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Russia: Fleet Denmark can retreat to Helgoland Bight
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
I had no idea he was going to do that.
Ben
Message from Italy to England and France
Ok Erik....just remember...you reap what you sew.
I told you what the consequenses of moving on me were and you chose to
ignore them.
If you think I am not capable of getting the russian to a solo before you
get me killed.......you are very short-sighted.
Attacking the guy that is holding the stalemate line is the single dumbest
fucking thing you can do in this game.
But I told you ...spelled it out to you even....your loss...this game
should be over REALLY soon.
Message from Italy to Russia
Im not sure what the hell you keep saying to the other Erik to make him do
this collasaly stupid shit, but he crossed my line of death....so I am
officially helping you solo.
He needs to be taught that the good of the many outwiegh his petty,
asanine needs for retribution on me since I have killed him in every game
we have ever shared befor this one.
I was just finished killing him in a game where I was Italy and he was
France....just as this one started.
Yes...I am totally pissed off. And its not because he is attacking
me...its because he is being so fucking stupid about it.
So....I am at your service.....I am officially helping you win. I will
give any type of advice you want, including tactical....
Tell me what you want or if you just want me to start spouting out what I
think you should do.
Message from Italy to England
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> Andy -
> I had no idea he was going to do that.
You got carboned on my response to him.....most of it is posturing, but he
is so the fucking idiot.
Message from Turkey to Italy
Well, that mostly worked, although it looks like France smells blood.
I can't hold Rum, but if I support Rum into Ser, I can take it, no
problem. We just need to convince Austria to hold on tight. Maybe you
can promise to support Bud?
We also probably want to get England to head south with his builds, if
only to keep France somewhat occupied. Can't have you getting taken out,
now can we? :-)
jason
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> You got carboned on my response to him.....most of it is posturing, but he
> is so the fucking idiot.
:-)
Yeah, I'm not sure how quickly you could really throw the solo, even if you
wanted to - premature, as you know.
The Russian moves are good for me, which should mean, they are good for you
sooner rather than later. Now if I can get him to disband. . .
Ben
Message from Italy to England
> > You got carboned on my response to him.....most of it is posturing, but he
> > is so the fucking idiot.
> :-)
> Yeah, I'm not sure how quickly you could really throw the solo, even if you
> wanted to - premature, as you know.
He is at 11 now and there are 9 centers on the east side of the stalemate
line, this doesnt include my home centers.
> The Russian moves are good for me, which should mean, they are good for you
> sooner rather than later. Now if I can get him to disband. . .
Cool....lets coordinate.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
> Im not sure what the hell you keep saying to the other Erik to make him
> do this collasaly stupid shit, but he crossed my line of death....
I don't know for sure either -- and that's not my typica self-depricating
manner speaking. I tried to convince him that moving north was a better idea
if he didn't want to join an STL, because that way he might actually get some
centers before Ben got them off of me. When he declared his adamance (is that
a word?) for moving south first, I of course said I'd help him out (what else
do you say to someone saying they're going to attack a current adversary),
but frankly he was already settled on his course of action.
> So....I am at your service.....I am officially helping you win. I will
> give any type of advice you want, including tactical....
Well, I certainly can't complain about that being the conditions for
cooperation!
> Tell me what you want or if you just want me to start spouting out what
> I think you should do.
I think you've gotten to know me well enough to know that I'm always happy to
hear advice, even if I come up with different ideas myself. And since I'll be
leaving for six hours of meetings in a few minutes, I won't be thinking of
much in the meantime, and wouldn't mind some starter suggestions.
The first thing that comes to mind quickly is help around Bul. But more
strategically we probably need to figure out a good way to make sure you're
not losing too many centers to hold him off before worrying about me getting
too far into Turkey.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
Putting in your retreat would go a long way to speeding this up...
Message from England to Italy
Andy -
> > The Russian moves are good for me, which should mean, they are good for
you
> > sooner rather than later. Now if I can get him to disband. . .
>
> Cool....lets coordinate.
After the retreat. If he disbands - not likely, but possible - I should
get the builds I need this year.
Ben
Message from France to England and Italy
Andy:
Well, at least I figured out what to do with those fleets.
No hard feelings. Maybe I'm bad at math, but I don't see things the way
you seem to. I'm sure I'll regret it later.
Erik
Message from Russia to Italy
:)
Point taken, but in this case I had a strongly worded message from Ben
about the retreats (he wants to convince me to disband), so the delay is
because of some ongoing negotiation, not foot dragging (unless you consider
them one and the same). I can't see why I should disband the fleet, but
want to give him a chance to explain why it might be worth it.
I'm giving him overnight to get back a comment. I'll unset wait after the
next round of press from him (probably early tomorrow AM).
--- Eric
Message from Italy to France
>
> Well, at least I figured out what to do with those fleets.
>
> No hard feelings. Maybe I'm bad at math, but I don't see things the way
> you seem to. I'm sure I'll regret it later.
I guess you are....there are 9 centers on the east side of the board that
the Russian doesnt own, and that doesnt include my home centers...
Message from Italy to Russia
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> I'm giving him overnight to get back a comment. I'll unset wait after the
> next round of press from him (probably early tomorrow AM).
You should absolutely catagorically NOT disband.
He is going to try to take scandanavia regardless.
Message from Italy to Turkey
> Well, that mostly worked, although it looks like France smells blood.
or opportunity.
> I can't hold Rum, but if I support Rum into Ser, I can take it, no
> problem. We just need to convince Austria to hold on tight. Maybe you
> can promise to support Bud?
I have promised the Austrian all kinds of stuff but he has been
unresponsive.
> We also probably want to get England to head south with his builds, if
> only to keep France somewhat occupied. Can't have you getting taken out,
> now can we? :-)
I would hope not.
Message from Russia to Italy
> You should absolutely catagorically NOT disband.
I unset wait on my retreat a few minutes ago.
> He is going to try to take scandanavia regardless.
That is true. However, I've taken some chances with him that have worked out
well, and if he had some really big carrot to dangle, I would have considered
it. In the end the carrot he was offering was to not attack StP down the
line, which, even if he follows through on it isn't much of a win for me.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
> > He is going to try to take scandanavia regardless.
>
> That is true. However, I've taken some chances with him that have worked out
> well, and if he had some really big carrot to dangle, I would have considered
> it. In the end the carrot he was offering was to not attack StP down the
> line, which, even if he follows through on it isn't much of a win for me.
Exactly.
So...how do we keep me alive enough to help you solo....
Lets look at this alittle differently....
1. What centers can you take/protect on your own...without anyones help.
2. What centers can you take with my help.
3. What centers can you help me into to keep me strong as well.
I have some ideas....but I want to hear yours first.
Andy
Message from Russia to Italy
> So...how do we keep me alive enough to help you solo....
>
> Lets look at this alittle differently....
>
> 1. What centers can you take/protect on your own...without anyones help.
> 2. What centers can you take with my help.
> 3. What centers can you help me into to keep me strong as well.
>
> I have some ideas....but I want to hear yours first.
I'm running out to 5+ hours of meetings, so will respond to this either this
evening or tomorrow AM.
--- Eric
Message from Italy to Russia
>
> I'm running out to 5+ hours of meetings, so will respond to this either this
> evening or tomorrow AM.
Eric...what the hell do you do for a university that keeps you in meetings
this way?
Russia: Fleet Denmark → Helgoland Bight
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