyrrhenian Sea → Western Mediterranean
Italy: Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Aegean Sea (*bounce*)
Italy: Fleet Greece SUPPORT Russian Army Rumania → Bulgaria
Italy: Fleet Naples SUPPORT Army Rome
Italy: Army Rome SUPPORT Fleet Naples
Italy: Army Venice SUPPORT Army Rome
Russia: Fleet Armenia → Black Sea
Russia: Fleet Bulgaria (east coast) → Constantinople (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Moscow → Livonia (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Munich SUPPORT Army Tyrolia
Russia: Army Rumania → Bulgaria (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Serbia SUPPORT Italian Fleet Greece
Russia: Army Sevastopol → Armenia
Russia: Army Silesia SUPPORT Army Munich
Russia: Army St Petersburg → Livonia (*bounce*)
Russia: Army Tyrolia SUPPORT Italian Army Venice
Turkey: Fleet Aegean Sea SUPPORT Italian Fleet Eastern Mediterranean → Ionian Sea (*void*)
Turkey: Fleet Ankara HOLD
Turkey: Army Constantinople SUPPORT Fleet Ankara (*cut*)
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